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Dan Star's avatar

Almost seems planned. Securing rooftops is the most basic security step.

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AMV's avatar

I believe it was planned. Check suspects bank account and those of his family! How could they not have the rooftops secure? Same as the attempted Assassination of trump! Well planned and no longer discussed. Why not? Who planned it? No real questions answered!

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Larry Kaifesh's avatar

This was obviously a planned event at the highest levels and bigger than we can imagine. Any elementary effort to secure that facility would have had an over watch to not only observe the entire crowd, but to also prevent anyone from gaining access to that invaluable real estate in regards to security! In the Marine Corps, we call it a Guardian Angel, and we needed one that day. In reality, that shooter was most certainly a distraction, the shot took place from much closer according to the acoustic analysis. https://larrykaifesh.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-a-great-american-patriot

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AMV's avatar

I agree. The shooter was a distraction from the sniper that got away. Sure he shot bullets, but we’ll be told he killed Kirk. So much bigger!

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David Rinker's avatar

Patsy like Oswald, will probably be killed. Very telling that he will not confess.

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Kelleigh Nelson's avatar

yes, the reported bank deposits to his roommate are telling.

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AMV's avatar

Kirk was murdered by a true sniper, not the suspect, but the public will be lied to as we always are!

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Mabel Parrilla's avatar

His uncle is Special ops. He recruits ROTC young men for a group called the Azov Battalian. They guard bio-labs in Ukraine. He is former special ops military and worked for the CIA during the anthrax break out. This was a team kill not this kid who is the patsy. Just my opinion. It's bigger than we can imagine. Blessings!

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Kelleigh Nelson's avatar

We don't know that...the 143 yd shot was an easy one to make if you have a scope. But there are many variable questions that just absolutely DO NOT make sense. So, you could be right.

This doesn't make sense at all!

Here’s the official narrative, as far as I can piece together from what has been stated in the news:

1) he walks with a limp in surveillance video as he’s going TO the event (presumably hiding the rifle in his pants leg, NOT carrying it disassembled within his backpack).

2) But then, once he is AT the shooting, and actually AFTER shooting (when adrenaline is high and the need to escape is urgent), he takes the time to break the gun down and put the pieces into his backpack so that he can jump off the roof, as seen in surveillance video. Remember: he couldn’t carry it disassembled TO the event and instead had it in his pant leg, causing him to walk awkwardly.

3) Then, he takes even more time (after jumping off the roof) and re-assembles the weapon, leaving it assembled in one piece in a towel in the woods.

Hmmm. Sometimes these IC actors are so stupid and sloppy. But they’ve been doing it for decades and getting away with it.

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Bob Thebuilder's avatar

The video of Robinson jumping down from the roof shows him holding it in his right hand, fully assembled.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I think we can all agree that this situation is fishy and we have QUESTIONS.

Well, if we don’t answer those questions and simply ACCEPT what they tell us, we FALL for what they want us to believe.

That’s the key piece in these events which I discuss in fake false flags: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/false-flags-and-fake-false-flags

We all know this was PROFESSIONAL — if it was real at all. So any “real” shooter was planned and any “death” may have been planned as well

That’s the thing with the psyops. It’s not about the incident actually occurring — it’s about how the people react. That’s the key here.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Maybe this guy is full of sh!t. Maybe he's on to something. But there's no "maybe" about him raising questions, introducing background about the assassin that hasn't been shared in a lot of places. That touch on an important aspect that I had already keyed in on, which is why someone with a top ACT score, had a full-ride scholarship to a university would drop out after one semester to go to a small technical school and enroll in an electrical apprenticeship program to learn how to wire doorbells? It doesn't make sense. The fully assembled gun in a towel with inscribed bullets predictably inflammatory to Charlie Kirk supporters, the current news conservative news cycle focused on transtifa violence? Too perfect. A color-by-numbers offical narrative neatly laid out for public consumption? Raises questions to the intellectually curious, doesn't answer them. And he was more than familiar with weapons training than just hunting game. Though he reportedly boasted about dropping a deer at 450 yards to other students when discussion turned to guns.

Connections to Thomas Crook? Ukrainian mercenary training? Other paramilitary training? Father's military special ops service, DOD, Pentagon, Ukraine experience?

(Robinson's father's (Mike's) background experience, LinkedIn profile introduced at 09:43 timestamp. Special Ops, Radio Free Ukraine, CDC Infectious Disease Surveillance, soooo much more than a local cop):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gkDLBV6T3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO74tgOE3xg

More of this channel's content:

https://www.youtube.com/@RealGeorgeWebb1/streams

Take it for what it's worth, a guy on the internet sharing a theory and information that may or may not be truthful. But it sure does sound more than plausible and answers a lot of the questions that the official story emerging fails to do, has contradictions in. We KNOW we've not been told the truth, the official story doesn't add up. Is too neat and tidy, the bullet casings, all of it too perfect for the intended Charlie Kirk supporter audience. Too orchestrated. Just use your own common sense and discernment. Maybe it rings true to you? Mostly true? Partly true? Just expose yourself to it and make up your own mind.

