This issue brings to light the lack of responsibility and accountability in society today. Competency, accountability, responsibility…mostly lost in the modern world.
Mankind is obviously devolving, evolution is clearly a lie. Excuses, deflection and gaslighting are the skill sets of the modern man. Thats what a phd gets you. Educated idiots…
Of course we are no longer evolving. Our homes are climate controlled, as is pretty much every business building. We have been evolving with climate changer for millennia and now suddenly people see it as a threat, mostly because they are not able to adjust. Most would die in a week if our technology disappeared over night. I would suggest to most people that they get back to nature. Not the the Greenpeace/Disney version, not the government campsites and parks but explore the real undeveloped wilderness. Maybe they'll rediscover the resilience that makes us part of this amazing world.
They prefer you to be dependent upon the system so you will beg and cower in fear when things get real. We have lost much ground compared to our great grandparents that came to the wilderness to build a civilization and thrive. Since electricity, man got soft…
They call it progress but in reality it’s regress..
This is sheer foolishness. There has Never been a civilization that has moved on and advanced by staying stagnant. Look at primitive tribes. If it hadn't for European and Middle Eastern and Asian exponential advancements they would still be wearing straw and animal hides. Not going to address taking advantage of their resources (although they weren't able to do so themselves) because that's a topic for another time. Yes, we have climate controlled homes and offices. No, most would t be able to live off the land, We don't have to. We don't need mules or horses any more. So what. The devolvement of man has occurred due to his inability to assess with proper critical thinking, and to worship the god of human secularism instead of the King of the universe.
Quite the opposite, actually. Nature is pressuring the human species to evolve and rid itself of the incompetent. The tribes that don't will fail and those that do will flourish. This is the clearest evidence of evolution there is.
You fail this one Ruth. Entropy. People are not getting more intelligent. They are getting lazier, more foolish, gullible, distracted, and selfish. "Evolution", as taught typically, is a big fat lie, along with many big fat lies taught by failed institutional liars. John Leake is truthful, unique among contemporary educators; he speaks the truth. Darwin was a fraud, as is everyone who teaches his flawed precepts.
Seems like back when intelligence and aptitude were required to survive, or if not too bright, perish, that served to cull the population of the dumb ones. But today, this doesn't occur, at least in the United States. We all know of the many welfare programs, DEI, equity, equal rights, food banks, charitable organizations, that provide the social safety net to save everyone.
Social safety nets do not save it only increases the incompetence and despair all you have to do is look at the homeless population being facilitated around our country to note the other disregard for actual Humanity. People need to be called to a higher level of personal action responsibility
These qualities are due to the fact that multitudes are created and display their mental illness of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Look at old Don.
When it comes to risk assessment, better to act and have it be a false positive, and evacuate when it was unnecessary, than take no action and have a false negative when there was true risk - and those young souls gone before their time. I have the utmost empathy for the families, but I can't imagine having to live with this decision. So many lives ruined.
Indeed. Haven't they heard of expresson "Better safe than sorry"? Or do they think it's some kind of a joke? The warning said something like "lethal risk", and you can talk all you want how the individual's experience taught him that they cry wolf too often, but 27 lives ARE lost because of his decision.
"...risk assessment, better to act and have it be a false positive..."
So, in another scenario in another time and place, the guy who runs his charges out of their shelters and into the trees only to lose a dozen to a ligtning strike...he gets a pass when the flood doesn't wipe out the shelters?
A lightning strike's damage will be limited to one or a few, and the vast majority of people who are struck by lightning survive; whereas the flood puts all at risk, and survival rates for people caught in flash floods is very low. In the US there are around 250 million lightning flashes per year, with an estimated 36.8 million ground strikes. Lightning strikes kill around 20 people per year out of the approximate 400 who are struck. There's an average of 9 flash floods per year, killing an average of around 130 (escaping the flash floodwaters is rare). Knowing this, would you change your risk assessment?
“Not only is our society suffering from a competence deficit, it is also suffering from a widespread failure to understand and appreciate the virtue of competence.”
I call these individuals, ZOMBIES; they 'go through the motions', without THINKING (Zombies have NO BRAINS.....hence, the 'zombie' reference).
I loathe having to go out in public, any longer; Zombies......EVERYWHERE.
