I’ve been saying similar. When the establishment crumbles, how will we weather the chaos if we’re not self-sufficient? And what will we replace the broken systems with??
The question? "Did God really say you must not...?"
The fruit of disobedience, towards God, looked good and would make us like God...
So the course of least resistance.
But more so, we want what God has instructed is not good. And that is "follow your heart" by trusting in men / women, so I don't have to do the hard work of walking the straight and narrow. Thus rejecting God’s best way thru this life and into peace with him face to face for eternity.
We want to sing with "olde blue eyes" "I did it my way".
But not really, we actually want to claim the Nuremberg defense, just following orders.
Wisdom from the LORD
Jeremiah 17: 5 This is what the LORD says: “Cursed are those who put their trust in mere humans, who rely on human strength and turn their hearts away from the LORD.
6 They are like stunted shrubs in the desert,
with no hope for the future. They will live in the barren wilderness, in an uninhabited salty land.
7 “But blessed are those who trust in the LORD and have made the LORD their hope and confidence.
8 They are like trees planted along a riverbank, with roots that reach deep into the water. Such trees are not bothered by the heat or worried by long months of drought.
Their leaves stay green, and they never stop producing fruit.
9 “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked.
They'll start confronting it once they are chronically hungry, or they've lost their own homes, or their own child. Then they will wake up like magic. Just as an aging bridge is never repaired until it collapses with multiple deaths, and leads the evening news. Got to have dead bodies nearby, and/or the immediate personal threat of it. Deep investigations, with things like doctors' testimony and engineering reports on imminent danger, are completely useless until after fact. 9/11 was actually such a case.
Many of us don't trust a word our government says. I trust results. When I see action and the result is easier on my wallet, my culture and my day-to-day life, *that's* what I trust. I voted for Trump three times, but it's not because I would trust him to water my houseplants for a single day if I was out of town. I wouldn't. It's because his economy and the reflection of his policies in my community make things better for me and my family. He's the only politician in my lifetime who's made campaign promises he actually kept. I didn't trust Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden or even Reagan and I voted for Reagan. I don't like nor trust Trump either. He's done things I really don't like. Real ID, Palentir and Flock Security come to mind. There's old saying my grandfather used to use. "Trust your government, said no Founding Father ever."
The Founding Fathers wrote in the Preamble to our Constitution, its purpose: “… to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity …”. Having achieved independence from a tyrannical monarch the Founding Fathers feared creating a strong central government. They purposely granted very limited powers to the federal government. They created three co-equal branches to serve as a check and balance on power. They purposely in providing for the common DEFENSE placed the power to declare war into the branch of government most representative of the people, the legislative branch. War implied by the Preamble was always meant to be a defensive action, not an offensive one. We have strayed way too far from our Constitution. America will never be great again until such time as we return to our founding principles.
I would love to have small government that gets rid of 3/4 of the institutions Congress has created, but nobody's been willing to pare them down before Trump, who's canned over 200K federal employees. Hundreds of thousands of useless bureaucrats have been canned in the last year and while I understand your point about those whom have lived under tyranny for their entire lives, will be free. Sometimes violence is the only answer and in this case, you should be asking why every president since 1979 has allowed the Mullahs to hold the West hostage, kidnap and abuse American citizens and extort and attack us on a whim.
Honestly? I'm just grateful the Iranian people will have the freedom to direct their own destiny.
I think you mean, "for that matter," and you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. I lost tens of thousands of dollars on my 401K and investments in the Biden years. I've gained it all back and added 40% on top of it in the last 12 months. Gas, eggs, cars and most groceries have seen prices fall. Inflation is down over 6% to 2.4% which beats the f*ck out of 9%. Homicide rates have fallen below the rates of the year 1900. I don't have weirdos and pervs in my gym changing room anymore and illegal aliens being deported are seeing rents and mortgage rates fall and the easing of the housing crisis. Maduro was a narcotics trafficker with a warrant out for his arrest for a decade. A one night military operation does not a war make. We had credible intelligence Iran was going to attack our bases and they were working to revamp their nuclear program. Their people have been suffering for 5 decades. We are *not* at war with Iran. We are protecting American lives. If you don't like that, there's no line to GTFO. Obama started an illegal war and turned an American citizen into a pink mist with an illegal drone strike on women and children and the left yawned. Believe what you like, but don't expect me to join you on the rainbow bridge. My family is doing 100% better than they were at the end of Drool-Puppy McSleepy's single term and I have every right to be happy about that. I don't like Trump on a personal level but I enjoy the results of his policies. That's my right as an American. Deal with it - all of you crybabies.
Excellent. That's clearly what I was going for, you p*ssy. 🙄 You can dislike my politics, but you act like I should give a 💩 if you do.
Just to be clear, I don't.