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Mabel Parrilla's avatar

I read George Webb's take on this and it all sounds very plausable. I think this was a professional hit. I agree with his take on it.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Way more plausible than official narrative. Doesn't mean it's necessarily true, at least not everything in it. But it rings more true that what we're getting. And what we know as common sense is the tried and true path to truth.

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CB's avatar
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I watched the opening minutes of the first George Webb video, then stopped to ask Brave's AI about Robinson's father Mike. Robinson's father is Matt. I then asked if Robinson is related to Mike? Answer, no. Have any members of Robinson's family served in Ukraine? No.

I briefly followed Webb years ago, but most of his theories never got validated. He opened this video by comparing Robinson to Crooks and Oswald. Crooks' family never said a word, while Robinson's family turned him in. Oswald was involved in top secret military programs (U-2 and the fake defection to Russia), spoke Russian like a native even before he met Marina, had a CIA file dating to 1958, and later had all his mail opened by an underling to CIA spymaster James Jesus Angleton. Then his name was removed from a list of suspicion characters just before the JFK hit. Any comparison of Robinson to Oswald at this point seems far-fetched.

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Larry Kaifesh's avatar

This was obviously a planned event at the highest levels and bigger than we can imagine. Any elementary effort to secure that facility would have had an over watch to not only observe the entire crowd, but to also prevent anyone from gaining access to that invaluable real estate in regards to security! In the Marine Corps, we call it a Guardian Angel, and we needed one that day. In reality, that shooter was most certainly a distraction, the shot took place from much closer according to the acoustic analysis. https://larrykaifesh.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-a-great-american-patriot

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Bob Thebuilder's avatar

Hollywood loves hitmen. Reality, not so much. It's never a hitman.

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AMV's avatar

Apparently I’ve heard that particular type of gun was not quickly broken down. Same for reassembly. This is why I believe the suspect is not the sniper. Just my opinion. I’m not hearing he had the ability either!

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Larry Kaifesh's avatar

This was obviously a planned event at the highest levels and bigger than we can imagine. Any elementary effort to secure that facility would have had an over watch to not only observe the entire crowd, but to also prevent anyone from gaining access to that invaluable real estate in regards to security! In the Marine Corps, we call it a Guardian Angel, and we needed one that day. In reality, that shooter was most certainly a distraction, the shot took place from much closer according to the acoustic analysis. https://larrykaifesh.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-a-great-american-patriot

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Mimi Del's avatar

*ALMOST*???

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Questions I have. What was in the Back Pack? Why did he exit so he was video taped? Was it planned that they would see his exit route so they could not miss finding the rifle which he didn't have with him when he dropped down from the roof? How come his photos on the stairs didn't show him carrying a rifle up to the roof? Who elsd was video tapped on the stairs? How about before dawn? Seems it is too pat of circumstances with planted evidence to prove once again a lone gunman theory. They should put him under hypnosis and see if he would reveal all. Maybe truth serum? Did a parrafin test demonstrate he fired a rifle? Have they confirmed he went to a rifle range to sharpen his skills. Too many questione unanswered.

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AMV's avatar

I agree Thomas. Non of the questions were answered after the Butler attempted assassination of Trump. I believe these killers were hired. Have they checked bank accounts or large purchases by suspect or his family? I believe these suspects are used as patsies. Venerable people already marginalized! The fact that rooftops are not secured makes no sense. Why not! Trump is a target and so was Kirk! Basic security didn’t happen!

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

Hi Thomas - not sure if you read this substack from 2nd Smartest Guy in the World, from yesterday. Pay particular attention to the article he references from the NY Post, about Robinson's shooting skills...https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/charlie-kirk-was-assassinated-by?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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David Rinker's avatar

He could have easily used the walkway bridge, left the rifle behind, blended in with the crowd.

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Larry Kaifesh's avatar

Good questions! This was obviously a planned event at the highest levels and bigger than we can imagine. Any elementary effort to secure that facility would have had an over watch to not only observe the entire crowd, but to also prevent anyone from gaining access to that invaluable real estate in regards to security! In the Marine Corps, we call it a Guardian Angel, and we needed one that day. In reality, that shooter was most certainly a distraction, the shot took place from much closer according to the acoustic analysis. https://larrykaifesh.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-a-great-american-patriot

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RSgva's avatar

And did he ever practice before? Surely they have video camera going way back on the stairs..

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Mark Brody's avatar

By "incomprehensible" I believe you mean "suspicious". I would certainly agree with this if this is your underlying message. In light of the still fairly recent Butler, PA events, it is extremely strange that no basic precautions were taken for a man who was aware he was a target for left wing violence.

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J.J. von Pepe's avatar

Charlie didn't want extra security according to an article I read a few days ago which I believe was either on Daily Mail or NY Post. It claimed that Charlie Kirk was warned that there was a 100% chance that there would be an attempt on his life and that they would take a headshot. He was warned that much greater security measures were needed. One suggestion was a bulletproof barrier between Kirk & his audience as well as securing the facilities. After this warning, no additional actions were taken & the advisor didn't hear back from Kirk about it.