Example: Grocery shopping.
I swore 'up and down' that I would NEVER use those 'Self-checkouts'. (Because they are Anti-Human).
UNTIL......I could no longer take the INCOMPETENCE of the cashiers.
To be blunt.....they are now UTTER FUCKING MORONS!!
So, now I use the Self-checkout.
And that's just ONE example, for 'Grocery shopping'.
And it's like this, EVERYWHERE!
If there is a new bridge, or a new high-rise building, or anything else 'new' that could utterly FAIL.....because of INCOMPETENCE, I will not go on/in it!
Over the past several years......there have been many, MANY car accidents, involving teens/early-mid 20's. Dear 'Parents'......Your kids are TOO STUPID to BE BEHIND THE WHEEL of an AUTO!
You think that a 'few driving lessons'.....and they are 'good to go'?? WRONG!!
These 'kids' today are SO STUPID......they will need YEARS of SUPERVISED 'driving lessons', before they are 'cut loose', on their own!
The INCOMPETENCE today?.......is BREATHTAKING!!!!!
How many people have seen the 2006 film, 'Idiocracy'???
This IDIOTIC film has now BECOME a DOCUMENTARY that reflects where we are, today!
Amen, that used to be true but it’s the polar opposite today. The bottom feeding scum, the most corrupt, the pathological liars are who run for office because they know it’s a free ride. What’s that say about the voters that put them in office? Talk about incompetence…with purple and green hair to announce it.
This society is beyond Idiocracy, incompetence is rampant. That man was notified at least 45 minutes ahead of time of a LIFE THREATENING EVENT. Not sorry, what an idiot, no excuses
You are right John. I have a NOAA/NWS radio. Time and again they are amazingly accurate. Mr. Eastland should have acted immediately on the 1:14 am alert. He and all of his campers would be alive if he had. The alert said what would happen and said to move to higher ground. The flood came 2 hours later. People who are not familiar with using NOAA weather radios are not aware of how useful they are when set properly. Also read the story of one of the older Mystic campers in yesterday’s WSJ. It’s very revealing.
You're 100% right. We have a whole new breed of weenies in command that just stand around waiting to TAKE Orders and are unable to rub 2 synapses together and make intelligent decisions.
Some unreal people maybe family of the incompetent, sticking up for him but surely the message received was enough to action straight away, some people in jobs too long become blazé ......
No. The correct message would have been: There is a flash flood warning in place and due to geo-engineering taking place, the damage may be many times greater than ever experienced previously.
Then please explain how the public, CNN and the mainstream media showed the river cresting 30 feet in 1 hour at 8PM before it was dark outside; and no one notified the camp's downstream until 4AM? It takes 8 hours for just 1 person to make a phone call?? Weather Wars w/ HAARP, Project Invisibility + Projected Kinetics https://teslaleaks.com/f/weather-wars-w-haarp-project-invisibility-projected-kinetics
Also, don't forget the "West Texas Weather Modification Association", going strong seeding clouds for 30 years.... Check out the details on their website....
Nobody that saw the video's on CNN has a car? No one had a personal cell phone to take video's at the camp for 8 hours? When you see a river rise 30 feet in an hour, you don't warn anyone for 8 hours?
The camp disallowed cell phones. No idea if that included the manager of the camp. I attended a camp in the Sierras as a kid. about 100 ppl total.. One phone in the ranch house (ranch camp), where few people were during the day. Pre-cell days...
Nobody that saw the video's on CNN has a car? No one had a personal cell phone to take video's at the camp for 8 hours? When you see a river rise 30 feet in an hour, you don't warn anyone for 8 hours?
He received an alert 45 minutes before going down to check on the cabins. At that point they were flooded and the girls were doing their best on their own. He jumped in and did what he could but that lost 45 minutes would never return. He had time to move them but did not act fast enough.
HOWEVER, here we come to who really can take on a LOT of the blame: the media, particularly those who make every rain shower a red alert hide-under-your-bed-and-make-out-your-will event. The local and national news media - flip on Fox Weather right now for an example - saturate the screen in red constantly and treat what was once a sacred, modern miracle that allowed society to be safe and thrive (weather forecasts) as something like a continuing political campaign ad that tries to scare everyone into staying glued to their television or else reap the whirlwind.
