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J Guti's avatar

Her daddy (Grady Means) worked for Rockefeller, her brother (Calley Means) is in the CFR. Cmon John, wake up!

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Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH's avatar

This is John Leake replying. My grandfather was close pals friend of George H.W. Bush and one of my closest family friends worked for Nelson Rockefeller. Having ancestors who worked for huge American institutions does not mean that one is still serving their interests. See Tyler Shultz/George Shultz/Theranos.

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Caren Starlin, LPN's avatar

I agree with you 100%, John. I watched both interviews with Casey & Calley on Tucker & Rogan & I was very impressed with their quick intelligence with data to back it up. Casey was in her last year of residency and knew she couldn’t live a lie any longer; and Calley worked in the food & pharmaceutical industries in the past where he witnessed first hand the corruption in both industries and he got out. I would think if Casey and Calley were a part of the corrupt industrial pharmaceutical complex, they would have stayed where they were!

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Here We Are's avatar

As a physician, I can say with certainty that it takes an incredible amount of courage to leave a residency and forge a completely different path. Especially as she was in a prestigious surgical residency and in her last year and “ threw down her scalpel” and quit. That takes true courage, and commitment to a different course of action. Most Physicians wouldn’t do it because it would mean, losing all credibility for what they’ve accomplished already. She threw it all away because she felt so strongly about it. I believe her.

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working rich's avatar

Nope, she is out there. Huge red flag. Not completing her residency means she is nutty. Let's ask her fellow residents - best people to judge her. Will some reporter have the courage?

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David 1260's avatar

After seeing conventional doctors kow-tow to institutional medicine during the Pandemic, you would ask conformist members of the herd to opine on the black sheep?

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Fred Jewett's avatar

Quick thinking on your feet is extremely valuable in fighting the deep state. They are like vipers looking for a weakness and then striking. Knowing this and being able to strike back quickly is a definite asset.

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The Great Resist's avatar

I am leaning toward Dr. Tenpenny’s take on it (and Dr. Bowden’s), as detailed in the link below. When you’re that close to the finish line, after all the years and money invested, you suck it up and finish, and then you can be a practicing physician who actually helps people. But she quit to pursue a business opportunity that has apparently been very lucrative for her. So I’m not convinced that she’s legitimately on “our”side. It seems quite possible that her food/nutrition/lifestyle focus will be used by TPTB to distract from and explain away the disastrous health consequences of the mRNA quaxxines.

https://open.substack.com/pub/drtenpenny/p/the-elephant-in-the-room?

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Cheryl's avatar

You did see him on interview where he couldn’t say the mRNA jab should be pulled until further studies or because it’s more harmful than helpful.

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Mary Lou Tringali, PhD's avatar

Thank you for that great reply clarifying the uninformed poster above. Congrats to Dr Means and all the functional drs and practitioners who apply their knowledge to the root cause of illness rather than taking the easy way out with prescribing big pharma drugs treating only the symptoms!

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J Guti's avatar

What part was uninformed? Everything that I stated was a factual statement. Wake up people, the globalists aren’t here to help.

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J Guti's avatar

You referred to her as Dr. Means, what exact medical license does she have?

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Paula's avatar

She is an MD/EENT surgeon

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Paula's avatar

She finished medical school and has an MD from Stanford

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J Guti's avatar

I agree it’s possible but why take that chance. We have plenty of qualified people without shady ties that were passed over. She hasn’t spoken out against the shots & we have plenty of better options… it’s time for all to demand real change and stop making excuses for poor choices.

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Caren Starlin, LPN's avatar

Well, I remember in the interview with Tucker in the very beginning she talked about how pharmaceuticals are introduced to humans within the first hour of being born and why is that? Her stance was that the vaccine schedule is not benefiting the gut microbiome which affects the overall health of humans!!

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nonwo's avatar

🎯

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Steve's avatar

Whom specifically would you prefer in that position?

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Health Lyceum's avatar

Lapado.

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Metta Zetty's avatar

100% ~ Ladapo was the obvious choice.

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Christina Kasten's avatar

Her father, Grady Means, also wrote a CHILDREN’S BOOK on transgenderism & sexuality. It’s a picture book! Why has she not spoken out against this? Look it up! The Adventures of Felix the Flamingo.

