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Jennifer Vyhnanek's avatar

The problem with those “scholars” interpretations is that they don’t finish the text. Nero did not cause all to receive marks on their hand or forehead, therefore it cannot be interpreted as Nero that John was speaking of..

When exegeting the scripture we have examine all of it and it all has to make sense..

It makes more sense contextually in the time period we are living in right now.. where there actually could be a global order where in lockstep, everyone uses their cbdc’s, for instance, by swiping their hand or scanning their forehead..

Kind of like how, during Covid, all the leaders were in lockstep, for the first time in history.. we are seeing shadows of things to come..

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Yes agreed.

Nero would fall into the Preterist view. The 4 views are:

Idealist (Allegory),

Preterist (all happened before 70 AD),

Historicist (the Ancient Church, Roman Catholicism, etc.)

Futurist (literal premillennialism)

I have been studying, teaching, and writing on my substack and it looks like the 4 Horsemen are riding. They are killing up to 1/4th of the population. And the wild beasts are the same Greek word used for the Beasts of the Sea and Earth in Revelation 13 which correlates to the globalists.

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Philip Edwards's avatar

Yes! I entirely agree!!

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Morag's avatar

As regards the Beasts -- of the sea and of the earth, the Beast from the Sea is abusive secular government, which makes war against the Church; the Beast from the Earth is the Apostate Church. Both of these have the same goal: to usurp the power of God, to arrogate to themselves what belongs to God alone.

Take a look, if interested and time permits, at Revelation: the Distant Triumph Song by Siegbert Becker, Northwestern Publishing House. Read chapters 12-14 -- and take special note of Chapter 13.

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Palamambron's avatar

What is the baby who the beast waits to devour, and who is his mother? What are the two empires? What is the beast with 10 heads? You can find King James answers to these questions at my stack: https://palamambron.substack.com/p/more-about-the-book , but I'm interested in how you see it. I like the reference to the Beast from the Sea as secular government, or British Maritime Law (federal code is BML). The sea also symbolized the mass of humanity in many places, as the trees symbolize Ecclesiastical powers (Druids). KJ references these symbolic meanings that are widely used in many works. https://palamambron.substack.com/p/more-about-the-book

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you for that book reference. Interesting that Becker associates the Beast of the Earth to the Apostate Church. In the end the Beast of the Earth is rooted most likely in Satan and his army of disembodied demonic spirits who try to deceive mankind and it gives authority to the Beast of the Sea, as Becker notes the "abusive globalist secular nation states".

See this article on the possible correlation of the Beast of the Earth.

The Beast from the Earth - possibly the occult/baphomet - 2 horns.

https://ephesians610.substack.com/p/revelation-13-the-beast-of-the-earth

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Morag's avatar

Both Beasts serve Satan.

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Agree

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Palamambron's avatar

This assessment is right on. Who is the Whore of Babylon and what way is she a whore? Who are the vermin and pestilence of frogs that she engenders? (Note 3) https://palamambron.substack.com/p/a-fruitful-meditation-of-rev-20-the

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you for sharing and your dedication to the KJ1 view.

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Palamambron's avatar

Check out my stack if your interested in baroque attitudes toward Revelation or Anticlericalism: https://palamambron.substack.com/p/more-about-the-book

There is a post for each chapter of Revelation.

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you for sharing.

Would you consider this a Historic View of Revelation?

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Palamambron's avatar

Specifically, it's KJ1's view. I recommend his preface to his study of Revelation, A Letter To The Whole Church Militant: https://palamambron.substack.com/p/a-letter-to-the-whole-church-militant At this point, the king was a young man and very devout in his faith. I hope that he remained faithful to the end. There is a lot of slander about his character and he had many enemies (papists) and still does.

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Philip Edwards's avatar

Indeed, eyes ever seeing yet never perceiving, ears ever hearing yet never understanding ...

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KB's avatar

remember, the 'mark of the beast' is buying into the anti-God agenda (following man wisdom--like we did at 9/11 and again during covid and again in EVERY financial crisis like now! The whole 'build back better' BS, the mark on the hand is actually helping push it further with your words and actions....what you just witnessed with all the virtue signalling on MSM and social media...Mob Mentality, ppl blaming the unvaxxed as the cause of the pandemic and spewing hatred at anyone not bought into the 'do what you're told so we can get back to normal' BS. Horse Paste shaming(name calling, satans calling card) and forced closings and worthless masks was all to control the ppl who are not awake! The 'Woke' as it were. True wisdom comes from humility and Father God.

