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Rita Skeeter's avatar

Yes, damage done, so we need to stop pushing all vaccines on kids in order to go to school.

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Daniel Mordue's avatar

I had all my shots when I was a kid. We had REAL vaccines, which work. I turned out all right with no side effects. I'm 64 now.

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Rita Skeeter's avatar

If you were female and had the measles shot, you would not have passed immunity to your newborn. Whereas if you had had measles, you would have conferred that protection to your vulnerable child. Your anecdote is not indicative of the overall picture.

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Kyndryl's avatar

Fantastic work.

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SaHiB's avatar

Was this a study involving the Amish? (In Israel?) Where were unvaccinated children found? DTP or polio vaccine seems to have done it to me and my sisters.

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Eli's avatar

They used the records from one of Israel's health service providers - Maccabi. Obviously includes vaxxed and non-vaxxed kids.

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SaHiB's avatar

I'm just amazed that many unvaccinated kids were in Israel. Not coerced or strongly encouraged like in the US, etc.? Palestinians, (c)hassidim were passed over? Does "unvaccinated" refer only to covid, or is it general?

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Eli's avatar
May 18Edited

Here it is only talking about the Covid vaccine - normal vaccination rates would be like any other western country.

Our first vaccine round was 16+ (if I remember correctly). The push for 12-16 was much weaker and the number who vaccinated <12 was small.

We had some advantages of being the "experimental country" in which the vaxxed found out very fast how the booster was needed, then the 2nd booster, so by the time it came to trying to vax the kids even the normies had questions - and the family unit here is tight - so the protective parent instinct did well to counter the narrative and pressures.

Our stats wouldn't include Palestinians.

Charedim were a special group - on the one hand they didn't have the covid panic - less internet - the big Rabbis didn't wear masks so "we" all took them off after the first vax round (was great). On the other hand the main Rabbis endorsed the vax - so it was religious pressure - accordingly many did vax their kids even... hard to know how many. I sort of don't believe official stats anymore for some reason :)

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

I would love to know what happened to the Palestinians. I would imagine that they would have been pretty sceptical about getting injected by people 82% of whom support the genocide of Gaza.

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Eli's avatar

Firstly, people in Israel want to be not attacked - no body "wants" genocide... Be careful not to take heated statements during a war as normal discourse.

As for your question, I believe Hamas and the WHO pushed the shots on them, not us of course.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

Israel attacked Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Libya and Iran in "self defence"

No one pays attention to the drivel of Hasbara any more. So many Jews are trying to leave "Israel" that they closed the border for local Jews. Israel and Ukraine are two faces of the same coin. Israel was designed to destabilise the Middle East. Ukraine was designed to destabilise Russia. Both efforts are failing.

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Eli's avatar

Great write up! One more highlight you might want to consider adding:

"Similarly, our study revealed a considerably higher incidence of new autoimmune disease diagnoses among vaccinated pediatric subjects as compared to their unvaccinated counterparts, representing a nearly 40% increased risk during the study period from January 2020 to December 2023."

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Randall Stoehr's avatar

Keep the pressure on MAX!

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Phyllis's avatar

Would you be able to list the most prevalent autoimmune diseases they are seeing?

Is there a study that suggests autoimmune issues in unvaccinated adults from shedding of others who were vaccinated?

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Martha's avatar

You think a difference of 0.9% vs 1.1% is clinically significant? An absolute risk difference of 0.21%? They also didn’t collect data on MISC requiring hospitalization, a devastating autoimmune complication of COVID infection that I personally treated, biasing toward finding a signal for association of vaccines and autoimmune diseases vs infection. Furthermore, their conclusions include the fact that the vaccine is safe and effective in children. Real epidemiologists don’t post misleading shit like this.

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Emma Hood's avatar

I’m trying to understand why a self published study that looks like it was written by Ai is considered reliable research. For those that do not know the process, in order for a study to be considered valid, it would need to go through a peer review. There are many studies that deal with this subject and are peer reviewed and published. I encouraged anyone interested in this subject to keep learning.

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Eli's avatar

Written by the Health Providers that pushed the vax. Their conclusion is that there is a clear statistical signal but since the numbers are small the overall benefit of the vax for kids (of course not substantiated) is still worth it.

Limited Hangout - as always.

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Kerin M's avatar

Rumble does not have a reputation for being a source of scientifically verified or fact-checked information. You need to research on reputable scientific based websites to get factual information before you put something up here that people will think is real. Vaccines save lives! mRNA has been studied for years, and has saved millions of people.

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Glenn Thistlethwaite's avatar

Unforgivable

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Chris's avatar

There is likely a connection between all vaccines and autoimmune disease. Big pharma wants you sick, so they can sell you the cure.

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Dee Dee's avatar

The trust is gone...forever.

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Turtle's avatar

Attention: in the City called Cunha Porto in Santa Catarina, southern state of Brazil, a parents who didn't vaccinate their 1 year and 2 months kid with C19 one, had their civil rights assalted, having their passports and driving license canceled by state justice office. It happened this week, after the parents having denied the vaccines even being coerced by justice office and Police going their house tryng to apart the kid to bring to vaccinate coercively. The state deputy Julia Zanatta in her SNS is reporting and working for that.

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Kerin M's avatar

Prove it!

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Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

The proof of autoimmunity is in the normal immune response to normal body cells making the proteins coded for by the injected mRNA. Cytotoxic T-cells will destroy those cells. That is a fact. That is autoimmunity by definition. It will always happen after injected mRNA, no matter what the protein it codes for. We cannot predict what tissues will be affected, nor the degree of damage. Some proteins do get made and released, pushing autoimmune reactions even futher.

https://rumble.com/v60mxut-autoimmunity-and-mrna-shots.html

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Kerin M's avatar

Rumble.com is not a reliable or accurate scientific source for any factual answers on anything.

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