Also, I'm not the one acting like I have a say in someone else's political choices. That would be you and your crybaby friends. I never said I require you to believe what I believe. That's the fantastic thing about America. You have the right to believe whatever you like, but guess what? So do I.
Otherwise if you wish to bitch and state no results have come about then I'll block you as I do many sheeple daily. We have no time for sheepies. Only time for Patriots willing to take the action required
Wow than catch up to what's been going down behind the scenes cause it's all in process hence the many arrests that have already occurred. Get involved and you perhaps would know what results have occurred huh
When the Covid response was implemented, I could tell instantly that the health experts were lying. Over time, evidence would slowly leak out that they were indeed wrong (lying). It kept happening over and over and over. The lies just kept rolling out and the evidence that showed they were lying was delayed by about two or three months.
2 weeks to flatten the curve, millions will die, 3% mortality rate, six feet, no mask/mask/double mask, no early treatments, safe and effective, winter of death, etc.
In my naïveté, every time a lie was debunked, I kept thinking, “well, the gig is up, now everyone will know that they were lying or flat out wrong and the people are going to stop listening to the public health officials“. Boy was I wrong. So, so, wrong.
Same thing happened with the Ukrainian/Russian war.
And now the same exact thing with Trump. He has broken every significant campaign promise and is ACTIVELY PROTECTING PEDOFILES!! And he is kidnapping and killing foreign leaders. And granting complete liability protection to companies that poison our food. And funding genocide. And spending our nation into oblivion.
I thought maga voters would see that they had been hoodwinked. Again, so naive.
The Covid debacle and my own experience: I kept pointing out that whether or not I or anyone else refused the jab, that individual decision would have no effect on another individual. It works like a seat belt. It protects those who buckle up. It doesn’t have consequences on the passengers who choose not to. Likewise those who don’t opt for the protection will not negate the protection of the individuals who opted for the jabs. So… why the mandates besides selling more product? I never got a response other than “herd immunity “ And never did I get an explanation of what “herd immunity” was. So go figure. I give up.
Yeah, you can’t reason someone out of a religious belief. Vaccines are one of the religious-like-ideas (or cults) with the most devoted followers. Fortunately more than a few people have finally come to their senses about them but not all.
You've answered your own question in the wording of your question - why "American people"? The problems we are currently confronting apply to the whole of humanity, not one subset of humanity. What keeps Americans so obedient to their government is nationalism - Americans are the best so of course your government must be the best. As soon as you stop trusting your government, you can no longer claim to be the biggest, the best, the holiest, and so perfect that you can and should impose your will on the rest of the world. Not every nation has the same level of hubris as America, but every nation has its own form of national pride it has to defend.
Very true. There is also the aspect that distrusting our government would start us on the road of distrusting other types of propaganda--and most people want so badly to "fit in" and be accepted, that admitting distrust of any the major narratives/groupthink would be very disturbing to their comfort and to their social lives.
I honestly ask. What choice do we have? We can question, doubt and even hate them. Oh that's right we can vote. How's THAT going? Really, how can you ask such a question.
Arguing from effect to cause, it is quite apparent to me that any system of governance that produces our current slate of psychopathic leaders is dysfunctional.
We don’t seem to learn from history. Centralized power always leads to eventual abuse. Wars are expensive and would never occur absent the coercively derived resources of government. Replacing current leaders doesn’t provide a permanent solution when the problem is structural.
Hanlon’s Razor is an adage stating: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" Every political leader knows his job is to protect the people who voted him into office while improving their circumstances. It is not the system of governance that produces psychopathic leaders. Dictators can be benign and elected leaders can turn out to behave badly.
We need political leaders to get things done. If you don't approve of their decisions, help them correct their mistakes. After all, politics is not a spectator sport>
The uncritical application of Hanlon's Razor despite overwhelming evidence of organization, repeated patterns and intent is often used as a shield masking those that act out of malice. Or perhaps more accurately replace malice with self interest untempered by any moral or ethical boundaries.
I propose the inverse as a balance in analyzing.
Reverse Hanlon's Razor:
Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.
→ Assume bad intent or deliberate harm when incompetence doesn't adequately explain repeated patterns, especially in powerful institutions, bureaucracies, politics, or when actions consistently benefit the actor at others' expense.
People invoke the reverse version in situations where they suspect systemic self-interest, corruption, or repeated harmful behavior (e.g., "In politics/big tech/government, incompetence alone doesn't cut it anymore").
Both razors are just heuristics—not ironclad rules—and the useful approach is often to consider both possibilities and look at evidence/patterns rather than defaulting to one.
