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Mike Bond's avatar

Well, John, how do you propose to eliminate the Jew hatred that has infected those who live in Gaza and perpetrated the Oct 7 massacre?

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RoseMartyn's avatar

Bibi has got to be one of the worst Jew haters I could ever imagine. What kind of human being would coerce an experimental vaccine on the entire nation the way he did? And for pregnant and nursing mothers? Grotesque. For god’s sake it’s against the Nuremberg Code. What a corrupted pair that bibi an bourla.

But after the Marshal Plan, the United States became close allies with their former bitter foes of Germany and Japan . And it happened rather quickly. So it can be done.

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RoseMartyn's avatar

And I’d like to add, and this is only an opinion on my part because who can really know what is in another man’s heart, but Bibi strikes me as a “jew hater” big time. I look at that career politician and he strikes me that the only jew he likes is himself! It’s war war war he wants to distract the world from his poor leadership . Of course this is just my opinion, and others may disagree. I think he and his awful wife are the worse thing that ever happened to Israel.

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Nava S's avatar

I think that this is kind of cheap gossip quoting Israeli Media.

About the so called Vaccine, I hate it, I think it was a crime, I think that he wanted to bring Pfizer to Israel, he wanted to have them open a facility there, bring jobs. I cannot believe that he knew how bad it was going to be.

And just like Trump, they are surrounded by people that are connected and benefit from Pharma and form Water.

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CB's avatar

Some more cheap gossip from 40 former top Israeli officials who were saying even in 2024 that Bibi had to go:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/26/middleeast/netanyahu-letter-israel-national-security-intl/index.html

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Daniel's avatar

Trump and Netanyahu need to face war crimes trials and be punished like the Nazis after WWII. They are committing a genocide in Gaza where they have systematically murdered perhaps 600,000 innocent civilians. Mostly women and children. They are brutal psychopaths who need to be put away.

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Nava S's avatar

I think you need to remember what he saw. What many Israelis saw.

The clips came in. It was like 9/11—only worse. Women raped. Breasts cut. Heads chopped off.

A baby cut from a pregnant woman’s body. A man’s head severed with a shovel. An eye pierced with a gun.

The two ginger babies, the Bibas, with their mother. The fear on her face still haunts me.

Then the texts started. Family. Two second cousins at the Nova Festival—injured. Their friends kidnapped.

One came back on Monday, in the last release of hostages. His name was Ochana.

Another young second cousin—his best friend kidnapped. Her name was Eden Yerushlami. A beautiful girl. Held for months. Just to be murdered by Hamas with seven other hostages.

People talked about leveling Gaza. Writing these lines makes me want to scream. I couldn’t sleep. Could not function for months. Traumatized.

Haliva saw it with his own eyes. Not clips. Not videos. His own eyes. He smelled death. Saw the bodies. And also knew he failed.

Do you remember 9/11? I do. We bombed the countries we thought hid Bin Laden.

October 7th in America? 41,000 dead in one day. About 8,500 kidnapped. No president—even Obama—would let that slide. Mexico? Flattened in days.

Haliva failed, yes. His assessment was dead wrong. But he spoke from raw pain. Just as anyone would if it happened to their country.

Facts matter. Israel did not kill indiscriminately. Did not carpet-bomb. Did not target children. Did not do what America, England, or Canada did in war.

The IDF warned people. Leaflets. Calls. Texts. We don’t put people on trial for what they said in pain. Only for what they did.

Israel fights savages. People who enter homes. Torture children in front of their parents. Tie them up. Burn them alive. Civilians joined—looting, raping, burning. They don’t deserve a text message.

Go on Telegram. Watch what Hamas posted. Images replaying in my mind for weeks.

Haliva saw it with his own eyes. Not clips. Not videos. His own eyes.

I’m sure the Americans who arrived at the concentration camps said things worse than Haliva.

I'm sure that our own military officials arriving to the 9/11 sites said worse things.

No one was there to record them. No one to smear their name.

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albert venezio's avatar

You are going by Zionist Propaganda not the facts!

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Rebecca Lee (maybeitsmercury)'s avatar

Oh come on!

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Toddy's avatar

Makes me feel sick. So much rabid hatred that rises up in the heart of man against man. If man goes on in life without God , and not regarding His laws, and commandments, and His Son, then he becomes quite sick and despicable. If we are not judging ourselves and how bad we could be without Gods morals laws and rights over us, we could become utterly cruel, depraved and lawless. So many innocent persons suffer because of cruel and wicked leaders and commanders. Prayers for Godly and righteous leaders, both here and abroad. In Israel, the middle east, and many countries in uproar.

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David 1260's avatar

I wonder if General Haliva meant to subtract the lives of Israelis who were killed by the IDF from the calculation of the total Palestinians he wanted dead. That was roughly half the total, AFAIK.

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albert venezio's avatar

Thank you for this interesting story and Exposure John!

What most everyone misses in the comments, in the Media, in government is the real core problem: Zionist Supremacy, similar to Nazi Supremacy which the Nazi's borrowed some (not all) from Zionist Supremacy. Read the Torah and Talmud and this Psychotic Racist Murderous Indoctrination from virtually birth demonstrates this Horrific Mindset! Just listen to Netanyahu and his Ministers and Generals (as You noted here) Biblical or Talmudic proclamations - This is the Problem! Christian Zionists are as bad and usually very ignorant!

