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Timothy Burchett's avatar

I don't like the title... it implies that one is less culpable than the other when in truth, the death injection of the same technology have equal implications in all the mRna death shots.

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Nicolas Hulscher, MPH's avatar

Yes, both are very dangerous. I'm simply reporting on the study's main finding.

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Timothy Burchett's avatar

I'm not criticizing you by any means. Simply pointing out facts... you can take mRna out of one vial named Pfizer &;put it into another and there would be little difference.

I hope we move foward as to discuss into more detail the most dangerous threat coming at us, the self amplifying mRna. Everything from chimeric viruses to shedding the actual injection... looking foward to your deep in depth analisys.. thanks for all your doing..

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Liberty's avatar

And what about studying the mRNA that they are injecting in our Foods?

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Jeffrey Pitts's avatar

Yup. Where’s the control group?

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lawrence greenberg's avatar

I was thinking the same thing.

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Billy Andrew's avatar

Exactly!

Different studies show different results, which indicates we are still at the opening stage of understanding and results will vary, always, dependent upon the cohorts chosen with regards to age, gender, (Yes, that is a contributing factor, as is skin colour, for which RFK Jr was labelled a racist for pointing this out, but we only have to look at sickle cell disease to see it bears out, scientifically) immune response and a hundred and one other permutations.

Sadly, however, the recipients of the shots are on severely short and borrowed time, so likely will not be around for long term studies that can show given outcomes, other than their demise.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Well- unfortunately the pediatric vaccine schedule is giving them … so the damage is far from over

I’ve heard of three babies with a brain tumor in just the last month

That’s not normal.

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SaHiB's avatar

Wellp, drug responses should be studied stratified by sex (gender effect is fairly minor, but apparently not nonexistent), age, and ethnicity. My responses to drugs differ even from siblings. (Not gonna get any more vaccines, so can't entirely say on that. And also won't take any drugs whose effects are not already well studied, with a well-established history.)

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Truthseeker's avatar

Cytochrome P450 genes control drug responses by people… if you have these mutations… These mutations can affect how drugs are metabolized, leading to differences in how individuals respond to medications.

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Tom Haviland's avatar

Another reason why the Pfizer vaccine might be more deadly than the Moderna vaccine may be some of the hidden "Operational Reading Frames (ORFs)" that are present in the Pfizer vaccine, but not present in the Moderna vaccine. In addition to ORF-11 associated with the "spike protein" in the Pfizer vaccine, there appears to be a "mystery ORF" also known as ORF-19 in the Pfizer vaccine.

Decades of bioweapons research by the Soviets, Chinese, and Americans have developed nefarious ORFs that code for proteins that promote blood clotting, help viruses replicate faster, and help viruses evade the immune system. These nefarious ORFs could have inadvertently or intentionally been translated into the Pfizer vaccine. This is speculation at this point, but this issue needs to be looked into more closely.

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Renee Morris's avatar

Tom, thank you for your service to our country then, and most especially now since the Plandemic began. People are waking up, and you’ve played a critical role. Thank you for your courage and conviction to continually go above and beyond.

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Tom Haviland's avatar

My pleasure, Renee. And Dr. Peter McCullough and Nicolas Hulscher have played a critical roll in exposing the many dangers of the jabs. My "hats off" to them!

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Renee Morris's avatar

Absolutely!

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Patrick Frank's avatar

"Unfortunately, without an unvaccinated group, the study cannot determine the absolute increase in mortality risk attributable to mRNA vaccination itself"

A baseline population should be available in matched 2018-2019 all-cause-mortality statistics of Florida; or indeed any matched cohort of untreated Americans.

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Valerie Leger's avatar

Would control group requirement not to have had Covid.

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Janice's avatar

IF we assume that Covid is now endemic in most of- or all of ?- the world's population, then perhaps we can simplify membership in the control group to, "those who have never received the Covid vaccination".

Otherwise, I think that we are left with determining some high-accuracy diagnostic test to determine and define, whether someone has had Covid or not:

because we will assume that they have been exposed, and that those who say that they have not had Covid may simply have extraordinary immune systems - "never been sick a day in my life". Or those who had a light case, and took it for just another respiratory illness.