Good points, all. Note, however, that deliberate evil and inadvertent evil can have the same or similar consequences as noted in this remark. “Only ignorance! only ignorance! how can you talk about only ignorance? Don't you know that it is the worst thing in the world, next to wickedness? -- and which does the most mischief heaven only knows." - Black Beauty by Anna Sewell
The conversation continues, "If people can say, 'Oh! I did not know, I did not mean any harm,' they think it is all right. I suppose Martha Mulwash did not mean to kill that baby when she dosed it with Dalby and soothing syrups; but she did kill it, and was tried for manslaughter."
"And serve her right, too," said Tom. "A woman should not undertake to nurse a tender little child without knowing what is good and what is bad for it."
In my view, it is a mistake to speculate about what motivates political leaders. It is said that Davy Crockett had a motto—”Be sure you’re right, then go ahead.” He was elected to Congress three times and defeated twice. We have no way of knowing how much of what was written about Crockett since then is true any more than we can forecast the consequences of Donald Trumps political decisions.
Note that Crockett and Trump have this in common: "Crockett emerges from his own story as...an engaging, if somewhat windy, storyteller... and a man of scant humility. (He announced that he was perfectly willing to be President, if anybody wanted him.)" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1955/09/03/be-sure-youre-right-then-go-ahead
David, I appreciate the civility in your response, though I think your position ends up obscuring more than it clarifies.
Saying it’s a “mistake to speculate about motivation” might sound prudent, but in practice it prevents us from distinguishing between systemic design and mere blunder. When harmful patterns consistently benefit the same actors, across multiple arenas, invoking “ignorance” ceases to explain much. At that scale, what looks like incompetence is usually the by‑product of structure, incentives, and psychology, not random accident.
Large institutions are built on compartmentalization — most participants only see their narrow task, not the larger effect. They don’t need to understand the plan; they just need a paycheck, prestige, or protection. Profit streams and career ladders condition compliance more effectively than any overt conspiracy. The “planners” set the rules of the game, while the “pawns” play sincerely within them; each layer believes it’s acting responsibly.
That’s why the reflexive use of Hanlon’s Razor no longer holds. It’s not that malice and ignorance are the same—it’s that the planners have learned to weaponize normal human psychology: fear of loss, need for belonging, ambition, risk aversion. They design incentive structures that make ordinary people perpetuate harmful outcomes while thinking they’re doing good. That’s not stupidity—that’s engineered compliance.
The claim that it’s futile or improper to explore motive effectively sterilizes political analysis. Power is always goal‑oriented. To say we can’t infer intent from repeated, self‑serving outcomes is to make genuine accountability impossible.
So while I share your concern about moral oversimplification, I’d argue the greater error is moral anesthesia: pretending coincidence explains what incentive and repetition make obvious.
Again, you make some excellent points. But you are discussing large institutional systems. I fail to see how exploring an individual's motives might make genuine accountability possible. To me, it seems like that's God's perogative.
In real world situations, actions are what bad actors are held accountable for; was the deed a genuine mistake or a deliberate choice? For a jury, the pattern of previous behaviors linked with outcomes determines the verdict.
As for our "manifestly corrupt, treacherous, homicidal, insane, weirdo rulers," we elected them hoping for the best.
Some thoughts from scripture:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,..
Note that DHS’s Office of Homeland Security Statistics reported that in FY 2023 ICE law‑enforcement officers were involved in 78 use‑of‑force incidents, of which 2 resulted in death, 9 in serious injury, and 19 in minor injury.
The Week’s running list notes that eight people have been fatally shot by “ICE or CBP agents” since Trump’s second inauguration (Jan 20, 2025)
By way of contrast, in Iran, "As of early 2026, at least several thousand protesters (on the order of 3,000–7,000 or more) were killed across Iran’s 2025–2026 protests, with some credible activist sources and leaks pointing to even higher totals, while the government admits only about 3,100 overall deaths from the unrest."
In a February 26, 2026 article, CNN quoted updated HRANA data that “at least 6,488 protesters were killed” and that the group was working to verify thousands more possible deaths, emphasizing that these are activist‑compiled figures which CNN cannot independently verify due to internet blackouts and access restrictions.
Re - ' Every political leader knows his job is to protect the people who voted him into office ...'
Don't forget they also need to satisfy their funders' objectives; and I suspect these take precedent until mere months before the next election. Is this Iran attack about nuclear processing or regime change - which do you think Trump's funders are interested in ?
You think Trump has need of funders? And do you think evildoers can be persuaded by threats to stop murdering people? Recognize this? Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience."
As I see it, God establishes just rulers. Unjust rulers establish themselves. It is up to us to discern the difference.
Trump needed funders, see below, they will want a return on their investment. He was funded by $1+ Billion by various routes.
Where the Money Came From
The "Trump machine" relied on a mix of traditional campaign funds and massive infusions from high-net-worth donors:
Official Campaign Committee: The "Donald J. Trump for President 2024" committee raised and spent approximately $390 million to $400 million.
