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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

“tens of millions of young Americans—including many Jewish Americans—share Carlson’s exasperation with America’s endless wars” — when we say ‘Jews,’ that’s a BROAD category

Let’s be specific. What Carlson and others are focusing on is this Elite Ashkenazi Zionist Faction. They hide behind the term call “Jew” so why attempt to discuss them is seen as ‘antisemitic.’

Stop calling them Jews. Start calling them the EAZF: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/stop-saying-its-the-jews-start-calling

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I don't judge people at all, if they are nice, I like them; if they aren't I keep away from them. However, I am very leery of those who follow the Koran...it states in 9 Chapters that Killing Infidels will get you an entrance into Paradise...and it is alright to lie, in order to advance Islam. I have read that there Agenda is to breed and take over the world. It also says that Muslims can not take any oath, except to Allah...So, how come we permit Muslims to be in our Congress? They would have to lie,.in order to advance Islam!

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denise ward's avatar

Zionists believe they are the chosen ones and have you read their Talmud lately? It's full of violence towards the goy, including children.

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Beyond Spin's avatar

Most contemporary Jews have very little understanding of the Talmud. Most of their religious understanding is based on the Torah. The Talmud is really a recording of oral laws and ideas (the Mishnah), with lots and lots of commentaries (thousands of pages)...many of which are contradictory since the Talmud is all about debating ideas. These debates included a lot of histrionic comments made for the purpose of debate. Many of these comments have been taken out of context to portray Talmudic Jews in a negative light. Plus a lot of the Talmud was written in Jewish Aramaic, particularly the Gemera. So, a lot of the translations also haven't been very accurate. So, what you noted needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

For further insights, here's a good discussion on understanding the Talmud:

https://youtu.be/CLV1nDoNRcc?si=-LyauY0yoqgnsVfN

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Trump is Miriam Adelson's lap dog. Plus Trump filled his administration with rabid Christian and Jewish Zionists as well as neocons. So, Trump is MIGA, not MAGA. So, you obviously suffer from Trump Devotion Syndrome which is just as bad or worse than Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Tess Jam's avatar

Blaming Adelson is like blaming Trump - it's blindly believing propaganda that divides than conquers an America. Like anyone can control Trump but follow the money for Tucker, Fuentes, Candace, Jones and who were all involved with CIA and didn't Candace husband, almost, cost Bongino his money fortune on Parlor? Hmmm .... Carlson hated Trump, then liked him to gain MAGA trust, then hated him like always!

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews do NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Contradictions, and violence expressed in the Bible too.

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Maha's avatar

But wait, to address the writings in the Talmud accurately means the Jew haters lose another club in their bag.

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Tess Jam's avatar

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Tess Jam's avatar

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews do NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Many Ultra-Orthodox are also anti-Zionist, plus approx 50% of Israelis are secular Jews as were most early Zionists, including Herzl & Ben Gurion. Herzl was an atheist and Ben Gurion was an agnostic socialist. Other early Zionists were Marxists.

There are a lot of different forms of Judaism including Reformed, Conservative, Orthodox, Modern Orthodox, Haradi (Ultra-Orthodox), Hasidic, Yeshivish, Reconstuctive, etc.

There are also different ethnicity of Jews, including Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi.

In the US about 35% of Jews identify as Reformed Jews.

In Israel, the elite are Ashkenazi as were most of the founders. Though, today about 50% of Israelis are Mizrahi Jews.

The sad thing about Israel today is that the Likudniks and extreme Kahanists, plus other messianic Jews, have dragged the country even further to fascism and colonial expansionism for a "Greater Israel," not just from the "river to the sea," but from the "river to the river." That is from the Niles to the Euphrates.

The Likudniks are the descendants of Jabotinsky who in 1923 clearly defined a Jewish homeland in the Levant as a colonial project. Jabotinsky was also inspired by Mussolini. Begin succeeded Jabotinsky and helped form the Likud Party in 1977.

The Kahanists and other messianic Jews believe they need to establish the Greater Israel state as a pre-condition for the arrival of the Jewish messiah. This is the complete opposite from the ultra-orthodox Jews who claim the messiah has to arrive first before a Jewish homeland can be established.

You seem to fall into the fascist camp that's pretty much antithetical to Talmudic Judaism since Talmudic Judaism is centered on debate and the airing of opinions, not dogma, conformity and the suppression of any non-conforming views.

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Tess Jam's avatar

Clearly NOT - read what I wrote. I'm Conservative as well as Conservative politically and love debate, no conforming views and support Trump. Not the folks dividing to conquer.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I am not into organized religion. I am totally into the Creator who made the world and all life. I was taught as a child that God loved me and that was all I needed. I have never walked alone. I knew that my every thought was known...and we didn't have a Bible in our home. i didnt even have a Bible, until a friend sent me a King James Bible in 1983. I ask for guidance before I read anything...and I have found it to be very interesting. It does say, not to stand in a gathering of people and pray,... It says..." and when you pray, enter into your closet (room) and shut the door and the Father, which seeth in secret shall reward you openly."....Matt 6: 5

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denise ward's avatar

With respect Barbara, it disturbs me why women go for this solo god thing. Only men wrote it, it's all about men's adventures and women don't seem to notice. I cannot see how one solo person (let alone a man) could possibly be the creator of anything let alone what we perceive as the universe and all that's in it. All beings come from the woman (except a very few species like seahorses) Women didn't come from a man's rib, that is nonsense. The bible shows to me how much it denies women.

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Vanessa Cunningham's avatar

Tell me you've never read the Bible without telling you you've never opened a bible.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I never owned a Bible, until a friend gave me one in 1983...and I've been reading it for over 40 years. When I was in High School I volunteered to read the Bible before the class every morning, but we did not have a Bible in our home. My grandmother was a Christian Scientist..and taught me to pray, when I was 4 years old. My mother believed in God, but my Father was into nature. He taught me to respect nature and the earth. My mother was a teacher for 52 years and had no spare time. My father spent a great deal of time with us, when i was young...and he said it was better to be out in nature on Sunday than to sit in a stuffy church. Both parents were very well read; and out home was loaded with books. Every weekend my father would walk my sister snd me for miles to the library to get books to read. I was surrounded by many good people growing up, but most were not into religion.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

It was written over the course of centuries. Those were patriarchal times and unscientific times. In many ways, we have not progressed. Very hard to separate people from an image of a man, maybe someone like Anthony Hopkins in appearance as the creator of the universe. I could see how children could believe such a concept, before critical thinking set in.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Great job, comrade!!

Preach, comrade, preach!! Divide and concur!!

Proletariat of the World, Unite!! 😂🤣🤡😘

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Beyond Spin's avatar

There were actually other earlier versions of Genesis where God made an hermaphrodite, and then split that hermaphrodite into Adam and Eve. So, Eve wasn't subordinated to Adam and society wasn't inherently patriarchal. Many other creation myths of other cultures and religions did and do focus on women since, as you noted, life comes from females in species with gonads and gametes.

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Martix's avatar

All this mess is due to the fact that we ignore that we are one, regardless of our external appearances. We can trace all the civilizations, beliefs and religions to a single root. The problems started when a group decided that it is better than the other and it is the chosen people of God. It is amazing that the Israeli and the Cristian God would give «10 commandments» to «Moses» (the African Musha or Masha), the «person» who is believed to have lived in an African Palace, where there was a King and laws, where everybody would be expected to follow the 42 principles of Maat, which already included the so called «10 commandments» (https://iseumsanctuary.com/2017/10/11/the-laws-and-ideals-of-maat/). So, is it God or the Africans who gave the commandments to «Moses»?

Wake up you fools, we are all the chosen people of the same divine Creator (First, for over 3 million years, in Matriarchal societies it was called Goddess, then, for the past few thousands years, when the societies were turned into Patriarchal it became God). All religions sprang from the same African source. Those who tried to recreate convenience religions («Judaism» «Christianity» and «Islam») did commit PLAGIARY, when they tried to conceal their African roots. It is ok to copy and learn from others, but trying to hide the sources is blatant PLAGIARY. Jews came from the African Ius, the followers of the IuSu spirituality. Iu (spiritual and physical dimensions); Su (sun of). Iusu (child of both spiritual and physical world - Iesu, Jesus). Ius - Jews (the original Jews are African, but it is ok for anyone to become Ius/Jews). Karast - Krest - Chrestian - Christian (African act of wrapping mummies in white linen to represent purity, to symbolise iternity and in preparation for spiritual resurrection). Mes - Mesu - Messiah (anointing the mummies with oils and perfume in preparation for spiritual resurrection). Adam - Atum - the origin (atom, the smallest functional particle that is the origin of life and of everything in the Universe - the building block). Eve - African Khefa (Khefa, also known as Kefa, is described as the Great Mother, representing the primal female force and the origin of all living things).

Do you see that we are one people and that there is no need to be fighting among us to defend God/Goddess? Our Creator does not need us to kill one another to protect him/her. If we all unite, we will be able to defeat the globalists who want to destroy us, regardless of our countries, races, religions, traditions, civilizations and you name it. We have to use the brain our Creator gave to us to protect ourselves, instead of destroy ourselves. Let´s use our intelligence and be wiser. We are one humankind, no matter what we believe, who we are, where we live, whatever.

Khefa is equated with the African Eve, the Black Mother of all created beings, and is seen as the origin of all human maternal lineages, a concept supported by genetic research pointing to a common female ancestor in East Africa. This figure, often referred to as Mitochondrial Eve, is a statistical reality derived from mitochondrial DNA passed from mother to daughter, tracing all living humans back to a single woman in Africa (https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/AncientEgyptTheLightOfTheWorld_GMassey.pdf). We´re all brothers and sisters and we´re all part of one another. Respect! Justice! Love! Peace!

