There's an interesting parralell with the voyage of the Apostle Paul from Palestine to Rome, just under 2000 years ago. The ship carrying him met with a storm of the type you describe. Eventually the crew were able to hold the ship with four anchors off the coast of Malta during the night. The next morning they decided to let the anchors go and allow the wind to drive the ship into a sandy bay - a manouvre that was successful. The account of the shipwreck is given in Acts 27. A well-known book by an experienced British sailor, James Smith, sought to validate the biblical account based on modern knowledge of the behaviour of winds and storms in the Mediterranean. It was published in 1848 with the title "The Voyage and Shipwreck of St. Paul".
Yes, and a research expedition in the year 2000 found all 4 anchors in the bay, in a line as if they had been let go as a ship was being driven toward the shore in a storm. The anchors were independently dated by an antiquarian ship expert to be from circa 1st century AD. Read The Lost Shipwreck of Paul that tells the amazing story of the search for and discovery of the anchors on Malta, written by Bob Cornucke.
The way this world has been working it is neither a stretch or a struggle to consider foul play or foul incompetence…both have been the driving force of the last few years!
Thank you, John for such a well written and understandable explanation for what happened, as we thus far know and what should have happened… explaining there is indeed a gap. This all leads us to understand better what all of our gut instinct is screaming, “there is something terribly wrong with that ship sinking.” How ever it happened technically, God is in control and what you reap in this life we will surely sew in this life. There are never random coincidences.
John, Congratulations...we have all seen the evolution of your thinking on THIS subject, and you have rightly changed your point of view as you got more information. Your thinking (and writing) is a model of good reporting and good analysis.
Thanks so much, John. Your analyses of this incident, backed up by a true expert's opinion, (the shipbuilder's), asking all the right questions*, possesses ALL the credulity of true journalism and investigative reporting. We The People believed we HAD this in our supposed "free press", guaranteed in our Bill of Rights. Today's experts in the MSM fake news are akin to a parade of clowns, and, sadly, that same parade, or their cousins, are ruling over us at the moment. While it's more palatable for me to surmise that these ruling clowns are either drug-addled or incompetent, they are "asleep at the switch", just like skipper of the Bayesian may have been. I say, "more palatable" because KNOWING that the clowns are perpetrating this destruction on purpose is a harsh wake-up call! However, my heart is screaming aloud in my mind that more clown-devised sinister schemes are afoot for my beloved nation and they and their devisers are EVIL INCARNATE!
* I was tickled to learn of your friendship with Dr. Risch and that his response was included in a subsequent Bayesian article. Granted, I am a nobody, a grammie in Florida, who sniffed out a rat in the schemes of the co-vid nonsense and contacted Dr. Risch directly. I located his email, included in the white paper supplied by the Frontline Doctors in their first covid summit back in June 2020. HE RESPONDED BACK TO ME!! This was before he was flooded with emails and invited to appear before Congress and everywhere else! Dr. Risch was email buddy and Dr. Zev Zelenko was my texting buddy. God rest Dr. Zelenko's courageous soul and magnify his joy in heaven!
"Civilizational collapse, then, looks like this dynamic at the scale of an entire civilization: a low-grade but constant loss of capabilities and knowledge throughout the most critical parts of our institutions, that eventually degrades our ability to perpetuate society. There might be a sudden point where the superstructure gives way dramatically, such as occurred during the Bronze Age Collapse, or there might be slow accommodation to this convergence to zero, as with the Byzantine Empire. The key dynamic here is the loss of the subtle social technologies that allow us to solve the succession problem. Running a large and complex institution requires skills which are often difficult to fully pass on."
TF, the nation is collapsing due to the loss of the will to live and fight and retrieve its roots. the nation has been infiltrated by a subversive communist spirit that criticizes all things, that specifically focuses all of its efforts to undermine and attacks the societal foundations of America and the West at its core roots: Freedom and prospertity through hard work and merit, Christianity, freedom of conscience, speech and worship, and the nuclear family. All other discussions about the loss of knowledge and related are just distractions as they name the direct consequences of the results of the above foundations that are under a state of non-stop subversive attack.