Outside Groups (Super PACs): This is where the bulk of the heavy lifting occurred.
Make America Great Again Inc.: Spent over $320 million on advertising and operations.
America PAC (Elon Musk): Musk contributed an estimated $140 million to $200 million toward a massive ground game and "get out the vote" (GOTV) operations.
Preserve America PAC: Another major player that poured over $100 million into battleground state media.
In Trump's case, it is doubtful that investors can automatically expect political favors from a president who clearly states his agenda. They may have access so as to be able to provide information. A case in point was Trump's statement about CBD. In line with his aim to Make America Healthy Again he is quoted or paraphrased as calling CBD a “game changer” that could help “restore the body’s endocannabinoid system” for seniors and suggesting Medicare coverage for CBD.
I asked Perplexity AI, Is there any discussion or mention of dietary modulation of the endocannabinoid system function in political discourse? Response: The only clear example in mainstream political discourse that ties diet and lifestyle to endocannabinoid system (ECS) function comes from Donald Trump’s recent CBD messaging; beyond that, policy talk about the ECS is almost entirely pharmacologic (cannabis, CBD), not nutritional.
Psychologically, people, and by that I mean the average person often accurately described as sheep, want to believe that someone is coming to save them. In fact, they cannot fathom the possibility that the system may be rigged against them, or that their circumstances are unlikely to improve through conventional means.
They remain trapped in an endless cycle, believing that next time they will vote their way out of these problems. In reality, the same ruling establishment that creates these crises controls the mechanisms through which change is supposedly achieved, making genuine reform improbable.
With each passing year and each manufactured crisis, life in our country appears to decline, drifting further from the prosperity we enjoyed only twenty years ago. Yet many continue to trust mainstream media narratives, because the alternative, accepting that they may be largely powerless without decisive individual action, is too uncomfortable to confront. And most people are neither mentally nor physically prepared to take that kind of responsibility.
What really bothers me is that the Media, at least 94% of every form of worldwide media, is owned by the same group, the very group that is orchestrating or collective demise and who set up an island where they had their military abduct children to be raped and tortured in order to blackmail American politicians.
There is a better way forward that is detailed in The War Against Humanity by Anonymous Patriot. There is no secular solution to a spiritual problem, and someone did come two thousand years ago to save us. The problem is that people no longer believe His lessons still apply, and so Satan's dominion continues to expand.
As an Australian with an even worse government than your own, and no opposition, why is it that we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils?
We're still voting for a bunch of corrupt no hopers, with no vision and no dreams of anything better!
Americans are so gullible that the warmongers don’t even have to change the script. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Vietnam, the propaganda is unchanging .
When you love a woman you are blind and trust implicitly despite transgressions. When you love your country it's not the same. It's not a biological imperative hardwired into your cells and is subject to a different kind of manipulation. Still, I absolutely agree with your shock and disbelief of the absurdity of widespread government trust.
We are taught from birth to believe and put our trust in "the authorities." For example, that is why, despite mounds of readily available evidence early on (by March 2020) during the Covid scam/fraud/conspiracy that we were being lied to about everything and by everyone, the overwhelming majority of people believed in and went along with whatever "the authorities" said. BTW, "the authorities" includes elected officials, government organizations, the media, academia, and most sadly, the medical profession.
Most folks don’t know what else to do. The problem is too daunting to deal with so they don’t. 🤷♀️
I’ve been saying similar. When the establishment crumbles, how will we weather the chaos if we’re not self-sufficient? And what will we replace the broken systems with??
It goes back to the Garden of Eden Genesis 3.
The question? "Did God really say you must not...?"
The fruit of disobedience, towards God, looked good and would make us like God...
So the course of least resistance.
But more so, we want what God has instructed is not good. And that is "follow your heart" by trusting in men / women, so I don't have to do the hard work of walking the straight and narrow. Thus rejecting God’s best way thru this life and into peace with him face to face for eternity.
We want to sing with "olde blue eyes" "I did it my way".
But not really, we actually want to claim the Nuremberg defense, just following orders.
Wisdom from the LORD
Jeremiah 17: 5 This is what the LORD says: “Cursed are those who put their trust in mere humans, who rely on human strength and turn their hearts away from the LORD.
6 They are like stunted shrubs in the desert,
with no hope for the future. They will live in the barren wilderness, in an uninhabited salty land.
7 “But blessed are those who trust in the LORD and have made the LORD their hope and confidence.
8 They are like trees planted along a riverbank, with roots that reach deep into the water. Such trees are not bothered by the heat or worried by long months of drought.
Their leaves stay green, and they never stop producing fruit.
9 “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked.
Who really knows how bad it is?
10 But I, the LORD, search all hearts
and examine secret motives...
I give all people their due rewards,
according to what their actions deserve.”