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Vic Hughes's avatar

It isn't a question of whether someone is still serving their interests. It is why did they not know who those people were in the first place? The Bushes of funding Nazi's, CIA drug operations (Whitney Webb - One Nation under Blackmail), and the 9/11 coverup fame. Nelson Rockefeller's list is too long but if anyone thinks the Rockefellers are doing their plan for a One World Government (see his quote) is good for America, what do you believe is bad for Americans? When you lie down with pigs, they will call you a swine every time. Sorry if that hurts, but just because somebody is friends or family it doesn't mean they are innocent.

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jacob silverman's avatar

What a stupid remark, because NONE OF US KNEW!

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Vic Hughes's avatar

I am not sure what you mean by “none of us knew”. Grandaddy Prescott Bush got charged with trading with the Nazi enemies in 1942, during WW2. A matter of public record. Flecther Prouty was talking about CIA Vietnamese drug running operations going back to the early 1960’s, something CIA head George the First would have known. Also CIA involvement in Contra drug running was known in the 1980’s. BUSH the Seconds attempt to cover up 911 was known from the time of the event. WRT to the Rockefellers and their desire for increased global government goes back to their donating land for the UN in the 1940’s. They were not shy in the least about their OWG proclivities. So when you say no one knew, you meant you didn’t know. You should be careful about name calling. My mother taught me at an early age, when someone starts calling you names, that means they have lost the argument.

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jacob silverman's avatar

this comment is representative of the EXACT mentality we call “conspiracy theorist,” and I mean in a negative way. Take the first “Example.” Yes, I believe “Grandaddy” (never call people names, eh?) anyhow, Grandaddy Prescot Bush (don’t you need two “d”s twice though?) did get caught trading with the Nazis. Lots of other companies did as well. All the is known, yes. What does NOT follow is the sensationalism. People know it and they live with it and that is the real world we live in. No really specific charges were ever made, however. So, the “conspiracy theorist” takes a basic FACT and embellishes and brings out things that are not there. So it turns out that to understand what I meant by “none of us knew” is a matter of actually thinking it through. But this sort of person here is a crazy person and they don’t do that.

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Vic Hughes's avatar

Amazing how you can pivot from saying ‘NONE OF US KNEW” to “All the (trading with the Nazis) is known, yes.” Thank you for admitting I was right when I proved the latter. WRT to lots of companies got caught trading with the Nazi enemy, how many individuals got caught doing that and had their son and grandson as Presidents of the USA? Again thanks for proving me right. Everything else you wrote is irrelevant. And that’s no theory, conspiracy or otherwise.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

Is there anything to the report that RFK had contacted Dr Kelly Victory and notified her she had been picked for nomination for the CDC and then she was dropped without explanation, then Casey was nominated?

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nonwo's avatar

There is the answer. Threats, blackmail or whatever. I like RFK jr. He has always been consistent

until acquiring his position.

I was surprised how easily he got in. TPTB knew that he is controllable and let him in.

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SteelJ's avatar

You know, that's a thought-provoking point. Kinda like the question "why didn't they cheat enough to win in 2024?" They never get prosecuted, they can cheat blatantly, win, and anyone who challenges them is the problem. When they let someone in they don't have to let in, why?

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nonwo's avatar

Great question, “why”.

Think of the main benefits. To appease an angry majority and lull them into thinking something will be done. That Trump got his picks in.

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Health Lyceum's avatar

Very likely.

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annademo's avatar

I've listened to both long form interviews (Tucker and Rogan) and I'm willing to give her a chance. She's not wrong about the food issue and what we eat is clearly affecting us - and not for the better.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

It's not like any of us writing here on Focal Points are in control of this personnel choice. Those who have seen enough flags to not support her nomination will be giving her a chance whether they want to or not. Those who support her nomination and don't find the flags to be disturbing will be giving her a chance. That train has left the station.

What nobody reading Focal Points should be doing is trusting ANY nominee or politician or "expert" fully. And what everybody reading Focal Points should be doing is Questioning Everything, as Rene Descartes famously said.

We're in this society teetering on the brink of totalitarianism predicament because we trusted our "team" too much and didn't question what our "team" did. Sure, we had our guard up to not trust the other "team" and to question the other "team." But we let our guard down when our "team" was in power. And were lulled into believing that "bipartisan" public policies were inherently good, better than divisive one.

Our team mentality has been the unguarded pathway to the brink of societal collapse of freedom. And calls to "unity" have led to some of the worst public policy decisions we now live with the consequences of.

So the chance that Casey Means has is to produce public policy reforms that stand up to independent investigation and research, critical thought by all of us here on Focal Points, and society-wide for that matter. If she does then she will get the credit and respect that earns. If she doesn't she will get the criticism and disrespect that earns. As long as we question everything she does, refuse to blindly "trust" her because she's now on our "team" we will be doing our part as an educated populace to protect the cause of liberty and freedom the nation's founders envisioned.