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Tess Jam's avatar

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Martix's avatar

I agree with much of what you just said. Bless you!

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahaha “The problems started when a group decided that it is better than the other and it is the chosen people of God.” 😂🤣

You don’t know much history, do you? Jews did not decide they are chosen. They are chosen because, unlike others, they chose to accepted God’s word, the Bible.

“Wake up you fools, we are all the chosen people of the same divine Creator …”

The joke is on ignorant you 🤷‍♂️😘

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Martix's avatar

Are you talking about the conventional Bible, or the Tanakh? «Jews» do not accept the conventional Bible containing New Testament. The book edited by Eusebius, from 325 to 336 AD, called New Testament, ordered by the Roman Emperor, Constantine, is a PLAGIARY accepted by Christians, but not by «Jews».

The group you call Jews (not the original Ius/Jews from Africa) learnt most of their stuff in Ancient Egypt, where they were accommodated and supported for over 4 centuries, if the conventional Bible is correct, this time. They are believed to have moved to Egypt in order to survive. They were nomads, shephards, iliterate. What you probably call Jewish Bible is a PLAGIARY and represents the knowledge of the African spirituality. Please read https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/AncientEgyptTheLightOfTheWorld_GMassey.pdf carefully and ask for help if you´re not familiar with sign language. If you´re not familiar with sign language you will not be able to understand most of it.

Do you believe that just calling me ignorant will make you smarter? Up to you. Grow up!

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Paving the Way's avatar

The Jews wrote the stories didn't they? Of course they made themselves the heroes. Christians, the new and improved Jews, took the script and ran with the sequel.

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Tess Jam's avatar

Very Anti-Semitic Statement!!!

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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ddp4me's avatar

You have been listening to too much rhetoric. The Talmud is not followed by Jews except orthodox Jews. This is why spreading lies and innuendo is dangerous. You realize this is how the nazis got the German people to start the holocaust?

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Tess Jam's avatar

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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nonwo's avatar

To them, goyim are Asians, Arabs, Indians, Muslims but most of all Christians. They hate them the most and are trying to rile them up with fake posts.

Jesus kicked them out of the temple for the only vocation they had- money changing.

If you knew the details behind their money changing it is truly psychotic.

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Tess Jam's avatar

To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Phil Davis's avatar

They were chosen until 70CE when Rome did not leave any Temple Stone sitting upon another of the Jerusalem Temple. No Jew can trace their ancestry before the destruction of Jerusalem; all records were destroyed. Their favored nation status was never rebuilt. Few Christians understand that the Bible is a book of historical types, meaning events that foreshadowed future spiritual events. The New Temple is spiritually built upon people of all nations, not just the Jewish sect. It's futile to waste your time thinking that the physical Jerusalem and its temple will be rebuilt. That's all ancient history. The New Jerusalem is a spiritual construct open to all people.

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RoseMartyn's avatar

Agree. Furthermore The Messiah told his Jewish followers, that the temple would be destroyed, but He would raise it up again in three days. And He did. The “temple” is no longer of the brick and mortar kind. It is Spirit.

(BTW, there will be a new brick and mortar temple rebuild predicted in Revelation to take place in Jerusalem)

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahaha I have NO doubt that you read Hebrew and will readily substantiate your LIE with an appropriate quote 🤡😘

P.S. I was particularly impressed with your “including children”

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Perhaps you should look into the Talmud and the open hatred of "goyim", no different than the Quran. Neither of these groups are especially fond of Christians. Both reject following (and followers) of Christ, meaning they also worship a different god than Christians do, making both incompatible with, and hostile toward, western civilization and values... in theory, ideology and practice. And so much more. All that aside, the US and entire west should disassociate themselves with either "faction" in the M E and let them work out THEIR issues with zero involvement (and even less funding) for anything going on in that psychotic, godless region. Neither one of those "states" remotely qualify as the "good guys". And it's way past time for !srael to stop radicalizing and using "islam" as their broom -- organizing, financing, orchestrating, running, etc the mass illegal invasion "migration" of western countries. You'd do well to look into history, what's really going on, who's really running the planned intentional destruction of the west and why.

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To understand Judaism is to understand that Jews to NOT believe in the SAME! There are different streams of Judaism. There is a stream of Judaism known as Reform Judaism (Talmud, not Torah). While not universally true, most adherents of Reform Judaism lean politically far left and do not follow Jewish law, known as Halakhah, which is rooted in the Old Testament. As a movement, Reform Judaism officially rejects the binding nature of Halakhah, similar to how some liberal American judges interpret the U.S. Constitution as a living, evolving document open to reinterpretation rather than strictly adhering to original intent.

As a result, rabbinic opinions from Reform "Rabbis," conflict with Jewish law are not only rejected by more observant streams of Judaism but should also not be seen as representative of Jewish people as a whole (as many respondents including the OP seem to think). Put simply, Reform Judaism does not speak for all Jews and, frankly, is an embarrassment to many of us. It is important to recognize that.

This confusion arises because many non-Jews don't understand the distinction. For example, just as Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists aren't assumed to follow Unitarian beliefs (who for example do not believe that Jesus is the son of God), Reform interpretations of Jewish values are far outside the mainstream. Judaism's rich traditions and ideas originate from the Bible, even if some Jews don't accept all its parts.

Just like Unitarians don’t get to speak for all Christians, Reform “rabbis” do not speak for all Jews. Their status as clergy isn’t even recognized in Israel, and it surely isn’t recognized by traditional streams of Judaism.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Robert Auld's avatar

"Tess Jam" is likely another incarnation of "Freedom Lover". Both post the same things over and over and constantly try to provoke arguments.

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nonwo's avatar

“Israel obsession???”

IDF rape little boys than stick zuchini coated in pigs blood up their rectums!! And don’t den it, this is just what those psycotic deranged SOBs are known for.

They are the most hated country in the world. Go live there if you support them so much

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I bought 42 books last year and bought a number of new ones this year, too..I am overwhelmed with reading matter. My focus really is on nutrition and health, which has been my passion for 64 years. The Creator who made the entire world...made all human beings, animals and all life. People separate themselves worldwide, but we are all children of One Creator. It would be wonderful if people all loved the Creator who made the world. i was taught our Creator loved us...and we are supposed to love the Creator and ask for guidance. No more separation from our One Source! Peace on Earth!

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ Perhaps you should look into the Talmud and the open hatred of "goyim", …”

I have NO doubt that you read Hebrew and will readily substantiate your LIE with an appropriate quote 🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

It’s all over the place. The Talmud has been revealed as a goyim hating piece of work a long time ago.

Critical mass yet? No, but it will happen.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Religion has separated mankind, it is the Tower of Babel. I have heard people say, "Mine is the only way!" I believe, if you are a good person and do good works, the Father-Crestor whose Energy manifested you and is within you... knows and loves you. Matt 22:35-40 is the Essence of the Bible...it is LOVE! Love the One who created the world and sll living things. and go to the Creator for guidance. I have depended on the Creator for almost 88 years, since i was 4 years old. I have seen many miracles happen in my life and know that i am never alone. What I got from reading the Bible...Judge not lest ye be judged, We are not to sit in judgment of anyone. The Creator does not judge us. It is written in the Bible that when we make our transition, our own souls will bear testimony for or against us. Our own souls are the silent witness within...How many really try to live up to their highest potential and want to do something to benefit the world? We sre here to help take care of the world...and not destroy it. There are good people and bad in every religion. An Egyptian prince by the name of Moses brought the 10 Commandments...and I believe they were good rules, except for #1. I don't believe our Creator is a jealous God...I believe our Creator is s loving Creator.who gave us a beautiful world.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

I am sure, you can provide quotes directly from the Talmud 😂🤣🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

Here are some- Be careful what you wish for😘

1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

4. Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

5. Libbre David 37: "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death."

6. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

7. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

8. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

9. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

10. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

11. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

12. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia

13: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

13. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

15. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

16. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

17. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

18. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

19. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible. "

20. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples." 

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nonwo's avatar

There is nothing as vicious as the Talmud

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Freedom Lover's avatar

I don’t doubt that you read Hebrew and can provide us quotes from there. 😂🤣🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

The Koran devotes a lot of print to Jesus. That he was a good man, a good prophet. No where in the Koran do they vilify Christianity

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Freedom Lover's avatar

In Koran, “they” don’t vilify Judaism either. They even acknowledge that Israel was given to Jews by God 😉

I am sure you know this, right?

https://rumble.com/v3q0g1j-a-saudi-says-that-the-palestinians-are-not-arab-and-that-this-land-belongs-.html

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nonwo's avatar

Are you a Middle East Jew or a pagan?

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nonwo's avatar

Israel is not for pagans.

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nonwo's avatar

“A Saudi says” great source!!🤣

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Vanessa Cunningham's avatar

Except the part about killing all the infidels.

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nonwo's avatar

Did you know the Koran says debt and interest is a sin because it destroys families? Islamic banking charges NO INTEREST RATES.

So if you were to borrow $200,000 to build a home, that loan over a 30 yr period would cost you $200,500.

Here in the U.S. that same loan would cost you close to $600,000. Get it?

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CB's avatar

Interest is simply, as wannabe prez Kamala might repeat ten times, the significance of the passage of time. Or as the old saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Something available for use now is always worth more than the same thing in the future (a future you might not even see). And time value can rationally go almost to infinity--for someone dying of thirst in a desert, a canteen of water now is worth infinitely more than the same canteen a year from now.

All that aside, why do you say a $200,000 loan at no interest should cost you $200,500? Isn't the $500 still interest, just at a very low rate?

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Have you ever thought that you may be missing something? Just asking 🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

Don’t you think certain banking institutions don’t like that?