They'll start confronting it once they are chronically hungry, or they've lost their own homes, or their own child. Then they will wake up like magic. Just as an aging bridge is never repaired until it collapses with multiple deaths, and leads the evening news. Got to have dead bodies nearby, and/or the immediate personal threat of it. Deep investigations, with things like doctors' testimony and engineering reports on imminent danger, are completely useless until after fact. 9/11 was actually such a case.
Today, this topic also reminded me of the the narcotic tug-of-war also going on here for many Americans:
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX_wwlIZ6ko)
...
Babe, baby, baby, I'm gonna leave you
I said baby, you know I'm gonna leave you
I'll leave you [the drug / Faustian bargain] in the summertime
Leave you when the summer [Hope] comes a-rolling
Leave you when the summer [Make America Great Again] comes along
...
I know I know, I know
I never, never, never, never, never gonna leave you, babe
But I got to go away from this place
I've got to quit you, yeah
...
what is daunting about the moral absolute?
Many of us don't trust a word our government says. I trust results. When I see action and the result is easier on my wallet, my culture and my day-to-day life, *that's* what I trust. I voted for Trump three times, but it's not because I would trust him to water my houseplants for a single day if I was out of town. I wouldn't. It's because his economy and the reflection of his policies in my community make things better for me and my family. He's the only politician in my lifetime who's made campaign promises he actually kept. I didn't trust Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden or even Reagan and I voted for Reagan. I don't like nor trust Trump either. He's done things I really don't like. Real ID, Palentir and Flock Security come to mind. There's old saying my grandfather used to use. "Trust your government, said no Founding Father ever."
I think that's *very* good advice.
Let's see, G H W Bush: no new taxes! Hmmm
Hmm
Trump peace president "get out of foreign wars", except Afghanistan, Syria, Gaza Venezuela...
He is definitely our guy.
Had shown true colors with op warp speed 2020 (unrepentant) and this term attempting to lay BRICS nations to rest. <attempted pun>
"I will stop Ukraine war in 24 hrs".
Negotiating peace and attack X 2 now.
Iran is not planning restraint this time. Sadly this has huge ramifications worldwide.
You are correct, the guy (Trump) is so full of shit.
It's all planned anyway and at least Kamala's not out there wrecking everything
Well, a saying from our olde Pappy: It is better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
And Trump and politicians fulfill that.
The Founding Fathers wrote in the Preamble to our Constitution, its purpose: “… to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity …”. Having achieved independence from a tyrannical monarch the Founding Fathers feared creating a strong central government. They purposely granted very limited powers to the federal government. They created three co-equal branches to serve as a check and balance on power. They purposely in providing for the common DEFENSE placed the power to declare war into the branch of government most representative of the people, the legislative branch. War implied by the Preamble was always meant to be a defensive action, not an offensive one. We have strayed way too far from our Constitution. America will never be great again until such time as we return to our founding principles.
I would love to have small government that gets rid of 3/4 of the institutions Congress has created, but nobody's been willing to pare them down before Trump, who's canned over 200K federal employees. Hundreds of thousands of useless bureaucrats have been canned in the last year and while I understand your point about those whom have lived under tyranny for their entire lives, will be free. Sometimes violence is the only answer and in this case, you should be asking why every president since 1979 has allowed the Mullahs to hold the West hostage, kidnap and abuse American citizens and extort and attack us on a whim.
Honestly? I'm just grateful the Iranian people will have the freedom to direct their own destiny.
Trump has done nothing but fuck all Americans and Canadians at that matter
I think you mean, "for that matter," and you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. I lost tens of thousands of dollars on my 401K and investments in the Biden years. I've gained it all back and added 40% on top of it in the last 12 months. Gas, eggs, cars and most groceries have seen prices fall. Inflation is down over 6% to 2.4% which beats the f*ck out of 9%. Homicide rates have fallen below the rates of the year 1900. I don't have weirdos and pervs in my gym changing room anymore and illegal aliens being deported are seeing rents and mortgage rates fall and the easing of the housing crisis. Maduro was a narcotics trafficker with a warrant out for his arrest for a decade. A one night military operation does not a war make. We had credible intelligence Iran was going to attack our bases and they were working to revamp their nuclear program. Their people have been suffering for 5 decades. We are *not* at war with Iran. We are protecting American lives. If you don't like that, there's no line to GTFO. Obama started an illegal war and turned an American citizen into a pink mist with an illegal drone strike on women and children and the left yawned. Believe what you like, but don't expect me to join you on the rainbow bridge. My family is doing 100% better than they were at the end of Drool-Puppy McSleepy's single term and I have every right to be happy about that. I don't like Trump on a personal level but I enjoy the results of his policies. That's my right as an American. Deal with it - all of you crybabies.
