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Any Thinking Person's avatar

No one cares if you're gay... but you've made your sexual preference your identity and then constantly tried to force us to give a damn... that's what people object to.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

People also object to the grooming of children. Which appears to be the goal of "Pride" month.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Not a fan of the lisssp. I've wondered where that comes from in sssuch a high percccentage of gay males?

Is it an uncontrollable physssiological metamophisssiss once two penisssess make contact?

Or is it a sssignal, a sssign that a homosssexxual is ssspeaking?

It wasn't always that way. The Liberace's adopted it, the caricatures of gay men adopted it. But what gives? Why? To make their sexual preference their identity and constantly try to force it on others so they know? A more sophisticated, less risky way to go trolling in bathhouses? "Hi guysss! I'm available!"

Either it's an uncontrollable physiological change that happens in gay men. Or it's an intentional symbol, signal. To set them apart. To then get big mad that people treat them different informs that they like and seek the recognition. Definitely insipid narcissism. That precedes a whole month dedicated to recognizing them. Whatev's. When I hear that telltale lisp I know what I'm dealing with.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

In all seriousness, this is a good question. I have wondered the same. Is it (the speech pattern, that is) genetic or is it a learned behavior?

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

No, it is not genetic, it is an overlay, gay men can talk in a way that you could not identify their sexuality by the way they speak. However, other body language can be a signal, body language that is not deliberate. It could be a subtle wave of the hand, Rock Hudson liked to knit, most heterosexual men I imagine could not be bothered with knitting.

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Dotty's avatar

No it's not learned behavior .I've known many many kids with a gay parent and they weren't gay . This goes all the way back to the Romans and even before .The fiercest leaders of Roman groups usually kept the strongest and most vigilant men in their presence and they really only spent time with their wives for being fathers to children . They found a man was stronger if he wasn't having too much sex . But they were very co-sexual .

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Freedom Fox's avatar

So where does the lisssp come from? Did the fiercest Roman leaders, the strongest and most vigilant Romans have lisssps?

Doubtful. But a hoot and a laugh to picture it!!

My suspicion is they didn't. Because they had no urge or compulsion to signal their sexual preference. They weren't insipid narcissists. Like today's lissspers are.

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Dotty's avatar

Funny I'm oldddder ..known quite a few gays but weirdly they all (or most) had normal heterosexual relationships with crazies from the opposite genders . We always laugh with them about how they were in such abusive relationships that then they no longer trusted or wanted to be with the opposite sex again . lissp ?? I'll tell you I've only known a few people with lissps and they weren't gay . So not sure where that came from

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Freedom Fox's avatar

My query really is from an observation of my life experience, six decades here, maybe you've been here longer? Thing is, the youngers are more and more likely to have that damnable lisssp. It's like they're being taught, modeled to carry the lissssp as normal, more straight guys have it. Or maybe bi? who knows. It's kind of like more and more women now have that damnable vocal fry, taught or modeled. Really annoying. If you don't recognize the term you can search the webs for short videos demonstrating it. Once you hear it you'll recognize its prevalence in the youngers. It ain't normal. Or even symbols of intelligence or status. Though many may think it is, the rest of the normal world thinks, "Weirdo's."

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

The speech pattern though is applied. Homosexuality definitely is not learned. Being gay is like being born left-handed. My uncle was forced to write with his right hand, as the Christian Brother teachers believed it was wrong to be left-handed.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

That is not true. And you would not want that to be true. They've never discovered the "gay" gene. Because it doesn't exist. And while there may be some genetic markers that produce a greater than average number of gay people those markers are not perfect predictors of outcomes. Remember, correlation isn't causality.

At best "science" under whatever definition you accept says it is a combination of nature + nurture. Some nature that may indicate a predisposition, with a lot of environmental shaping. Some argue that there are chemicals in our food and environment that will increase the likelihood of same sex attraction. There's the influence of parents, churches, schools, cultural entertainment that change permission structures. Think of the trans phenomenon as Exhibit A. More of a social construct, with some communities experiencing an explosion of trans-identity, as if sexual preferences are contagious. It's a social contagion. Not born that way.

And while some may take issue with all I just said the reason gays and gay allies should want the ambiguity of nature + nurture is that it allows for the most freedom to be attracted to whomever one is attracted to. If it is determined to be a purely a nature, genetic "born that way" immutable characteristic then the world of eugenics swings wide open. And babies tested to possess those genetic markers will end up being aborted (murdered) in the womb by parents who don't want gay children.

A government that determines gays are defective, mistakes will test for and find those who have those genes, marked for euthanasia (murdered) or gender-affirming care (genital mutilation/sterilization.) It's happened before, less than a century ago. By people, governments with the same beliefs, eugenics, as a way to perfect the population by population controlling (murdering/sterilizing) its "undesirables."