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Nov 3Edited

This is who you have to blame PLEASE WATCH- the source of all this “immigrant hatred”

Barbara Spector “Europe is too white and it’s up to the Jews to rectify that”

Out of the mouth of babes

Decades ago.

Look at how the interviewer is repulsed.

https://yandex.com/video/touch/preview/4510615838843124898

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“This is who you have to blame PLEASE WATCH- the source of all this “immigrant hatred”

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jOYl_AxvFk

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“This is who you have to blame PLEASE WATCH- the source of all this “immigrant hatred”

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1972734678659658010

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“This is who you have to blame PLEASE WATCH- the source of all this “immigrant hatred”

Hahahaha could not you find less educated commentator? What was this?? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Can I get back minutes of my life 🤯🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬🤡😘

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Great!! Now go watch massacres of Druze in Syria, Christians in Nigeria, Coptic’s in Egypt, … Yazids in Iraq.

Glad that Koran contradicts all this REALITY.

https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/63601

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nonwo's avatar

at least you know that Christian’s are safe

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nonwo's avatar

Source please

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Vanessa Cunningham's avatar

Barbara, look up the concept of taqiyya. They are allowed even encouraged to lie to advance Islam.

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The Underdog's avatar

“I don’t judge people at all” immediately followed by “I am very leery of those who follow the Koran” is the most flipflop contradictory shit yet.

Sounds like zionist propaganda. Fuck off.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

You are vulgar and crude that's for sure! Those who are following the Koran think it is alright to murder Infidels, an Infidel is someone who does not believe in the Koran and Islam. So, this is alright with you! You are totally immoral to believe in murdering someone who does not believe in Islam. I am not into organized religion, but I do believe in the Creator who made the world and all life, including you. I do believe in the Ten Commandments and it is wrong to lie...which is bearing false witness...a major Commandment.

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Nov 3Edited

Wrong!! They say that if the infidels come to the place of worship pretending they are good Muslims but want

to do bad to them.

Have you read violent parts of the bible? It gets much worse than that. The mere fact you are parroting Jewish media is sad. Not a thought of your own. Have you ever met a violent Muslim? I havnt in 71 years. Every single one has been gracious.

My husbands doctor - Christian- was shocked when she went to a doctors conference in Iran. They offered all the visiting doctors/ and there were about 100- to stay in their own homes, not hotels, for delicious Persian food and accommodations.

Stop listening to the Jewish owned media. They hate Muslims and Christians. ( talk about pretending to like someone to infiltrate their group!)

Why do they hate both religions? Christianity and Islam are against usury, debt, putting families in desperate situations by paying interest their whole life. Judaism is for that.

Nothing more.

Please research.

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Are you aware of what is going on in Europe with the Muslims? Girls and women can't leave their homes without fear of being attacked. It is horrible in England, France, Sweden, etc. Every country that has permitted Muslims into their country have seen crime escalate...and they want them gone. Muslims aren't into education, so they have their hands out, when they enter a country. Obama gave Muslim families $26,000 and nothing for needy American citizens. Muslims can act very nice, until they get into a large number. Their agenda is breed and take over the world...than all Infidels will be gone! I have very strong gut feelings...and I listen to them. The first time I heard Obama speak, my gut feeling said, "Con Artist!" He sure was...set up by George Soros who has caused economic chaos worldwide.

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nonwo's avatar

Muslims aren’t into education? Their agenda is breed and take over the world??

LMFAO!! Where in the world do you get this from? I have never heard such stupidly!! Please tell me where you get your news.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I am into the Creator who made the world and all life...and I have never joined a religious organization. As far as the Bible goes, I am a reader and I have read it , but I also have read thousands of other books as a reader for 83 years. If you had done any reading, you would have read the Life of Mohammad who was a camel robber...who went into Mecca to attack it...and he was defeated. He then had nothing and was taken in by a Hebrew tribe...and then when he got together more men...He asked the tribe to helo him attack Mecca. When they didn't want to do it, he had his men slaughter the people who took him in and he gave their daughters and wives to his men. He also had 9 wives, his youngest wife was 6 years old. and she was his favorite. When he invited guests to his house, he fed them then had them to leave, because he wanted to be with his wives. Does this man sound like a prophet to anyone? What did he do that made him a prophet? He did not write the Koran. Three hundred years later, some wealthy people decided to turn him into a prophet in order to make money. Its always the same thing in every religion. Follow the money. Constantine did it with the Roman Catholic Church...follow the money all the way down to the Vatican ....the richest little municipality in the world. The Hebrews left Egypt and while Moses was up on Mt Sinai...the Hebrews were working on a. Golden Calf to worship. Its always the same thing...follow the money! ..2000 years ago a spiritual teacher walked and he brought a message. He promoted our Creator..Our Father hallowed be his Name..Matt 5:9..and did not ask his disciples to carry. a purse and collect money to build a church. He didn't even know the word church. He had gone into the temple with a whip to drive out the moneychangers...and said that the pharisees had turned the father's house into a business. Religions are all business organizations...collecting money. It says in the Bible...not to stand in a synagogue (Greek word meaning gathering place) and pray. It says go into your closet (room) shut the door...and the Father which seeth in secret shall reward you openly. Matt 6: 5. I happen to follow the Messiah's teachings that lived 2000 years ago. to love the Father first and foremost... He replied to the lawyer in Matt 22:35-40. Love the One who made the world and all life with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your soul. I am totally into loving the One who made this glorious world..and don't want to see it destroyed by religious fanatics.

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nonwo's avatar

Oh my goodness that is quite a story you have there about Mohammad. Where did you get that from? If you have a book, name and author please.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

You sound like Jew-hater, terrorist-lover. Follow your own advice 😁🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

Admit you are getting paid Hasbara. We all are very disappointed you are dirtying up Substack. You’ve already taken over “x”

Are you getting paid $7000 per post?

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And among the hypocrites are those who have built a mosque in order to injure Islam and help disbelief and cause a division among the believers, and prepare an ambush for him who warred against Allah and His Messenger before this. And they will surely swear: ‘We meant nothing but good;’ but Allah bears witness that they are certainly liars.

Sounds good to me.

Here is the explanation of Chapter 9.

https://www.alislam.org/quran/app/9:102

The Bible is also violent- this from Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence

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"I don't judge people at all, if they are nice, I like them; if they aren't I keep away from them."

Depends what you mean by "nice". This may be fine for choosing who to play with in social activity, but it is terribly naive for navigating politics and being a responsible voter or more. The worst psychopaths are among the most slickly polished and intelligent con artists, while the most socially inept can be be unwittingly incapable of conning anyone, and, even if only to protect themselves, stick to simplistic honesty.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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IMO, you're 100% correct. More of us need to listen to the words of good Jewish people like ilan Pappe, Jeffrey Sachs, Gideon Levy, Yakov Rabkin, Mark Etkind, Katie Halper and David Grossman - to name just a few of many.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahaha by what standard do you judge “good”

Katie Halper wisely gave you a hit, that you clearly or deliberately missed. Her show is called Useful Idiots

Thank you for admitting 🤡😘

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What has Katie Halper said and or done that causes you to speak derogatively of her? We all, on occasions, say and do things we later regret. I think we need to step through minor issues we have with one another and focus on unity - and of course the war we're engaged in with the psychopathic, money/power worshipping cabal that's intent on driving the world into totalitarianism. After all, our numbers are the only weapon we really have and the more we fall victim to their 'divide and conquer', the less effective our weapon becomes.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ What has Katie Halper said and or done that causes you to speak derogatively of her?”

Point to me what have I written that make you interpret as speaking derogatory about Katie, please?

That said, I am having a hard time to think of a single thing, which Katie EVER said that had basis in Reality and was not a fallacy.

The name of her program could not describe the program more precise 🤷‍♂️

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"Hahahaha by what standard do you judge “good” Her show is called Useful Idiots Thank you for admitting 🤡😘"

"That said, I am having a hard time to think of a single thing, which Katie EVER said that had basis in Reality and was not a fallacy.

The name of her program could not describe the program more precise 🤷‍♂️"

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Freedom Lover's avatar

What part of it is incorrect? 🤔

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Beyond Spin's avatar

Ironically some of the most fervent Kahanists are Mizrahi (Arab) Jews. Ben Gvir is the most obvious example. His mother is from Iraq. Such Mizrahi Jews have historically been seen as inferior by the Ashkenazi elite class and were discriminated against. Consequently to be more accepted, these Mizrahi Jews gave up their own cultural backgrounds and felt the need to vehemently hate any and all Arabs to be better accepted by the ruling elite Ashkenazi class. These Kahanist Mizrahi Jews are truly self-hating Jews.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Any evidence of this insane spin, Beyong Spin? 😁🤡😘

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Beyond Spin's avatar

Nothing "insane" about this "spin" at all. Jewish historian Ilan Pappe was just discussing this in his recent interview with Chris Hedges on this very subject. Here's the relevant clip from that interview: https://youtu.be/DBYepHHHCQc

Though, no doubt, you have no real understanding of the history of this region. So, here are two blogs I wrote on the actual history. That actual history deviates quite a bit from the mythology that all of us Jews learned as part of our Zionist indoctrination.

-When lies become one's truth

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth

-When truth doesn’t match reality

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/when-truth-doesnt-match-reality/

As I noted in this second blog's first paragraph,

"Back on January 12th, on my FB wall, I shared a quote by Batya Gallant pertaining to Middas ha’emes, a Hebrew phrase that means “the attribute of truth.” As both a Jew and someone with autistic tendencies, I passionately pursue the truth, despite the consequences. So, this phrase and quote means a lot to me..."

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ Jewish historian Ilan Pappe was just discussing this in his recent interview with Chris Hedges on this very subject.”

So, what makes what Ilan Pappe said true? That he is Jewish? Supposedly historian? That he said it on the Chris Hedges show?

