What if Mangione isn't the gunman, and what if UHC CEO Brian Thompson had announced his intention to speak uncomfortable truths about the U.S. government?
So glad to see someone look at this story from this angle. I heard whispers of this early on, but no one in the media, even indie media, pursued it. Thank you, John, for following through.
I am a portrait artist and can see that the faces in the two images of 'Mangione' do not match. The brow ridge, or 'glabella' in the top image dives into the nasal bone where it is on the same plane of the nasal bone in the bottom image. You can tell this from the way the light does not vary from brow ridge to the nose in the lower image.
The Chief Financial Officer of Arthur Anderson accounting (presciently?) jumped ship in 1997 (shortly before the Enron fraud hit the fan, soon to be followed by the Worldcom fraud, both of which HUGE frauds destroyed the Arthur Anderson accounting firm). "The firm collapsed by mid-2002, as details of its questionable accounting practices for energy company Enron and telecommunications company Worldcom were revealed amid the two high-profile bankruptcies." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen#Collapse
Who was the CFO of Arthur Anderson?
Answer: Stephen Hemsley.
"Hemsley began his career at Arthur Andersen, where he served as Managing Partner and Chief Financial Officer. In 1997, he joined UnitedHealth Group, initially serving in senior financial roles." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Hemsley#Career
Where did Hemsley go?
Answer: to United Health Group!!!
"Stephen J. Hemsley (born June 4, 1952) is an American businessman who is the chair of the board and chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group Inc."
> "Business Week reported his annual salary as $14,518,164.[9] For 2016, his compensation was estimated at $31.3 million, representing a 55.8 percent increase compared to 2015,[10] which was estimated at $14,500,000 by FierceHealthcare.[11] "
> "According to bizjournals.com the country's highest-paid CEO, Hemsley, made $101.96 million in 2010.[13]"
> "In 2011, he was named the highest paid CEO by Forbes following a large gain in the value of his stock ownership.[14]"
> "In late 2011, Hemsley's most recent annual compensation was estimated by Forbes at $48.8 million."
> "In 2025, following his return as CEO of UnitedHealth Group, Hemsley was awarded a compensation package that included $60 million in stock options"
From the moment this story hit the news I have always thought something was wrong with the narrative being presented. The shooter was very calm and methodical and appears to have executed a well thought out plan. The shooter manually racking the slide of the gun after each shot was rather unusual, but the shooter showed no signs of being at all surprised by this. He very methodically managed it like it was totally expected which doesn't suggest any unexpected "malfunction". For this same methodical planner to be hanging around days later with a manifesto on him and still carrying the alleged murder weapon seems extremely odd.
Yes, it didn't look like he was clearing unexpected jams, he was working the slide as if it were part of what he fully expected to have to do. Not sure what that mean, but it seems significant.
I never thought that Mangione acted alone. Just a cursory evaluation should determine that! He was waiting for the man at such an early hour- how did he even know where and when to find him. I suspected and still do, that the poor victim was doing or going to do something that the corrupt powers didn’t like. And the lapdog media’s lack of curiosity seals it as truth.
As I've mentioned many times, I love mysteries and "real crime" stories. I like your approach, John. Anyone investigating the guilt or innocence of a party has to be scrupulous in remaining true to facts and open to interpretation. I'm rewatching Poirot, and he's always a delight.
Oh, John!! "...an agency through which $1.52 trillion of federal money flowed in fiscal year 2024, or about 22.5% of all federal spending." I'm boiling inside. I never go to my "Medicare" doctor. I treat myself with herbs and devise my own physical therapy as needed. I wish I could have some of the money I pay into Medicare monthly to defray my very real expenses toward maintaining my health. Good herbal concoctions are expensive, and some work and some don't. I've spent a goodly sum on protecting myself from vaxxed shedders and chemtrails trying a plethora of products.
Thus, my healthcare is privately funded by me. I wish we had a system where money could be available for maintaining health according to the user's preferences. Medicare thinks going to a gym is maintaining your health...which is about all any Medicare plan offers besides lectures on nutrition...which I've studied since my early 20s.
I do use the dental and vision parts of Medicare and keep Medicare for a catastrophic event. The dental and vision payments have significantly decreased in the last two years. I pay more for my glasses now than Medicare does.
WARNING, Pentacel, an approved vaccine on the CDC SCEDULE for children 6 weeks and older, is actually a vaccine for 5 illnesses/ diseases. That is a 5 in 1 shot, and 4 doses of Pentacel are recommended. And this year's Fluzone shot is for 4 viruses in 1 shot. INSANITY
As a mediator, I discovered I was almost always able to surface much more information from disputants than attorneys, courts, etc. John, you also have the curious mind of a mediator that would make you excellent at the task. The challenge is finding the opportunity to open such dialogue with someone like Mangione. Mediation is typically confined to civil matters, though I did have occasion to touch upon criminal matters. (Mediation confidentiality does not hold in criminal situations, so one has to be creative in navigating the legal system.) For the conversation that you would make happen with Mangione, you would have to be "hired" by the defense attorney and thus fall under attorney-client privilege protection. It is something that can be done, it would just take some effort and skill. (Why would an attorney bring you in? To get a deeper, richer narrative with which to defend his client.)