Trump is a pedophile. If you tell me you stand behind a fuckin pedo your gone
Please link to your evidence, since you seem better informed than prosecutors who'd love to imprison POTUS. 🙄
Dear Leslie, After reading what you wrote, I had to puke.
Excellent. That's clearly what I was going for, you p*ssy. 🙄 You can dislike my politics, but you act like I should give a 💩 if you do.
Just to be clear, I don't.
Also, I'm not the one acting like I have a say in someone else's political choices. That would be you and your crybaby friends. I never said I require you to believe what I believe. That's the fantastic thing about America. You have the right to believe whatever you like, but guess what? So do I.
That would be like me telling Americans I trust Trudeau and Carney ffs. Come on seriously.
Get back to me asap and let me know where you stand
Otherwise if you wish to bitch and state no results have come about then I'll block you as I do many sheeple daily. We have no time for sheepies. Only time for Patriots willing to take the action required
Wow than catch up to what's been going down behind the scenes cause it's all in process hence the many arrests that have already occurred. Get involved and you perhaps would know what results have occurred huh
When the Covid response was implemented, I could tell instantly that the health experts were lying. Over time, evidence would slowly leak out that they were indeed wrong (lying). It kept happening over and over and over. The lies just kept rolling out and the evidence that showed they were lying was delayed by about two or three months.
2 weeks to flatten the curve, millions will die, 3% mortality rate, six feet, no mask/mask/double mask, no early treatments, safe and effective, winter of death, etc.
In my naïveté, every time a lie was debunked, I kept thinking, “well, the gig is up, now everyone will know that they were lying or flat out wrong and the people are going to stop listening to the public health officials“. Boy was I wrong. So, so, wrong.
Same thing happened with the Ukrainian/Russian war.
And now the same exact thing with Trump. He has broken every significant campaign promise and is ACTIVELY PROTECTING PEDOFILES!! And he is kidnapping and killing foreign leaders. And granting complete liability protection to companies that poison our food. And funding genocide. And spending our nation into oblivion.
I thought maga voters would see that they had been hoodwinked. Again, so naive.
I don’t know how to help people snap out of this.
The Covid debacle and my own experience: I kept pointing out that whether or not I or anyone else refused the jab, that individual decision would have no effect on another individual. It works like a seat belt. It protects those who buckle up. It doesn’t have consequences on the passengers who choose not to. Likewise those who don’t opt for the protection will not negate the protection of the individuals who opted for the jabs. So… why the mandates besides selling more product? I never got a response other than “herd immunity “ And never did I get an explanation of what “herd immunity” was. So go figure. I give up.
Yeah, you can’t reason someone out of a religious belief. Vaccines are one of the religious-like-ideas (or cults) with the most devoted followers. Fortunately more than a few people have finally come to their senses about them but not all.
Good question and well put, John. lol.
It's a kakistocracy. We don't trust them, but what trustworthy people are capable of getting themselves in power?
Most people are sheep and politicians are wolves.
We need more sheep dogs.
True, but even sheep have enough sense & enough survival instinct to run if chased by wolves.
You've answered your own question in the wording of your question - why "American people"? The problems we are currently confronting apply to the whole of humanity, not one subset of humanity. What keeps Americans so obedient to their government is nationalism - Americans are the best so of course your government must be the best. As soon as you stop trusting your government, you can no longer claim to be the biggest, the best, the holiest, and so perfect that you can and should impose your will on the rest of the world. Not every nation has the same level of hubris as America, but every nation has its own form of national pride it has to defend.
Very true. There is also the aspect that distrusting our government would start us on the road of distrusting other types of propaganda--and most people want so badly to "fit in" and be accepted, that admitting distrust of any the major narratives/groupthink would be very disturbing to their comfort and to their social lives.
You speak of civic nationalism.
I honestly ask. What choice do we have? We can question, doubt and even hate them. Oh that's right we can vote. How's THAT going? Really, how can you ask such a question.
Arguing from effect to cause, it is quite apparent to me that any system of governance that produces our current slate of psychopathic leaders is dysfunctional.
We don’t seem to learn from history. Centralized power always leads to eventual abuse. Wars are expensive and would never occur absent the coercively derived resources of government. Replacing current leaders doesn’t provide a permanent solution when the problem is structural.
Hanlon’s Razor is an adage stating: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" Every political leader knows his job is to protect the people who voted him into office while improving their circumstances. It is not the system of governance that produces psychopathic leaders. Dictators can be benign and elected leaders can turn out to behave badly.
We need political leaders to get things done. If you don't approve of their decisions, help them correct their mistakes. After all, politics is not a spectator sport>
The uncritical application of Hanlon's Razor despite overwhelming evidence of organization, repeated patterns and intent is often used as a shield masking those that act out of malice. Or perhaps more accurately replace malice with self interest untempered by any moral or ethical boundaries.