No, neither gays nor gay allies should not want your statement that they are born that way to be true. Even if it one day were proven to be true. They won't like the Pandora's box that opens. Just sayin'.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Or imagine the horrifyingly more dystopian outcome in which heterosexual fetuses are targeted for abortion to remedy fictional "climate change" as an excuse for arbitrary depopulation schemes.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

There is no single gene for eye color either, yet colors are distinct. There are genetic components involved. Most homosexuals realize very young they are different. Homosexuality has been around for thousands of years, prior to modern environmental insults. Penguins, dolphins, bison, swans, giraffes and chimpanzees are just a few of the many species that sometimes pair up with same-sex partners. A 2001 review of such twin studies reported that almost all found identical twins were significantly more likely to share a sexual orientation, to be either both gay, or both straight over fraternal twins, The majority of homosexuals remained in the closet due to the cruelty of others, no social contagion there. Religion and psychotherapy have been unsuccessful in changing orientation, no matter how much the homosexual wishes to be otherwise. Or no matter how much religious idealogues push it. However, you are entitled to your opinion. It is a tragedy when a gay man marries a woman to appease the commands of others, everyone suffers.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

My father also was force-switched to right-handed by the nuns in Catholic school. Although he did have beautiful handwriting, he continued to bat left-handed for his high school baseball team and to golf with left-handed clubs.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I was born left-handed. The pediatrician told my parents it was a disability and the world would be harder for me to navigate without learning to be right-handed. Being force-switched entails having the naturally dominant hand (left) swatted when reaching for something. Over and over and over. Until the child gives up trying to reach with their dominant hand.

As the product of that I probably have been able to navigate the world desgned for righties better. But I've also discovered my ability to be ambidextrous as an asset. Somethings I do better with my left. Though since I haven't put the work in to fine-tuning my handwriting it's not pretty. But nor is my right-hand penmanship, has always been poor even with practice.

But I can bat as a switch-hitter, throw darts better with my left, my hand-eye instincts are more in synch with my left hand. And as an added bonus, by learning how to use my non-dominant hand I've actually activated neural pathways between both the left- and right-hemisphere of my brain. The creative and logical are close to equal in performance. Most people have a dominant hemisphere that shapes their abilities and understanding of the world. I test and perform high at both generally distinct brain orientations.

I've not seen scientific studies that replicate my lived experience, but I have strong reason to believe being ambidextrous, by birth or training, improves communication between both hemispheres of the human brain and thus opens more opportunities, knowledge and insights than having only one hemisphere dominant. I'd be curious if others have similar anecdotals.

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Roisin Dubh's avatar

Religions have a dark side.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Some studies suggest that there might be subtle differences in vocal cord structure or brain activity between homosexuals and straight individuals, which could contribute to variations in speech. However, these findings are not conclusive, and more research is needed. Some speech patterns commonly associated with homosexual men are likely a combination of learned behaviors and biological factors. These patterns, such as higher pitch, specific vowel sounds, and intonation, might be influenced by exposure to female speech patterns or the adoption of linguistic features from other social groups.  There are a lot of neuroanatomical differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals. A small region in the anterior hypothalamus is smaller in homosexual men compared to heterosexual men, and similar in size to heterosexual women. The anterior commissure, a fiber tract connecting the two hemispheres, is larger in homosexual men than in heterosexual men. The putamen, a part of the basal ganglia, is larger in homosexual women and heterosexual men than in heterosexual women. The thalamus, a structure involved in relaying sensory information, tends to be larger in heterosexuals, especially heterosexual men, compared to homosexuals. Studies have also found differences in the calcarine sulcus, cerebellum, and various cortical areas like the precentral gyrus and middle temporal gyrus.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Very, very interesting. 🌸

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Susanne Sheffer's avatar

Today's queers are not those of yesteryear. It's taken me decades to reach the point where I find it intolerable to hear and see [often accompanying effeminate gesticulations]. It seems like a compulsion, to signal to others their predilection to being queer. I'M GAY, LOOK AT ME.

It annoys me to distraction. About 2 minutes of heavy S's and I've had enough. I find it to be so aggravating, I simply don't want to listen. Spoiler alert: to all the gender challenged people, if that's all you have going on in your lives, maybe it's time to seek attention in a different way. If that's brutal, so be it.

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Susan P ...'s avatar

Agree ...

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earl's avatar

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer was forced to wear 'the ribbon'.

If you need me to celebrate you; then there's something wrong with you.

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GinaMP's avatar

Well said.