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Mike's avatar

that's essentially true, this stuff is conditioning people to blindly accept the actual mark when it comes, there will be tremendous pressure to get it in order to function in society, for the greater good, etc etc , all the same arguments we have seen over the past 3 years will be used

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Philip Edwards's avatar

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 9:10

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Linda McHam's avatar

Proverbs 3: 5-6

5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

This was carved in wood and sat on my grandfather's desk his entire life.

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Philip Edwards's avatar

Amen!

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RE Nichols's avatar

If Christians would turn off their television sets and ask God for wisdom, this delusion would end for the Church.

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Unagnu's avatar

Too many of 'the church' are mindless robots with no understanding of faith. Faith is this: By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. And in the time of the Covid 'panic' faith is/was/will be knowing that God has you. Yeah, thou I walk through the valley of death, I shall not fear (or words to that effect). And that is why these poor souls are lost, trapped and deluded into their own destruction (taking the poison that will kill them and their offspring, denying the power of God and denying the wonderous strength of God's creation - their immune system. Denying God has them in his hand, buying into all manner of 'things' rather than 'soul' and spirit.)

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RE Nichols's avatar

They were so cowardly about dying of Covid that they forsook the assembly because Caesar told them to. Being killed in the Coliseum was bad for their health, yet the Christians in ancient Rome did not worship the emperor.

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GLK's avatar

100% 🎯

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Mike's avatar

There could never have been a mark of the beast possible until modern technology made it possible, and they are setting up that system now with digital ID and blockchain

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Morag's avatar

"All those who make their home on the earth will worship the beast -- those whose names HAVE NOT been written FROM THE BEGINNING of the world in the Book of Life, which BELONGS to the Lamb that was slain." Revelation 13:8, EHV, Evangelical Heritage Version.

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RE Nichols's avatar

And nanobot technology they can inject into people. Not microchips--which are too large for injections. They also pass out after a day or so. This allows them to watch everything the injected do. They become like gods to those people.

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GLK's avatar

The entire point of all coronavirus countermeasures was human mastery over the natural world. If you resisted you were against saving humanity. Science and technology are whom you must bow to now.

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GLK's avatar

Read about ‘The Restrict Act’ they’re trying to pass. Uses banning TikTok as the on ramp to digital authoritarianism.

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Morag's avatar

Yes; Sen. Rand Paul was quick to point this out to Sen. Josh Hawley, the latter, who seemed to have been snookered into overlooking this very real scenario/danger.

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dyoungdawson's avatar

Shadows yet come, looks like premature deaths to those vaxxed and yet getting boosted.

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RE Nichols's avatar

How about that international patent taken out by Microsoft? The patent number: "WO2020060606." It's for a new kind of currency based on bodily movements which it will also monitor and connect to the Internet of Things. Or, in this case, the Internet of Bodies.

In his talks to world leaders about future global plagues he anticipates, Bill Gates has mentioned little "vaccines" he's working on to be self-administered at home. They'll leave a little patch on the hand or forehead, according to Gates. This will show you are vaccinated.

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Mike's avatar

yes, I think it's related. The "patch" I believe is the quantum dot tattoo Gates is planning. Totally irreversible once applied, it becomes part of you at the quantum level. they always tell us what they are planning before they carry it out. In their minds as long as they tell us ahead of time, they are justified in doing anything. It's like a serial killer giving out hints to the police begging them to stop him.

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RE Nichols's avatar

He's not talking to us. But he is pretty out there and proud.

Like a serial killer so narcissistic he won't even address his victims directly as he boasts about his evil schemes before them.

"It puts the lotion on the skin. It does what it is told."

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GLK's avatar

Human psychology is such that if you know what’s coming you won’t fear it as much so will be more open to acceptance. They know exactly what they’re doing. Don’t underestimate them. Yuval Harari said humans are hackable animals. In other words influenceable. They’ve studied the human responses to stimulus. Probably ran it through powerful programming. They know the triggers. The buttons to press. That’s how so many get roped-in. They don’t realize they’re being played.

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KB's avatar

wow! not even a moments consideration or care for the new fully tatted and woke generation, they'll get it like a morning drivethru at starbucks and post it on FB for all to marvel at their 'wokeness' and brilliance.

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Agree - all the technology is there to attempt an Internet of Bodies (IoB) connected at the quantum level to the cloud. The quantum dot tattoo is potentially a final "easy to administer" method of marking individuals.

