My colleague from the NYS governor's press corps worked for NPR at the time of the Pentagon crash and was one of the first people on the scene, arriving before the wall collapsed. I was able to interview him. He said that he was paged to go to the scene of an explosion inside of the Pentagon, not an airplane crash; and that when he arrived, he said it did not look like an airplane had crashed. So by this and other indications, there was no airplane; there is no photo of any recognizable wreckage on the ground. No jets or landing gear were recovered (they are titanium and will survive nearly any crash).
They’ve been lying to us for years; to push for NSA citizen surveillance by way of the “Patriot” Act and a pretext to start a proxy war on the so called Axis of evil (which is in reality Bush/Cheny/Mossy/Halliburton Execs). Building 7/Israeli art students/Dancing Israelis know….and we do too…
To explicitly tie Justin's comment to John's claim that this is "strange." No--Not strange--they've been lying.
Why did John come up with such a lame framing? It would have been far more straightforward to conclude "There's no way--it's simply not credible that this is the only footage."
That part of the Pentagon in the years prior went through extensive reinforcing. It would seem obvious that explosives were incorporated when that was going on, these operations are carried out with long lead times.
That is the stupidest thing I have read today, and that's saying something. If it was some explosion, whose remains (remember, they were identified as passengers) were recovered from the wreckage. You need to think through your embarrassingly hollow conspiracy theories.
Not true, i saw several photos of pieces of airframe wreckage outside of the pentagon on the lawn. I have to say however, the gatekeepers have done a very poor job of reporting on these events adequately which allow conspiracy theories to erupt like water poured on greek fire. It's almost like they want people to develop these alternate theories...
OK so I shall say to my readers — BREAKING NEWS, ARNOLD F SAYS HE SAW PHOTOS OF THE AIRFRAME. But he cannot produce them, so we have to take his world for it.
NPR? You have to be kidding. Not exactly a credible source. If there wasn't a plane, what happened to the people who boarded that flight? I know someone who was working for Rumsfeld at the time. He responded to a plane crashing into the Pentagon. Your entire story is ridiculous. You think magic was involved. Abracadabra.
By "dear friends" of course you mean the CIA. A creation of the Dulles brothers. Partners with Hitler's Banker Prescott Bush during WWII, a subsidiary of the Rockefellers and their one-world public-private partnership (Fascist) governing model. That created outposts for conducting US policy around the globe, including the very controversial one in the ME. Long a CIA-puppet, regime after regime, party affiliation of no importance, just there for the patina of democracy. Where leaders who try to break from their CIA puppetmasters get the Sharon treatment.
By "dear friends" of course you mean the Bush Crime Syndicate, which includes the capos and family loyalists with names like Cheney, McConnell, Roberts, Rove, Murdoch, Ford, Kristol, Kissinger, Rumsfield, et al.
Because it was an inside job, from top to bottom. Useful to transforming a free nation into a perpetual police surveillance state, shredding the US Constitution and imposing US hegemony across the globe. Necessary to pass the Anti-Constitutional "Patriot Act," repugnant to the Constitution, the name reflecting the adversary, not the protectee, declaration of war against patriotic, constitutionalist Americans.
And anyone who thinks that a puppet state wags the US master dog probably believes that Building Seven came down as a result of debris and vibrations from the buildings that collapsed next them because jet fuel burns so hot.
The Bush family name makes the name and actions of "Benedict Arnold" seem like a little fisticuffs between family. Traitors of extraordinary depraved evil to the United States of America. Enemies within. From Hitler's Banker to Communist China's "Best friends ever in the White House" they can be relied upon to fleece and destroy this once-great nation. Blood money has always been their ticket to fame and fortune. It's in their DNA.
Actually, although the whole thing was an inside job, the plane and its passengers were real. The goal was simply to start the war. People get excited by the idea that a missile hit, when the ugly, more boring reality is that a plane slammed into a building and killed everyone on board.
I don't think you understand what happened. Also, remains of all the passengers were recovered and identified. And you could see what remained of the aircraft from Army Navy Drive and Columbia Pike.
Those videos were all over local TV in DC and Virginia. From every conceivable viewpoint. For weeks. There also are multiple photographs, everyone in DC with a camera went out there and shot pictures.
I drove by there the next day. You could see the airliner outline. It was not a cruise missile. I know several people who worked there. None of them think it was anything but a Boeing 757. And I also know two people who had loved ones aboard that airplane. Where do you think the aircraft went if not into the Pentagon? And where do you think the passengers went?