Do you realize that every piece of your argument is FALLACY called argument from authority?

“… no doubt, you have no real understanding of the history of this region.“

I have no doubt that you have some fundamental factious basis to jump to this FALSE conclusion.

So, as someone who speak in fallacies, you have something insightful to say in your links.

I’ll read, when I get a minute, and will get back to you.

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Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. You're obviously just a zealot, who wouldn't know what the truth was if it bit you in your ignorant tuchus. Yet, you ramble on incoherently about fallacies. Though, thanks for the laugh. Your inane ironic gibberish is very amusing.

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Not only I “ramble” about fallacies, I provide concrete examples. I am sure you would have noticed if you knew anything.

“You're obviously just a zealot, who wouldn't know what the truth was if it bit you in your ignorant tuchus.”

Great!! Enlighten, please, what is truth? 🤔😉🤡😘

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Ever live with an out of control teenager? You show real love by setting limits while at the same time, tell them there is nothing they can ever do that will make me stop loving them.

—-

To the nation of Israel: You are a a wayward rebellious child currently drunk with pride and power; and skilled with lies and manipulation against guilty Mom and Dad. But without our protection you would cease to exist. We do not appreciate going to war to defend what you have unwisely provoked, resulting in millions of lives ended, to say nothing of the cost to us in hard earned dollars. And that extermination of the people in your midst who you consider vermin living in the outdoor prison you pushed them in to? You want that? That’s on your own dime, buddy. And I will be sending food to those vermin children you are starving. I am ashamed to be supporting you the bully pretending to be the victim. I do not believe in child abuse. So I am taking away the credit cards, the car, and all the other goodies and protection under our name that makes your current lifestyle possible.

No more. This is for your own good. We love you but not your behaviors.

( ps do not try and pull that anti semite BS on us. You mined the deep vein of guilt that any loving parent has, but as we watch you destroy yourself and you don’t even know that is what you are doing, it won’t work anymore. You need to get a hold of yourself and act right, turn over the keys and the credit card cards right now.)

Love, Mom and Dad

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nonwo's avatar

We could only wish.

Apparently the U.S. thinks it’s money well spent. Israel is a stationary U.S. air force base smack dab in the middle of the oil producing countries.

They help maintain U.S. hegemony there. The U.S. arms, fuels and everything else at that pit stop during wars, coups, assassinations. We control the oil and OPEC from Israel.

Even with all the shit the world puts up with Israel, and they are truly an obnoxious entity, the U.S. thinks they are getting a bargain.

As soon as the U.S. stops thinking this, Israel is toast. It will take them about a week to dry up and blow away.

This is one reason Israel hates Iran so much. They are so afraid of Iran replacing them as US most favored nation.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Martix's avatar

All this mess is due to the fact that we ignore that we are one, regardless of our external appearances and life styles. We can trace all the civilizations, beliefs and religions to a single root. The problems started when a group decided that it is better than the other and it is the chosen people of God. It is amazing that the Israeli and the Cristian God would give «10 commandments» to «Moses» (the African Musha or Masha), the «person» who is believed to have lived in an African Palace, where there was a King and laws, where everybody would be expected to follow the 42 principles of Maat, which already included the so called «10 commandments» (https://iseumsanctuary.com/2017/10/11/the-laws-and-ideals-of-maat/). So, is it God or the Africans who gave the commandments to «Moses»?

Wake up you fools, we are all the chosen people of the same divine Creator (First, for over 3 million years, in Matriarchal societies it was called Goddess, then, for the past few thousands years, when the societies were turned into Patriarchal it became God). All religions sprang from the same African source. Those who tried to recreate convenience religions («Judaism» «Christianity» and «Islam») did commit PLAGIARY, when they tried to conceal their African roots. It is ok to copy and learn from others, but trying to hide the sources is blatant PLAGIARY. Jews came from the African Ius, the followers of the IuSu spirituality. Iu (spiritual and physical dimensions); Su (son/daughter of). Iusu (child of both spiritual and physical world - Iesu, Jesus). Ius - Jews (the original Jews are African, but it is ok for anyone to become Ius/Jews). It is unfortunate that the so-called current Jews do not want to be honest about their real African origin. Truth is all liberating. The Karast - Krest - Chrestian - Christian (African act of wrapping mummies in white linen to represent purity, to symbolise iternity and in preparation for spiritual resurrection). Mes - Mesu - Messiah (anointing the mummies with oils and perfumes in preparation for spiritual resurrection). Adam - Atum - the origin (atom, the smallest functional particle that is the origin of life and of everything in the Universe - the building block). Eve - African Khefa (Khefa, also known as Kefa, is described as the Great Mother, representing the primal female force and the origin of all living things).

Do you see that we are one people and that there is no need to be fighting among us to defend God/Goddess? Our Creator does not need us to kill one another to protect him/her. If we all unite, we will be able to defeat the evil scum bags globalists who want to destroy us, regardless of our countries, races, religions, traditions, civilizations and you name it. We have to use the brain our Creator gave to us to protect ourselves, instead of destroying ourselves. Let´s use our intelligence and be wiser. We are one humankind, no matter what we believe, who we are, where we live, whatever.

Khefa is equated with the African Eve, the Black Mother of all created beings, and is seen as the origin of all human maternal lineages, a concept supported by genetic research pointing to a common female ancestor in East Africa. This figure, often referred to as Mitochondrial Eve, is a statistical reality derived from mitochondrial DNA passed from mother to daughter, tracing all living humans back to a single woman in Africa (https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/AncientEgyptTheLightOfTheWorld_GMassey.pdf). We´re all brothers and sisters and we´re all part of one another.

Respect! Justice! Love! Peace!

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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ddsasdasad's avatar

You and 25 likes, and every 2 restacks and all comments that agree with you are antisemitic

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xnwswe's avatar

You have 23 likes, and everyone agrees with you in the comments; they are all anti-Semitic.

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nonwo's avatar

Hey Hasbara, another Hasbara made the same comment below

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ They hide behind the term call “Jew” so why attempt to discuss them is seen as ‘antisemitic.’

Hahahaha This is a super deep point. Why would non-Jews want to be perceived as Jews and hated by the likes of YOU? 🤔🤡😘

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Robert Auld's avatar

"Freedom Lover" is a troll. Note the constant sarcasm and attempts to promote argument. You will get nowhere by engaging with them. Do not feed the troll.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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nonwo's avatar

I see your point however the interest charged here is usury.

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nonwo's avatar

However, if he wants to open Pandora’s box, let him. My information is factual.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“Freedom Lover" is a troll. Note the constant sarcasm and attempts to promote argument.”

Hahahaha yea, notice someone who relies on facts and logic in arguments.

Losers do not get involved because they are clueless losers. Right Robert Auld?

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nonwo's avatar

Funny Hasbara. When you challenge them you hear…nothing. They are told to stop the convo because more will be revealed about them.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Funny Jew-hater, terrorist-lover. When I challenge you, you don’t answer, you just switch to another drivel.

Is there more to be revealed about you? 😁🤡😘

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nonwo's avatar

Definitely Hasbara.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Definitely Jew-hater, terrorist-lover.

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nonwo's avatar

I didn’t know Hasbara was on substack😘

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Freedom Lover's avatar

I knew full well that Jew-hater and live for terrorists are on substack

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nonwo's avatar

Wow so creative!

My tax money is paying Congress pay, and 25% of them are Jewish. All have dual U.S. Israeli citizenship and all are Israeli firsters.

Over represented much? I thought 2% of the U.S. are Jewish.

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Rascal Nick Of's avatar

Im with George Washington regarding avoiding foreign entanglements and Dwight Eisenhower regarding being wary of the military-industrial complex, and with both of them and Tucker Carlson regarding free speech and not wanting trillions of dollars from my nation’s treasury and blood from my nation’s army being used for dishonestly started aggressive foreign wars. The people saying you are a bad person for opposing that have a lot of innocent blood on their hands. They are the bad guys. Thats why they scream so loud and attack so viciously. And they are the ones that should be ostracized from polite society. America first.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Dan Henry's avatar

Facts, focus on the facts…

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ Im with George Washington regarding avoiding foreign entanglements and Dwight Eisenhower regarding being wary of the military-industrial complex, and with both of them and Tucker Carlson regarding free speech …”

You are?? Oh, noooo.

When was the last time Tucker Qatarson interviewed pro-Israeli expert?

What about that FAKE Christian Qatarson worrying about mass murder of Christians by Islamists? Not in Israel, the only Democracy in the Middle East where Christians prosper and which shameless Qatarson FALSELY disparage?

Any deep thoughts about that, Rascal Nick?

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Velociraver's avatar

You're delusional, nothing you stated has any basis in fact. Perhaps watch any of the THOUSANDS of videos of observant Jews spitting on, attacking and tormenting Chrisitans at the Temple Mount.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Videos made in Palywood? 😁

How many Christians were murdered in Israel in any time period you wish to look at?

Now, how many Christians were murdered in the territories controlled by Palestinian terrorists in the same time period?

What about how many Christians were murdered in the rest of the Middle East and Africa by your kind in the same time period?