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Health Lyceum's avatar

It has not been proven that she is on "our" team.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The assumption - ass out of you and me - many make is with Trump and RFK's blessing they are on the same team. Therein is the problem, most make that assumption. That problem is what has brought us to the precipice upon which we stand. The only solution to the problem is not making those assumptions. All must stand or fall by their actions, not words or uniform color.

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SteelJ's avatar

Birx and Fauci were Trump's team. They were up there with his blessing, not those who signed the GBT. So - good point. I like Trump but he sure missed badly in 2020.

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annademo's avatar

Sure, but Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, one of the three authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, is now the head of NIH. President Trump has learned his lessons well. If he has endorsed Dr. Means at this point, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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nonwo's avatar

Her and her brother has not said one word about Covid and the MRNA vaxes. That is very troubling.

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annademo's avatar

Not to me. MAHA is much bigger than just that and the Surgeon General's responsibilities are broader than that.

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Leslie M's avatar

Banning dyes in Froot Loops takes precedence over getting the Covid jab off the children’s vaccine schedule?

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annademo's avatar

You do understand that she has to be approved by the US Senate before she can become Surgeon General? Until she's Surgeon General, she has to advocate for a topic that has universal support, not one that is divisive. Getting the crap out of kids' foods is one such topic. Maybe you should cut her some slack?

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nonwo's avatar

We will see.

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Timothy Burchett's avatar

I'm thinking distraction from injections but your point is actually more concerning

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DawnieR's avatar

BINGO!

ALL individuals, like this, need to be TRIED, CONVICTED and then HUNG!

HUMANITY is DONE 'playing games'!

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J Guti's avatar

It’s not even worth the risk with so many shady ties. There are many qualified human beings that were passed over.

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Vanessa's avatar

Such as?...

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Health Lyceum's avatar

Lapado.

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nonwo's avatar

Definitely Lapado.

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J Guti's avatar

For starters, someone with no ties to intelligence or globalists. She doesn’t even have a medical license, isn’t that kind of important?

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Vanessa's avatar

I'm not a big fan of hers. I am a registered dietitian and understand her experiences in mainstream healthcare and fighting that fight. I agree nutrition plays a significant role in all disease processes and recovery. I'm glad she is stating this loudly and clearly, but I feel like she may not have enough experience and would like to know what other candidates you had inmind.

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nonwo's avatar

Where is her mention of Covid and the vaxes? Her brother is also mum.

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SteelJ's avatar

No it's not. But there are plenty of other red flags. Other than the no medical license, I agree with you.

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Matthew Gardner's avatar

Rockefeller and eugenics was, is , and will be an extraordinarily powerful idea you know

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Paula's avatar

My brother is a staunch Democrat; I am a very red Republican; family ties don’t determine your beliefs, views, or opinions

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Bobby's avatar

Guilt by family association? Really? Not very fair. Do you not have any relatives who have ever committed a crime or gone to prison or done drugs or whatever? Does that make you a

criminal or drug addict? Everyone is responsible for themselves, not their parents or uncles or brothers or sisters or whoever.

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jacob silverman's avatar

The "Daughters of the American Revolution" have a very selective membership. Maybe safe to get our future leaders there. If they weren't on these shores in 1776 they should leave immediately!

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franco nocentini's avatar

yes, the lack of criticism seems really heavy.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I won't trust Casey Means until she publicly objects to the dangerous and ineffective mRNA jabs.

So far, I haven't heard her say anything about the worst crime against humanity ever. That eerie silence does not inspire confidence.

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nonwo's avatar

🎯

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SteelJ's avatar

It's easy to suspect she has a job to do - misdirect, look here, not there.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, I think that's exactly it. And what MAHA is all about.

Distract from the mRNA jab deaths.

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David 1260's avatar

You'll find a few relevant posts here: https://substack.com/@drcaseyskitchen/notes

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Thanks, this is something:

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Casey Means

3d

YouTube removed this video. The real money is not in the vaccines. It’s in the remedies being sold for the injuries from the vaccines.

""

Still, I want to hear her tell the truth about the mRNA jabs.

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DawnieR's avatar

Sorry, but, we do NOT have the luxury of a 'WAIT AND SEE'!

We are OUT OF TIME!

The clock is at 2 minutes to Midnight......ticking down to the Human Races' DEMISE.

We DESERVE a 'NO BULLSHIT' individual(s) that knows what is going on, and IS HELL-BENT ON STOPPING IT!

