I would say you're going too far with calling it lewd and vulger. It's just a childish skit and it's kind of funny. No harm done to anybody. Bravo Sharon S.
Nice article and timely. The problem with the modern world is that it is not an authentic compassion for others they are bludgeoning others with, it is an excuse to attack. It all reminds me of a prayer by a persecuted nun in the sixteen hundreds, "Lord protect me from those that would hide their malace behind a mask of virtue"
Comedy isn't an endorsement of anything. It is simply a means to point out absurdities, contradictions, the dark and light side of human nature, tragedy and farce.
Anyone who thinks comedy needs to be sensitive clearly believes that comedy IS an endorsement of something.
But that's not comedy. That's just an opinion or propaganda.
Exactly. Humor has a mysterious effect, not unlike tragic catharsis in a tragedy, and perhaps part of it's effect is how it offends I'm sure there are learned, probably Greek understandings of this. Think of the farting scene in Blazing Saddles, how it goes on for a particular length of time, so that all those who are offended, and disgusted, finally, also begin to laugh. It is genius. Somehow, sometimes, good humor mobilizes what David Mamet calls "the raging conflict between the conscious and unconscious minds" and for a moment or two, dissipates that. Although I'm sure there are more erudite theories lol. Here's a joke from my brother, who whispered it to me in my mom's empty condo at the height of MeToo: "She said get off, and I said okay" Then there's an old one, which was new to me, about the Holocaust. (There's a whole category of jokes called galgen humor, or Holocaust humore). Two concentration camp survivors are in heaven mocking a particularly vicious camp guard, making fun of the horrible atrocities he committed. God comes over and says "how can you make light of such evil?" One of the death camp survivors says "I guess you had to be there"
I don't know if any creative types will read this but let me offer something of further consideration in terms of Hollywood, shame and how I think it is even worse than the back-room depravity among adults (I'm excluding the exploitation of children because there is nothing worse than that).
If you've ever watched a film with someone who isn't particularly aware of the different layers astute and talented filmmakers such as Kubrick or even Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul fame put into their work, and then you discuss it with them, if they have any appreciation of art at all they usually light up and immediately understand just why they were maybe more moved by the sounds, dialog an images than watching, say, some formulaic, low-effort, straight-to-DVD B movie. They start to understand the power of symbols to convey deeper meaning, the power of color palettes to impact mood and the power of certain turns of phrase or facial expressions to bring the viewer in line with the artist's message.
What Hollywood has not only allowed to happen but willfully participated in is a systematic capture of its entire cast of characters from the caterer to the electricians to the set designers to the writers to the actors and directors for the sole purpose of using the power and majesty of the art to create deranged propaganda against its own workers, viewers and citizens. It has allowed itself to be gang-raped and impregnated by absolute demons such that the offspring is now eating its parents, free-expression and beauty. Imagine what the following generation of these demon spawns will produce as they inbreed even more with the remaining mentally-ill degenerates.
That's their true shame. They've raped and murdered their own art.
She nailed it John...nothing is normal anymore...NOTHING. Relationships from middle school to long-term marriages, comedy, the ability to laugh at each other even over stereotypes that do exist based on some hilarious truths.. It's now just a gross abnormal world and my heart aches for my kids growing up in it.
You're also correct. True humor, where every stereotype receives some attention, draws people together. Part of "the agenda" is this humorless, sour Salem-witch hunt toward comedy. People who laugh together generally like each other.
SNL is the television program that has done more damage to comedy than any other in the history of the medium. Infantile, spiteful, talentless — all the qualities that define the Generation of ‘68.
Equity plays a role here. Equity is the within the first volley of re distribution of wealth and ownership.
How am I going to get you to give up your control of your:
earnings(money you earned is actually leased)
Stake holder ownership of your geo political wealth, lets say "water" "minerals" "your ethics,Huh?)"
a few examples.
THEY know you will never give up wealth,,, unless I force society to excise if you don't, how.