“ Christian Persecution in Africa and Middle East

Recent reports indicate a significant and ongoing increase in the murder of Christians across Africa, particularly in Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), with violence driven by Islamist militant groups. Over 22,000 Christian fatalities were recorded in Africa between June 2024 and June 2025, with Nigeria being the epicenter of the violence In Nigeria, more than 7,000 Christians were killed in the first 220 days of 2025 alone, according to the International Society for Civil Liberties and the Rule of Law (Intersociety) The Middle East remains a region of severe persecution, though the scale of killings in sub-Saharan Africa now surpasses that of the Middle East in numerical terms

- **Nigeria**: The violence is primarily attributed to Boko Haram, its splinter group ISWAP (Islamic State West Africa Province), and Fulani herder militias. The Middle Belt, especially Benue State, has been severely affected, with the Yelewata massacre in June 2025 resulting in 280 Christian deaths The Intersociety report claims that 7,800 Christians were abducted in the same period, and the violence has displaced at least 12 million Christians since 2009 The Nigerian government has dismissed some claims about foreign terrorist links, but the U.S. Department of State continues to list ISIS-West Africa, Boko Haram, and Ansaru as active groups

- **Democratic Republic of the Congo**: The Islamic State Central Africa Province (ISCAP) has intensified attacks, claiming responsibility for the killing of at least 590 Christians since Christmas 2024 In August 2025, a church attack in Komanda, Ituri Province, led to a mass burial of victims, with most deaths occurring in the Beni and Lubero districts of North Kivu Earlier in September 2025, ISCAP carried out a raid on Ntoyo village, killing up to 102 Christians The group has also released a propaganda film boasting of its efforts to expel Christians, burn churches, and force conversions

- **Other Regions**: In Burkina Faso, at least 24 people were killed and 18 injured in a church attack linked to Al-Qaeda during a Sunday worship service In eastern Kenya, extremists executed Christians on a public bus While the Middle East continues to experience severe persecution, including sexual violence and enslavement, the most recent data shows that the number of Christian killings in Africa now exceeds those in the Middle East

The situation remains fluid, with reports from different organizations sometimes presenting conflicting figures or interpretations. The term "Christian genocide" is used by some advocacy groups but remains a contested narrative, with some sources questioning the veracity of specific claims As of November 2025, the humanitarian crisis and security situation for Christian communities in these regions continue to deteriorate.”

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Leslie M's avatar

Why is “Christian genocide” a “contested narrative”?

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ You're delusional, nothing you stated has any basis in fact.”

Hahahaha, you are a clueless demagogue, troll.

Define “fact” 😁

Name Muslim countries in which Christians served in their Parliaments and on the Supreme Court.

I’ll be waiting 🤡😘

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Karen Russo's avatar

Carlson has smeared himself. He owns it.

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Charles InCharge's avatar

Defend a position. “Vicious antisemitism” couldn’t be farther off the mark as far as a fact-based datapoint.

Specifically, what did he say that was antisemitic? His words, not your opinion of his intentions.

Your comment only proves the point of those who believe your position is emotionally charged rhetoric.

Many of us are happy to hear intelligent arguments, but not hyperbolic angst. Do better.

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Karen Russo's avatar

This alone is a huge problem .. he knows damned well that linking Kirk’s murder to Jesus was anti-Semitic in nature because the world is full of idiots who hate Jews over this (even though Jesus was Jewish and it was the Roman’s who killed him.). Please tell me which of his anti-Semitic crap you’re ok with?

https://www.jta.org/2025/09/22/united-states/tucker-carlson-tells-story-about-murder-of-jesus-at-charlie-kirks-memorial-igniting-criticism

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Sit down. Christ was God, not an ethnicity. Period. God in the flesh, to save all who followed Him, not those who rejected God the Son (JESUS CHRIST in case you missed that in your warped Scofield indoctrination) as their Savior. Shame on you. Parroting nonsense just makes you blasphemous and confused about what's right and true. The only way to God is through His Son. Couldn't be more clear. If that's not clear enough for you, read John 8:44. If that's not clear enough for you, learn history.

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Karen Russo's avatar

GFY ..you don’t get to tell me what to do. Idiot. You really are an idiot.

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denise ward's avatar

How about you start that off - tell us what you're not ok with.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Charles InCharge's avatar

Carlson makes fair points. Worthy of thorough debate. If rebuttal is defendable, then get to gettin’, “defend!”

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Karen Russo's avatar

Oh please .. Just go watch his last podcast with Fuentes . He makes no attempt to hide his vicious anti-semitism .. and trust me, it’s not going unnoticed and he permanently alienated a good chunk of his supporters.

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denise ward's avatar

So what though? Jews hate Muslims, who says you can't hate? Our emotions are for us to decide. Perhaps Zionists deserve being hated on. They call anything antisemitism while they slaughter innocent people in the name of their (Zionists') victimhood. The media doesn't talk much about Zionist atrocities, more holocausts than what happened to them that they are perpetrating towards several countries. They are a scourge on the earth and anyone with any objectivity can see it. I'm not suggesting they be banished, I'm saying who cares if someone says anti-Zionist things? How about anti Muslim sentiment, or anti-white sentiment, or anti-dog or anti-anything. Zionists are inbred and mentally unstable. If they didn't have so much money, if they couldn't pay people off, if they didn't own most of the media, they would be hated even more.

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Karen Russo's avatar

I’m not going to love people who consistently advocate for my destruction. That’s not emotional , that’s fact. If Muslims laid down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace. If Israeli jews did, they’d be wiped out. See the difference?

Furthermore .. you should be paying more attention to what Muslims become as they gain significant numbers in any country dumb enough to let them in. You know, like the UK.

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Velociraver's avatar

Basing your take on the Middle East conflict on a bumper sticker slogan is infantile. Zionism was declared a racist ideology at the UN in 1975, nothing has changed..genocide is still genocide and the perpetrators in Israel, UK and USA (entire Biden and Trump regimes) should hang by their necks at The Hague..YOU should be forced to watch.

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Karen Russo's avatar

And you nor anyone else will be forcing me to do anything. Be careful who you threaten.

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Karen Russo's avatar

Claiming it’s a bumper sticker slogan and not reality is evil. Period.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Amazing how people deliberately conflate Zionism with Judaism. Orthodox Jews know the difference.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

I don't see it the same way. Dave Smith voted for Trump. I think the world is simply looking on at the deaths of thousands of children in Gaza and saying not okay.

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Laurie Rigg's avatar

The documentary Europa The Last Battle demonstrates clearly who the victims of WW1 and2 were. The true victims were the 60million to 100mlllion Russian Orthodox Christians, Muslims, slaughtered by the Bolshevik jews. (Communists). Would this be considered a holocaust? What about the 4+million Ukrainians starved to death but the same Communists? Would this be a holocaust?

What about Judea declaring war on Germany in 1933, declaring that every German man, woman and child should be killed? The Israeli call to kill every Palestinian man, woman and child echoes the sentiment is of their ancestors in 1933 Germany.

Watch the documentary if you can. It is shocking and horrifying. Truth always has a way of leaking out.

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Julie's avatar

That may be, but calling someone an anti semite bc they don’t agree on every point is starting to remind me of progressives who name call anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with them. I support Israel, but not blindly or unconditionally, no matter what. So in my mind, there’s room for debate, and I appreciate hearing it.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

I agree, but 1. They don’t have any proof for making Israel the bad guy in every scenario; it’s all hints and innuendo, and 2. why aren’t they going after corruption with the globalists and the American government? Also 3., Israel is a small nation, and is a Western, liberal type nation, surrounded by bloodthirsty enemies. I wondered why it was such a bloodbath on October 7, I thought surely most Israelis would have guns and be prepared. But, no, the area that was raided was a left-leaning area. They were largely anti-gun and believed that peace with Palestine could be achieved. There are many Palestinians and Arabs who live and work in Israel, but you will find no living Jews in Palestine.

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Steven Work's avatar

".. But, no, the area that was raided was a left-leaning area. They were largely anti-gun and believed that peace with Palestine could be achieved. ."

Thank you. I didn't have the puzzle piece yet. So, do you think the "Hannibal Doctrine" was ordered so that the israel military would have a chance to mass-murder those anti-war lefties? If so, it seems to have worked - the missile and gatling-gun war-helicopters destroyed so many cars and the people in them .. did they figure that the more israeli civilians the military kills the larger the outrage when they blamed it on Hamas. Remember all the other Oct7th lies Zionists told; mass rape, 6 million beheaded babies, etc.?

I would like the UNGA to spend a week reviewing that last 75 years of Zionism Poison - all the terrorism, mass-murder, livelihood destruction, taking Palestinian's homes, land, murdering family members, ..

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.. And then the UNGA would vote again on if such a Satanic presence should not be disintegrated (end Nationhood) and all the Zionists on Palestinian land be gone within a week, only taking 6 carry-on bags of property, what is left is Palestinian owned.

The UN has been useless when facing genocide by the legally immune Zionists, but UNGA vote can end the Genocide in Gaza, and the sunshine of Peace my rise.

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Lee Vail's avatar

Yep, you're first names aptly describes you.

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Karen Russo's avatar

And attacking someone over their name says a lot about you .. you are like a drooling 5 yr old playground bully … pathetic.

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Lee Vail's avatar

I'll go one step farther; deranged idiot suits you. Have you any respect for the First Amendment? Obviously not.

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Vanessa Cunningham's avatar

no, she's making the valid point that happens EVERY time, when people have no cogent argument, they resort to name calling. Do better.

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Karen Russo's avatar

Ooooohhhh ouch … you burned me 🙄

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Liberty Liz's avatar

There's no such thing as anti-semitism. You can stop throwing around useless trigger words that no one cares about anymore to make a point you don't have. Until you have factual data and respect for the first amendment, sit down. Regurgitating the BS lamestream wh0re media narrative and low-IQ mind control talking points that are baseless (and worthless) just makes you an NPC, unable to discern anything for what it really is.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Your opinion is valid.

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Karen Russo's avatar

Eat dirt bitch. I loathe people like you.

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Vanessa Cunningham's avatar

Do better Karen

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Karen Russo's avatar

How about you go listen to that podcast Carlson did with Fuentes? Maybe YOU need to do better .. Vanessa.

But anyway, at the end of a long, fawning interview with neo-Nazi podcaster Nick Fuentes, he went on a rant about how much he hates Christian Zionists for being heretics. He’s an evil man. Period.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Feeling's mutual.