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Paul's avatar

Your softness kills us

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Susan P ...'s avatar

I agree JL, appreciate your article. And this is from a Mom of two gay adult sons who I love with all my heart. However, making their sexual preference their identity is not what we've done as a family - no labels - just love ...

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GinaMP's avatar

Thank you for your insight. Exactly what I experienced in my work career in publishing during the 70s and 80s in NYC. Not a persons identity. We had fun at work. No one looked at someone’s personal life.

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VN's avatar

Pride celebration with tax money is also about being intolerant to those who believe in God, traditional marriage, the purity and protection of children. Those who believe in these traditional and religious guidelines are labeled homophobes and bigots and haters? You are not allowed by sexual politics to have a traditional belief system whatsoever.

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Alohalan's avatar

So it follows that you'd be opposed to tax exempt status for those homophobic intolerant churches, right? Good for you!

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

How very Marcusian of you!

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William Foster's avatar

Ceasar gets enough and then some.

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earl's avatar

We are causing great harm to young people by confusing them. To demonstrate how open we are, we spend too much time celebrating and encouraging deviants (that's not a bad word; look it up) and not enough time encouraging normal behavior and the things that make life truly worthwhile. Sorry, but the traditional family is the building block of civilization. Always will be.

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Overtheblues's avatar

Good point - we are being forced into genuflecting to all sorts of 'deviancy' - while being reviled for being normal and liking it. I think the 'Pride' crowd have stretched their bit of elastic beyond it's ability to bounce back for far too long and now we are the slaves of their ideological dictates. Fear of being called nasty names has shut us up. I say: Cut their funding and push them away - just like they've been doing to us - and for Heavens sake, STOP them influencing an grooming little kids to be like them.

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Shamus's avatar

One only needs to witness a local gay pride parade to get the absurdity of an established Gay Pride event. And, better not to bring your young children; it is an adult affair. It is not gayness that I object to. No, it is the aberration that is showcased, celebrated--one's sexual preferences made into a movement to rip the fabric of a sensible, moral, and smart society. It is used to poison and confuse the minds and lives of our children, denigrate the rightly-traditional strength of our families, twist and pervert the minds and fabric of Nations and societies. If you wish to destroy a country from within, you attack the family unit, and flip and pervert its values. You reverse and make unrecognizable the roles of real men, real women, mothers, fathers, and family.

You fund these things over decades to crescendo when their new world globalist order is scheduled to control all of society, and crush all dissent. You get rid of all conservative, patriotic voices, conventional values, weaken men, insult and devalue women, rendering them servile and apologetic.

If a friend or family member is gay and you love and support them, their humanity, that's one thing. But to normalize sexualizing children, promoting and celebrating a dark agenda, yes--insipid narcissism, with DEI campaigns, law fare, corporate sponsors, media and political collaborators, all planned and funded, then you are attempting to destroy a society, a nation, and replace it with dark, dark, abominations.

They'll keep trying but We won't let them.

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Bella Grace's avatar

Thank you, Shamus for your thoughtful response. I am grateful you took the time to say it so well.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

It pays to consider that the label "hater" is in fact a compliment when you are hating things that are objectively "hateful" by moral, intellectual and aesthetic criteria.

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Bridges To Babylon's avatar

Spot on comment Shamus; btw, it’s ‘dissent’.

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Shamus's avatar

Helpful and thank you. Don't always see the obvious; everyone needs a good editor😊.

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Loveohio's avatar

Pride …..one of the seven deadly sins.

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Velociraver's avatar

Take pride in Ohio, do ya?

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Take pride in being a smart aleck?

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Velociraver's avatar

Guess I touched a nerve, Kathy 😁

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

No, I don't have any connection to Ohio. It just seems quite small of you to counter someone's statement of fact with a criticism of their love of Ohio. Chip on your shoulder?

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Velociraver's avatar

The man's screen name is LOVEOHIO, and he's going on about *pride*. Are you so obtuse that you fail to see they hypocrisy?

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Cheryl's avatar

We are in Dublin this weekend. Frankly it feels like we must be made to care. The rainbows are suffocating. Can’t wait to leave.

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Dena's avatar

Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods - blue state, blue county in the US- not seeing much evidence of “pride” month, only one tiny flag. However there was the obligatory despicable parade in the city where a man on a float was publicly sodomized with sex toys for all to see. The degradation just continues.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

OMG...did you get pictures of the float?

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Dena's avatar

It’s on X. Disgusting.

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Cheryl's avatar

Yes—in my home of Charleston it was pretty quiet. We got of the plane and it was rainbows everywhere. If it could be rainbowed it was. I mean, bizarre.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

The taxpayer funding of gay pride continues but the corporate funding seems to have dried up a bit this year. Also the "Free Palestine" people have taken over spaces once used by LGBTQ during Pride Month. Sadly, however, they don't restrict their hijacking of public spaces to just one month.