You achieved your wealth unfairly, by the abuse of your 4th removed grandparents did you acquire this ill gotten gain. Time to give it us so we can distribute it fairly.
Mineral wealth doesn't belong to the members of the geo political demarced(?), it was unfairly stolen from those that were here before. You have profited from the ill gotten gains of your 4th removed. Give it to us we will distribute it fairly.
They will never get you give up your, human right to water.
Without first making you:
unsure of yourself, am I really a thief, were my forefathers abusers, did the world really live in Pandora(not sure about that reference) before we came along.
Has everything I worked for and the life I thought was honourable been built on stolen property and suffering.
If i give it to you great corporation of profit driven "Equity" can you make me right again.
I could go on and on, Equity = shame, the question is shame on who.
IVERMECTIN/Hydroxy work. Who knew,When did they know,Who suppressed it.
My fav Dana Carvey bit on SNL was Ching Chang, the asian man who sold chickens! Hilarious!
In the 80’s we knew who WE were, and we knew how to take a joke. GEEZ. I wish it was as easy as saying “everybody lighten up!” but the problem is deeper, unfortunately.
Rosie, I tried to find a link to Ching Chang, Dana C and found zip. Maybe a 100 videos for Carvey, not a ONE with Ching Chang. "Chicken Make Lousy House Pet" ref found elsewhere and that did not find it either.
Amen to that! Shame is a killer. The more we can let go of burdensome shame, the much better off (and more joyful!) we are. (See Dr. Breggin’s terrific book “Guilt, Shame, and Anxiety: Overcoming Negative Emotions”.)
If I'm not mistaken, Dana Carvey has also been making fun of Biden and the bogus Covid narrative. One wonders how much THAT has to do with digging up a skit from 30 years ago.
Different times, different social standards. I understand that. Just as different countries have different social standards. The key is respecting other people's needs and not trampling on them. 9 out of 10 people you meet on the street you wouldn't want as a friend but they too have friends so don't force your own morals to other people, just respect the differences and move along.
I often wonder what Weinstein and Epstein did in order to get thrown out of the clique? Since they are serial psychopaths, it couldn't be worse behavior. These guys operated for decades, and everybody knew. More than likely they threatened to come clean and expose the cabal. A message needed to be sent that no one is safe. But the leaks keep coming, they cant stop it.
If they did get thrown out at all it's probably just trying to blackmail the wrong people at the wrong time. Attempting to capitalise on an upcoming election for example. I have my doubts that person who didn't kill himself is even dead. If we can't even investigate a suicide on suicide watch or commit a clearly demented leader... they're not even trying really. They don't have to. Why make the effort when you can just push people's buttons to make them emotional and stupid for practically free? Yes the leaks keep coming but people can't know if they're true or even pay attention long enough to care. No wonder all these disgusting people are so smug looking. Nevermind, being involved with such creatures takes a toll whether we get to see it or not. Here in Australia I laugh at all these politicians doing their damnedest to usher in the Chinese, as if the Chinese will repay their loyalty 😁
Trying to justify the exploitation of women are we? Had this skit been an honest, vulgar thing pinging humans’ fascination with undressed members of the opposite sex, it would have included male and female agents, asking a male and female flyer to remove their clothing layer by layer. The guy would have become a sex object along with the female. Same humor but for both viewing genders to enjoy. Just like the transgender movement is, by and large, about men identifying as females in order to get into female public places where they can ogle and attack women, most vulgarity is done at womens’ expense. I’d like to see mens’ showers and bathrooms descended on by women. Embarrassing men. And men objectified more. Better still, we ought to be more respectful of people in their privacy moments,and see what else we can find about humans that is funny. There is a lot of material out there to work with. ‘Course, this will require men to outgrow their adolescent fixation on naked women’s bodies but that seems a viable goal to move toward.