I lived a mile from the Pentagon on that fateful day. I cannot comment on the training of the pilot nor the path that plane took, but I can verify its existence and the smoke spiraling up from that building as I crossed Chain Bridge. I can also attest to a very worried State Department worker who sat in his car, not knowing what to do - to go to the meeting we had or to return to the building.. The Emergency Manager, Mark Penn, had been appointed to that position September 10th. He did heroic work as did the first responders. The area the plane hit had just been renovated, so its structure was much sturdier than the remainder of the building. The fire risk was from the wood that traversed the roof of the building. The damage, in short, would have been much greater were it not for the strengthening construction that had just been completed. The "how" this was effected may never be known - and I question whether the airport would have had visual sight of the building given all the buildings in Crystal City. And it was an airplane - not a cruise missile. And there wasn't wreckage all over the ground because the plane penetrated the Pentagon with the tail sticking out. Have a large picture of that somewhere - 25 years later. Worked with emergency management and the community and then-Governor Warner's office (volunteer)b for three very long years.
This is old news but just like Lee Harvey and JFK, the entire 9/11 event is sus. The Pentagon is surrounded by cameras but only one video "survived"? More sus. I watched the video years ago and to my eye it was a missile. It clearly was not a large airplane. And if it was, where the hell is all the airplane debris??? It just magically vaporized the way the Twin Towers vaporized?
Like I said, "Sus!"
Really?! A huge 757 comes in at high speed just a few feet off the ground without pancaking into the earth and scattering airplane parts all over the Pentagon? Makes me feel stupid just wasting time talking about it.
I'm more concerned with the psyops that are happening right now. It's far from over.
I imagine several have. Anyone who believes otherwise hasn't even been paying attention.
Obviously, I can't prove it but I would not hesitate to put money that it was an Israeli missile. (Oops... someone is now going to call me anti-semitic. Of course, they will be a "Christian" Zionist.)
Well now, that is a rabbit hole most want to pretend does not exist. The simple answer is that 9/11 propelled the US military into the Middle East in service to Israeli ambitions. As regards the Pentagon, the section hit by the missile destroyed records of hundreds of trillions of dollars the Pentagon lost track of, much of which went to Israel. Trillions unaccounted for. Your tax dollar at work.
The ambition was to occupy Afghanistan and then use it as a base to topple Iran. But after 20 years(!) in Afghan, we had to turn tail and run just like in Vietnam. And big bad Iran is still there facing Israel. Oh my!
The official story of the strike on the Pentagon is so full of holes it's laughable. First of all, commercial jets are not designed to fly at speeds greater than 350 mph in the thick atmosphere at sea level. No way could a commercial jet fly at 500 mph at or near sea level, it would break apart!
Second, where are the pieces of the jet in the wreckage? Where are the jet engines, the wing sections, the tail section, the fuselage sections? Where are the passenger bodies (and blood!) and passenger luggage? The story is absurd.
Back in the 1990's after the pilots shut off the autopilot in preparation for landing, the 737 they were flying rolled upside down and flew into the ground in a wooded area near Pittsburgh at 300 mph. There was so much blood in the several acres of woods at the crash site, it was cordoned off as a health hazard. Body parts everywhere, cleanup workers would break down in tears as they worked thru the wreckage. I remember reading about a worker who said, "there was a hand with a ring on it." There was NONE OF THIS at the Pentagon! It's likely the Pentagon was hit by a missile. It certainly was NOT hit by a commercial jet!
"Numerous points based on the physical evidence of the crash site seem to make an overwhelming cumulative case against a 757 having crashed there, provided one ignores the eyewitness evidence. However, most of these points involve some error in evaluating the evidence. Those errors include the following."
'A Boeing 757 could not have executed the attack maneuver'
'Eyewitnesses saw a small plane'
'The Pentagon attack left no aircraft debris'
'Aircraft crashes always leave large debris'
'The Pentagon attack left only a small impact hole'
'The wings of a 757 should have been visible outside the Pentagon'
'Engine parts from the Pentagon crash don't match a 757'
'Standing columns in the Pentagon impact hole preclude the crash of a 757'
'The C-ring punch-out hole was made by a warhead'
'Flight-path obstacles can't be reconciled with the crash of a 757'
'Only A Small Plane or Missile Could Have Caused Pentagon Damage'
'The Pentagon Attack Plane was a Boeing 737 Instead of a Boeing 757'
'The Jetliner that appeared to crash into the Pentagon actually flew over it'
You don’t need to be politically correct with me. There are dozens of unanswered questions surrounding 9/11 but it’s such a sacred cow you get cancelled/censored for even asking said questions!
I've been asking questions publicly since the spring of 2002. I have been cancelled for other things (questioning #metoo and #covid for example) but never for questioning 9/11.
well, we need to know a lot more. there is no proof that such a flight ever existed, and the manifest looked like the plane should be taking off from the pentagon rather than crashing into it. Were these friends involved in government?
It wasn't a missile. Real people were in a real plane and it crashed directly into the reinforced wall of the Pentagon - they were essentially vaporized on impact.
yep. same here. The USA has not been one of the good guys for a long time. JFK saw this, saw that the monster that Truman had created (which he later regretted) called the CIA was indeed a monster and threatened to break it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the four winds. And look what happened to JFK
That's because the Feds, or whoever, went round to all the local businesses and confiscated any video they might have. Many of them testified to this but it was not included in the official report.
