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Dave Scrimshaw's avatar

When I was teaching middle school, I tried this on test days and had a statistical improvement in the students overall scores.

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David Kukkee's avatar

We are still on the same page John Leake... I find 'rap' most tedious (impossible) to tolerate. I was trained in high school orchestra...(brass), piano at home, and guitar as a curiosity later on. I was told that about 75% of jewelers (an interest of mine, faceting gemstones, silversmithing, goldsmithing, lapidary and casting precious metals) are also musicians. It seems to me that learning the language of music does indeed raise the I.Q. significantly, as does the learning of most every other thing that requires mental effort. The brain is able to rise to almost any challenge it seems... which is why I view AI as being so dangerous and potentially toxic to the brain, as is the removal of cursive writing, and mental arithmetic from schools. A lazy brain has a poor prognosis over time apparently. I note there is merit to what you have asserted John Leake... a book I read recently entitled "Imagine Heaven" by John Burke documents the experiences of some 100 people who had a near-death event, (NDE), left their bodies behind, and saw, felt, and heard things that were similar to the others... One of those notable commonalities was the comments about music in Heaven... described as thrilling, loving, beautiful beyond words. God's designs are flawless... we should enjoy them here too, for health.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Nature is a fabulous artist and teacher....So many types and varieties of plants, trees etc. My husband lost his vision. But he loved trees in the past as he did fine woodworking for people in wealthy homes. So we have a book on trees just talks about individual varieties of trees the world over...amazing and stunning with pictures and details on flowers, seeds etc. . I think it is really true....that "Only God can make a tree." I read the chapter and describe the pictures to him.

It is easy-- as an older person-- to get jaded. If you study trees you cannot be jaded. The exquisite design and absolute singularity of each type of tree...awesome! I'm glad so many people saw heaven. No doubt they did. Heaven is here, too.

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Brian's avatar

Thank you for sharing.

I was blessed to be raised in a musical family. I was trained on piano and later violin. I performed for many years as an amateur, but my older sibling are both professionals.

My wife and I have always gravitated to living in beautiful locales, City of Trees, mountains of Idaho and a pecan orchard in Texas. Now we are living on the Azores islands a paradise of nature to be certain.

In college I studied engineering, but maintained my musical performance in the orchestra. The conductor taught a course on the study of time in music. It was fascinating. I know that classical music helps us live enriched lives.

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Kay's avatar

Many years ago, in a survey, CEOs were asked what studies contributed the most to their success. The one cited most often was music.

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la chevalerie vit's avatar

Indeed, classical music can give quite a catharsis. Deutsche Grammophon is currently doing a series of high quality releases, "The Original Source" series, of recordings from the 1970s. There are some wonderful releases so far! I also find that some jazz, like some classical, can reach deeply emotive levels.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

What Jazz do you recommend? You know there was a choral group that "jazzed up Bach" It was call the Swingle Singers.

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Kay's avatar

Bach doesn’t need jazzing up.

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la chevalerie vit's avatar

It doesn’t. Yet jazz treatments can be enjoyable.

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Victoria Cooper's avatar

I remember the Swingle Singers! Got the LP.

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la chevalerie vit's avatar

If you like jazz treatments of Bach then you might already know about Jacques Loussier Trio. If you like Jazz choral uou may enjoy Manhattan Transfer’s Vocalese album and Singers Unlimited with Rob McConnell and the Boss Brass. There exists a large variety of styles and formats out there so I wouldn’t know where to begin off hand for suggestions, and people have diverse tastes. It would require more time and thought than a comment would allow. Small groups like trios and quartets, to big bands, can all deliver a range of emotions from energetic to chaotic to subtly textured contemplative. Makes me wonder what styles might align with the thesis of this post and how they would rate, as jazz has a looser structure and improvisational elements. By way of a sample, consider Diana Krall’s performance of Case of You (Live in Paris), Lush Life by Diane Schuur and Maynard Ferguson, Easy Living by Clifford Brown (Memorial Album), Pat Metheny’s Lonely Woman (Rejoicing), Charlie Haden’s Haunted Heart, Michael Brecker’s Sea Glass, Brad Goode Nature Boy, Miles Davis’ So What and All Blues. Others may suggest differently as there are myriad possibilities. Hopefully that’s a little taste.