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Lone Star's avatar

Well, at least we now know how you think, John. Perhaps research Qatar’s “outsize influence “ and the other discussions of Carlson’s about Jews. Dig deeper, John. I am sure you are capable of it.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

I agree. I am saddened by this; I thought John was a truth-seeker.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Charles InCharge's avatar

Well, at least you’re giving a specific example… (but once again, not a specific quote to be had).

I give up.

Mark Twain quotes about arguing w/a fool are yelling in my ear.

Have a great weekend! I’m out

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Karen Russo's avatar

You got caught playing a stupid game and everyone knows it.

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Karen Russo's avatar

You’re doing exactly what I knew you would do .. nothing I give you would be good enough while you claim the moral high ground. You’re doing exactly the same thing he does.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

And you can't substantiate anything of value, "Karen", because you quote people's "emotions" or "feelings", not facts. Who cares how some people "responded" to something someone said. Grab your pacifier, have your diaper changed, and take a handful of meds to soothe your "feelings". Good grief.

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Karen Russo's avatar

There it is .. every single time a retard like you is forced to resist to such infantile tactics, it’s crystal clear that you’ve lost the argument and that’s the best you can do. You’re hilarious .. an absolute joke.

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Tess Jam's avatar

EXACTLY!!!

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Freedom Lover's avatar

💯%

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Charles InCharge's avatar

“When the argument is lost 🤔 the insults begin.” (Paraphrasing Socrates)

It is just so transparent….

As far as Trump, when those on the right criticize Trump it is line item critiquing. (A privilege intelligent people afford each other). Further, MAGA people support MAGA line items, NOT TRUMP. When he’s “on point”🤔(?) we praise him, but when he’s off 🤔(?) we criticize.

The point is this- WE ARE NOT the cult the left accuses. Prove in spades by that very obvious fact.

Alex Jones owes Trump nothing, nor the others. It is not hatred for Trump to sound the alarm when I’m he’s off the target. Rather, it’s a gift.

The fact you can’t see it identifies everything we need to see/hear/know.

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reality speaks's avatar

There is a full court press that is highly coordinated to attack Tucker Carlson? Why is that? I do not know this Fuentes guy at all and have not listen to the 2 hour podcast Tucker did with him. But all of the same people who attacked him over Daryl Cooper are attacking again and they all claim the same bogus antisemitism claim but I have listen to Tucker and he isn’t antisemite he is anti useless wars anywhere In the world and especially the Middle East. He has been very consistent in that so why the coordinated attacks? Is he onto something that the DC Swamp doesn’t want exposed?

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Liberty Liz's avatar

The "attacks" are consistent because BoomBoomBiBi and his ilk PAY others to attack anyone with a differing opinion about what's going on in the M E and the world. It's called targeting, social engineering, brainwashing, and infringement of the first amendment.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ There is a full court press that is highly coordinated to attack Tucker Carlson?”

Maybe because of a full court press by Tucker Carlson aka Qatarson a highly coordinated attack of Jew-gate?

Remind me when was the last time you’ve seen Qatarson interviewing a pro-Israel expert. 🤔

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Peter W Allen's avatar

God bless you John: Carlson has the courage (and independence) to speak the truth regarding Israel because he knows they (Aispac, et al) cannot crush him. And now you applaud the truth spoken. Well done. We all know as do all Zionists, et al, that Israel foments war deliberately and has since 1948 for a Greater Israel. They have the A bomb, and yet tell their neighbors, slaugther their neighbors, for equal ambitions. Tucker's thesis, total withdrawal from support for Israel is exactly right: we have no national interest in thier territorial ambitions and slaughter of their neighbors. The Israel's have no interest in democracy, no interest in a state independent of religion, both fundamental to our Western Heritage. They are eastern in nature, and suppresive and hostile to western norms, relying on 'anti-semitism' as their banner.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ God bless you John: Carlson has the courage (and independence) to speak the truth …”

Hahahaha Tucker Qatarson has what?? And he is speaking what??

Remind me when was the last time you’ve seen Qatarson interviewing a pro-Israel expert. 🤔

Truth my a$$ 🤬

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Dan Henry's avatar

Hey hasbara tool, fits you to a tee!

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Now that's an intelligent comment Aaahahahahahaha

Hi Jew-hater, terrorist-lover.

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Lee Vail's avatar

Carlson is absolutely correct about Netanyahu and the Likud Party. Bibi is a war criminal.

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Cia Parker's avatar

He is not. He has been the best possible leader Israel could have had, strong, resolute, clever, courageous. I admire and respect him.

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denise ward's avatar

You're on the wrong side of history. He's the epitome of Satan and I don't even believe in Satan.

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Jeck's avatar

I agree, except that I do believe in Satan.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahahaha

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ You're on the wrong side of history.”

And you are a Jew-hater, terrorist-lover. 🤡😘

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Nancy M's avatar

I completely agree with you John! As an American born Jewish American , I completely support Tucker Carlson and courageously calling out the people who are supporting genocide!

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denise ward's avatar

Much respect for saying that. We need more people to simply be against killing our own kind.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

By Your “own kind,” you mean Islamists? Yea, your comments are revealing without your admission 🤡😘

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denise ward's avatar

No, you are misinterpreting what she meant. By our own kind means humans, of which species I assume you are a member of.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

I did? Hmmm

"What happened in Syria? They raped a 5-year-old girl. They entered a holy place where women were hiding, and burned them alive. They killed, beheaded, it was pure cleansing. This is only because they are Druze and do not believe as they do.”

— Druze leader Sheikh Muwafaq Tarif

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Freedom Lover's avatar

You do? Define genocide, Nancy🤬

There are precisely ZERO Jews living in territories controlled by Palestinian terrorists. Not genocide? 🤯🤬

Hamas codified its eternal purpose in its Charter in green on white: genocide the last Jew in the WORLD, that’s including “wise” you, Nancy.

“Stupid is what stupid does” Forrest Gump’s wise mama

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Nancy M's avatar

I’m talking about the 20,000 innocent civilians which include mostly children and even toddlers that were called Hamas-they also included journalists and other nationalities that live there.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ I’m talking about the 20,000 innocent civilians which include mostly children and even toddlers …”

https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/64444

Funny, you take terrorists at their word. Same terrorists who did not allow civilians into tunnels, using them as human shield. Why??

You also, - conveniently? -, missed that even Hamas reduced that number by 72%:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/04/01/hamas-drops-thousands-of-deaths-from-casualty-figurures/

Now, one more time, define genocide, please 🙏

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Huh? !sraeli "settlers" have ousted Palestinians from their homes for decades, INCLUDING RIGHT NOW. If you don't understand what gen0cide is and who's committing it, you're either totally misled or psychologically impaired.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

The Zionists in the late 19th century elucidated their goals. Worth reading.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Exactly

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Drops your sources here. Elders of Zion?

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Read the papers and letters written by German Zionists stating their goals in the '20's - '80s published by Lenni Brenner. It is difficult to argue with their own words.

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denise ward's avatar

They're punks - they relish destroying Palestinian land and homes. They just take as though they think they are the chosen ones or something. They are building a huge loathing from around the world. People are starting to see why they got kicked out of so many countries.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

In case you don’t know Arabic, he speaks in English

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jOYl_AxvFk

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Liberty Liz's avatar

If it was just Palestine, you could call it a skewed perspective; but it's everything and everyone they find it their mission to destroy, including Christians... while THEY play the victim. Notice how none of those defending the war crimes and gen0cide in the M E ever mention who started, orchestrates, trains, directs, funded (and funds), etc, "hamas" (IS IS, AL queda, etc) to create the unrest, hatred and chaos - to have a [false] reason to continue their victimhood game of unrelenting gen0cide. No one dares speak of the USS Liberty, JFK, and so many heinous other crimes; nor will any of these Scofield z!os ask what happened to the hostages, many of whom are Americans and American veterans, on the flotillas trying to render humanitarian aid to starving gazans, when their ships were boarded in international waters; and these aid workers were taken hostage and imprisoned by BiBi -- for daring to render aid to a country decimated by war crimes. It's a mind boggling paradox of an absent moral compass pretending to be righteous. Not sure who's more satanically deranged - BiBi or those who support the convoluted derangement by pretending the syn@gogue of satan is an "ally" and victim.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

"What happened in Syria? They raped a 5-year-old girl. They entered a holy place where women were hiding, and burned them alive. They killed, beheaded, it was pure cleansing. This is only because they are Druze and do not believe as they do.”

— Druze leader Sheikh Muwafaq Tarif

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“but it's everything and everyone they find it their mission to destroy, including Christians …”

I am sure it will be a breeze for you to drop here your evidence right? 😂🤣

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jOYl_AxvFk

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahaha genocide of Palestinians is the only one in history where population actually grows.

On the other hand, Hamas has its ultimate goal written in its Charter in green on white: genocide the last Jew in the world. In the territories controlled by the Palestinian terrorists there are precisely ZERO, ZELCH, NADA Jews.

Let’s talk about genocide, psychologically not impacted one.

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Dan Henry's avatar

Why would anyone want to live in an area that is constantly under attack for decades by Israel?

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Exactly! Why? Aaaahahahaha What an intelligent comment! Aaahahahahaha

It looks like not for much longer to the chagrin of the Jew-haters, terrorist-lovers. Now that Arab L:eague recognized Israel's right to exist and ordered Hamas to disarm the true peace is just around the corner; like 46 years one with Egypt, 30 years one with Jordan ... Abraham's Accords ...

That's for those who have a clue ;)

From the horse's mouth (How s your Arabic, haBibi?):

https://rumble.com/v3q0g1j-a-saudi-says-that-the-palestinians-are-not-arab-and-that-this-land-belongs-.html

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Velociraver's avatar

How much does Shin Bet pay you for your shabby, fetid hasbara? Tell them you need a new script, because nobody here is listening to you 🤡

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Ok, as for pay, I am paid way less than Qatarson, -and you?? -, ZERO.

