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Barbara Charis's avatar

Charlie Kirk is not gone..His spirit resides in millions of young people who listened to him and got his message.. He ignited the truth...and once that candle was lit, it will not go out!

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Unless you subscribe to this possibility.🤷‍♀️

https://rumble.com/v6zlla4-kirk-psyop-hologram.html

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irish's avatar

Roflmao!so his message was hate women and blacks. He made a fortune off of scamming people .you hear what you want to hear especially when it aligns with your own. Twisted perspective.

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James S.M. Kitchen's avatar

John, I deeply appreciate your insights and wisdom. I encourage you to keep going on the Charlie Kirk issue. I think you are right. I think continuing to muse on who may be behind his assassination is worth your valuable time and effort.

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Michael G. Fons's avatar

It seems that Israeli intelligence is the head of the deep state in many respects

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Nainamarbus!!!'s avatar

Oh c’mon. Don’t be lazy and do better. Act and speak responsibly and not emotionally.

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Michael G. Fons's avatar

My understanding that US intelligence agencies are generally considered part of the deep state, and that they work hand and glove with Israeli intelligence agencies. But considering the apparent blackmail that Israel has on US politicians as it relates to Epstein, along with Israel's ability to assassinate people around the world with impunity, and Israel being the country who is the #1 top recipient of US military aid/weapons.... I think it's plausible that Israeli intelligence are calling the shots on a lot of "deep state" issues.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

And you're likely correct. Ignore the naysayers, who've done no research, and project unto others that others are being "lazy and to do better"... which is advice they should be taking, not giving. Don't even bother explaining your logical, plausible perspective to an NPC who's firmly entrenched in the matrix and convoluted denial of reality.

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Lori's avatar

I agree. Mossad is on my rule out listen behind CK's assassination amongst others. Israel is no innocent.

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letterwriter's avatar

Read Alison Weir's 'Against Our Better Judgment'. In fact I'll link it here but if you like it please consider getting a physical copy (also paper is forever). https://archive.org/details/weir-alison-against-our-better-judgment-the-hidden-history-of-how-the-u.-s.-was-_202404/mode/2up

One of the many items of Zionist corruption of our government which she describes is how the supporters of that foreign country, already employed, would eject colleagues who bucked the narrative. I believe she says that at one point every member of a foreign affairs department was a Zionist.

Given that Israel and Zionists have shown themselves many times over to be willing to harm us to obtain their aims, I think that she's describing many acts of treason by many individuals along the way. Brandeis, others.

Today, the one skill I could say they have that's truly their own, not borrowed (even central banking seems to have been someone else's invention), is terrorism. Or maybe just ragefully harming people.

In that vein, Betar is a good candidate for this recent execution, if it wasn't Mossad proper. The threads run from that fascist youth terror org in the 1920s-30s through Lehi and the other terror gangs to Mossad but also Gush Emunim and Kahanism, which is Ben-Gvir's alma mater. Betar "revived" itself in the wake of Oct 7, but it is acting like a well established terror group here in the USA, "reporting" people it doesn't like to our government, and generally being threatening. I believe they were the ones thrusting gold pagers at people.

Repeatedly through history, Zionists allow dirtywork groups to spring up and act "independently". That was Lehi's role in the 40s. One could say that was Betar's role in the decades before they grew up into adult terrorists, as the Jewish mindset, in a way that seems psychologically "one" in the manner of a collective hive culture, takes full advantage of denial plausibility, by splitting. One could even say that from the Jewish Agency's perspective, that was the Nazis' role, once the Havaara Agreement was in place.

Betar and Lehi were cleaved from the murmuring, denying, shuffling center. These days the Zionist-Israeli culture seems more out and proud about their violence, but Zionist-Americans likely are not quite as out. Although, a pack of them did surround and gang on Kirk a couple weeks ago, and apparently he felt threatened. Anyway, I thought I'd mention Betar.

