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RoseMartyn's avatar

Am I wrong to be so disappointed? My doctor, or any of them in my town, have plenty of justification to push these things on me and treat me badly when I don’t comply.

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John Day MD's avatar

Many of the people who got the 1976 swine-flu shot got very sick and there were enough deaths that it was made optional just before I started college that August, having been required for admission, but I was determined to avoid it. It was withdrawn shortly after that.

This is the one that started the stories of "I got the flu shot and it gave me the flu".

You might tell them, "You can have mine, thank you".

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RoseMartyn's avatar

In a small town, you have to be very very careful, otherwise they “get” you later when you need something. It really is like dealing with mafia.

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John Day MD's avatar

Yes, I've lived in small towns. You are right.

Don't speed, either.

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Pamela Z's avatar

@Rose, time for you to get new doctors! Never let anyone push you around!

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RoseMartyn's avatar

So far what they respond best from is when I mention my niece ( teaches medical school) and nephew ( pathologist in large urban hospital) have suggested that the following ……. Blaugh blaugh blaugh might be looked into, and then they follow my lead. Honestly what a bunch of sheep.

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Eleftherios Gkioulekas's avatar

I tell mine I never take the flu shot and never had anything other than sniffles. I may have had the initial SARS that knocked me out for two weeks, and something else in 2018 that knocked me out for two days that might have been viral. Other than bacterial infections, I just never had anything else other than sniffles.

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Cyndie's avatar

Tell them they can have yours and tell them they're an indoctrinated sheep and have no critical thing skills!!! Remember that you're paying them. We the working class has forgotten that!!

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RoseMartyn's avatar

Good idea! That’s exactly what I would tell the mafia soldier coming by for his “juice” payment. (Not)

Of course we the working class are paying them. And need to stand up. We paid for the entire Covid debacle whether we wanted to or not. We paid to be poisoned! What the working class needs to wake up about is the depth of corruption in this country. Two things would help for starters. 1) a constitutional amendment regarding congressional term limits and 2) the outrageous ability for PACs to buy candidates.

Removing the part of the big beautiful bill that bans the states from being able to overide federal regulations on AI for 10 years is an absolute must.

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Susan P ...'s avatar

ALL vaccines are toxic. In God we Trust ...

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Cyndie's avatar

Take your quality vitamins , Zinc, C, D, Magnesium , and B. , and they're are many things in nature that work amazingly well. get the book "THE FORGOTTON REMEDIES" . Also doterra essential oils do amazing things!!

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Karen Bracken's avatar

It becomes more obvious everyday that the American people were had. What happened to RFK Jr. saying REPEATEDLY that there is no vaccine that has been proven safe or effective? The flu shot is one of the worst. Not effective and not safe. Americans better wake up and refuse to inject any of their poisons into your body. RFK Jr. has been a real disappointment and the new ACIP has already proven to be controlled. Instead of Malone they should have selected McCullough.

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Cyndie's avatar

Right on!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Since when does anyone need any big pharma vaccines and mRNA poisons to live well and healthy? I guess I missed that memo, thank the Heavens.

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Prof Kylie O’Brien's avatar

I suspect that this committee are either captured or don’t have the guts to go against Big P. Poor decision.

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Dee Dee's avatar

hope more and more people just flat out refuse

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Annie's avatar

Don't care what they do or don't recommend. I and mine will never trust the medical establishment, dental establishment, veterinary establishment, big Harma and Big Ag again. We will not support anything they got to say or sell. So if you still watch msm news, believe your compromised medical "professionals," I got no sympathy for you. The truth is out there. Trust in God and get your head out of the hole it's stuck in.

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Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Thank you for reporting on this. Glad to see the vote on thimerosal, flummoxed to see the recommendation of the flu jabs. Translation: Glad to see some important progress, OK so I'm not expecting an end to the stream junk-jabs and cons.