Interesting, because I heard that there were no wings found on the ground! It could only have been a missile that hit the very spot where major records were kept related to the disappearance of billions.
No, the hole cutout is explained when you actually look at the evidence. Most people making the claim of "no wings" have not looked closely. And they haven't because it's a lot to get through.
Proponents of the no-Boeing theory have made the following claims about the damage to the Pentagon's facade:
1. There was only one impact hole measuring no more than 18 feet across.
2. The impact hole was at most 65 feet across.
3. Standing columns remained where heavy 757 parts should have obliterated them.
4. The hole was too small to accommodate wing ends and tail.
Claim 1 is based on the selective presentation of photographs in which fire retardant spray obscures the entire first floor. Claim 2 is based on the fallacy that the distance between the expansion joints bounding the collapsed region of the facade marked the maximum extent of impact punctures. Post-crash photographs clearly show impact punctures extending over twenty feet to the right and to the left of the expansion joints.
Claim 3 is based on the confusion of hanging sections of the second floor for columns. Claim 4 is true, but consistent with the crash of a 757 whose wing ends and tail are too light to puncture the Pentagon's walls.
It’s well established that it was a cruise missile. Still it is important to continually bring these subjects up to enlighten people who may be seeing it for the first time. In official circles they tell us that a guy that could barely fly a single engine plane was able to perform a very difficult corkscrew dive in a large jet and hit the pentagon just a few feet above the grass. And most cameras were turned off that day by coincidence.
AI uses mainstream media reports especially Google. That link is totally bogus. Anyone that has done any amount of research knows the official narrative of all the 9/11 events were fiction. Of course I may be talking to a bot. There never was plane debris found in the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania.
Popular Mechanics might not be an objective source of information. Jim Meigs, who has appeared in various TV documentaries, is the former editor of Popular Mechanics magazine. He's a member of the Manhattan Institute, which is chaired by Betsy Devos. SourceWatch describes the MI as a right-wing, pro-privatization, corporate front group which is funded by many tax-exempt foundations set up by billionaires. It says the MI is not required to reveal its funders, but SourceWatch has found many of them and lists those on the site. Some of these corporate fronts also sponsor programs on PBS and NPR. The Koch brothers and ALEC are two notables associated with the MI.
No, it's not. Missiles, small planes, no planes, etc. were debunked long ago.
Pentagon Attack Errors
Numerous points based on the physical evidence of the crash site seem to make an overwhelming cumulative case against a 757 having crashed there, provided one ignores the eyewitness evidence. However, most of these points involve some error in evaluating the evidence. Those errors include the following -
'A Boeing 757 could not have executed the attack maneuver'
'Eyewitnesses saw a small plane'
'The Pentagon attack left no aircraft debris'
'Aircraft crashes always leave large debris'
'The Pentagon attack left only a small impact hole'
'The wings of a 757 should have been visible outside the Pentagon'
'Engine parts from the Pentagon crash don't match a 757'
'Standing columns in the Pentagon impact hole preclude the crash of a 757'
'The C-ring punch-out hole was made by a warhead'
'Flight-path obstacles can't be reconciled with the crash of a 757'
'Only A Small Plane or Missile Could Have Caused Pentagon Damage'
'The Pentagon Attack Plane was a Boeing 737 Instead of a Boeing 757'
'The Jetliner that appeared to crash into the Pentagon actually flew over it'
Your link is spot on. The mainstream narrative is totally impossible. Most evidence points to a cruise missile, or a missile and some well placed explosives.
The goal of the "no plane" claims was to make those questioning the official story look like nutcases, and not at all interested in what happened to the passengers in their assertions.
How the “students” with hundred of boxes of explosives were in the basement for weeks prior. Then the security cameras not working during the same time. Don’t forget the testimonials of the witnesses and first responders. Also the dancing Jews and how Israel rejoiced at the news.
But the smoking gun is the man who stood to actually profit off the insurance claim. Of course a Jew who just purchased the policies and made millions off of old buildings that were full of asbestos and would cost a fortune to renovate.
Then look at the government who stood to profit off the “patriot” act that robbed Americans of their liberties.
It’s one big scam like everything else that profits the oppressors at the expense of the oppressed. No different than the covid scam…
"This analysis of the debris distribution suggests not only that the Flight 93 was shot down, but that it might have been flying west at the time it was shot down."
My colleague Steve from the NYS governor's press corps worked for NPR at the time of the Pentagon incident/911 and was one of the first people on the scene, arriving before the wall collapsed. I was able to interview him. He said that he was paged to go to the scene of an explosion inside of the Pentagon, not an airplane crash; and that when he arrived, he said it did not look like an airplane had crashed. So by this and other indications, there was no airplane; there is no photo of any recognizable wreckage on the ground. No jets or landing gear were recovered (they are titanium and will survive nearly any crash).