( I do not rule out Covid Aftermath deleterious health issues for those of us in this last category.) The battle continues.

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Patrick Frank's avatar

Good question. The answer depends on whether members of the mRNA-treated groups also contracted Covid. We know the mRNA product did not confer long-term immunity.

The authors of the study know its details. They would be the people to determine the parameters of a valid control group derived from the general population. Doing so should not have been difficult.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

This information has been pouring out. You would think that there'd be a large group of the injured or family members of the deceased, marching on Washington with tar and feathers. Where's the outrage?

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Valerie Leger's avatar

Pre occupied with pro-nouns🙄

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Cindy Weidner's avatar

Are their controls for the batches? We know certain batches have immensely more severe effects than others.

Additionally, are there controls for blood types? We know blood type A was much more susceptible to harm from the virus than other blood types.

Fine tuning …

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Billy Andrew's avatar

They were being knocked up in warehouses, no hermetic precautions taken, by folk unqualified to be involved.

I remember laughing aloud, upon seeing the expose, it was so shambolically ludicrous.

I mentally labelled them the Warehouses of Death.

Uncharitably, I'm chuckling, as I type this. 😂😂😂

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David O'Halloran's avatar

The covid 19 vaccine hoax - a true life horror story that just keep getting worse and worse. We tried to tell them. They would not listen and cancelled us for our efforts.

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Dr. Bryan's avatar

Why wasn't there an unvaccinated cohort? My understanding is that this would have been possible since roughly 20% of the population remained unvaccinated, and would have provided a critically important comparison.

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Aquila's avatar

Great article. It's interesting to see deaths described as relative risk and deaths per 100,000 - the human impact gets somewhat lost in the stats. I think it would be good to see the numbers of deaths - i.e. the number of people who were killed by this government experimental injection operation. These were real people. They were killed. By .gov

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Billy Andrew's avatar

As of August, last year, an extremely conservative estimate of 31 million excess deaths was put forward for victims, worldwide, however, evasive govts and organisationsl, as we've witnessed, will lie though their teeth.

As for those seriously injured, you'd be as well just snatching a high figure out of thin air and you might be higher or lower, we'll never know, just as we didn't with those supposedly killed by the virus, numbers stolen right, left and centre to bolster the false narrative, in order to mandate the death shots.

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exexpat's avatar

Am i glad to live in Cambodia.

I'm lucky with 2 chinese destilled battery water and a slight encounter without needle penetration of moderna. My chances are much better i die caused by a motorcycle accident in kambodia than suffering for the benefit of the pharma industry. Be aware that your next passport will incl. a WHO clearance of every vaxx without they don't let u travel.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

It is time for life insurance companies to collect data on vaccination status and adjust insurance premiums accordingly. I am sorry for people who were misled into taking these so-called vaccines. You deserve compensation from the fraudsters that did this to you. But we who did not take the vaccines should not see our insurance premiums rise to cover the increased payouts being faced by insurance companies.

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Billy Andrew's avatar

Odd you should say that, as I recall, late '23, early last year, reading an article about the insurance companies preparing a class action against big Pharma.

It had entirely slipped my mind, until reading your comment.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

Thanks for giving me the heads up about that class action. i knew nothing about it. Of course, it is not something the MSM media would give airspace to because, after all, insurance companies would not do that unless they had evidence to back their case.

And publicising that might cause more people to want to get on board . . .

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Terry Anderson's avatar

This contradicts the Czech data, which showed Moderna was 40% higher than Pfizer. Interesting.

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TDoug's avatar

Yes, that is what Steve Kirsch said. It's possible different countries got different batches.

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FLR's avatar

Does Moderna have the same "bad batch"/ "placebo" distribution? I only recall seeing figures for Pfizer and recall data from Denmark.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Let's cut to the bottom line. Taking any drug, vaccine or mRNA poisons significantly improves your risk of bodily harm, injury and death. You can trust no big pharma products. They ALL in some way interfere with your natural inner bodily workings. They destroy health or at the least disrupt your body's innate ability to cure itself.