I propose the inverse as a balance in analyzing.
Reverse Hanlon's Razor:
Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.
→ Assume bad intent or deliberate harm when incompetence doesn't adequately explain repeated patterns, especially in powerful institutions, bureaucracies, politics, or when actions consistently benefit the actor at others' expense.
People invoke the reverse version in situations where they suspect systemic self-interest, corruption, or repeated harmful behavior (e.g., "In politics/big tech/government, incompetence alone doesn't cut it anymore").
Both razors are just heuristics—not ironclad rules—and the useful approach is often to consider both possibilities and look at evidence/patterns rather than defaulting to one.
Good points, all. Note, however, that deliberate evil and inadvertent evil can have the same or similar consequences as noted in this remark. “Only ignorance! only ignorance! how can you talk about only ignorance? Don't you know that it is the worst thing in the world, next to wickedness? -- and which does the most mischief heaven only knows." - Black Beauty by Anna Sewell
The conversation continues, "If people can say, 'Oh! I did not know, I did not mean any harm,' they think it is all right. I suppose Martha Mulwash did not mean to kill that baby when she dosed it with Dalby and soothing syrups; but she did kill it, and was tried for manslaughter."
"And serve her right, too," said Tom. "A woman should not undertake to nurse a tender little child without knowing what is good and what is bad for it."
In my view, it is a mistake to speculate about what motivates political leaders. It is said that Davy Crockett had a motto—”Be sure you’re right, then go ahead.” He was elected to Congress three times and defeated twice. We have no way of knowing how much of what was written about Crockett since then is true any more than we can forecast the consequences of Donald Trumps political decisions.
Note that Crockett and Trump have this in common: "Crockett emerges from his own story as...an engaging, if somewhat windy, storyteller... and a man of scant humility. (He announced that he was perfectly willing to be President, if anybody wanted him.)" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1955/09/03/be-sure-youre-right-then-go-ahead
David, I appreciate the civility in your response, though I think your position ends up obscuring more than it clarifies.
Saying it’s a “mistake to speculate about motivation” might sound prudent, but in practice it prevents us from distinguishing between systemic design and mere blunder. When harmful patterns consistently benefit the same actors, across multiple arenas, invoking “ignorance” ceases to explain much. At that scale, what looks like incompetence is usually the by‑product of structure, incentives, and psychology, not random accident.
Large institutions are built on compartmentalization — most participants only see their narrow task, not the larger effect. They don’t need to understand the plan; they just need a paycheck, prestige, or protection. Profit streams and career ladders condition compliance more effectively than any overt conspiracy. The “planners” set the rules of the game, while the “pawns” play sincerely within them; each layer believes it’s acting responsibly.
That’s why the reflexive use of Hanlon’s Razor no longer holds. It’s not that malice and ignorance are the same—it’s that the planners have learned to weaponize normal human psychology: fear of loss, need for belonging, ambition, risk aversion. They design incentive structures that make ordinary people perpetuate harmful outcomes while thinking they’re doing good. That’s not stupidity—that’s engineered compliance.
The claim that it’s futile or improper to explore motive effectively sterilizes political analysis. Power is always goal‑oriented. To say we can’t infer intent from repeated, self‑serving outcomes is to make genuine accountability impossible.
So while I share your concern about moral oversimplification, I’d argue the greater error is moral anesthesia: pretending coincidence explains what incentive and repetition make obvious.
Again, you make some excellent points. But you are discussing large institutional systems. I fail to see how exploring an individual's motives might make genuine accountability possible. To me, it seems like that's God's perogative.
In real world situations, actions are what bad actors are held accountable for; was the deed a genuine mistake or a deliberate choice? For a jury, the pattern of previous behaviors linked with outcomes determines the verdict.
As for our "manifestly corrupt, treacherous, homicidal, insane, weirdo rulers," we elected them hoping for the best.
Some thoughts from scripture:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,..
Note that DHS’s Office of Homeland Security Statistics reported that in FY 2023 ICE law‑enforcement officers were involved in 78 use‑of‑force incidents, of which 2 resulted in death, 9 in serious injury, and 19 in minor injury.
The Week’s running list notes that eight people have been fatally shot by “ICE or CBP agents” since Trump’s second inauguration (Jan 20, 2025)
By way of contrast, in Iran, "As of early 2026, at least several thousand protesters (on the order of 3,000–7,000 or more) were killed across Iran’s 2025–2026 protests, with some credible activist sources and leaks pointing to even higher totals, while the government admits only about 3,100 overall deaths from the unrest."
In a February 26, 2026 article, CNN quoted updated HRANA data that “at least 6,488 protesters were killed” and that the group was working to verify thousands more possible deaths, emphasizing that these are activist‑compiled figures which CNN cannot independently verify due to internet blackouts and access restrictions.