When Lehi and Irgun decided to massacre Deir Yassin, in 1948, they didn't have "permission" from the Haganah, the Jewish Agency, or anyone else in leadership. They defied instructions not to violate the treaty with that village; they wanted to attack it. So everyone shrugged and allowed it to happen. A Haganah officer trailed along to observe as he knew they would be incorporating Lehi and Irgun into the "state" military eventually. He made the best of it, in other words. And when the baseline ethos loves slaughter and the only questions are pragmatic, there's always a bright side, right?

'Remembering Deir Yassin' is also in the archive dot org library, here https://archive.org/details/rememberingdeiry0000unse/mode/1up and I really recommend it. That's where I got that oral history from.

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Lori's avatar

Very informative, thank you.

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Concerned in Midwest's avatar

all signs point to exactly what he said...their government, not their people. you are the emotional one if you cannot separate the two...

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Lori's avatar

some of their people are fanatic Zionists and nothing good comes from that.

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Concerned in Midwest's avatar

some or our people (half) are insane fanatics (antifa and their supporters)...welcome to 2025.

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dmickg's avatar

Charlie was a threat to an ideology and a narrative. But most of the open haters have probably never heard Charlie speak or engage in debate with the young! They are products of the propaganda from the Leftist echo chamber.

Those forces that control the Leftist propaganda know that Charlie brings truth respect and kindness. They know that he is hugely effective. Especially in the one place they cannot tolerate…..their indoctrination centers. Schools, colleges and universities.

So, they groom the vulnerable, immature, ignorant youth to hate and yes, to kill.

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irish's avatar

You adoring kirk believers are in active denial of reality. He espoused hatred and dressed it up with a coat of Christianity to duck out rational thought.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

So, just spit-ballin' here John. . .

What is the probability that the Reddit group this trans-wierd gay-boy follows has been setup by the CIA or FBI in joint communication with Antifa(Transtifa, whatever?). He was targeted and spoon fed, specially nurtured gas-light perversion and they. . . THEY. . . knew exactly what he was doing and purposely facilitated the entire thing. It may not be quite so random / chaosey as we all have been led to believe-- ie incite the masses and hey, one of them, will hit the jackpot and we don't care WHO they hit.

I believe this really could have been orchestrated by a team of maestros.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

The probability is around 100%, given that's exactly how they set up & run these ops, and have been doing so since the 1940's ... across the globe.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Yeah, not so sure as you are. . . "that's EXACTLY how. . ."

Will wait to see hard evidence and eye witness etc.

There is always folks who push how they KNOW exactly . . . whatever.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Gladio 0ps (and FFs) have plenty of hard evidence (and have since post WWII C_A rogue activities); but it takes decades for them to be figured out. But once you understand the M O, it's easy to put together who's behind it and how "it" was done. Perhaps you should take some time to look into Col Towers with Alpha Warrior's Operation Gladio series, 70 or so episodes, pick any several to listen to (available on Rumble), to glean some insight instead of being steeped in naivete. Regardless of your interest (or lack thereof) in understanding how these things work, you may want to consider the factual evidence you DO have -- nothing, NOTHING, the g0vt has told you or done is the truth... ever. So don't expect that to be the case in this instance, either. 🤷‍♀️

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Paul's avatar

I've wondered for a while why the left (and DS) would back the trans movement, definitely leaving out the possibility that it was to altruistically support a minority. My answer has come up as (at least) a roundabout way to have a ready supply of shooters to be used for their purposes. I generally had their endless push against the 2nd Amendment in mind which I wouldn't discard but obviously could be used well beyond that. But there could also be a much more direct connection between the higher ups and the patsies. Read that just a month ago Charlie was invited to a meeting that ended up being like an intervention into his semi anti-Israel talk.

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Lori's avatar

he was involved in very kinky gay perversions and addicted to a site called Furry Shades of Gay. Furry Shades of Gay is a game about love, queer relationships, hot gay sex and slapstick humor.

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LazaroT223's avatar

Kirk could have succeeded in any field.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

He was future Presidential material! They had to get rid of him…his impact is huge!

Look at all the nations marching in honor of his memory! Britton over a million people filled the streets…Australia massive marches…Germany…Poland…Spain…Japan…So. Korea!