How many jetliner crashes directly into a building had your friend seen before to compare it to? Oh right, no one has. There was a lot that was not intuitive about the crash because none of us have experienced such sites. When a military jet crashes into a masonry wall, there is literally nothing left. However, the actual analysis of the debris, together with the FULL body of eyewitness testimonies, shows AA77 did crash there.
See: The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory: Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics
"Many researchers have ignored or dismissed this eyewitness evidence in favor of a seemingly overwhelming physical evidence case that no 757 crashed at the Pentagon, based on photographs of the crash site. As I show below, however, each of the pieces of evidence adduced in favor of the no-757-crash theory can be reconciled with the crash of a 757."
Wait jet liner directly into a building? None; it was unprecedented at the time, which is why there could be so much chicanery. Nobody had a basis for comparison and even people who knew engineering fell for the "pancake theory" of WTC I and II
Remember that the first bit of testimony is what he was told to cover: an explosion inside of a building.
He said he had seen many airplane crashes, actually. This is a very experienced reporter. Meanwhile, I acquired a collection of airplane crash photography books to have a personal basis for comparison, even if only photographic.
I see where you are coming from BTW. I have an experienced reporter covering the 757 controversy within the "truth movement." We have been focusing our discussion on this very issue the past few weeks vis a vis Gage, AE, etc.
If you think an airplane crashed, show me a picture of it. Or better, tell me where the airplane is in this photo. How does an airplane crash into a building but the debris moves in the opposite direction? Try throwing a rock at a window and see where the glass goes. It does not blow black at your face.
People have been sending me these photos for decades and I've seen them over and over; if a little bit of sheet metal qualifies as proof that a 757 crashed, you're a real optimist. I want to see them drag the airframe, the jets, the wings, the landing gear, out of that building. None of those would burn and it was not an especially hot incident anyway. I want to see footage of lifting out the titanium. You will never find it. And where exactly did the wings go? What was this, wonder woman's invisible airplane?
At that speed the components were shredded to pieces, pulverized, atomized, and yet they found all of the airplane in one form or another, some of the larger pieces survived as noted in the articles I've listed. They found the remains of the passengers as well, some of that was only DNA, but they convict murderers with DNA evidence. Didn't you read about the larger pieces they found?
David Chandler, a prominent 911 researcher "decurved" the security hut footage. In the corrected footage, a plane was revealed with the correct colours rather than a white streak. If he's still around he'll be open to emails. I don't have the link to the footage though, anybody here?
That’s because it wasnt a plane; it was a hypersonic cruise missile made by our dear friends….
My colleague from the NYS governor's press corps worked for NPR at the time of the Pentagon crash and was one of the first people on the scene, arriving before the wall collapsed. I was able to interview him. He said that he was paged to go to the scene of an explosion inside of the Pentagon, not an airplane crash; and that when he arrived, he said it did not look like an airplane had crashed. So by this and other indications, there was no airplane; there is no photo of any recognizable wreckage on the ground. No jets or landing gear were recovered (they are titanium and will survive nearly any crash).
They’ve been lying to us for years; to push for NSA citizen surveillance by way of the “Patriot” Act and a pretext to start a proxy war on the so called Axis of evil (which is in reality Bush/Cheny/Mossy/Halliburton Execs). Building 7/Israeli art students/Dancing Israelis know….and we do too…
To explicitly tie Justin's comment to John's claim that this is "strange." No--Not strange--they've been lying.
Why did John come up with such a lame framing? It would have been far more straightforward to conclude "There's no way--it's simply not credible that this is the only footage."
That part of the Pentagon in the years prior went through extensive reinforcing. It would seem obvious that explosives were incorporated when that was going on, these operations are carried out with long lead times.
That is the stupidest thing I have read today, and that's saying something. If it was some explosion, whose remains (remember, they were identified as passengers) were recovered from the wreckage. You need to think through your embarrassingly hollow conspiracy theories.
Not true, i saw several photos of pieces of airframe wreckage outside of the pentagon on the lawn. I have to say however, the gatekeepers have done a very poor job of reporting on these events adequately which allow conspiracy theories to erupt like water poured on greek fire. It's almost like they want people to develop these alternate theories...
OK so I shall say to my readers — BREAKING NEWS, ARNOLD F SAYS HE SAW PHOTOS OF THE AIRFRAME. But he cannot produce them, so we have to take his world for it.
I saw it and good enough for me. do your own research sir.
NPR? You have to be kidding. Not exactly a credible source. If there wasn't a plane, what happened to the people who boarded that flight? I know someone who was working for Rumsfeld at the time. He responded to a plane crashing into the Pentagon. Your entire story is ridiculous. You think magic was involved. Abracadabra.
