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That used to be the case. At the age of 13 in the UK girls were tested and if they hadn't already had rubella, we were vaccinated against it. Given the risks of rubella in early stage pregnancy I supported that and was vaccinated. What I don't understand is why would you give it with mumps and measles and to a baby. The key point is that for healthy children these childhood diseases not only weren't a problem but helped provide a strong immune system through adult hood. I had measles as a child - apart from the rash, I wasn't ill.

Childhood illnesses were a problem for vulnerable children as were all infections. The DTP vaccine was a classic example of transferring risk from vulnerable children to healthy children. There was no reduction in deaths, just different children were dying ie those vaccinated. Which was why once the evidence of the harm of the pertussis vaccine came out I didn't vaccinate my children. Sir Gordon Stewart's work explained and provided the evidence for what was going on. A very fine epidemiologist and public health officer, he was later vilified as anti-vaccine. Tragically 'twas ever thus.

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When applying for a new clinical position in 2020 the hospital required Ab titres for measles, mumps, and varicella all of which diseases I had as a child about 60 years ago and Hepatitis B which I was vaccinated for in the Army about 30 years ago. The antibody levels for MMR were 20 to 1000 times the level demonstrating immunity while the Hep B was just barely adequate. I never considered myself anti vaxx but Covid led me to examine what I thought I knew about vaccines. Given the risks, lack of effectiveness and mostly benign course for these childhood diseases I think it’s time for new approach.

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