It would not surprise me at all to learn he had gotten many such alerts over the past several years with almost all of them being false. Little Boy Blue is now Little Boy Red.
Sure as far as the media, but I receive adverse weather reports on my cell phone, it starts beeping, and the alert comes in from the weather service, which is not the MSM media. I find the alerts accurate.
As I said, he got an alert and ignored it. That is on him. But two things can be true at the same time. Alerts can be valid and the media can desensitize people to weather information by over-hyping everything. The population is large. Just because you and I recognize the difference between alerts and media weather reports doesn't mean that a significant portion of the population isn't getting affected. Sort of like black fatigue or making everything g@y. After a while people just stop caring about something because it is all they hear, all day, every day.
Eastland was in a unique position. He was responsible for the safety of countless lives. He knew the camp lay in a flood plain. He knew none of the campers had phones to alert them of danger. He absolutely couldn't "stop caring", or have "black fatigue" He had to be on the top of his game. We'll never know if he considered the weather warnings "another false alert", or if he thought "It's too late, I'm tired. we'll never know, but he made the wrong decision. The leaders of camp Mystic made a terrible rule to not allow those kids to have their phones, whoever they are, they should hang their heads in shame. The lawsuits will wipe that camp off the face of the earth.
I strongly agree with Mr. Leake. The cause of the lack of competence may, in part, be the educational system. The intense pressure to follow procedures rather than to use one's brain may be a large part of the problem. I've seen it many times as a university professor. Fortunately those incidents did not involve the loss of life.
Hi John Leake, I agree with you completely! I have no doubt that the late Camp Mystic director, Dick Eastland, was a good man. However, his judgment was lacking considerably in this particular situation!!!
Dick Eastland's judgment and competence were undermined by the lack of valid information. If he and others had been warmed about weather modification work taking place, warned that such work could amplify the damage, he might have acted differently. Competence cannot anticipate all deception and deceit and hidden causes.
I agree with John Leake. Another prime example of a CompetenceDeficit strongly exists at our HHS Agencies. These Agencies FDA, CDC, blindly endorse the Toxic/Fatal mRNAVaccine, disregarding the mention of government VAERS Facts of over 100's of thousands to Million Disabilities & American Deaths from mRNA Vaccines. Gross Ignorance or genocide?
I agree. Staff at a camp seven miles away just looked at the river rising and evacuated its seventy campers. Camp Mystic sent the campers in the cabins closest to the river to the Rec Center at one am, where they went to the second floor, and survived. They could have gone round to all the junior and low intermediate cabins and told the counselors to take all the girls at that time, one am, to either the Rec Center or to the senior cabins up the hill.
It was a terrifying night, pouring down rain, lightning and thunder. But it would have been common sense to evacuate just knowing the potential for a flash flood. That Eastland failed to evacuate the youngest girls was criminal negligence, and many paid with their lives, including him.
Trump is trying to sneak in Central Bank Digital Currency by another name. His GENIUS Act just passed the Senate. See coverage of this story in the exposing the darkness substuck.
He was there in July 17, 1987 when a flash flood wiped out a bus with 10 campers died, 33 injured trying to evacuate. Same circumstances no action. He is at fault, not the weather service
in the reverse, if he was familiar with past flooding events, like the one in the "80s, he should have reacted all the more quickly. The Guadalupe has history that he should have known.
This issue brings to light the lack of responsibility and accountability in society today. Competency, accountability, responsibility…mostly lost in the modern world.
Mankind is obviously devolving, evolution is clearly a lie. Excuses, deflection and gaslighting are the skill sets of the modern man. Thats what a phd gets you. Educated idiots…
Well put. Let me add. The most educated are the biggest idiots.
𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗽𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗥𝗡𝗔 𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝘃𝗮𝘅 𝗶𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗻𝗼𝘄....
https://t.co/b6AV3rm8dI
Of course we are no longer evolving. Our homes are climate controlled, as is pretty much every business building. We have been evolving with climate changer for millennia and now suddenly people see it as a threat, mostly because they are not able to adjust. Most would die in a week if our technology disappeared over night. I would suggest to most people that they get back to nature. Not the the Greenpeace/Disney version, not the government campsites and parks but explore the real undeveloped wilderness. Maybe they'll rediscover the resilience that makes us part of this amazing world.