By "dear friends" of course you mean the CIA. A creation of the Dulles brothers. Partners with Hitler's Banker Prescott Bush during WWII, a subsidiary of the Rockefellers and their one-world public-private partnership (Fascist) governing model. That created outposts for conducting US policy around the globe, including the very controversial one in the ME. Long a CIA-puppet, regime after regime, party affiliation of no importance, just there for the patina of democracy. Where leaders who try to break from their CIA puppetmasters get the Sharon treatment.
By "dear friends" of course you mean the Bush Crime Syndicate, which includes the capos and family loyalists with names like Cheney, McConnell, Roberts, Rove, Murdoch, Ford, Kristol, Kissinger, Rumsfield, et al.
Because it was an inside job, from top to bottom. Useful to transforming a free nation into a perpetual police surveillance state, shredding the US Constitution and imposing US hegemony across the globe. Necessary to pass the Anti-Constitutional "Patriot Act," repugnant to the Constitution, the name reflecting the adversary, not the protectee, declaration of war against patriotic, constitutionalist Americans.
And anyone who thinks that a puppet state wags the US master dog probably believes that Building Seven came down as a result of debris and vibrations from the buildings that collapsed next them because jet fuel burns so hot.
The Bush family name makes the name and actions of "Benedict Arnold" seem like a little fisticuffs between family. Traitors of extraordinary depraved evil to the United States of America. Enemies within. From Hitler's Banker to Communist China's "Best friends ever in the White House" they can be relied upon to fleece and destroy this once-great nation. Blood money has always been their ticket to fame and fortune. It's in their DNA.
https://u-mercari-images.mercdn.net/photos/m38904672132_1.jpg
Ditto, exactly correct!
Actually, although the whole thing was an inside job, the plane and its passengers were real. The goal was simply to start the war. People get excited by the idea that a missile hit, when the ugly, more boring reality is that a plane slammed into a building and killed everyone on board.
https://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/parts.html
Where was the wreckage and body parts? Why was there not wreckage all over the grounds?
I don't think you understand what happened. Also, remains of all the passengers were recovered and identified. And you could see what remained of the aircraft from Army Navy Drive and Columbia Pike.
why weren’t there more videos of what you saw?
Those videos were all over local TV in DC and Virginia. From every conceivable viewpoint. For weeks. There also are multiple photographs, everyone in DC with a camera went out there and shot pictures.
I drove by there the next day. You could see the airliner outline. It was not a cruise missile. I know several people who worked there. None of them think it was anything but a Boeing 757. And I also know two people who had loved ones aboard that airplane. Where do you think the aircraft went if not into the Pentagon? And where do you think the passengers went?
I lived a mile from the Pentagon on that fateful day. I cannot comment on the training of the pilot nor the path that plane took, but I can verify its existence and the smoke spiraling up from that building as I crossed Chain Bridge. I can also attest to a very worried State Department worker who sat in his car, not knowing what to do - to go to the meeting we had or to return to the building.. The Emergency Manager, Mark Penn, had been appointed to that position September 10th. He did heroic work as did the first responders. The area the plane hit had just been renovated, so its structure was much sturdier than the remainder of the building. The fire risk was from the wood that traversed the roof of the building. The damage, in short, would have been much greater were it not for the strengthening construction that had just been completed. The "how" this was effected may never be known - and I question whether the airport would have had visual sight of the building given all the buildings in Crystal City. And it was an airplane - not a cruise missile. And there wasn't wreckage all over the ground because the plane penetrated the Pentagon with the tail sticking out. Have a large picture of that somewhere - 25 years later. Worked with emergency management and the community and then-Governor Warner's office (volunteer)b for three very long years.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-911-pentagon-airplane-debris-598153051732?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share
This is old news but just like Lee Harvey and JFK, the entire 9/11 event is sus. The Pentagon is surrounded by cameras but only one video "survived"? More sus. I watched the video years ago and to my eye it was a missile. It clearly was not a large airplane. And if it was, where the hell is all the airplane debris??? It just magically vaporized the way the Twin Towers vaporized?
Like I said, "Sus!"
Really?! A huge 757 comes in at high speed just a few feet off the ground without pancaking into the earth and scattering airplane parts all over the Pentagon? Makes me feel stupid just wasting time talking about it.
I'm more concerned with the psyops that are happening right now. It's far from over.
Also, there is the clear lack of any tailfin or building damage due to tainfin.
BTW, this is a great distraction from the shady stuff going on as we speak. "They" no longer care about this.
And the psyops continues to distract us from what is happening behind our back.
I just posted pretty much the exact same post :D
I imagine several have. Anyone who believes otherwise hasn't even been paying attention.
Obviously, I can't prove it but I would not hesitate to put money that it was an Israeli missile. (Oops... someone is now going to call me anti-semitic. Of course, they will be a "Christian" Zionist.)