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Daphne's avatar

Oh, I love Jacques Loussier! My parents used to have the records. These are all great suggestions.

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FarmGirl's avatar

I was at the dentist recently and they were playing rap. I asked if they did this intentionally so we would all walk out of there with night guards from gritted teeth. They asked if I wanted different music and I said "how about Bach? If you can't do that, then anything classical." They obliged and within minutes, a lot of people were apparently complaining and someone switched it right back to rap. I wondered if they were so unfamiliar with the sublime that it aggravated them, or if their brains were so cooked that they could no longer comprehend. The experience made me sad.

And so did the background about a brilliant musician and man full of life and spirit and understanding whose life ended thanks to the ignorant covid brutes. Listening to classical music should inspire us to stand up for what is good for the soul, and so, for one another.

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Randall Stoehr's avatar

Rap is what happens when you hate all that is good in this world.

And the repeated word Fu**, is the only perverted verb that shows any real action.

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Kay's avatar

Yes, cooked brains. Did you read that store owners in San Francisco found that playing Bach drove the homeless squatters away from their store fronts?

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Paving the Way's avatar

Find a new dentist. What if more people refused to participate? That would be a movement.

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Monterey's avatar

Well, my husband is one of the best dentists in his community and I wouldn't change for anything 🙂

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Monterey's avatar

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..... And best of all he gives painless shots. You can actually relax in the chair when he's giving the lidocaine 🙂

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FarmGirl's avatar

The folks controlling the music that streams through the dentist’s office are young. The dentist is actually excellent at her craft. I would never change dentists simply because I did not like the music.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Well, those young folks controlling the music need to learn that the business is there for the CUSTOMERS, so the music should please the customers; not the ‘young people in control’ of the music.

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FarmGirl's avatar

I completely agree. I imagine, unfortunately, that some of the people who complained were also the customers. And this goes back to the issue that many have expressed here that a lot of people have not been exposed to this genre. When they are in a stressful situation like going to the dentist is for many, they want what makes them comfortable and for some reason, their systems are now wired to embrace rap for comfort.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I’m not buying that. And I’ve been to too many restaurants where the piped music is selected by the kitchen staff, rather than what customers want.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

That is horrifying.

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Monterey's avatar

You would be amazed how many people just have not been exposed to classical music. My dentist husband would occasionally try to play classical music in his office and would instantly get complaints from the staff about it. So they normally played the type of pop music that most people would listen to.

I feel fortunate that I had a mother that exposed us to plenty of classical music and saw that we were trained in playing classical music as well.

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Maha's avatar

I played classical music in my practice, and if the staff complained, I said, sorry, classical music is the sound of the physical truth in the universe, and I want my patients exposed to it.

I tended to play Bach often, since, unlike the Romantic Period, it didn't change from piano to triple forte in a measure or two. While not known for a lot of discordant passages, Bach hinted at them in much of his work, leaving nuggets for composers to explore two centuries later.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

I would throw some Offenbach in there occasionally, shake things up. :)

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FarmGirl's avatar

I imagine the staff were all young people. And yet, on our local classical radio station there is a weekly interview with young people playing classical music so I can’t generalize about the young. To be sure, parents who expose their kids to different types of music (and different types of foods and hobbies and skills) may just raise the healthiest, well-rounded individuals. But they cannot teach what they do not know. I don’t know what the solution is but it does seem like we are backsliding as a culture, losing a lot of the wonder that makes life so exciting.

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Maha's avatar

My daughter began studying piano at age 5. By the time she was 13 she could sight read Mozart, Beethoven and Bach quite adequately. I asked her if she was interested in working up popular music pieces she found interesting. She said, "No, I just like the way (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, etc) feels under my fingers".

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Monterey's avatar

Yes, the staff was mostly young people and a few older ones who hadn't really been exposed to classical music much

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Elementary schools used to have music programs that exposed children to classical music. Not anymore, I am afraid, unless they go to private school.

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Maha's avatar

A sad commentary on culture.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I would refuse to see a dentist who plays rap.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

I would write the dentist a letter and go to a different practice.

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FarmGirl's avatar

A more nuanced approach is probably better. Just as in classical music, where we see careful attention to placement of notes and rhythm, I think it is better not to change direction too quickly. It takes effort in this world to get along, but the results might just be breathtaking.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Please, please tell me about your nuanced approach to misogyny, calls to violence and racist attacks.