While your last sentence is wrong, as it’s not an adolescent fixation but hard-wired for the benefit of the propagation of humanity…
Sharon Stone’s taking this role here is no different than a female employee of one of those ironically-named clubs that cater to the basest men’s basest interests…depersonalizing women for the pleasure of men…
I have to admit that as an adolescent girl, I was mortally embarrassed by the appearance of women’s undergarments in cartoons for laughs…like I was somehow not a part of the joke….
But here are two dozen honorable men fining nothing wrong with laughs at the expense of women’s bodies… :(
my Lord Jesus Christ demanded that men who follow Him refrain from even thoughts of lust! “If you even think of a woman with lust you are guilty of adultery.” Fascinating! Up to that point in human history, in the pagan world, women were free-for-all objects for men,
but He says neither are women objects, nor are men animals!
Thus He tells us it is not only possible but required of a man to control his thoughts, let alone his actions! That to do otherwise is to be liable for nothing less than His Crucifixion. Yikes.
I know it’s a deal-breaker for many men. And at the very least a struggle.
But…with His grace…
“What is impossible for man is possible with God.”
P.S. not sure if God counts crying as a result of insult a sin lol, but certainly His Church extols those who accept insult in the style of the Lamb ;)
I would say you're going too far with calling it lewd and vulger. It's just a childish skit and it's kind of funny. No harm done to anybody. Bravo Sharon S.
Nice article and timely. The problem with the modern world is that it is not an authentic compassion for others they are bludgeoning others with, it is an excuse to attack. It all reminds me of a prayer by a persecuted nun in the sixteen hundreds, "Lord protect me from those that would hide their malace behind a mask of virtue"
Comedy isn't an endorsement of anything. It is simply a means to point out absurdities, contradictions, the dark and light side of human nature, tragedy and farce.
Anyone who thinks comedy needs to be sensitive clearly believes that comedy IS an endorsement of something.
But that's not comedy. That's just an opinion or propaganda.
Exactly. Humor has a mysterious effect, not unlike tragic catharsis in a tragedy, and perhaps part of it's effect is how it offends I'm sure there are learned, probably Greek understandings of this. Think of the farting scene in Blazing Saddles, how it goes on for a particular length of time, so that all those who are offended, and disgusted, finally, also begin to laugh. It is genius. Somehow, sometimes, good humor mobilizes what David Mamet calls "the raging conflict between the conscious and unconscious minds" and for a moment or two, dissipates that. Although I'm sure there are more erudite theories lol. Here's a joke from my brother, who whispered it to me in my mom's empty condo at the height of MeToo: "She said get off, and I said okay" Then there's an old one, which was new to me, about the Holocaust. (There's a whole category of jokes called galgen humor, or Holocaust humore). Two concentration camp survivors are in heaven mocking a particularly vicious camp guard, making fun of the horrible atrocities he committed. God comes over and says "how can you make light of such evil?" One of the death camp survivors says "I guess you had to be there"
I don't know if any creative types will read this but let me offer something of further consideration in terms of Hollywood, shame and how I think it is even worse than the back-room depravity among adults (I'm excluding the exploitation of children because there is nothing worse than that).
If you've ever watched a film with someone who isn't particularly aware of the different layers astute and talented filmmakers such as Kubrick or even Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul fame put into their work, and then you discuss it with them, if they have any appreciation of art at all they usually light up and immediately understand just why they were maybe more moved by the sounds, dialog an images than watching, say, some formulaic, low-effort, straight-to-DVD B movie. They start to understand the power of symbols to convey deeper meaning, the power of color palettes to impact mood and the power of certain turns of phrase or facial expressions to bring the viewer in line with the artist's message.
What Hollywood has not only allowed to happen but willfully participated in is a systematic capture of its entire cast of characters from the caterer to the electricians to the set designers to the writers to the actors and directors for the sole purpose of using the power and majesty of the art to create deranged propaganda against its own workers, viewers and citizens. It has allowed itself to be gang-raped and impregnated by absolute demons such that the offspring is now eating its parents, free-expression and beauty. Imagine what the following generation of these demon spawns will produce as they inbreed even more with the remaining mentally-ill degenerates.