Why would Israel be part of this?
Well now, that is a rabbit hole most want to pretend does not exist. The simple answer is that 9/11 propelled the US military into the Middle East in service to Israeli ambitions. As regards the Pentagon, the section hit by the missile destroyed records of hundreds of trillions of dollars the Pentagon lost track of, much of which went to Israel. Trillions unaccounted for. Your tax dollar at work.
The ambition was to occupy Afghanistan and then use it as a base to topple Iran. But after 20 years(!) in Afghan, we had to turn tail and run just like in Vietnam. And big bad Iran is still there facing Israel. Oh my!
The official story of the strike on the Pentagon is so full of holes it's laughable. First of all, commercial jets are not designed to fly at speeds greater than 350 mph in the thick atmosphere at sea level. No way could a commercial jet fly at 500 mph at or near sea level, it would break apart!
Second, where are the pieces of the jet in the wreckage? Where are the jet engines, the wing sections, the tail section, the fuselage sections? Where are the passenger bodies (and blood!) and passenger luggage? The story is absurd.
Back in the 1990's after the pilots shut off the autopilot in preparation for landing, the 737 they were flying rolled upside down and flew into the ground in a wooded area near Pittsburgh at 300 mph. There was so much blood in the several acres of woods at the crash site, it was cordoned off as a health hazard. Body parts everywhere, cleanup workers would break down in tears as they worked thru the wreckage. I remember reading about a worker who said, "there was a hand with a ring on it." There was NONE OF THIS at the Pentagon! It's likely the Pentagon was hit by a missile. It certainly was NOT hit by a commercial jet!
and the wall collapses OUTWARD when the kinetic energy of any crash should drive the debris inward, in the direction of the projectile.
The "no plane" claims were debunked long ago.
"Numerous points based on the physical evidence of the crash site seem to make an overwhelming cumulative case against a 757 having crashed there, provided one ignores the eyewitness evidence. However, most of these points involve some error in evaluating the evidence. Those errors include the following."
'A Boeing 757 could not have executed the attack maneuver'
'Eyewitnesses saw a small plane'
'The Pentagon attack left no aircraft debris'
'Aircraft crashes always leave large debris'
'The Pentagon attack left only a small impact hole'
'The wings of a 757 should have been visible outside the Pentagon'
'Engine parts from the Pentagon crash don't match a 757'
'Standing columns in the Pentagon impact hole preclude the crash of a 757'
'The C-ring punch-out hole was made by a warhead'
'Flight-path obstacles can't be reconciled with the crash of a 757'
'Only A Small Plane or Missile Could Have Caused Pentagon Damage'
'The Pentagon Attack Plane was a Boeing 737 Instead of a Boeing 757'
'The Jetliner that appeared to crash into the Pentagon actually flew over it'
https://911review.com/errors/pentagon/index.html
https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
Ask Google if Chemtrails exist. Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning.🤣
Exactly!
your last sentence is assumptive.
https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn The pieces of the plane they recovered
AI generated. no photos.
You don’t need to be politically correct with me. There are dozens of unanswered questions surrounding 9/11 but it’s such a sacred cow you get cancelled/censored for even asking said questions!
I've been asking questions publicly since the spring of 2002. I have been cancelled for other things (questioning #metoo and #covid for example) but never for questioning 9/11.
well, we need to know a lot more. there is no proof that such a flight ever existed, and the manifest looked like the plane should be taking off from the pentagon rather than crashing into it. Were these friends involved in government?
Then why did they find all the parts of the plane in the wreckage? https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
I was told it was a missile not a plane ✈️
It wasn't a missile. Real people were in a real plane and it crashed directly into the reinforced wall of the Pentagon - they were essentially vaporized on impact.
https://911review.com/errors/pentagon/crashdebris.html
Some of the evidence at the scene is covered here -
https://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/yardparts.html
Not completely vaporized https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
I used to believe that we (USA) were the good guys. Then I began to wonder. Now I know the sad truth of the matter.
yep. same here. The USA has not been one of the good guys for a long time. JFK saw this, saw that the monster that Truman had created (which he later regretted) called the CIA was indeed a monster and threatened to break it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the four winds. And look what happened to JFK
That's because the Feds, or whoever, went round to all the local businesses and confiscated any video they might have. Many of them testified to this but it was not included in the official report.
Interesting, because I heard that there were no wings found on the ground! It could only have been a missile that hit the very spot where major records were kept related to the disappearance of billions.
No, the hole cutout is explained when you actually look at the evidence. Most people making the claim of "no wings" have not looked closely. And they haven't because it's a lot to get through.