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NB's avatar

seems a bit weird since the Moderna has 4x more spike protein or apike manufacturing ability? Also did you get everyone's batch code? One bad batch in the data set will throw it all off. I have put peoples' cards into www.howbadismybatch.com and for sure it is accurate since they told me which jab screwed them up. So that's a huge factor as you need to use data sets and age groups with similar adverse reactions to batches.

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NB's avatar

ya we really need the unvaccinated data. can't it be found somewhere else?

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Amy Harlib's avatar

It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back! And toxic injections/pills were/are a huge part of their arsenal!

MISTAKES WERE NOT MADE! THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough!

Peddling pure poison! Folks have to wake up to reality: health comes from organic diet, daily exercise and clean living and never from a needle or a pill except in dire, rare traumatic injuries.

Proudly ANTI-VAXX! Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.

Ban all vaccine jabs! There has never been a 'safe and effective' vaccine since Edward Jenner's fraud over 200 years ago as per 'Dissolving Illusions' by Suzanne Humphries and 'Turtles All the Way Down' by Anonymous. Health can never come from a needle or pills, but from healthy eating, healthy exercise and healthy living! virustruth.net

CREATIVITY! ARTISTRY! IMAGINATION! SPIRITUALITY! HUMOR! LOVING KINDNESS! These are the best ways to fight THEM!

I also have a landline, a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, and I never had or will have those infernal mobile devices designed to enslave you. I also use cash as much as possible, no cash is TOTAL SLAVERY.

It is heartbreaking to witness the holocausts happening and so many fellow citizens are brainwashed/bamboozled by the propaganda media, they are oblivious!

This horrifying Gates, Governor 'Gruesome Newscum', 'Lone Scum', Soros, 'Benedict' Biden and Harris and even Trump, Vance, and 'Ramaswampy' et al are blatant fully owned and operated puppets of their globalist technocrat parasite masters same as other numerous 'PUBLIC SERPENTS' infesting by design from above, the bureaucratic apparatus.

Can't say this often enough! The Military/Industrial Complex and the Biowarfare/industrial Complex, WEF agenda and the evils assaulting humanity are from one and the same source - it is the 99% against the diabolical GREED of the 0.01% who should not be in charge of anything!

The monsters in human skin suits who rule the world get a sadistic vampiric thrill and boost from perpetrating the vilest most demonic crimes against the most vulnerable (babies and small children) and then corrupting the system to get away with it scot free! We the People must stop them, there are a lot more of us than them!

Please check out this substack! ponerology.substack.com

JAB INJURIES: GROSS CALAMARI BLOOD CLOTS/AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.

And BIG pHARMa is an arsenal making permanently sickly addicted slaves dependent on their products - the complete opposite of actual health.

Can't say this often enough!

SCREW THE HYPOCHONDRIA GERMAPHOBIC FEAR HYSTERIA! DO NOT CONSENT! Avian flu is for the birds! RESIST!

KEEP FIGHTING! All the perps who pushed this greatest crime against humanity, all the way down to the local level, must get their comeuppances!

Divide and rule! Agents provocateurs anyone, FALSE FLAGS, propaganda social engineering psyops? Keeping us proles at each others' throats while the globalist technocrat predators laugh all the way to the BIS and The Bank of Rothschild's!

BURN BACK BETTER!

HELL NO TO STARGATE! HELL NO TO DEEPSEEK! HELL NO TO AI! technocracy.news

Life everywhere is being assaulted by THE TECHNOCRATIC OMNIWAR! RESIST! DO NOT CONSENT TO ALL THINGS DIGITAL, 'SMART', AI, 5G, NO CASH - ALL OF IT! dhughes.substack.com Technocrat ruling class psychos get a sadistic thrill from their powers over life and death and hurting all who stand in their way and they need the resources worldwide to build their digital total slavery control grids (herd survivors into 15 minute city digital prisons)!

AI is designed to be anti-human/anti-life programmed by technocrat control freak psychos - garbage in = garbage out. Everyone got along just fine without all these absurd and downright satanic electronic gadgets that did not exist until recently. NOBODY NEEDS THIS AI CRAP!

PSYCHOPATHS! MEGALOMANIACS!

Bless and thank you for doing what you do.

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Billy Andrew's avatar

And if folk had one, then the other the next time, well, they've still shortened their lifespan. Smh.

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