All honoring Charlie! He’s left an indelible mark! The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church! Charlie isn’t going away….Heaven is the better for Charlie…earth is now at a great loss!

But there are those who will rise up to fill his shoes!

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irish's avatar

Lol future potus material my ass. You brainwashed are truly sickening.

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irish's avatar

Roflma as a Satanist yes

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Too young for 2028, but Kirk could have been elected President in 2032, only 7 years away....

And, technically, IF he COULD have been 35 on 01/20/2029....????....

Both Butler, PA, & here, there was a serious LACK of both "sniper overwatch security", and "counter-sniper security".... The absence is telling, but I'm not sure WHAT it's telling. What I DO know is, I AM CHARLIE KIRK now. His spirit lives in my heart & mind.....

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

And like you….this has only embolden me…to stand up even more for my Lord and Savior! “Oh death where is your sting…oh grave where is your victory! But thanks be unto God….who gives us the victory….through our Lord Jesus Christ!” 1 Cor 15:55.

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irish's avatar

and you must agree that your "lord and savior" also was a misogynist racist. correct. lol

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Concerned in Midwest's avatar

oh my...calm down NPC. he was neither of those things... he probably hurt your tiny feelings because somehow/some way you think debauchery is ok in a functional society. bleeding hearts hated him and made up lies about him. perhaps look in the mirror, you will find the answers, you are living with the attitude of those who celebrated the Weimer Republic. CK was seeing what many of us see and few are afraid to say... He was right about almost everything.

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Lori's avatar

Idiot much?

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Bill Bradford's avatar

I'm not very religious myself, but I will "preserve, protect, and defend" YOUR right to speak freely about your religious beliefs.... Preach, sister, preach! God bless you!

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irish's avatar

seems you bought into the fairytale and suspended all logic.

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Lori's avatar

seems you need an extra large high colonic.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Funny how things "seem" to be, when one proves oneself to be an idiosyncratically endarkened narcissist such as yourself, irish. May God bless you, my friend, and may Santa Claus bring you many gifts this Christmas....

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irish's avatar

You remain retarded.

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Lori's avatar

you invented retarded.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Works for me, irish! Do you remain an jerk"?....

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irish's avatar

You specialize in being a moron I see

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Lame. That the best you got?..... But thank-you for proving my point about the dumbing-down of U.S. public education....

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Lori's avatar

you got a doctorate in moron.

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irish's avatar

Funny how so many such as you live in denial of reality preferring your programming to actual thinking. Your type is shrouded in blinders

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Lori's avatar

late for you next covid jab I see.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Thank-you, irish, you gave me one of the best belly laughs I've had in DAYS!

"My TYPE"? ROTFLMFAO! "Shrouded in blinders"? No, "enveloped in visors", LOL! I'm too retarded to be "programmed", LOL!, LOL!, LOL!....

May peace be with you, my brother....or sister. Or whatever. LOL!, LOL!,LOL!...

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Proberta's avatar

Is Charlie Kirk really dead?

I don't know. So I have not formed an opinion. But I do know that the blood in the squib should have been bright red, not burgundy. Ask any nurse.

Is this real? Or is it as fake as the fake AF Trump shooting?

It took at least a week after the fake Trump shooting for online creators to amass enough info, anomalies and facts into videos that showed that it was clearly fake. But by then the masses had moved on to being captivated (captured) by the next scheduled attention-grabbing headlines.

And the only people still following, still pursuing the fraud, were the doubters, and the questioners, and the Conspiracy Theorists.

Is Charlie Kirk really dead?

Was this as fake as the fake AF Trump shooting?

I don't know. Ask me next week.

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Leslie Mooney's avatar

Oh for heaven’s sake. Is he really dead? Is his wife faking her grief? Is he hiding from his little children? Did the VP of the United States waste time and taxpayer dollars on flying an empty casket to AZ? Good lord. The abject stupidity of thinking that Trump’s shooting was faked. So, hundreds, if not thousands of people who witnessed both events are lying? Conspiring? Y’all need another hobby.