Awareness is always forged by fire or trauma.
The incident will again re-focus an effort for maximum safety once more.
The loss of life this way is shocking to say the least.
Camping along river bottoms in Texas or anywhere is unavoidably unsafe.
Amen, Peter!
They prefer you to be dependent upon the system so you will beg and cower in fear when things get real. We have lost much ground compared to our great grandparents that came to the wilderness to build a civilization and thrive. Since electricity, man got soft…
They call it progress but in reality it’s regress..
This is sheer foolishness. There has Never been a civilization that has moved on and advanced by staying stagnant. Look at primitive tribes. If it hadn't for European and Middle Eastern and Asian exponential advancements they would still be wearing straw and animal hides. Not going to address taking advantage of their resources (although they weren't able to do so themselves) because that's a topic for another time. Yes, we have climate controlled homes and offices. No, most would t be able to live off the land, We don't have to. We don't need mules or horses any more. So what. The devolvement of man has occurred due to his inability to assess with proper critical thinking, and to worship the god of human secularism instead of the King of the universe.
Perhaps it's more about growing lazy.
A lost ability to recall it's my integrity/ dedication to do my things "well" in life.
So Yawn....on this occasion......I can let some other person worry over it.
Not a good personal trait to fall victim to!
This is one thing I too give my own concerns as becoming vulnerable to aging.
Will I remain alert and focused,
or will I develop an ability to fail, and not do things I have always done well?
Quite the opposite, actually. Nature is pressuring the human species to evolve and rid itself of the incompetent. The tribes that don't will fail and those that do will flourish. This is the clearest evidence of evolution there is.
You fail this one Ruth. Entropy. People are not getting more intelligent. They are getting lazier, more foolish, gullible, distracted, and selfish. "Evolution", as taught typically, is a big fat lie, along with many big fat lies taught by failed institutional liars. John Leake is truthful, unique among contemporary educators; he speaks the truth. Darwin was a fraud, as is everyone who teaches his flawed precepts.
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Thank you Mark peter...God bless you.
LOL. Your comment gave me a great laugh. Thank you.
Seems like back when intelligence and aptitude were required to survive, or if not too bright, perish, that served to cull the population of the dumb ones. But today, this doesn't occur, at least in the United States. We all know of the many welfare programs, DEI, equity, equal rights, food banks, charitable organizations, that provide the social safety net to save everyone.
Social safety nets do not save it only increases the incompetence and despair all you have to do is look at the homeless population being facilitated around our country to note the other disregard for actual Humanity. People need to be called to a higher level of personal action responsibility
Tell that to your grandmother…we will see how well this comment ages when you are elderly and “incompetent”…🍿🍿🍿
Grandfather and grandmother should have prepared like everyone else.
These qualities are due to the fact that multitudes are created and display their mental illness of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Look at old Don.
When it comes to risk assessment, better to act and have it be a false positive, and evacuate when it was unnecessary, than take no action and have a false negative when there was true risk - and those young souls gone before their time. I have the utmost empathy for the families, but I can't imagine having to live with this decision. So many lives ruined.
Totally agree - An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!
Indeed. Haven't they heard of expresson "Better safe than sorry"? Or do they think it's some kind of a joke? The warning said something like "lethal risk", and you can talk all you want how the individual's experience taught him that they cry wolf too often, but 27 lives ARE lost because of his decision.
"...risk assessment, better to act and have it be a false positive..."
So, in another scenario in another time and place, the guy who runs his charges out of their shelters and into the trees only to lose a dozen to a ligtning strike...he gets a pass when the flood doesn't wipe out the shelters?
The flash flood emergency alert warning in an area that was highly prone to flooding would weigh toward taking action.
So you say.
And, he did what he did.
What more is there to say?
A lightning strike's damage will be limited to one or a few, and the vast majority of people who are struck by lightning survive; whereas the flood puts all at risk, and survival rates for people caught in flash floods is very low. In the US there are around 250 million lightning flashes per year, with an estimated 36.8 million ground strikes. Lightning strikes kill around 20 people per year out of the approximate 400 who are struck. There's an average of 9 flash floods per year, killing an average of around 130 (escaping the flash floodwaters is rare). Knowing this, would you change your risk assessment?