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Ileana's avatar

Rap was promoted and pushed on people to further alienate them from anything beautiful ,comforting and celestial, even.That's all you can see these days in art &music,nothing elevating and superior. You cannot compare that rap garbage with classical music which is inspired by the divine in us.All great composers were inspired by the divine .See the work of Masaru Emoto about how music and sounds affect water and keep in mind we're 70% water.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Rap is ugly. It's subject matter is ugly. I can't think anything about it that is uplifting.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Have you ever looked up the lyrics? They’re a horror.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Yes, I have. I was teaching African American History in a college (I'm white, btw. I know, it's unthinkable now), and listened to that junk in order to help me understand black culture. We have come a long way from blacks singing spirituals to something that wants to be music but is not.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Thanks, Mary. I’m sick and tired of this obsession with race (racemongering). A special month for black people, TV channels such as ‘ALLBLK’…ETSY Home Screen highlighting black-owned businesses…all of it. What do I care the race of a business owner?I was raised to go by a person’s character, regardless of their ‘color’. I think it’s done on purpose, to keep people distracted and divided.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

I agree, Cathleen.. I am sick of it, too. I believe all this media fabricated stuff like Black Lives Matter, Gay Pride Month, is all about stirring up division and emphasizing the DIFFERENCES in various groups...instead of focusing on the fact that we are all just people....We all came out of the earth and will go back there. It's a sign of a truly decadent society.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

DEI has backfired; by hiring on the basis of color, those hires have too often proven themselves to be unworthy of the jobs they were given. And that ends up reflecting poorly on the entire profession as well as the race whose color is being privileged. It’s nuts.

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Jennifer Jones's avatar

CIA

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Ileana's avatar

💯

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Denise Lewis's avatar

"If you are a senior citizen who is frequently tempted to watch the senseless horror show known as the “evening news,” please replace this terrible habit with that of sitting in your favorite room and listening to classical music". I LOVE THIS!

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Honeybee's avatar

Remember, too, plants love classical music and do well when they can listen.

I grew up with a father who would blast classical music so classical music was never at the top of my list. As I aged, that scenario changed.

I began listening to classical 4-5 years ago on a regular basis although I had been listening here and there over the latter part of my life. I encountered André Rieu whose conducting style I like immensely. Rieu has performed with his orchestra all over the world, and he gives upcoming artists exposure on his videos by incorporating them into his shows.

If you haven't watched a Rieu concert, which appear on the net, you've missed a big gift. His performances are robust with people singing along with songs; people getting up to dance; people clapping and bouncing in their seats; or people with tears streaming down their faces...and I'm talking 100s in attendance. The entire concert is positive. He's recently entertained in the Middle East with strict Islamic law governing and has succeeded admirably. He joins cultures.

I listened to Rieu nearly every day during the worst of the Covid confinement, and although frightened about possible forced vaccinations and isolated from my former Buddhist community, I was happy as a lark.

We need music which fills our hearts and reconnects us to our past. Often when I hear Neapolitan songs or certain arias by Pavarotti, I cry. My father was an Army officer and I grew up during my baby-young years from Heidelberg to Florence. I spoke Italian before English. We returned to the U.S. for 1st grade and I forgot all the Italian, of course. Music heals the heart.

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Aussiegrandma/Aussie Grandma's avatar

I think John has struck a cord with many of us here :) just the right cord I’d say. Totally agree John, classical music is the most soothing, invigorating, transporting music one can listen to and the discordant music of rap is also to me, impossible to get my head around. “What did he/she say?” I tried to be a with-it Mum but after being exposed to music from when in utero in the 50’s, not only through all the top “hit parades” of their day due to older siblings, my Dad played professionally the sax, four different sizes, clarinet and flute and dabbled with the banjo early in his career in big bands of the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s & 60’s. He played for many American greats who visited here, too many to name all of them (ie Louis Armstrong, Bobby Rydell, Danny Kaye, Bob Hope, Billy Eckstein sp?, many others). He loved jazz too so we were all exposed as kiddies, all learnt an instrument or two, singing and dancing and learned to love classical music which I then in turn exposed my children to, along with all the big hits of the former decades. All have known the benefits of classical for study and we often even now have some form of classical music in the background for 3 of us who work and play at home. Saying that, my husband, daughter & I saw André Rieu in glorious concert a few years ago in Brisbane, Queensland Australia. It was the most uplifting concert I think I’ve ever been to, one you just don’t want to end.