Re - ' Every political leader knows his job is to protect the people who voted him into office ...'
Don't forget they also need to satisfy their funders' objectives; and I suspect these take precedent until mere months before the next election. Is this Iran attack about nuclear processing or regime change - which do you think Trump's funders are interested in ?
You think Trump has need of funders? And do you think evildoers can be persuaded by threats to stop murdering people? Recognize this? Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience."
As I see it, God establishes just rulers. Unjust rulers establish themselves. It is up to us to discern the difference.
Trump needed funders, see below, they will want a return on their investment. He was funded by $1+ Billion by various routes.
Where the Money Came From
The "Trump machine" relied on a mix of traditional campaign funds and massive infusions from high-net-worth donors:
Official Campaign Committee: The "Donald J. Trump for President 2024" committee raised and spent approximately $390 million to $400 million.
Outside Groups (Super PACs): This is where the bulk of the heavy lifting occurred.
Make America Great Again Inc.: Spent over $320 million on advertising and operations.
America PAC (Elon Musk): Musk contributed an estimated $140 million to $200 million toward a massive ground game and "get out the vote" (GOTV) operations.
Preserve America PAC: Another major player that poured over $100 million into battleground state media.
In Trump's case, it is doubtful that investors can automatically expect political favors from a president who clearly states his agenda. They may have access so as to be able to provide information. A case in point was Trump's statement about CBD. In line with his aim to Make America Healthy Again he is quoted or paraphrased as calling CBD a “game changer” that could help “restore the body’s endocannabinoid system” for seniors and suggesting Medicare coverage for CBD.
Oddly enough, there’s no public record so far of named members of the President’s Make America Healthy Again Commission explicitly discussing the endocannabinoid system (ECS) in commission materials. Clearly, his policy advisors have not familiarized themselves with this information: https://www.wric.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/795302194/experts-sound-alarm-on-dangerous-omega-6-and-omega-3-imbalance-in-u-s-food-supply/
I asked Perplexity AI, Is there any discussion or mention of dietary modulation of the endocannabinoid system function in political discourse? Response: The only clear example in mainstream political discourse that ties diet and lifestyle to endocannabinoid system (ECS) function comes from Donald Trump’s recent CBD messaging; beyond that, policy talk about the ECS is almost entirely pharmacologic (cannabis, CBD), not nutritional.
In light of this narrative, that's really sad: https://www.ocl-journal.org/articles/ocl/full_html/2020/01/ocl190046s/ocl190046s.html
Psychologically, people, and by that I mean the average person often accurately described as sheep, want to believe that someone is coming to save them. In fact, they cannot fathom the possibility that the system may be rigged against them, or that their circumstances are unlikely to improve through conventional means.
They remain trapped in an endless cycle, believing that next time they will vote their way out of these problems. In reality, the same ruling establishment that creates these crises controls the mechanisms through which change is supposedly achieved, making genuine reform improbable.
With each passing year and each manufactured crisis, life in our country appears to decline, drifting further from the prosperity we enjoyed only twenty years ago. Yet many continue to trust mainstream media narratives, because the alternative, accepting that they may be largely powerless without decisive individual action, is too uncomfortable to confront. And most people are neither mentally nor physically prepared to take that kind of responsibility.
What really bothers me is that the Media, at least 94% of every form of worldwide media, is owned by the same group, the very group that is orchestrating or collective demise and who set up an island where they had their military abduct children to be raped and tortured in order to blackmail American politicians.
There is a better way forward that is detailed in The War Against Humanity by Anonymous Patriot. There is no secular solution to a spiritual problem, and someone did come two thousand years ago to save us. The problem is that people no longer believe His lessons still apply, and so Satan's dominion continues to expand.
As an Australian with an even worse government than your own, and no opposition, why is it that we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils?
We're still voting for a bunch of corrupt no hopers, with no vision and no dreams of anything better!
Americans are so gullible that the warmongers don’t even have to change the script. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Vietnam, the propaganda is unchanging .
When you love a woman you are blind and trust implicitly despite transgressions. When you love your country it's not the same. It's not a biological imperative hardwired into your cells and is subject to a different kind of manipulation. Still, I absolutely agree with your shock and disbelief of the absurdity of widespread government trust.
We are taught from birth to believe and put our trust in "the authorities." For example, that is why, despite mounds of readily available evidence early on (by March 2020) during the Covid scam/fraud/conspiracy that we were being lied to about everything and by everyone, the overwhelming majority of people believed in and went along with whatever "the authorities" said. BTW, "the authorities" includes elected officials, government organizations, the media, academia, and most sadly, the medical profession.
OK, you convince us. BUT who are the righteous few in govt. you do believe?
Passion sounds better than compulsion but it's not the same thing.
Addiction is compulsion, not passion.
Rhett Butler was passionate & could also say, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."