The Irish, Italians, Polish, Filipinos etc. don't have a Supremacist Mentality which they can do whatever they want to other people including Murder, Theft and Rape!

Our the Palestinians blameless? Of course not but they are THE OCCUPIED BY THE ZIONIST OCCUPIERS AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT BACK BY ALMOST ANY MEANS! THINK OF THE WARSAW GHETTO IN WWII!

Many of the most Courageous critics of the Zionists are Jewish such as: Finkelsten, Mate Father and Son, Pappe, Cohen and so many more.

Zionist Propaganda has been exposed and they have Zero high ground!

Not all Jews are Zionists and Not all Zionists are Jews!

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Actually I can understand and identify with this sentiment from Commander Haliva. And, he is certainly not comparable to the Nazi commander-- their forces were the aggressors, started the war(not considering WW I war reparations).

On the other hand, the Israeli's were attacked, savaged, raped, tortured, children killed. . . for no apparent reason and with no warning. Outright mass murder.

On the other hand if there IS any truth to the conspiracy theory the Israeli military defenses pulled back, allowed the incursion, making this mini-holocaust possible for the Palestinian hoard, it immediately becomes despicable, moreso yet, if HE was aware of the plan.

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CB's avatar

From what I've read and heard, including from people like war correspondent Michael Yon, there's no question there was a stand down; many Israelis believe so too. How else do you explain a seven hour response when an attack helicopter gets there in 25 minutes? Moving the music festival right up to the fence, withdrawing forces? Burning out cars and homes with helicopter gunship weapons Hamas didn't have? Bibi says he'll allow an investigation (i.e., a Warren Report or 9/11 Commission Report) after the forever war ends.

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Jimi's avatar

Haliva absolutely does not represent the majority of Israelis or the government's policy. Hamas in its charter calls for the destruction of the state of Israel which means the killing of every Jew and probably many Arab Moslems in the process. Israel sends food to Gaza. This is like sending food to the Germans during World War II. Would you have supported that?

Israel could have finished the war in a few hours if it wanted to and obliterated all of Gaza which was handed over to them in 2005. Hamas was overwhelmingly elected and has controlled Gaza for almost 2 decades. That was the only election.

There has been no genocide in Gaza. See this link.

https://aish.com/israel-is-not-committing-genocide-in-gaza-bullet-point-explanation/

The Palestinians have rejected every peace plan starting from 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Clinton and Israel offered Arafat 94% of the West Bank with 4% of Israel with East Jerusalem as its capitol. Arafat rejected the plan culminating in the second intifada which killed hundreds of Israelis in terror attacks. Former President Bill Clinton talks about it starting at 5:35 of this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIcH4x0Xbe4

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee has said that in order to protect Gazans, Israel will sacrifice their own soldiers, many who have been killed.

Here he is talking about Israel and Gaza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufi2ypuVEFk

I don't think the USA should give any money to Israel. I am an American Jew born and raised in the USA, who holds dual citizenship with Israel. My best friends in this life of 76 years are all Christians who I met at Columbia University in the fall of 1967. Two of whom are sadly deceased. There are wonderful people of all faiths as well as despicable ones.

Israel is not an apartheid state. Arab Moslems attend universities, work in Israeli hospitals, and are represented in Israel's governing body the Knesset. You can read this.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/arab-leader-israel-conversation-mansour-abbas

I don't think Israel has a very good chance of survival. I wanted to move with our family who are all dual citizens to the USA over 25 years ago, but because our daughter had cancer as a child, I was afraid she would be denied health insurance coverage with a preexisting condition. When she was being treated for cancer, a Palestinian teenager was in the same room with her. Israel paid for that girl's treatment which probably cost a million dollars.

The life of Yahya Sinwar the Hamas leader who planned the October 7 attacks was saved by Israel. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/20/middleeast/israeli-dentist-hamas-yahya-sinwar-intl

I don't know what you think of this country. Maybe you think Israel has no right to exist, or we should all die for the killing of Jesus. I have read numerous passages in what is called the Old Testament, King James version, that have been heavily distorted from the original Hebrew.

Tovia Singer gives a very detailed analysis in his two volume set Let's Get Biblical which I suggest you read.

https://www.amazon.com/Lets-Get-Biblical-Judaism-Christian/dp/0996091300

I could write a lot more, but this is enough for now.

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albert venezio's avatar

Zionist Propaganda!

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Corrin Strong's avatar

I don’t know about the subject you’re addressing, but they certainly have forgotten all about the Nuremberg principles against medical experimentation without informed consent!

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Raphael Stricker, MD's avatar

Military personnel are paid to fight. They are not paid to think, and sometimes they say stupid things. If you want to blame somebody for the mess in the Middle East, I vote for Jimmy Carter. The PLO was ready to overthrow King Hussein of Jordan and establish a Palestinian state in a country that was already two-thirds Palestinian. Carter bailed him out....and here we are.

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Taming the Wolf Institute's avatar

Saul Bellow. Wow. I was aware of his presence during the short period I spend at U of Chicago and lived in Hyde Park. I concur with his assessment: "Bellow found Chicago vulgar but vital" WIKI Unlike you, I stayed away, feeling he was deep into the world I hoped to escape.

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