In contrast, a friend many years ago once took me to a Boom Town Rats concert, I walked out after two numbers, my stomach hurt, lol. Another friend prior, took me to a Split Ends concert, which I hated also. Do you know of them? They morphed into Crowded House a very successful NZ band.

Mind you, as a 13yo I snuck out to see The Monkees jn concert - like the Beatles before them, you couldn’t hear a note for all the screaming. Ha!

When your ear is classically tuned, it can’t bear the absolute weirdness of other non melodic, harmonious music. Guess I’m just getting old-errr :).

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Rap is much, much worse than modern pop/rock. Look up the lyrics. You’ll be thoroughly disgusted.

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David O'Halloran's avatar

I agree that rap music is one musical form I cannot - try as I might - be catholic about. Try traditional Korean music. That is tough - very tough - too. Nice links. Thanks.

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TRM's avatar
2dEdited

Here's a "classic" played by a lovely Korean lady named Luna Lee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIHvwagIVIQ&list=RDbIHvwagIVIQ&start_radio=1

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David O'Halloran's avatar

Amazing - she is an expert - but traditional Korean music, me thinks, Deep Purple are possibly not?

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TRM's avatar

Nor Hendrix, Metallica, AC/DC, Dire Straits, etc LOL. She plays great songs on a traditional instrument. Great mix of old and new.

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sandy's avatar
2dEdited

Used classical music in the classroom to stimulate creativity and relaxation music to calm hyped students. Thanks for reminding us of classical benefits.

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Rebecca Borrelli's avatar

Ahh please consider watching Benjamin Zander’s TED Talk on this:

https://youtu.be/r9LCwI5iErE?si=lgI3kjYfiLmKYAfI

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Paving the Way's avatar

You did not write it but Rap music has been forced on us by the overlords as a token of European hate and a plan to dumb down the population. Classical and Romantic melodies are higher IQ music, and like symmetrical art, comes from European cultural excellence. They want to kill that and the want to kill us. Listen as protest. Avoid listening to other low IQ forms as protest.

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Linda's avatar

Dennis Prager would completely agree! I was raised in a household of varied music interests, but we've learned that we all gravitate to music based in the classics. My father was an operatic tenor, my mom had a beautiful soprano - they sang in the church choir together their entire marriage. We were completely influenced by them and are greatly blessed. If you're interested...please enjoy my dad singing the tenor solo from the Messiah...I was about 13 (this is 50 years ago) and we secretly recorded him on a reel to reel and have migrated the recording to digital. Thank you for all you do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTV51k7aE0

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

Thank-you for sharing that, Linda. Your father was quite talented.

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SECURED 4 ETERNITY's avatar

Bach,Tchaikovsky,Mozart and Rachmaninov! and a nice hot cup of tea!! Perfect way to protect your sanity!!✝️🙏

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CHRISTOPHER ASHTON's avatar

Here's another maxim that has rung true for decades, "rap is crap." Actually it's like the sound of western civilization sinking into the abyss.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Yes! and Yess! I listen to Bach often and the other stalwarts...Brahms etc. My favorite is always Bach. I play the piano(badly} to the sometimes distress of my immediate neighbors in our building. I love the preludes and fugues. and other pieces. It is challenging to improve skills now that I have the time...Sheer delight in Bach.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Also my favorite!

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Keith Renecle's avatar

Hi John, I relate totally to your hatred of rap music. I also don't like to even categorize rap & music in the same sentence! My all-time pet hate is the thumping bass club music, which we here in South Africa (aka Darkest Africa) refer to as "Doef-doef" music. The explosive, repetitive thumping bass produced by high powered amplifiers and sub-woofers in cars and home sound systems penetrates solid concrete. To the listener in the clubs, cars or homes that can hear the song, it's most likely very catchy music, but to anyone outside, all that they can hear, or rather "feel" is that monotonous beat. Murders have be perpetrated over this, but it's like the folks enjoying this crap are hypnotized and sort-of synchronized by something like a clock-pulse in a computer!

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