“Not only is our society suffering from a competence deficit, it is also suffering from a widespread failure to understand and appreciate the virtue of competence.”
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The INCOMPETENCE, in our Society, is pervasive!
It's out there, for ALL to SEE.
I call these individuals, ZOMBIES; they 'go through the motions', without THINKING (Zombies have NO BRAINS.....hence, the 'zombie' reference).
I loathe having to go out in public, any longer; Zombies......EVERYWHERE.
Example: Grocery shopping.
I swore 'up and down' that I would NEVER use those 'Self-checkouts'. (Because they are Anti-Human).
UNTIL......I could no longer take the INCOMPETENCE of the cashiers.
To be blunt.....they are now UTTER FUCKING MORONS!!
So, now I use the Self-checkout.
And that's just ONE example, for 'Grocery shopping'.
And it's like this, EVERYWHERE!
If there is a new bridge, or a new high-rise building, or anything else 'new' that could utterly FAIL.....because of INCOMPETENCE, I will not go on/in it!
Over the past several years......there have been many, MANY car accidents, involving teens/early-mid 20's. Dear 'Parents'......Your kids are TOO STUPID to BE BEHIND THE WHEEL of an AUTO!
You think that a 'few driving lessons'.....and they are 'good to go'?? WRONG!!
These 'kids' today are SO STUPID......they will need YEARS of SUPERVISED 'driving lessons', before they are 'cut loose', on their own!
The INCOMPETENCE today?.......is BREATHTAKING!!!!!
How many people have seen the 2006 film, 'Idiocracy'???
This IDIOTIC film has now BECOME a DOCUMENTARY that reflects where we are, today!
Watch 'Idiocracy' free, here: https://archive.org/details/Idiocracy_201507
Notice that much of Congress is completely incompetent, and they're supposed to be our best and brightest!!
Amen, that used to be true but it’s the polar opposite today. The bottom feeding scum, the most corrupt, the pathological liars are who run for office because they know it’s a free ride. What’s that say about the voters that put them in office? Talk about incompetence…with purple and green hair to announce it.
This society is beyond Idiocracy, incompetence is rampant. That man was notified at least 45 minutes ahead of time of a LIFE THREATENING EVENT. Not sorry, what an idiot, no excuses
Yep!.......NO EXCUSES!
You are right John. I have a NOAA/NWS radio. Time and again they are amazingly accurate. Mr. Eastland should have acted immediately on the 1:14 am alert. He and all of his campers would be alive if he had. The alert said what would happen and said to move to higher ground. The flood came 2 hours later. People who are not familiar with using NOAA weather radios are not aware of how useful they are when set properly. Also read the story of one of the older Mystic campers in yesterday’s WSJ. It’s very revealing.
You're 100% right. We have a whole new breed of weenies in command that just stand around waiting to TAKE Orders and are unable to rub 2 synapses together and make intelligent decisions.
Some unreal people maybe family of the incompetent, sticking up for him but surely the message received was enough to action straight away, some people in jobs too long become blazé ......
No. The correct message would have been: There is a flash flood warning in place and due to geo-engineering taking place, the damage may be many times greater than ever experienced previously.
Then please explain how the public, CNN and the mainstream media showed the river cresting 30 feet in 1 hour at 8PM before it was dark outside; and no one notified the camp's downstream until 4AM? It takes 8 hours for just 1 person to make a phone call?? Weather Wars w/ HAARP, Project Invisibility + Projected Kinetics https://teslaleaks.com/f/weather-wars-w-haarp-project-invisibility-projected-kinetics
Also, don't forget the "West Texas Weather Modification Association", going strong seeding clouds for 30 years.... Check out the details on their website....
Nobody that saw the video's on CNN has a car? No one had a personal cell phone to take video's at the camp for 8 hours? When you see a river rise 30 feet in an hour, you don't warn anyone for 8 hours?
The camp disallowed cell phones. No idea if that included the manager of the camp. I attended a camp in the Sierras as a kid. about 100 ppl total.. One phone in the ranch house (ranch camp), where few people were during the day. Pre-cell days...
Nobody that saw the video's on CNN has a car? No one had a personal cell phone to take video's at the camp for 8 hours? When you see a river rise 30 feet in an hour, you don't warn anyone for 8 hours?