We have been 'WAIT & SEE' for DECADES now.

NO MORE!!!

LONG PAST time to START DOING!

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Steve's avatar

Whom specifically would you prefer?

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Health Lyceum's avatar

Lapado.

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nonwo's avatar

🎯

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Sweet Mama's avatar

There's some talk that his previous pick intended to go after the toxic covid jabs, and Trump doesn't want that.....

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jacob silverman's avatar

Going after the toxic covid jabs sounds to me like the first place to start! Crux of the whole matter.

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Steve's avatar

She called them "a gift from God".

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Steve's avatar

Respectfully, source?

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nonwo's avatar

That makes sense

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The Green Hornet's avatar

Grady's kids.

Her and her oily BigPharma brother are controlled opposition.

She's an astroturf airhead.

She, Calley, Oz, Markary were parachuted into MAHA by BigPharma lobbyist Susie Wiles to kneecap the movement.

These are bad people.

You really need to wake up.

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Ileana's avatar

Sadly, people are still delusional and drunk on hopium till it's too late.

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mimi's avatar

What's wrong with Makary?

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working rich's avatar

Makary wrote a book years ago about responsibility in surgery. Book had huge typographical errors confounding Diastasis recti and diathesis. Stuff such as that does not flush.

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The Green Hornet's avatar

Look up his comments during the planDemic on jabs and masks

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EddMM1136's avatar

I am thinking they should have picked better and then we would not have to give them a chance…

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Linda's avatar

When I heard that President Trump nominated Casey Means for Surgeon General, I was and still am excited. I am excited because last August, I watched the Tucker Carlson interview of Casey and Calley Means. I was so impressed with both of them because of their knowledge of the issue of food, pharma and nutrition and how it's been almost completely adulterated through the years resulting in a sharp increase in disease in the U.S. Of course, there are other things that are contributing to this but food and pharma are a couple of the main ingredients. It's the first time I've heard such an in-depth discussion in the media of why the population of the U.S. is so sick. I head both Casey and Calley Means present information that I've been hoping would finally come out at some point in time. I bought Casey Means' book, "Good Energy, the Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health". I have so many books about food and health and Means' book is a great compilation of the information that seemed to have gotten relegated to "hippies" and "foodies". I understand people's hesitation but I agree with John Leake on this one, give this woman a chance!!

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nonwo's avatar

Did they mention the jab?

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Health Lyceum's avatar

Perhaps Casey Means brings nothing to the table but Marching Orders as well as an interesting pedigree. To activists who have been paying attention to all of these areas of interest over the last decades, the Means have come up out of nowhere, at a critical time, carrying messages many endorse.

Right on script.

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Scrub-Texas's avatar

Agree. Creepy, well rehearsed grifters talented enough for Hollywood but lacking the looks. When pinned down by Dr Mary Bowden and Dr. Jack Kruse, Callie would only agree to choice, not science, not VAERS, not stats AND not pulling this bioweapon vax-think sis agrees? Hard no for this embarrassment taking the pulpit.

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Metta Zetty's avatar

For those interested in the rest of the story from Bowden and Kruse, you can learn more here:

> Short Version: https://lindelltv.com/dr-jack-kruse-reveals-stunning-research-on-casey-and-calley-means/

> Full Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjj2EoElFg

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nonwo's avatar

Perfect!! Very informative!!

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Scott MacInnis's avatar

Like we have a choice

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nonwo's avatar

🎯

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Livingdownunder's avatar

I like most have watched Calley Means on Rogan & Tucker and I “thought” he was very impressive-until I watched his discussion with Dr Jack Kruse-retired Neurosurgeon on the Danny Jones Podcast(episode #277) it completely changed my opinion & forced me to really question “if” he’s truly shed his prior Lobbiest clothing or if he’s a “wolf in sheeps clothing”? I don’t know much about his sister-but I believe there are more qualified candidates for Surgeon General of the United States than a young woman who never finished? What does that say: Guess what kids-you can drop out of medical school & STILL become the top medical representative within the US Government-REALLY BAD OPTICS in my opinion-she can’t practice as a MD….would I want someone with those “credentials” performing surgery on me or offering me serious medical advice-thank you-but……no thank you-Peter McCullough she is not

I accept this may be a very unpopular opinion-but I think her & her brothers sudden rise in popularity & power/political influence from relevant obscurity gives me much pause & her brothers reactions on that podcast have made me VERY apprehensive as to their “true” motivations.