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Larry Woods's avatar

Good article, but this idiocy is as much about virtue signaling as narcissism. Real virtue is evident without promotion; Signaling is cover for lack of virtue/merit.

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Patrick  White's avatar

I agree with your statement, and the Bible affirms there only two genders

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Gi's avatar

I was at the bank the other day and a big pride flag was hanging and I thought, why does who you sleep with have anything to do with my banking? I am completely not interested with who people choose to sleep with. I really do think it's a private, sacred issue.

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Kim Hayes's avatar

I'm going to print the substack & frame it.........perfectly articulated. (Your voice was in my head as I read it, so I'm going with articulated)

I have mentioned in the past to others that when I wake up and go about my day, brush my teeth, drink coffee, etc. I've never found it necessary to announce to myself or others that I was straight. Yet, the constant referencing of some gay folks reminding me and attempting to work it into everything going on is 'soul sucking' & like being around a vampire. YAWN! Who Cares?

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NeverDull's avatar

Completely agree. I also find myself very bored by people who build their identity around an immutable characteristic. Or even a single world view. A true mind contains multitudes.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

"A true mind contains multitudes" . . . and abilities to be open to more.

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Bella Grace's avatar

You don’t care?? Why not?

When I was growing up in Monterey, California in the 1970s, my father would say, “I don’t worry about these homosexuals—they can’t reproduce. We know they’re out there, but they’re all going to die out.”

What he didn’t realize is that homosexual behavior doesn’t reproduce through biology—it reproduces through ideology. And today, that ideology is being implanted in the minds of children, with the full participation of adults who should know better. Parents parade their toddlers through Pride events. They sit cross-legged at Drag Queen Story Hour while men in lingerie read picture books. They call it progress. But what it really is, is grooming. Slowly, methodically, like the frog in the pot that doesn’t notice the rising temperature until it’s too late, children are being conditioned to believe that what was once considered deviant is now not just acceptable, but virtuous.

Public libraries, public schools, children’s television—these are the new pulpits of the sexual revolution. And at its core is a single, relentless goal: to normalize sexual behavior in children. Still think that sounds extreme? Then Google the term “MAPs”—Minor Attracted Persons. These are adults who seek legal and social acceptance for their sexual attraction to minors. This past spring, the California Legislature debated bills that would further blur the legal line protecting minors. Why? Because MAPs want into the LGBTQ+ tent. Law enforcement calls them what they are: pedophiles. But activists demand we call them misunderstood.

And where are the medical voices in all this? Where are the doctors with the courage to say what they know? That homosexual behavior—especially male-on-male anal sex—remains the leading transmission method for HIV in the United States. That it damages the body’s natural function. That the anus, unlike the vagina, was not designed to be penetrated. Prolonged anal sex weakens sphincter muscles, leads to chronic incontinence, and causes trauma that physicians have seen for decades. The fact is, the anus is an exit not an entrance. They know this. But they won’t say it—not out loud. Not anymore. Silence is safer.

My father is still alive, and he is stunned by what he sees—how fast decency has collapsed, how few are willing to speak up.

Why should we care?

Because the ones who want to shape the next generation aren’t doing it with love, or reason, or truth. They’re doing it with ideology, confusion, and manipulation. And if we don’t care now, we’ll have nothing left to pass down—except the wreckage.

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Susanne Sheffer's avatar

Meanwhile, kids are being denied a real education. Average high school graduates read at a 7th to 8th grade level and there's a precipitous drop in math skills. And the education system is so worried about gender confusion, they're stealing your childs future to compete in the work force. You people better change the focus of education. READING. WRITING, MATHMATICS. Never mind the queer stuff.

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James Dawson's avatar

Brilliant. Excellent comment.

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Jason's avatar

The paedophiles chose a rainbow for their flag to attract children to their cause, if anyone doubts this, then they should participate in the MAID program.

At some point, we have to defend the innocence of our children from this over sexualized attack, which comes from the top down, this was not an organic grass roots movement started by the gay community however they were happy to join in and participate.

Any parent that takes their children anywhere near a gay pride event should be imprisoned for child abuse, that being said we shouldn’t care what other people do except when it comes to children because we can raise our children with every moral and intellectual advantage, but if they grow up in a community where their peers believe boys can have babies, they will get bullied for not agreeing with the agenda.

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Amy Jo Aylward's avatar

Amen. “Being proud of one’s sexual predilection is an expression of insipid narcissism, and is unlikely to result in any personal growth or creativity.”

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TrumpFan's avatar

That last paragraph - SPOT ON!

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