He received an alert 45 minutes before going down to check on the cabins. At that point they were flooded and the girls were doing their best on their own. He jumped in and did what he could but that lost 45 minutes would never return. He had time to move them but did not act fast enough.
HOWEVER, here we come to who really can take on a LOT of the blame: the media, particularly those who make every rain shower a red alert hide-under-your-bed-and-make-out-your-will event. The local and national news media - flip on Fox Weather right now for an example - saturate the screen in red constantly and treat what was once a sacred, modern miracle that allowed society to be safe and thrive (weather forecasts) as something like a continuing political campaign ad that tries to scare everyone into staying glued to their television or else reap the whirlwind.
It would not surprise me at all to learn he had gotten many such alerts over the past several years with almost all of them being false. Little Boy Blue is now Little Boy Red.
Sure as far as the media, but I receive adverse weather reports on my cell phone, it starts beeping, and the alert comes in from the weather service, which is not the MSM media. I find the alerts accurate.
As I said, he got an alert and ignored it. That is on him. But two things can be true at the same time. Alerts can be valid and the media can desensitize people to weather information by over-hyping everything. The population is large. Just because you and I recognize the difference between alerts and media weather reports doesn't mean that a significant portion of the population isn't getting affected. Sort of like black fatigue or making everything g@y. After a while people just stop caring about something because it is all they hear, all day, every day.
Eastland was in a unique position. He was responsible for the safety of countless lives. He knew the camp lay in a flood plain. He knew none of the campers had phones to alert them of danger. He absolutely couldn't "stop caring", or have "black fatigue" He had to be on the top of his game. We'll never know if he considered the weather warnings "another false alert", or if he thought "It's too late, I'm tired. we'll never know, but he made the wrong decision. The leaders of camp Mystic made a terrible rule to not allow those kids to have their phones, whoever they are, they should hang their heads in shame. The lawsuits will wipe that camp off the face of the earth.
Remember camp Mystic had no cell phones, or radios, except for Mr. Eastland
I strongly agree with Mr. Leake. The cause of the lack of competence may, in part, be the educational system. The intense pressure to follow procedures rather than to use one's brain may be a large part of the problem. I've seen it many times as a university professor. Fortunately those incidents did not involve the loss of life.
Hi John Leake, I agree with you completely! I have no doubt that the late Camp Mystic director, Dick Eastland, was a good man. However, his judgment was lacking considerably in this particular situation!!!
Dick Eastland's judgment and competence were undermined by the lack of valid information. If he and others had been warmed about weather modification work taking place, warned that such work could amplify the damage, he might have acted differently. Competence cannot anticipate all deception and deceit and hidden causes.
I agree with John Leake. Another prime example of a CompetenceDeficit strongly exists at our HHS Agencies. These Agencies FDA, CDC, blindly endorse the Toxic/Fatal mRNAVaccine, disregarding the mention of government VAERS Facts of over 100's of thousands to Million Disabilities & American Deaths from mRNA Vaccines. Gross Ignorance or genocide?
I agree. Staff at a camp seven miles away just looked at the river rising and evacuated its seventy campers. Camp Mystic sent the campers in the cabins closest to the river to the Rec Center at one am, where they went to the second floor, and survived. They could have gone round to all the junior and low intermediate cabins and told the counselors to take all the girls at that time, one am, to either the Rec Center or to the senior cabins up the hill.
It was a terrifying night, pouring down rain, lightning and thunder. But it would have been common sense to evacuate just knowing the potential for a flash flood. That Eastland failed to evacuate the youngest girls was criminal negligence, and many paid with their lives, including him.
Trump is trying to sneak in Central Bank Digital Currency by another name. His GENIUS Act just passed the Senate. See coverage of this story in the exposing the darkness substuck.
no, he. is not. You need to get educated, and get your head out of bad sources. It is to regulate to stabilize the dollar.
I think Tolkien decided that good leaders were extremely few in number. Too many with blinding egos and axes to grind. Tally ho !
He was there in July 17, 1987 when a flash flood wiped out a bus with 10 campers died, 33 injured trying to evacuate. Same circumstances no action. He is at fault, not the weather service
in the reverse, if he was familiar with past flooding events, like the one in the "80s, he should have reacted all the more quickly. The Guadalupe has history that he should have known.