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Proberta's avatar

Leslie, there a numerous videos showing how the Trump shooting was fake. Here's an excellent one:

https://old.bitchute.com/video/XyQfYhZO9mLT/

Take the red pill.

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Bernard Tamosaitis's avatar

In my opinion, one needs to keep an open mind and consider all possibilities. The history of false flags and fakes is extensive in the US and they have proven to be a very effective way of shaping public opinion.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

I'm not saying it IS "fake", only that it COULD be fake. But the bigger, personal issue here, is, are YOU experiencing cognitive dissonance over the contradiction? For me, I'm comfortable with BOTH possible realities. That's not an easy place to get to, but it's a much easier place to live. Do you know the details about how, and why America fought the so-called "Spanish-American War" in 1898? That war was based on "fake news", and "false flags". It's a deep rabbit hole. But my bigger concern is YOUR peace of mind....

May you find some peace of mind here. You can be ok despite the media craziness....

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Proberta's avatar

"May you find some peace of mind here"

Me Bill?

I'm fine. I know what's REALLY happening, I'm a Conspiracy Theorist. ;)

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Bill Bradford's avatar

OK, I'll just ask. WTF? is "white-pilled"?....

(....are you SURE you're REALLY a Conspiracy Theorist?....)....

And WHY was I so concerned about your peace of mind? Hmmm....?....

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Proberta's avatar

"Are you SURE you're REALLY a Conspiracy Theorist?"

Born red-pilled, my father was a CT.

"And WHY was I so concerned about your peace of mind?"

Because you are responding from your level of awareness, not mine. ;)

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PrsctNative's avatar

Just wondering- what benefit is there (and to whom) in faking his death?

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Jim Dandy's avatar

Don't feed the troll. It's working for your enemy.

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Paula Wertheim's avatar

To give Americans a (fake) reason to start a civil war. When things get really insane, the government will impose martial law.

That's why.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Or Charlie was too independent in forming his views.

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Paula Wertheim's avatar

@Proberta I'm with you on this.

Why is there no official coroner's report yet?

The funeral is scheduled for Sept 15. Are they keeping his corpse in the freezer for 10 days so his family can make it in time for the funeral?

How could four guys carry Charlie off stage face down by his hands and feet if he was bleeding to death?

The whole thing has FAKE written all over it.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

I hear no information about finding the bullet or even looking for it. Why?

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Paula Wertheim's avatar

Haha. Guess they don't need it.

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Leslie Mooney's avatar

Good grief. Then this guy should get an Oscar for this performance: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1968392383080628238

It’s been a week. Give it a break.

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Paula Wertheim's avatar

I spent a few years doing genealogy studies on white collar crime families who were somehow related to us.

In the course of several wild goose chases, I learned a few things which may apply to Kirk's alleged death:

1. In the US, it's perfectly legal to fake your own death, as long as the family does not try to cash in the departed's life insurance policy.

You read that right.

There is no law preventing anyone from buying a fake death certificate and hiring a dirty coroner to sign off on it. That's not to say that the coroner may lose his license- but that's his problem, not the departed's!

2. Likewise, anyone can buy an empty casket and a bogus burial plot- no questions asked.

3. It is legal to change your name.

4. It may still be possible to get a bogus SS number to go with a bogus birth certificate.

It was done all the time when our grandparents were alive.

5. When a death is high profile or particularly gruesome, people naturally expect the victim(s) NOT to rise from their graves.

Therefore, it is very possible for an individual or an entire FAMILY to "die" in a terrible accident or murder ( like the Manson murders). After a safe period of time (like a year or so) the deceased can simply move to a different location, change his name ( not always necessary) and carry on with his life as usual.

Because the world spent that interim period getting past the trauma of the "death", they cannot imagine that the "dead" person would come back to life!

It's truly mind boggling.

In my own family tree, an entire family of 5 "died" in a tragic plane crash. After about a year, the remnants of the plane were found- but nothing resembling human remains were left inside... minor details!

The extended family bought the victims an impressive tombstone, death certificates, the works. End of story.

Hardly.