The problem with every news cycle these days is we have no idea what is true or not true. even my well honed cynicism as a result of corona mania does not make me think anything more than the crew was simply unprepared, negligent in this case. Bad weather blew up they didn't take the right precautions and unfortunately, the ship went down fast. otherwise, to whom are we pointing the finger who needed this man dead after his acquittal and how did he get a little old lady to run over the other guy in England just days earlier?
This is exactly what I thought. It’s mind-boggling that all of these simple errors and colossal ignorant mistakes took place so I have been thinking vax brain. I will think that until another sailing expert or top captain tells me oh it’s very easy for these mistakes to occur
The interesting and informative comment above in this thread, detailing the boat’s inherent safety issues, still does not explain to me how the crew survived and all the passengers drowned.
Great observation. No doubt you have experienced the same trepidation most of us feel when we view our current State Department and when we notice Janet Yellen fiddling with the rudder. Captain Biden completes the cast of incompetents piloting the out of control ship of state. The slightest breeze will soon send us to the bottom of the sea. Meanwhile, many sare working on life boats, prepping for the impending events. I'm thinking I must seriously consider joining them.
"He had bought a large map, representing the sea, without the least vestige of land. And the crew were well pleased when they found it to be a map they could all understand. 'What's the use of Mercator's North Pole and Equators, tropics, zones, and Meridian lines?' so the Bellman would cry, and the crew would reply 'They are merely conventional signs. Other maps have such shapes, with their islands and capes, but we have our brave Captain to thank, that's he's bought us the best, the absolute best, a perfect and absolute blank.'"
There's an interesting parralell with the voyage of the Apostle Paul from Palestine to Rome, just under 2000 years ago. The ship carrying him met with a storm of the type you describe. Eventually the crew were able to hold the ship with four anchors off the coast of Malta during the night. The next morning they decided to let the anchors go and allow the wind to drive the ship into a sandy bay - a manouvre that was successful. The account of the shipwreck is given in Acts 27. A well-known book by an experienced British sailor, James Smith, sought to validate the biblical account based on modern knowledge of the behaviour of winds and storms in the Mediterranean. It was published in 1848 with the title "The Voyage and Shipwreck of St. Paul".
Yes, and a research expedition in the year 2000 found all 4 anchors in the bay, in a line as if they had been let go as a ship was being driven toward the shore in a storm. The anchors were independently dated by an antiquarian ship expert to be from circa 1st century AD. Read The Lost Shipwreck of Paul that tells the amazing story of the search for and discovery of the anchors on Malta, written by Bob Cornucke.
Great book!
That Biblical account is rich with truths, symbolism and metaphors, while also being very technically accurate. One of my favorites.
The way this world has been working it is neither a stretch or a struggle to consider foul play or foul incompetence…both have been the driving force of the last few years!
Indeed, the list of compounding factors is too co-incidental to be accidental.
Correlation may not be causation, but it is high probability.
Wow. John Leake. Your knowledge and firsthand experiences are amazing. And you're still young!
We do know, for sure, though, that Nero persecuted and murdered thousands of Christians.
John Leake, you provide a wonderful perspective here. Bravo!!!!
Thank you, John for such a well written and understandable explanation for what happened, as we thus far know and what should have happened… explaining there is indeed a gap. This all leads us to understand better what all of our gut instinct is screaming, “there is something terribly wrong with that ship sinking.” How ever it happened technically, God is in control and what you reap in this life we will surely sew in this life. There are never random coincidences.
Totally agree….there are NEVER random coincidences.
It is obvious that "Atlas is shrugging, and the Captain might have been heard to utter, "who is John Galt?"
"Plausible Deniability" is the operant context for any "event' in Bayesian "predicted" / "synthesized" "reality".
John, Congratulations...we have all seen the evolution of your thinking on THIS subject, and you have rightly changed your point of view as you got more information. Your thinking (and writing) is a model of good reporting and good analysis.