Fir the rest, speak English, please, I am not versed in your Jew-hating drivel🤡😘

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denise ward's avatar

So your love of freedom is merely for the tribe.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

This Arab woman is speaking to you, “Jew”

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JXtJF_cOvdk

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Thank you!

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Jim Ateoi's avatar

Without Islamophobia and antisemitism, Zionism would barely exist, which is why Zionists manufacture Islamophobia and antisemitism, which is why, without Zionists, Islamophobia and antisemitism would barely exist TODAY.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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xyz's avatar

I dislike Israel and Zionists and it has nothing to do with Trump.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

I agree that Lindsey Graham is not someone you want on your side, he is despicable. However, Tucker Carlson does not simply interview people, he tends to flatter them and lift them up. And he has promoted other anti- Israel folk- notably Darryl (Cooper?)self-styled historian who says that Winston Churchill was the real evil figure of WWII, and Hitler was actually a pretty good guy.

By interviewing Fuentes, he gave him a huge platform to present his lies. And Tucker seems to be obsessed with Israel. When he interviewed senator Ted Cruz, he did NOT flatter him the same way he flattered Darryl and Fuentes, he kept banging on Israel and when Cruz spoke up for it, Tucker looked like he swallowed something unsavory.

I totally disagree with you about young men being tired of the endless wars. Even though many are arguably low on testosterone, even the trans men are ready to rumble, full of anger and just looking for a target. So Tucker and Fuentes conveniently present Israel as a nice target, along with Christians. Because, as in the holocaust, Christians will be persecuted also.

I have no problem with criticizing Israel’s government. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is as evil as ours is. However, why is Israel the target? Why not Muslims who mercilessly mistreat women (and boys) and would like to kill everyone who will not convert to their religion? Israel is situated like a bullseye, for sure, totally surrounded by people who would like to contribute to its demise. Jews are periodically thrown out of countries , or have to flee for their lives. Shouldn’t they be able to go and live in the land that God gave them, that is historically theirs? There is no logical reason for this Jew hatred other than the Biblical one- Satan hates the Jews (Jesus was a Jew) and he is the prince of this world for now.

Tucker asked Ted Cruz where in the Bible it said that Israel is special to God. Poor Ted, didn’t realize he was going to be grilled on the Bible and didn’t have the chapters and verses at hand. I don’t either, but I read through the Bible yearly and I can tell you that God calls Himself “the God of Israel” and refers to Jerusalem and Israel continually, especially in the prophets, but all throughout the Bible. It does say that He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse them. Jews are just as evil as everyone else, and probably some are worse- because, once again, Satan. But when anti-semitism rises (and anti-Zionism, and many anti-Israel people are Jewish), innocent people will be killed. History repeats itself. Anyway, Israel is a test- it’s about whether you will support God or Satan. Choose your side, and reap your destiny.

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denise ward's avatar

I haven't heard of a country the Muslims invaded lately, like in the last few hundred years. Israel is behind almost all the disasters in the world. Most people know it. The gig is up even though they own most of the media.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Oh, hi Jew-hater. Do you support mass murder of Christians by Islamists in Nigeria and other African and Middle Eastern countries?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_by_the_Islamic_State

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Velociraver's avatar

Is that relevant to the charges of genocide proven against "israel"? Or their 70 year history of such?

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Proven? Hahahaha

I am sure you can drop plenty of “verified” by you drivel 🤡😘

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Steven Work's avatar

Since we know israel and the Zionists in this GreatSatan Federal Gov funded, armed, resupplied, treated injured, .. ISIS that often focuses on murdering Christians throughout the ME, Syria was the last I heard about Zionist-controlled ISIS killing Christians ..

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.. don't you think it's a good bet that Zionists are funding, arming, .. controlling Boka Routon 'Islamic' terrorists mass killing of Christians in Africa?

israel gov and 80-90 percent population actively support and do Gazan genocide, why would they not be murdering Christians in Africa using their Dogs?

Are Zionists behind Christian murders in India? Once you shoot a bunch of frightened helpless Gazan children in the far head, laughing and keeping score, why would you even pretend they wouldn't pay Boka Routon to murder Christians like israel does with ISIS?

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Oh, hi Jew-hater, Terrorist-lover.

I must admit, I’ve heard a plenty of delusional idiocies in my life. Yours are certainly up there 😂🤣🤡😘

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denise ward's avatar

You're using ad hominen and deflection to move the heat of your own lack of a case. This happens so much it is almost predictable. I always give people a chance but when someone does this, it's just so obvious. Jews are just as much fodder as goyim to the Zionists. They sacrificed Jews to get their land in Palestine.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahahaha

Define ad-hominem and deflation, Jew-hating, terrorist-lover.

You give people a chance by spewing vile LIES? Aaaahahahahaha

" Jews are just as much fodder as goyim to the Zionists. They sacrificed Jews to get their land in Palestine."

Could you provide an example, please?

Is this like Hamas not allowing civilians in tunnels to use them as human shields?

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Mary Fisher's avatar

Are you serious? What was October 7 but an invasion? And Hamas is supported by many Muslim nations. Not to mention the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria and in Sudan. Not to mention what they re doing in Britain, France, Sweden, America, and other countries, including Middle Eastern ones like Afghanistan and Iran. Have you missed all the beheadings, knife attacks, rapes and murders? Would you like to live in a Muslim country? By the way, they cut their girls private parts off when they are young and view unsliced women as “hoors”. I could give you example after example. But here’s just one:

https://substack.com/@roybentzvi/note/c-142794877?utm_source=notes-share-action

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xyz's avatar

It was a stand down to create a pretext to invade and destroy Gaza. Obvious. Most advanced surveillance system was defeated by barefooted men paragliding in? Get real.

Besides, some higher up in the Israeli government already admitted as much.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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denise ward's avatar

Trump is Jewish.

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Tess Jam's avatar

Haha, please show us the proof.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Exactly. Don't see muslims buying off and controlling every. U S politician, either, to do their bidding. Don't see muslims owning all the media, controlling the narrative and forcing others to hold their entire culture (whatever the hell that is) to some "superior class" standard. Throw a few whacked out muslims into politics and everyone's hair's on fire, content to ignore that the OTHER M E foreign "nation" controls their every move, which they're somehow OK with. Plain & simple fact: BOTH of those deranged lunatic pagan freaks should all be packed up, placed on a boat to the M E, and NEITHER ONE should have one word to say about what goes on in this country. NEITHER ONE of those freak-creature "cultures" are compatable with ANY western society or culture and need to stay in their neck of the woods, far away from those with whom they have nothing in common and with whom they're incapable of coexisting with, especially since one group of them are truly satanically possessed.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“Exactly. Don't see muslims buying off and controlling every. U S politician, either, …”

Have you ever heard: “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”? Logic is NOT your suit. Open your eyes and ears, habibi.

How many billions have Arabs poorer in US colleges?

How much have they contributed to the US politicians?

Start thinking for a change. Or are you just following sources controlled by Arab money? 🤡😘

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denise ward's avatar

Nothing compared to Zionist investment and ownership. Look in the mirror and you start thinking. Anyone who defends Israel is an enemy of humanity. And what's all this about them calling themselves the chosen ones? They speak for the mythical god. One thing going for them, the goy believe them. But I suggest, only because Zionists hold the money.

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Tess Jam's avatar

What does Zionism mean to you because you have no idea what it actually means by using it to disguise your Anti Semitism. There is no moral difference between Anti-Israel Sentiment and Antisemitism - NONE. Also disguising it as "ZIONISM" is the right of the Jewish people to live in their homeland of Israel due to widespread Anti Semitism and persecution.

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denise ward's avatar

How can you say I don't know? You have no proof of that yet you call for me to give you proof. Can you not see the discrepancy in your logic? Zionism is the craven pursuit of Palestine. Zionists don't give two hoots about Jews. They were not Jews initially, they simply hid amongst the Jews. I can hate anyone I want, as you can. Anti-semitism is swapping hate of one kind of people in order to hate another. That is Zionists can hate Muslims or Palestinians, (who are Semitic by the way) but dare you hate Zionists. Zionists hold almost all the money in the world, almost all the media and Hollywood, yet you think they need defending? They have all the voice they want, affording to advertise everywhere. Going on the highway now they are putting up these huge billboards trying to make us think they are the victims. You can't fix hate by hating some more. Have you not seen the despicable gloating of Israelis when they see Palestinian people bombed? They want to kill even the children and call them the spawn of Satan. But whatever they say, it really reflects on them - they have no compassion what so ever. And that's why they're hated. Also they like to cheat people out of money. Why do you suppose they've been kicked out of so many countries? Isn't it time for them to look at themselves before casting aspersions on what people ought to feel.

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Liberty Liz's avatar

Fuentes already had a huge platform, like it or not. Deal with it. Having a discussion, even with people who hold differing opinions, or with people you don't like, is what adults do. Hard to imagine for the low-IQ matrix dwellers, though.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“Fuentes already had a huge platform, like it or not. Deal with it.”

Speaking about low IQ trolls 😂🤣

Show me where I ever said otherwise. In the same manner, shall not Tucker Qatarson invite pro-Israel experts?

Start thinking for a change.

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Velociraver's avatar

Churchill was easily just as much a war criminal as Hitler, Stalin, and Co. Common knowledge that carpet bombing civilians is a crime, and so were his concentration camps, for a start.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Name a single leader/military who fought war differently at the time.

You, fallacies pusher, canNOT judge the past by today’s standards.

By I don’t expect anything else from a demagogue/troll. 🤡😘

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denise ward's avatar

It's when they pretend to be "the good guys" that is really the rub.