That's their true shame. They've raped and murdered their own art.
Brava to you!! Well stated.
She nailed it John...nothing is normal anymore...NOTHING. Relationships from middle school to long-term marriages, comedy, the ability to laugh at each other even over stereotypes that do exist based on some hilarious truths.. It's now just a gross abnormal world and my heart aches for my kids growing up in it.
You're also correct. True humor, where every stereotype receives some attention, draws people together. Part of "the agenda" is this humorless, sour Salem-witch hunt toward comedy. People who laugh together generally like each other.
Absolutely!
I have never watched the communist night time shows. I was done after Johnny left the scene.
Johnny and remember Tom Snyder?!
And he would smoke and smoke and he had that goofy laugh. Miss all those shows.
Sharon was just employing her born good looks to make a living. (notice i did not say decent living)
SNL was designed for late night laughter and riding the waves of being fined by FTC or ??
SNL was very good at ripping the political theater skits to a new standards back then. Good on em
SNL is the television program that has done more damage to comedy than any other in the history of the medium. Infantile, spiteful, talentless — all the qualities that define the Generation of ‘68.
You are right. . . in the early 70's, 80's I laughed a lot at them and then they lost the great ones. . . dead and often disgusting ever since.
Ruth Buzzi, Chevy Chase, et al
Omg Ruth buzzi! Thx for mentioning her. She was funny. God I miss the 70s and 80s
Shame maybe.
More likely the 'E' in DEI.
Equity plays a role here. Equity is the within the first volley of re distribution of wealth and ownership.
How am I going to get you to give up your control of your:
earnings(money you earned is actually leased)
Stake holder ownership of your geo political wealth, lets say "water" "minerals" "your ethics,Huh?)"
a few examples.
THEY know you will never give up wealth,,, unless I force society to excise if you don't, how.
You achieved your wealth unfairly, by the abuse of your 4th removed grandparents did you acquire this ill gotten gain. Time to give it us so we can distribute it fairly.
Mineral wealth doesn't belong to the members of the geo political demarced(?), it was unfairly stolen from those that were here before. You have profited from the ill gotten gains of your 4th removed. Give it to us we will distribute it fairly.
They will never get you give up your, human right to water.
Without first making you:
unsure of yourself, am I really a thief, were my forefathers abusers, did the world really live in Pandora(not sure about that reference) before we came along.
Has everything I worked for and the life I thought was honourable been built on stolen property and suffering.
If i give it to you great corporation of profit driven "Equity" can you make me right again.
I could go on and on, Equity = shame, the question is shame on who.
IVERMECTIN/Hydroxy work. Who knew,When did they know,Who suppressed it.
Accountability Now,Now,Now
Shawn663
My fav Dana Carvey bit on SNL was Ching Chang, the asian man who sold chickens! Hilarious!
In the 80’s we knew who WE were, and we knew how to take a joke. GEEZ. I wish it was as easy as saying “everybody lighten up!” but the problem is deeper, unfortunately.
Rosie, I tried to find a link to Ching Chang, Dana C and found zip. Maybe a 100 videos for Carvey, not a ONE with Ching Chang. "Chicken Make Lousy House Pet" ref found elsewhere and that did not find it either.
I'll bet anything, Utube purged it.
😑Probably, pretty-red, old guy. Bummer.
Amen to that! Shame is a killer. The more we can let go of burdensome shame, the much better off (and more joyful!) we are. (See Dr. Breggin’s terrific book “Guilt, Shame, and Anxiety: Overcoming Negative Emotions”.)
If I'm not mistaken, Dana Carvey has also been making fun of Biden and the bogus Covid narrative. One wonders how much THAT has to do with digging up a skit from 30 years ago.
Censorship 101
Different times, different social standards. I understand that. Just as different countries have different social standards. The key is respecting other people's needs and not trampling on them. 9 out of 10 people you meet on the street you wouldn't want as a friend but they too have friends so don't force your own morals to other people, just respect the differences and move along.