Being a full fledged member of the Tin Hat Society, I have to agree this story/incident has to be in the top 10. Bizarre doesn’t even begin to explain it so you have to posit some evil genius element. Add to this the Brian Kholberger incident & one is struck by the sense of ‘what am I seeing here’. I would love to engage in some James Bond like scenario, but my problem is these people can’t even play a good Sean Connery.
Tampon Tim was supposed to do an anti Gun Rant at Minneapolis this morning at the mass shooting presser when they told him “it the shooter” was a Tranny with “Kill Trump” written on his rifle magazine. TT had the Limo do a u Turn back to Democrat Summer Camp.
Last December I went to the Mcdonalds in Altoona PA which is 50 miles from me where the so called shooter got arrested at the person that tip off the police never got the FBI reward I left and had a feeling they arrested the wrong person and my neighbor told me when he saw the photo of him before he got supposedly arrested she told me the gunman looks like a female so I can to the conclusion this is some kind of Psy-Op, so none of this is adding up and doesn't passed the smell test.
I think you might be on to something. But, in regards to your JFK reference, I think the fact that JFK was trying to stop Israel's nuclear weapons testing in Dimona, and his trying to get AIPAC to register as a foreign agent (then known as the American Zionist Council) played a bigger impact on his murder than his trying to pump the breaks on the Vietnam war. https://x.com/MaryKostakidis/status/1879141270028968338
I'd said, from the beginning, that this was a PsyOp.
Because the 'masked photos' did NOT match the guy that they arrested.
Not the face, nor THE CLOTHES (jacket).
If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong).....the masked photo's were also 2 different individuals.......so they were trying to pass off 2 different guys as Mangione; 3 guys, in total.
But we are living in a time where there are no longer FUNCTIONING, THINKING BRAINS!
'THEY' can show two photos of two completely different people, and TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE SAME......and the brain-dead Zombies will AGREE.
So glad to see someone look at this story from this angle. I heard whispers of this early on, but no one in the media, even indie media, pursued it. Thank you, John, for following through.
There’s always three sides to a story… and most times, most never get past the first two narratives: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-two-narratives-they-give-the
I am a portrait artist and can see that the faces in the two images of 'Mangione' do not match. The brow ridge, or 'glabella' in the top image dives into the nasal bone where it is on the same plane of the nasal bone in the bottom image. You can tell this from the way the light does not vary from brow ridge to the nose in the lower image.
Another Patsy.
Yep. Just like Lee Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray and Thomas Crooks.
My favorite is Paul McCartney.
Who was definitely replaced, and may -- OR MAY NOT -- be dead:
"John Halliday Paul McCartney"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDIfy1N0ouI
43s
There are probably 1/2 dozen PMs over the years. We could ask billy Shears about it.
“… 1/2 dozen PMs over the years …”
With 2 of them (i.e. biological Paul and Billy) being the important ones.
"UNITEDHEALTH GROUP CEO HISTORY: FROM BURKE TO HEMSLEY"
https://www.historyoasis.com/post/unitedhealth-group-ceo-history
A bit of history:
The Chief Financial Officer of Arthur Anderson accounting (presciently?) jumped ship in 1997 (shortly before the Enron fraud hit the fan, soon to be followed by the Worldcom fraud, both of which HUGE frauds destroyed the Arthur Anderson accounting firm). "The firm collapsed by mid-2002, as details of its questionable accounting practices for energy company Enron and telecommunications company Worldcom were revealed amid the two high-profile bankruptcies." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen#Collapse
Who was the CFO of Arthur Anderson?
Answer: Stephen Hemsley.
"Hemsley began his career at Arthur Andersen, where he served as Managing Partner and Chief Financial Officer. In 1997, he joined UnitedHealth Group, initially serving in senior financial roles." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Hemsley#Career
Where did Hemsley go?
Answer: to United Health Group!!!
"Stephen J. Hemsley (born June 4, 1952) is an American businessman who is the chair of the board and chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group Inc."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Hemsley
> "Business Week reported his annual salary as $14,518,164.[9] For 2016, his compensation was estimated at $31.3 million, representing a 55.8 percent increase compared to 2015,[10] which was estimated at $14,500,000 by FierceHealthcare.[11] "
> "According to bizjournals.com the country's highest-paid CEO, Hemsley, made $101.96 million in 2010.[13]"
> "In 2011, he was named the highest paid CEO by Forbes following a large gain in the value of his stock ownership.[14]"
> "In late 2011, Hemsley's most recent annual compensation was estimated by Forbes at $48.8 million."
> "In 2025, following his return as CEO of UnitedHealth Group, Hemsley was awarded a compensation package that included $60 million in stock options"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Hemsley#Compensation
The "news" tells us that Luigi Mangione assassinated United Heath Care exec Brian Thompson.
That must be what happened if they said so on the "news," right? RIGHT?? 😅
Great Research!