Separately, Bannon said that Kirk didn't want anything to interfere with his ability to interact with people. I understand why Kirk did this but I wish it had been different.

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Lindsay.'s avatar

I also wish it had been different. His children are now growing up without a father. I can't imagine how hard this must be for Erika. He spoke repeatedly about the importance of a present father. It is devastating.

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Kathryn's avatar

But not about all the school children dead from shooters who he accepted as “necessary to allow us to have guns.”

No.

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Mark Brody's avatar

If true, this was a tragic error. His wish to connect with others became his vulnerability. In retrospect, it seems naive. If accurate, it is a measure of the authenticity of his beliefs.

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Manuela's avatar

Agree COMPLETELY. 💯

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Gerry Vander-Lyn's avatar

The word for me is not nagging but haunting. Butler left me bewildered. How could they not secure the roof? This time I am not bewildered. Something sinister is happening. Part of the problem is that we do not believe that "it" can happen here. The holocaust can't happen here. Assassinations can't happen in a quiet place like Utah. The corollary is the notion that we can still trust institutions and professions like we always have. The "we" need to work hard at eradicating both those thoughts from our corporate psyche.

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James Dawson's avatar

The reason they didn’t secure the roof is the same reason they hosed it down afterward.

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Steve. S's avatar

True, but so hard for decent people to understand such evil!

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Larry Arnold's avatar

It was not a radicalized lone wolf shooter as the folks in the government, who have, and continue to lie to us, are asking you to believe. There were too many pre and post shooting activities that could not have been carried out by the accused suspect. Ask who or what organization or ideology stood to gain.

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Mtngr1's avatar

Yes, what kind of security team are they, that they aren't thinking of securing roof tops withing 200 yards. Not that difficult? They could have used a drone, to ck the roof tops.

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Justin. Hart's avatar

It is a Question that only the “ security guard who was in charge can answer !” Because in recent American history the shooter of our political leaders has historically been on a roof or in a high place ( building in Dallas) Motel Roof in MLK shooting , Butler Pennsylvania . I would have made sure the rooftops within a line of reasonable sight were either unable to be accessed or watched for activity . That’s me .

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Steve. S's avatar

As always, the buck should stop at the top.

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Mtngr1's avatar

Yes, it seems such a basic thing to do.

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Mtngr1's avatar

Yes, it seems such a basic thing to do.

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Bob Shapton's avatar

Cui bono? Deep state eliminating future threat?

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

In the aftermath of this shooting from a rooftop the public sees surveillance footage of the alleged shooter jumping off of the roof, however where is the video footage of the alleged shooter going on to the roof? Also, the video footage of the shooter jumping off of the roof is grainy and could possibly have been an AI generated video!

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4hEdited

Also, the 2 security guards behind Charlie clearly appear to use hand signals right before the shooting. Former FBI and DEA agent Jeffrey Prather believes these guys were spotting for the shooter. Is anyone going to interrogate these and any other secunity officers? I believe the old man in the crowd who claimed to be the shooter was also high profile on 911, 2001.

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RSgva's avatar

Have they even been identified by anybody?

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

This whole thing stinks to high heavens! I don’t know what type of security Charlie had….but it appears….they were working against him…not for him!

Surely anyone who is trained in security…to protect someone… would have covered all the possibilities and avenues of attack!

If it was government security…I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them!

Whoever was covering Charlie… was not doing a good job! Very negligent…very dumb…lacking insight and knowledge of possibilities…no foresight!

Charlie wasn’t working with a short supply of funds to hire the best security! I don’t get it! Someone was very negligent….sloppy security! Or it was all planned…. unbeknown to Charlie!

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Mike Ward's avatar

The only thing that seems to ring 'plausible' to me, is that Charlie made some very powerful enemies of late; and as I initially suspected would be the case, this guy is a patsy.

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David DeFina's avatar

I think it was an organized hit meant to push us closer to civil war. I don’t believe the kid they caught was the shooter (he was lured there and had no visible rifle before or after the shooting)— the shot came from a sniper somewhere else (my conspiracy theory, but I’m certain I’m right). Same deal with the Trump shooting — fired from another building, then the patsy gets dropped by a sharpshooter. Clean, with no investigation, deep state MO IMO.   

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Sergie's avatar

The roof in Butler was 100% insider job, no two ways about it. As for Charlie's security - or absence thereof, it just might be that it was THAT sloppy, although the shooter would have to know in advance for a fact that it would actually be that sloppy.

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David Rinker's avatar

Secret Service was in the room under Crooks. Heard him on the roof above them.

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Dave Campbell's avatar

me too. who in authority will venture to answer that nagging question?

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Steve. S's avatar

It shouldn't have mattered that much what Charlie Kirk wanted. A missed shot could have killed other people, so could a stampede. Security theses days is about public safety!

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

Yeah, interesting; but no source cited. The post mentions "Axios," but at this time there is NOTHING on the Axios website about this.

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Pond23's avatar

Did you check out Jonathan Gregory?

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