After covid my trust in "medical authorities" fell so far down it came out on the other side of the world in China. And I don't even entirely trust the Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioners, either.

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Jo Thompson's avatar

I won't be participating in the flu shot ... I used to sick... with the flu that would last a week... each year after receiving it. I haven't had the flu in the 6 years since I stopped getting the shot.

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Pamela Z's avatar

@Jo, I had one flu shot 30 years ago and got the flu. My doctor gaslit me. Never had another shot and have never had the flu again.

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Mark Brody's avatar

It is almost inconceivable that RFK Jr. and the ACIP committee are unaware of the science around the flu vaccine, the COVID-19 vaccine, the RSV vaccine, and indeed all vaccines under their purview. For this reason, I have a strong hunch that the committee, and indeed all of government - the bureaucracy, the regulatory agencies, and even the cabinet -- are under the thumb of powerful forces that wish to clandestinely control their actions. They do this by limiting their sphere of operability, giving the illusion of autonomy, when in fact their autonomy is greatly circumscribed. Is this a conspiracy theory? Of course it is! If it weren't it would be completely without value. As we have learned over the past year, conspiracies are like weeds, growing everywhere. Are they all true? No. But many are, or are at least partially true.

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John Day MD's avatar

They are all far more constrained by established powers and interests, which kill people when they need to, than we are made aware of.

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Mothertrucker's avatar

I’m beginning to wonder who wrote RFK’s Fauci book?

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Mark Brody's avatar

He's free to write what he wants. When he was at CHD, he was a free agent and had help from others affiliated with CHD. Now that he's working for the government,

he's subject to the same rules others in government are: blackmail, bullying, and bribery. I doubt he would take a bribe, but when one looks at one happened to his

father and uncle, he can't wonder whether he is untouchable or not.

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Gabriella's avatar

I don’t read Malone’s Substack very often, but hasn’t he said somewhere that he would not get anymore shots for himself.

The fact that he is endorsing flu shots and now voted yes to approve RSV confirms my gut instinct to not trust this fake health freedom advocate.

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Mark Brody's avatar

Of course, one should never trust anyone in government. The whole government is a criminocracy. That being said, I think there are some good people who are doing the best they can, even though they are not free to do 1/4 of what they would like to do.

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sandy's avatar

He owns patents related to vaccines.

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Billy Andrew's avatar

New sellout management, but the same problems.

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Donna C's avatar

Good thing my doctor doesn’t push shots on me. She’s a keeper.

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Steveo's avatar

Double speak. Get rid of red dye but not others. Illusions, like witchcraft.

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DK's avatar

It’s interesting that you don’t hear it called Antibody Dependent Enhancements ie increasing the likelihood of getting the infection of that you are trying to protect from.

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Vickie Crockett's avatar

So ya got that?

This study showed that the Flu vaccine resulted in 27% increase of flu, and 340% increase in other infections.......

So....it's good that the thiomerisol is not in the vaccine, but there's still increase in infection and no upside at all...

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Marcus's avatar

Flu vaccine for health persons? complete nuts, only in the US I guess.

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Chief Justice of Nuremberg 2.0's avatar

Why is there only 2 restacks of this. You people in the alternative media are absolute retards. Every adjuvant has already been covered by the Chief Justice of Nuremberg 2.0, years and decades ago. Going for the Juggler on Vaccine Adjuvants & Antigens; Vaccinology's "Dirty Secrets" is the Achilles' heel as Vaccines no longer require clinical trials. EUA ONLY! https://nuremberg2.substack.com/p/going-for-the-juggler-on-vaccine

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

What in the world was the point of firing the entire ACIP panel, if the replacement panel members go and do the same thing? Serving the vaccine cartel instead of the health of the American people. HHS Sec Kennedy should continue to fire the replacements as many times as necessary to get a panel that will prioritize health over fealty to the vaccine lobby. That’s why you were appointed, RFK Jr.

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