From the moment this story hit the news I have always thought something was wrong with the narrative being presented. The shooter was very calm and methodical and appears to have executed a well thought out plan. The shooter manually racking the slide of the gun after each shot was rather unusual, but the shooter showed no signs of being at all surprised by this. He very methodically managed it like it was totally expected which doesn't suggest any unexpected "malfunction". For this same methodical planner to be hanging around days later with a manifesto on him and still carrying the alleged murder weapon seems extremely odd.
Yes, it didn't look like he was clearing unexpected jams, he was working the slide as if it were part of what he fully expected to have to do. Not sure what that mean, but it seems significant.
I never thought that Mangione acted alone. Just a cursory evaluation should determine that! He was waiting for the man at such an early hour- how did he even know where and when to find him. I suspected and still do, that the poor victim was doing or going to do something that the corrupt powers didn’t like. And the lapdog media’s lack of curiosity seals it as truth.
As I've mentioned many times, I love mysteries and "real crime" stories. I like your approach, John. Anyone investigating the guilt or innocence of a party has to be scrupulous in remaining true to facts and open to interpretation. I'm rewatching Poirot, and he's always a delight.
Oh, John!! "...an agency through which $1.52 trillion of federal money flowed in fiscal year 2024, or about 22.5% of all federal spending." I'm boiling inside. I never go to my "Medicare" doctor. I treat myself with herbs and devise my own physical therapy as needed. I wish I could have some of the money I pay into Medicare monthly to defray my very real expenses toward maintaining my health. Good herbal concoctions are expensive, and some work and some don't. I've spent a goodly sum on protecting myself from vaxxed shedders and chemtrails trying a plethora of products.
Thus, my healthcare is privately funded by me. I wish we had a system where money could be available for maintaining health according to the user's preferences. Medicare thinks going to a gym is maintaining your health...which is about all any Medicare plan offers besides lectures on nutrition...which I've studied since my early 20s.
I do use the dental and vision parts of Medicare and keep Medicare for a catastrophic event. The dental and vision payments have significantly decreased in the last two years. I pay more for my glasses now than Medicare does.
All I can really say is that this whole thing has stunk like a cia op from the beginning.
WARNING, Pentacel, an approved vaccine on the CDC SCEDULE for children 6 weeks and older, is actually a vaccine for 5 illnesses/ diseases. That is a 5 in 1 shot, and 4 doses of Pentacel are recommended. And this year's Fluzone shot is for 4 viruses in 1 shot. INSANITY
Thank you!
As a mediator, I discovered I was almost always able to surface much more information from disputants than attorneys, courts, etc. John, you also have the curious mind of a mediator that would make you excellent at the task. The challenge is finding the opportunity to open such dialogue with someone like Mangione. Mediation is typically confined to civil matters, though I did have occasion to touch upon criminal matters. (Mediation confidentiality does not hold in criminal situations, so one has to be creative in navigating the legal system.) For the conversation that you would make happen with Mangione, you would have to be "hired" by the defense attorney and thus fall under attorney-client privilege protection. It is something that can be done, it would just take some effort and skill. (Why would an attorney bring you in? To get a deeper, richer narrative with which to defend his client.)
Being a full fledged member of the Tin Hat Society, I have to agree this story/incident has to be in the top 10. Bizarre doesn’t even begin to explain it so you have to posit some evil genius element. Add to this the Brian Kholberger incident & one is struck by the sense of ‘what am I seeing here’. I would love to engage in some James Bond like scenario, but my problem is these people can’t even play a good Sean Connery.
Ive thought all of what you said from the very beginning…. The whole thing is suss.
Tampon Tim was supposed to do an anti Gun Rant at Minneapolis this morning at the mass shooting presser when they told him “it the shooter” was a Tranny with “Kill Trump” written on his rifle magazine. TT had the Limo do a u Turn back to Democrat Summer Camp.
Last December I went to the Mcdonalds in Altoona PA which is 50 miles from me where the so called shooter got arrested at the person that tip off the police never got the FBI reward I left and had a feeling they arrested the wrong person and my neighbor told me when he saw the photo of him before he got supposedly arrested she told me the gunman looks like a female so I can to the conclusion this is some kind of Psy-Op, so none of this is adding up and doesn't passed the smell test.
I think you might be on to something. But, in regards to your JFK reference, I think the fact that JFK was trying to stop Israel's nuclear weapons testing in Dimona, and his trying to get AIPAC to register as a foreign agent (then known as the American Zionist Council) played a bigger impact on his murder than his trying to pump the breaks on the Vietnam war. https://x.com/MaryKostakidis/status/1879141270028968338
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Indeed!
This story was fishy from the beginning (or maybe I’ve just become increasingly cynical and distrusting with age).
I never thought those photos matched and thought that they were two different people.
I am also fairly confident the truth will never fully come out. (See above).
I'd said, from the beginning, that this was a PsyOp.
Because the 'masked photos' did NOT match the guy that they arrested.
Not the face, nor THE CLOTHES (jacket).
If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong).....the masked photo's were also 2 different individuals.......so they were trying to pass off 2 different guys as Mangione; 3 guys, in total.
But we are living in a time where there are no longer FUNCTIONING, THINKING BRAINS!
'THEY' can show two photos of two completely different people, and TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE SAME......and the brain-dead Zombies will AGREE.