I often wonder what Weinstein and Epstein did in order to get thrown out of the clique? Since they are serial psychopaths, it couldn't be worse behavior. These guys operated for decades, and everybody knew. More than likely they threatened to come clean and expose the cabal. A message needed to be sent that no one is safe. But the leaks keep coming, they cant stop it.
If they did get thrown out at all it's probably just trying to blackmail the wrong people at the wrong time. Attempting to capitalise on an upcoming election for example. I have my doubts that person who didn't kill himself is even dead. If we can't even investigate a suicide on suicide watch or commit a clearly demented leader... they're not even trying really. They don't have to. Why make the effort when you can just push people's buttons to make them emotional and stupid for practically free? Yes the leaks keep coming but people can't know if they're true or even pay attention long enough to care. No wonder all these disgusting people are so smug looking. Nevermind, being involved with such creatures takes a toll whether we get to see it or not. Here in Australia I laugh at all these politicians doing their damnedest to usher in the Chinese, as if the Chinese will repay their loyalty 😁
Trying to justify the exploitation of women are we? Had this skit been an honest, vulgar thing pinging humans’ fascination with undressed members of the opposite sex, it would have included male and female agents, asking a male and female flyer to remove their clothing layer by layer. The guy would have become a sex object along with the female. Same humor but for both viewing genders to enjoy. Just like the transgender movement is, by and large, about men identifying as females in order to get into female public places where they can ogle and attack women, most vulgarity is done at womens’ expense. I’d like to see mens’ showers and bathrooms descended on by women. Embarrassing men. And men objectified more. Better still, we ought to be more respectful of people in their privacy moments,and see what else we can find about humans that is funny. There is a lot of material out there to work with. ‘Course, this will require men to outgrow their adolescent fixation on naked women’s bodies but that seems a viable goal to move toward.
While your last sentence is wrong, as it’s not an adolescent fixation but hard-wired for the benefit of the propagation of humanity…
Sharon Stone’s taking this role here is no different than a female employee of one of those ironically-named clubs that cater to the basest men’s basest interests…depersonalizing women for the pleasure of men…
I have to admit that as an adolescent girl, I was mortally embarrassed by the appearance of women’s undergarments in cartoons for laughs…like I was somehow not a part of the joke….
But here are two dozen honorable men fining nothing wrong with laughs at the expense of women’s bodies… :(
SHIF. . . yes, you got that right about men. TOTALLY hard wired.
Not only that, guys can NOT do much about this. Once that engine is switched on at high rev, ain't no slowing it down.
The brain has only one track . . .
Probably like the fairer sex's response to denigration and personal insults-- hard wired-- crying WILL result. . . estrangement to soon follow.
I am generalizing now. . . !
“Guys can NOT do much about this…”
I won’t argue with you, Pretty-Red…
And YET, which is totally fascinating to me,
my Lord Jesus Christ demanded that men who follow Him refrain from even thoughts of lust! “If you even think of a woman with lust you are guilty of adultery.” Fascinating! Up to that point in human history, in the pagan world, women were free-for-all objects for men,
but He says neither are women objects, nor are men animals!
Thus He tells us it is not only possible but required of a man to control his thoughts, let alone his actions! That to do otherwise is to be liable for nothing less than His Crucifixion. Yikes.
I know it’s a deal-breaker for many men. And at the very least a struggle.
But…with His grace…
“What is impossible for man is possible with God.”
P.S. not sure if God counts crying as a result of insult a sin lol, but certainly His Church extols those who accept insult in the style of the Lamb ;)
Happy Easter!
well said.
I am mortal and fallible, for dang sure.
What is more appealing to a man than a hot woman's skin!? ;-)
Sharon Stone is wrong in that not even a misdemeanor was committed.
come on Man!
She was speaking rhetorically.
C'mon man, I was speaking metaphorically too.