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Jeck's avatar

"Israel is a test- it’s about whether you will support God or Satan. Choose your side, and reap your destiny."

Which in your mind has a genocidal nature?

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Listen carefully, preferably closely and repeat many times so the words of this Muslim penetrate your thick skull

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jOYl_AxvFk

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hmmm which in yours?

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Jeck's avatar

It's clear, Freedom Lover, that the freedom you love is the freedom to slaughter non-combatant men, women, and children civilians. You love the freedom to obnoxiously heckle all who don't agree with your dark and perverted freedom love. This is tragic. You are missing the whole point of what liberty represents and offers humanity. Repent and hopefully you will see the light.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

It is only the God of Israel Who teaches that human life is sacred and that we should even be kind to our enemies and even to animals.

There are no human rights without the God of the Jews. But how can I reason with someone who is so illogical? It’s crazy to try. “Repent” and “see the light”? Really?

Maybe you are just expressing yourself poorly, but it seems like you are very confused.

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Jeck's avatar

You are, obviously, unaware of the beliefs underlying Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. It's no wonder you are confused.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

It’s clear that you are dumb even for the Jew-hater, terrorist-lover.

Tell me this: why did not Hamas allow “non-combatant men, women, and children civilians” in the tunnels?

In international law it’s called using civilians as a human shield - a war crime.

Even then, Hamas predictably reduced its number of civilian casualties by 72%

How’s your arithmetic?

average civilian to combatants ratio is 6 to 1.

In this conflict, at the worst it’s 2 to 5. 🤯

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denise ward's avatar

Ad hominen, deflection. Ad hominen, deflection. We're seeing your tactics darling. They don't work anymore.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

hahahahaha Thank you!!! Now, define ad-hominem deflection. :)

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Jason's avatar

Antisemitism is a word that was invented to attack those who rightfully criticize particular behaviour for which there is virtually no excuse.

It is weak term that No Longer packs any punch, nor will it dissuade people from further discussing the subversion that has destroyed our countries.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Jason's avatar

No, not in the slightest, and Alex Jones is a lunatic and does not belong in the same list as activists like Ian.

Being an expert on this topic for almost 3 decades, I would suggest you go back and watch portions of the greatest story never told and certainly watched the first four hours of Europa the final battle.

Over the decades of being involved in this type of activism on a global level, I have forged many lifelong relationships. One with an esteemed historian from the UK who is considered one of the top six experts on all things between World War I and World War II.

After Europa was completed, they hired him to vet and fact check the documentary and he deemed it 98% accurate and I trust his judgement and expertise.

I can understand why in 2015 and even 2016, people believe to Trump was on our side and that he was going to do some good however there can be no one of logical and rational thought process that still believe believes in his second term that he is not compromised.

My personal opinion is that he was not compromised in his first term, and that after they used election fraud to install their preferred puppet in the Biden administration, who, by the way, all but 3 members of his administration are Jewish with 40% possessing due as Israeli citizenship, (feel free to fact check that on the Jewish virtual library link below)after they talked to Trump, whose daughter is married into the LebadLubavitch mafia, and he is now working with them. Whether or not he converted in 2017 is unknown and irrelevant, they likely have Epstein Island footage of him and he understands what would happen if he went against them.

Everything we see is theatrical, no one is coming to save us, and if anyone was actually going to enforce policies in favour of the citizens instead of the ruling “establishment”, that person would never be allowed anywhere near Office!!!

Please watch Europa and keep in mind when you do that. It is 98% accurate meaning it is one of the most accurate documentaries ever made.

“ to know who rules over you, simply look at who it is illegal to criticize”

(you can also type in Trump administration in this library owned and proudly controlled by the Jewish community)

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration

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PutativePathogen's avatar

Bravo, John. This is a hornet's nest worth kicking. I look forward to a discussion of the true definition of "Semitic", as well as the meaning of "Israel" in the Bible. (Hint - it's not a place.)

That said, in the words of an American Bard -

"We didn't start the fire

It was always burning

Since the world's been turning

We didn't start the fire

No, we didn't light it

But we tried to fight it"

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Hahahahaha “ I look forward to a discussion of the true definition of "Semitic", as well as the meaning of "Israel" in the Bible. (Hint - it's not a place.)”

No?? Humor us, what is it? 🤔🤡😘

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Lawyerlisa's avatar

My first criticism of the "you can't criticize the government of INSERT NATION" is that eventually the citizens of THAT nation no longer have an accountable to them government. It leads to tyranny for israelis too.

Does no one see that angle? Many in Israel are unhappy with BIBI. The flawless government has yet to exist. Having lived a Trudeau regime in Canada, where we had to protest almost untenably to get a semblance of rights back, I emphasize we should not set up a holy cow that you can't criticize. I note in my book that Censorship now hides pillars of the globalist state universally.

Has anyone noticed the only place there are borders we have wars. the nation state concept is being utilized for wars. Everywhere else it is open borders and run through the national focal points of the UN and the WHO. so we are global citizens without rights except in the few places we inculcate "borders" and "wars."

It is staggeringly obvious to me. The wars are meant to get us to the one world currency, ONE HEALTH, ONE SPEECH all in the smart city governed by AI. How do we not cherish difficult speech and opposing view points. These in a few years will be quaint pre-ONE-BOOT-ON-OUR-NECKS notions. think like the hive or be euthanized.

Our government in Canada has hidden the burning of 592 churches in Canada and now moves to arrest and jail Christians for quoting the Bible if bill c-9 passes. This bill is already on the second reading.

It is not healthy for Israelis to have a government they or others cannot criticize. Who trusts any government now must be an agent of one. I think the cabal runs the extremists on every side and pairs funds with death. I don't see sides anymore just the cabal vs humanity. That humanity aka us should join together as jews, christians, muslims, athiests. Forget this artifice. They want a global citizen ONLY, but use division among us to get there.

As to the money moving. Well the amounts should just talk for themselves.

As to pedophiles at the top of all organizations and religions and governments and wherever children are found. Yes I think that is a real thing. It is quite ugly. Canada is moving through bills c5 and c75 and the supreme court to make it a sea to shinning sea of rape and pedophilia.

(no jail for buggery of babies. just christians)

what a world.

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Tess Jam's avatar

"Warning to MAGA:

The enemy have recognized that they can no longer effectively smear Trump from the Left, so they have shifted their tactics.

They are using Israel to smear Trump from the woke-Right.

Notice how the Israel hate is also accompanied by Trump being owned by Israel? Notice how the anti-Israel clickbait influencers like Nick Fuentes, Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, Alex Jones, etc., all of them VEHEMENTLY hate Trump and are constantly bashing members of his administration?

Don’t you see it? The Israel-obsession is a gateway drug that leads to bashing Trump. It’s just another form of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s designed to fracture our base and weaken Trump’s support from within.

This anti-Israel OBSESSION is just anti-Trump propaganda of a different flavor, since the Left-wing flavor of propaganda is failing.

Don’t fall for the trap. Trust Trump." - Clandestine

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Jeck's avatar

100%

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Freedom Lover's avatar

“ Many in Israel are unhappy with BIBI.”

After billions and billions sent by American left to oppose the only leader capable to lead, no wonder there are many in Israel perfectly brainwashed and organized against him 🤷‍♂️

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Mike Bond's avatar

Referring to Hammer, Levin, Graham et al. as aggressive, emotionally dysregulated weenies is as unproductive as their attacks on Carlson. He is as entitled to his opinion as Leake is to his, which BTW come surprisingly close to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Agree with both 💯%. Yet the whinnies have their right to their “aggressive, emotionally dysregulated … attacks on Carlson” as “ Leake is to his, which BTW come surprisingly close to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

Don’t they? 🫶🏻 🕊

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LW's avatar
Nov 3Edited

https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/77341

Tucker Carlson just exposed a powerful manipulation tactic used to silence critics of Israel.

He says the Israeli government runs coordinated social-media campaigns posting fake, inflammatory comments like “All Jews are evil”, not to promote hate, but to frame and discredit anyone questioning Israeli policy.

It’s a classic “strawman” operation; a psychological warfare technique where your argument is twisted into an extreme caricature, so they can attack that instead of addressing your real point.

In this case, legitimate concerns about Israel’s influence or policy are deliberately conflated with antisemitism to shut down discussion and shame dissenters.

Tucker’s message is simple: ignore the emotional bait and listen to those asking logical, reasonable questions.

https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

A Bible believer should know it is God Who watches over and will ultimately save Israel. We here in the United States should heed the advice of our first and greatest President, George Washington. In his farewell address he warned future generations to avoid foreign entanglements and to treat all other nations with benevolence. We should be so wise. Europeans and Asians have warred amongst themselves for millennia. George saw it, understood and wisely advised. We are fools to believe there is anything we can do to resolve millennia old problems. We need to stop meddling in other countries’ internal affairs, bring our troops and equipment home, stop selling weapons and end all foreign aid, at least until our national debt is paid off.

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albert venezio's avatar

I agree John but you need to substitute a few words or you fall into a trap they set:

Anti-Semitic is a Stolen word. 500 million Arabs are Semites and most Jews are not. It is the Zionists who are Anti-Semitic against Arabs.

And it is Zionists not all Jews.

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RepoMan13th ⚛️ ♈'s avatar

But lets be real, there's two types of Zionists. Those that think Israel is israel and those that think the left coast is israel. It's a completely supremacist nepotist cult. They just differ on where everyone should migrate to. Israel thinks they should all immigrate to greater israel. CAA and WME all think they should immigrate to the left coast.

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albert venezio's avatar

Also to Khazaria - their True home.

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RepoMan13th ⚛️ ♈'s avatar

I think those are probably the russian jews. You're right. I wasn't considering those.

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albert venezio's avatar

Mostly.

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