Proponents of the no-Boeing theory have made the following claims about the damage to the Pentagon's facade:
1. There was only one impact hole measuring no more than 18 feet across.
2. The impact hole was at most 65 feet across.
3. Standing columns remained where heavy 757 parts should have obliterated them.
4. The hole was too small to accommodate wing ends and tail.
Claim 1 is based on the selective presentation of photographs in which fire retardant spray obscures the entire first floor. Claim 2 is based on the fallacy that the distance between the expansion joints bounding the collapsed region of the facade marked the maximum extent of impact punctures. Post-crash photographs clearly show impact punctures extending over twenty feet to the right and to the left of the expansion joints.
Claim 3 is based on the confusion of hanging sections of the second floor for columns. Claim 4 is true, but consistent with the crash of a 757 whose wing ends and tail are too light to puncture the Pentagon's walls.
https://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html#debris
It’s well established that it was a cruise missile. Still it is important to continually bring these subjects up to enlighten people who may be seeing it for the first time. In official circles they tell us that a guy that could barely fly a single engine plane was able to perform a very difficult corkscrew dive in a large jet and hit the pentagon just a few feet above the grass. And most cameras were turned off that day by coincidence.
well established? I cannot find that.
I need to clarify: well established in non mainstream circles. Thanks for pointing that out.
If a cruise missile, then why were all the remains of the passengers there?? https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
AI uses mainstream media reports especially Google. That link is totally bogus. Anyone that has done any amount of research knows the official narrative of all the 9/11 events were fiction. Of course I may be talking to a bot. There never was plane debris found in the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania.
Here's Popular Mechanics https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a66052053/pentagon-911-plane-crash-myths/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=action_bar
Popular Mechanics might not be an objective source of information. Jim Meigs, who has appeared in various TV documentaries, is the former editor of Popular Mechanics magazine. He's a member of the Manhattan Institute, which is chaired by Betsy Devos. SourceWatch describes the MI as a right-wing, pro-privatization, corporate front group which is funded by many tax-exempt foundations set up by billionaires. It says the MI is not required to reveal its funders, but SourceWatch has found many of them and lists those on the site. Some of these corporate fronts also sponsor programs on PBS and NPR. The Koch brothers and ALEC are two notables associated with the MI.
The report is compiled from official sources, not a made up fiction
No, it's not. Missiles, small planes, no planes, etc. were debunked long ago.
Pentagon Attack Errors
Numerous points based on the physical evidence of the crash site seem to make an overwhelming cumulative case against a 757 having crashed there, provided one ignores the eyewitness evidence. However, most of these points involve some error in evaluating the evidence. Those errors include the following -
'A Boeing 757 could not have executed the attack maneuver'
'Eyewitnesses saw a small plane'
'The Pentagon attack left no aircraft debris'
'Aircraft crashes always leave large debris'
'The Pentagon attack left only a small impact hole'
'The wings of a 757 should have been visible outside the Pentagon'
'Engine parts from the Pentagon crash don't match a 757'
'Standing columns in the Pentagon impact hole preclude the crash of a 757'
'The C-ring punch-out hole was made by a warhead'
'Flight-path obstacles can't be reconciled with the crash of a 757'
'Only A Small Plane or Missile Could Have Caused Pentagon Damage'
'The Pentagon Attack Plane was a Boeing 737 Instead of a Boeing 757'
'The Jetliner that appeared to crash into the Pentagon actually flew over it'
https://911review.com/errors/pentagon/index.html
Your link is spot on. The mainstream narrative is totally impossible. Most evidence points to a cruise missile, or a missile and some well placed explosives.
Here's the remains of the passengers https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
What happened to the people on that flight? I have a friend who said her 2 friends on that flight perished, never heard from again.
The goal of the "no plane" claims was to make those questioning the official story look like nutcases, and not at all interested in what happened to the passengers in their assertions.
https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
If it were a plane there would be plane wreckage. There was NO plane wreckage at the site, ever....🧐🤦♀️💥💯
Here;s the remains of the passengers https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
The wreckage :https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
There was, you just haven't seen it.
https://911review.com/errors/pentagon/nodebris.html
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Obviously not a plane.
The “wreckage” lacked any debris.
Next do the towers themselves.
How the “students” with hundred of boxes of explosives were in the basement for weeks prior. Then the security cameras not working during the same time. Don’t forget the testimonials of the witnesses and first responders. Also the dancing Jews and how Israel rejoiced at the news.
But the smoking gun is the man who stood to actually profit off the insurance claim. Of course a Jew who just purchased the policies and made millions off of old buildings that were full of asbestos and would cost a fortune to renovate.
Then look at the government who stood to profit off the “patriot” act that robbed Americans of their liberties.