Learn about “SV40” & the “safe & effective” covid-19 vaccines & Calley Means stance should at the very least make one 🤔after you listen/watch that interaction. He said all the right things about big ag, but didn’t with the mRNA 💉 & SV40. I was fired for refusing to get the 💉 as a RN & for me anyone who tries to justify it’s existence still after everything we know about it is just plain criminal & I don’t support anyone who thinks it should still be offered. I used to save lives not hurt, destroy or take them. Just like when the 💉 was touted as a miracle “Silver Bullet” to save is…the hair on the back of my neck stood up & I knew “something” was wrong/off & for me as good & as “polished” as these two are at the delivery of their anti-Big Ag message-which is fair enough-it falls way short on Big Pharma & that I find deeply disturbing. It seems like a distraction away from Big Pharma & the mRNA 💉 when they(my opinion) should be resolute in completely re-structuring BOTH.

?Thoughts?

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SteelJ's avatar

I think you are wrong that you have an unpopular opinion.

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Judy's avatar

💯

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reality speaks's avatar

My concern is that she doesn’t have the necessary life experience to deal with the pit vipers of the DCSwamp. They will neutralize her within a month if she is ever confirmed

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Curious and Concerned's avatar

John you seem to have pushed some people's buttons, but I'm disappointed in the logic and wisdom (lack thereof) of their arguments. It's cancel culture without looking at the real person wearing that skin. I admire the people who have turned to the Rogan interview. I say, do your homework, listen to the extended chat, add water, stir, think, then come back to the conversation.

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nonwo's avatar

It’s all about the jab. Avoidance of the words “Covid” and “vaccine” categorize them as controlled opposition.

No doubt about it.

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Curious and Concerned's avatar

I'm glad you know things with absolute certainty...I rarely see that in the world. Everyone who is awake wants to see immediate action on this. I would like to as well. These jabs never should have been deployed. However, when going up against a fabulously wealthy and well-armed Pharma superpower, with many of the media in their pockets, the effort and timing need to be just right. There needs to be clear leadership and support. Department Heads are still just being confirmed, including ones relevant to The Cause. Just b/c the Surgeon General COULD be that leader doesn't mean they should, nor that this is the right time.

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nonwo's avatar

I see the elephant in the room.

I remember when Trump won in 2016. Henry Kissinger was then interviewed by Forbes.

The interviewer asked Kissinger if he was afraid of a Trump presidency. Kissinger answered something like this

“To the contrary. “WE” know his psychology and he can be easily manipulated to act in “OUR” benefit.

This cynical reasoning turned out to be true.

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Curious and Concerned's avatar

The Cabal has a tried and true playbook which most (asleep) Americans still cannot resist. The Cabbason probably, like a grand chess master, already have their next ten moves mapped out. I think it's good for people to be exposed to a new line of thought, exercise a little used zone of the cranium, even if they do react as programmed.

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Metta Zetty's avatar

Here's a good place to start on "doing your homework":

> https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/give-casey-means-a-chance/comment/116011561

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Deborah Potts's avatar

Praying to trees was a breaking point for me. Just what I read. Followed her substack briefly but stopped after a couple times because it was new ageist.

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ShockwaveRider's avatar

Outed well and truly by Dr Jack Kruse. What a sell-out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjj2EoElFg&ab_channel=DannyJones

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SteelJ's avatar

I see nothing here to allay misgivings about the choice of Casey. To eat well, eat real food, mostly locally sourced. Simple, don't need help there. Sure it's a good idea to improve the standard American diet, but it's easily dealt with by personal choices. We just lived through the COVID insanity. Which wasn't foisted upon us by the food industry, but affected us all greatly, and impoverished the country. It's the pharmaceutical and medical cartel which holds us hostage. I agree with her stances, but the problem is her targets are 2nd priority and reek of misdirection. Which is a tried and true technique - look here, not there. Nothing in this article addresses how the siblings came out of nowhere, foisted upon us on high-profile media, when plenty of people with better chops, who stood up to the establishment and paid for it lack such visibility. Why? Seems strange and artificial. The Means siblings prospered during the COVID years. I like picks like Bhatacharya, RFK Jr., Tulsi, and Patel who stood up, got cancelled, and have an ax to grind. These two have led charmed lives. Calley's history seems alarmingly sketchy. Debbie Lerman did the work for us here https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/cia-central-casting-the-means-episode and in her followup.

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Matthew Gardner's avatar

What experience does she have in Big Ag or biotechnology for Agriculture. She is not a MD. She is a psyop narrative curator. Deception

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