Thanks so much, John. Your analyses of this incident, backed up by a true expert's opinion, (the shipbuilder's), asking all the right questions*, possesses ALL the credulity of true journalism and investigative reporting. We The People believed we HAD this in our supposed "free press", guaranteed in our Bill of Rights. Today's experts in the MSM fake news are akin to a parade of clowns, and, sadly, that same parade, or their cousins, are ruling over us at the moment. While it's more palatable for me to surmise that these ruling clowns are either drug-addled or incompetent, they are "asleep at the switch", just like skipper of the Bayesian may have been. I say, "more palatable" because KNOWING that the clowns are perpetrating this destruction on purpose is a harsh wake-up call! However, my heart is screaming aloud in my mind that more clown-devised sinister schemes are afoot for my beloved nation and they and their devisers are EVIL INCARNATE!
* I was tickled to learn of your friendship with Dr. Risch and that his response was included in a subsequent Bayesian article. Granted, I am a nobody, a grammie in Florida, who sniffed out a rat in the schemes of the co-vid nonsense and contacted Dr. Risch directly. I located his email, included in the white paper supplied by the Frontline Doctors in their first covid summit back in June 2020. HE RESPONDED BACK TO ME!! This was before he was flooded with emails and invited to appear before Congress and everywhere else! Dr. Risch was email buddy and Dr. Zev Zelenko was my texting buddy. God rest Dr. Zelenko's courageous soul and magnify his joy in heaven!
This stack reminds me of the article at this link by Samo Burja, "Why Civilizations Collapse" https://thesideview.co/journal/why-civilizations-collapse/
The whole article is a must read
"Civilizational collapse, then, looks like this dynamic at the scale of an entire civilization: a low-grade but constant loss of capabilities and knowledge throughout the most critical parts of our institutions, that eventually degrades our ability to perpetuate society. There might be a sudden point where the superstructure gives way dramatically, such as occurred during the Bronze Age Collapse, or there might be slow accommodation to this convergence to zero, as with the Byzantine Empire. The key dynamic here is the loss of the subtle social technologies that allow us to solve the succession problem. Running a large and complex institution requires skills which are often difficult to fully pass on."
TF, the nation is collapsing due to the loss of the will to live and fight and retrieve its roots. the nation has been infiltrated by a subversive communist spirit that criticizes all things, that specifically focuses all of its efforts to undermine and attacks the societal foundations of America and the West at its core roots: Freedom and prospertity through hard work and merit, Christianity, freedom of conscience, speech and worship, and the nuclear family. All other discussions about the loss of knowledge and related are just distractions as they name the direct consequences of the results of the above foundations that are under a state of non-stop subversive attack.
The problem with every news cycle these days is we have no idea what is true or not true. even my well honed cynicism as a result of corona mania does not make me think anything more than the crew was simply unprepared, negligent in this case. Bad weather blew up they didn't take the right precautions and unfortunately, the ship went down fast. otherwise, to whom are we pointing the finger who needed this man dead after his acquittal and how did he get a little old lady to run over the other guy in England just days earlier?
Not everyone does well under pressure.
Did all of the crew of the yacht live or die? Because their interviews would tell the story.
Seems like the crew survived, with the exception of the chef. The chef, you say? Hmmmmm…
Perhaps it was a 'vaxident?'
This is exactly what I thought. It’s mind-boggling that all of these simple errors and colossal ignorant mistakes took place so I have been thinking vax brain. I will think that until another sailing expert or top captain tells me oh it’s very easy for these mistakes to occur
So, who were the 15 people rescued while the other 5/6 died? Was the skipper among them?
The interesting and informative comment above in this thread, detailing the boat’s inherent safety issues, still does not explain to me how the crew survived and all the passengers drowned.
The guests were below sleeping it off in the staterooms, I'll wager. No time to save themselves
Great observation. No doubt you have experienced the same trepidation most of us feel when we view our current State Department and when we notice Janet Yellen fiddling with the rudder. Captain Biden completes the cast of incompetents piloting the out of control ship of state. The slightest breeze will soon send us to the bottom of the sea. Meanwhile, many sare working on life boats, prepping for the impending events. I'm thinking I must seriously consider joining them.
"He had bought a large map, representing the sea, without the least vestige of land. And the crew were well pleased when they found it to be a map they could all understand. 'What's the use of Mercator's North Pole and Equators, tropics, zones, and Meridian lines?' so the Bellman would cry, and the crew would reply 'They are merely conventional signs. Other maps have such shapes, with their islands and capes, but we have our brave Captain to thank, that's he's bought us the best, the absolute best, a perfect and absolute blank.'"