Turns out, their deaths were faked from the get go. The father was involved in illegal drug running for the CIA. When his town was about to be busted by local law enforcement, he had to get out of Dodge - fast.

So with a lot of help from his spook friends, the great escape was a huge success. And nobody changed their names or birth dates!

My niece, whose father was a Mafia guy, told her these fake deaths happen all the time in the Mafia. She saw it with her own eyes while growing up.

How many intel agents were "suicided" to avoid prosecution?

Too many.

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Proberta's avatar

And then there's the squib:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PsDAaQyomSRw

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Hilary Butler's avatar

You say, "Today’s generation of twenty and thirty-somethings just lost their greatest hope of maintaining our Constitutional Republic of limited government, and few of them (I suspect) even know it."

Have they? or might this inspire that same group to multiply into THE hope?

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Boris's avatar

Insights from James Li: "Charlie Kirk rejected Netanyahu’s bid to flood TPUSA with Zionist money, warned Trump against bombing Iran, and started calling out Israel’s stranglehold on DC https://x.com/5149jamesli/status/1966650104124977307

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Lori's avatar

Fanatic Zionists need to shut it and check themselves and AIPAC needs to be dissolved as it has way too much influence here.

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DS's avatar

If you think "today’s generation of twenty and thirty-somethings just lost their greatest hope of maintaining our Constitutional Republic of limited government", then you don't know what surrendering your life to Jesus is about, his righteousness imputed to you, a sinner, and I pray you know sooner than later. Hope will rise again, watch and see. Beauty from ashes(Isaiah 61:3).

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

God will raise up more Charlie Kirk’s! The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church! There are millions and millions of people…around the whole world….rising up in honor of Charlie! He just lit a candle that will never go out!

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irish's avatar

Mentally ill you mesn6

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Marilyn Langlois's avatar

Did his critique of every powerful interest group include critique of AIPAC and the Zionist lobby??

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Matrix2008's avatar

yes indeed. There are other videos eapecially in the last few months of him awakening to the lobby and calling them out

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Lori's avatar

both of which have got to go.

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irish's avatar

of course not.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Yes, it did!

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Kay's avatar

I wonder the same thing. He was brilliant and could convey truth in a compelling way. Those trying to destroy this country must have deemed him too dangerous to live.

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irish's avatar

ROFLMAO!"BRILLIANT"? you jest obvious hatred of others is hardly brilliant. he might have been a willing victim .

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Hatred? nonsense.

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Lori's avatar

here again, vomiting more feces. bravo.

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Mabel Parrilla's avatar

Richard, this is the one I think is most believable. It is worth following. He is not the shooter. That rifle was a joke. When I saw it I laughed. I thought Hollywood could have done a better job with a prop rifle. The scope was to far back towards the stock. You'd get a black eye if you tried to fire it. It was bolt action and the scope was situated right over the bolt. Just my opinion. I'm more inclined to follow Webb's theory. Blessings!!

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AG Fairfield's avatar

I just started looking at this guy’s theory today — so I am glad you posted it too so I don’t feel like I am nuts. Is it right to summarize: plot twist! Yes the Israeli “old hands in DC” are pissed but it’s really Mormon war-mongering Rhinos who executed the deed. Tyler is a patsy and the tranny narrative is diversionary rage bait?

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Richard Rosenthal's avatar

George Webb has been pretty accurate for decades. The Ukrainian angle & Mossad makes the most sense to me. CIA & DOD in the mix. For all his errs, Kirk was speaking too many truths for the blob. For the big picture see: https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/interview-with-dr-denis-rancourt?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=355417&post_id=173639815&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=13rnq&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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Daniel's avatar

He started to question the Gaza genocide. We know that Israel assassinates public figures on a regular basis.

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Lori's avatar

they are committing genocide and want all of them deported out of the area or killed off.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Exactly. Especially given that in his own words, Charlie expressed concerns about his safety over this... as well as rejecting very large cash infusions into TP USA to change the course of the questions he had started asking after a direct conversation with Bibi, the head "chosen one".

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Lori's avatar

netanyahu needs to be replaced. he is a zionist fanatic.

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Judy's avatar

🙏💙

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