It’s one big scam like everything else that profits the oppressors at the expense of the oppressed. No different than the covid scam…
Lucky Larry's Preposterous Plan
Trailer for a remarkably revealing "cartoon" about 9/11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l2sC4SUInQ
Full version here
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e8g8vtxccobu8evgs7c0g/LUCKYLARRYWMFULLEPISODE2.mov?rlkey=35piavvbw4dz20bqlkd8pxh10&e=1&st=i110znpe&dl=0
The debris, the remains of the plane https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
Fellow readers, if it wasn't a plane, what happened to all the victims on board? 🤷🏼♀️
They found them https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
There is a member of the US military who was brought in to do the cleanup after the incident.
He said that there was no debris indicating that an aircraft crashed into the Pentagon.
He subsequently went on to train in crash investigation, which made him certain that the debris seen on the day did not support the aircraft story.
"This analysis of the debris distribution suggests not only that the Flight 93 was shot down, but that it might have been flying west at the time it was shot down."
https://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93site.html
Here were the remains of the passengers https://share.google/aimode/QcMCDDqARrk1Yb6ZA
Here is the debris https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
My colleague Steve from the NYS governor's press corps worked for NPR at the time of the Pentagon incident/911 and was one of the first people on the scene, arriving before the wall collapsed. I was able to interview him. He said that he was paged to go to the scene of an explosion inside of the Pentagon, not an airplane crash; and that when he arrived, he said it did not look like an airplane had crashed. So by this and other indications, there was no airplane; there is no photo of any recognizable wreckage on the ground. No jets or landing gear were recovered (they are titanium and will survive nearly any crash).
How many jetliner crashes directly into a building had your friend seen before to compare it to? Oh right, no one has. There was a lot that was not intuitive about the crash because none of us have experienced such sites. When a military jet crashes into a masonry wall, there is literally nothing left. However, the actual analysis of the debris, together with the FULL body of eyewitness testimonies, shows AA77 did crash there.
See: The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory: Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics
"Many researchers have ignored or dismissed this eyewitness evidence in favor of a seemingly overwhelming physical evidence case that no 757 crashed at the Pentagon, based on photographs of the crash site. As I show below, however, each of the pieces of evidence adduced in favor of the no-757-crash theory can be reconciled with the crash of a 757."
https://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
Wait jet liner directly into a building? None; it was unprecedented at the time, which is why there could be so much chicanery. Nobody had a basis for comparison and even people who knew engineering fell for the "pancake theory" of WTC I and II
Remember that the first bit of testimony is what he was told to cover: an explosion inside of a building.
He said he had seen many airplane crashes, actually. This is a very experienced reporter. Meanwhile, I acquired a collection of airplane crash photography books to have a personal basis for comparison, even if only photographic.
I see where you are coming from BTW. I have an experienced reporter covering the 757 controversy within the "truth movement." We have been focusing our discussion on this very issue the past few weeks vis a vis Gage, AE, etc.
If you think an airplane crashed, show me a picture of it. Or better, tell me where the airplane is in this photo. How does an airplane crash into a building but the debris moves in the opposite direction? Try throwing a rock at a window and see where the glass goes. It does not blow black at your face.
http://planetwaves.net/pentagon/2.jpg
The remains, the wreckage, the parts found https://share.google/aimode/fgTjuT1xoP6SfE8cn
haha AI? I mean a contemporaneous photograph that can be dated and verified
Here's Popular Mechanix. There are hundreds of reliable sources for this. The AI simply compiles all the data. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a66052053/pentagon-911-plane-crash-myths/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=action_bar
People have been sending me these photos for decades and I've seen them over and over; if a little bit of sheet metal qualifies as proof that a 757 crashed, you're a real optimist. I want to see them drag the airframe, the jets, the wings, the landing gear, out of that building. None of those would burn and it was not an especially hot incident anyway. I want to see footage of lifting out the titanium. You will never find it. And where exactly did the wings go? What was this, wonder woman's invisible airplane?
At that speed the components were shredded to pieces, pulverized, atomized, and yet they found all of the airplane in one form or another, some of the larger pieces survived as noted in the articles I've listed. They found the remains of the passengers as well, some of that was only DNA, but they convict murderers with DNA evidence. Didn't you read about the larger pieces they found?
David Chandler, a prominent 911 researcher "decurved" the security hut footage. In the corrected footage, a plane was revealed with the correct colours rather than a white streak. If he's still around he'll be open to emails. I don't have the link to the footage though, anybody here?
All the "911 research" I've seen has been psyops, EXCEPT for Judy Wood's book "Where Did The Towers Go?"
I don't think anyone has even tried to refute her evidence.
Judy Wood was a nutcase, the same as Morgan Reynolds, who said "cartoons" hit the WTC Towers in his FOX News interview.
https://911research.wtc7.net/essays/patriots_question/index.html
Ah ha! I knew that would hook somebody. Let me guess: you never read her book cuz you "know" she's a nut job?
His website, 911speakout.org, is still up and has his contact info.
Are you referring to this video?
https://911speakout.org/seeing-the-pentagon-plane/
Yeah, you know I think it was. That guy is smart.
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