Researchers are observing self-assembly or telsaphoresis where they can influence and control the "operating system" platform. This is just like the early days of personal computers - you have a motherboard and you add adapter cards to that board. The first thing you need is the platform, then you add network connections - then applications are installed.

At the World Economic Forum: Yuval Noah Harari states,

"Humans are now hackable animals."

"Digital dictatorships will monitor everyone all the time. This danger can be stated in the form of a simple equation, which I think may be the defining equation of life in the 21st century.

B x C x D = A H H

(Biological knowledge) x (Computing power) x (Data) = Ability to Hack Humans

We humans should get use to the ideal that we are no longer mysterious souls… we are now hackable animals… that’s what we are…"

Transhumanism is the new Gnosticism.

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Morag's avatar

Very apt analogy: Gnosticism -- yes. Yet again showing man's deepest conceit and arrogance: secret and superior knowledge.

We all want to be like EVE: rejecting the only true lover of our souls and going our own way, becoming like God.

Oh Foolish man -- who has bewitched you that you should believe another gospel which is really no gospel at all.

Gospel= Good News; Klause and his cronies bring unimaginable evil into the world they're ostensibly making --

More pity them. The blind simply will not see --

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GLK's avatar

Distilled to its essence I agree the scamdemic is about puny minds saying, Thanks God, we’ll take it from here… The lunacy of the hubris is palpable.

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denise ward's avatar

I think we spend way too much time thinking and talking about futures we don't want. History has been so fraught with barbarism, of course all previous commentary was predicated on more barbarity because that's all they knew, they couldn't see "outside of the box". But we are at a most interesting time now - where we have something no character in history ever predicted - we have the internet. And this allows us to communicate with each other in light speed. Nobody ever saw this - so their predictions are essentially defunct. We are currently perched at a very pivotal time where we can finally claim the reigns to our own destiny, individually and collectively. We can make seismic shifts in our thinking because now we have a communication channel that enables everyone to exponentially thrive. Let's start reimagining our future and make it one we want, not more barbarity and fear.

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

Proverbs 19:21

Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.

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denise ward's avatar

So somebody wrote that one day. The idea of "a lord" is to keep people under the thumb of some threatening ogre. They feel this because they fear death and what comes after.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

'Fear' death? Actually I look forward to it. I'm rather envious of the dead, although I doubt all of them were ready for it.

It's sad that you view The Creator as 'some threatening ogre.' But, that's your choice.

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

"those who reject God have no hope after death" (Proverbs 11:7)

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rbj's avatar

And is that what you feel? I used to fear death. Understanding the Prophecy of CHRIST took it away.

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

It's actually quite the opposite, in the hearts of true believers.

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denise ward's avatar

Better to believe in oneself and our fellows than some mythical creature that a few guys in robes cooked up a long time ago.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

What's your story, Denise? Why so bitter? So insulting? If you don't have faith in God, that's certainly your right... but why do you feel the need to put down believers and their faith?

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

Proverbs 14:7

Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge.

Proverbs 15:12

A scoffer does not like to be reproved; he will not go to the wise.

Peter 3:3

Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own desires.

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denise ward's avatar

Thanks for the question. The answer is if something doesn't make sense then it needs to be challenged. Why should we make an exception for religion? Whether I'm bitter or not is not the issue and that matters not a whit. You're not concerned about all the people quoting that silly book so all religious people will take is praise and agreement. Well I think religion has destroyed our humanity. It makes no sense at all and I think it's like a security blanket for people who are afraid of life and who cower before some big superior they call god. I don't like seeing my fellow humans so beaten down. That may insult you but I'm telling you it is highly insulting to listen to people quoting scripture or talking about this mythical ogre. I'm not putting anyone down, I'm putting down their thinking. Yes anyone can believe in anything they want, but that doesn't mean they can't be challenged on it.

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PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

Just bypass the guys in robes, past and present. Ignore them and liaise with God directly. You can.

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rbj's avatar

Make sure you tell them how to do it tho. It can only be thru CHRIST

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Kim's avatar

Yes!

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

Good luck riding that horse into the storm that's coming.

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rbj's avatar

Cooked. Nice analogy

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Jennifer Jones's avatar

That's lord, but it's not our Lord.

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TSMe's avatar

Why fear death? We were dead for billions of years before we were born.

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rbj's avatar

Proof?

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rbj's avatar

I died about 2009 or 10. 😉

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Rust's avatar

Wait. What happened to your use of the term Sky Daddy?

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

Except the internet is only a tool, one which can be coopted by the Empire and turned into a means of subjugation, as has been clearly demonstrated over the last 3 years.

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denise ward's avatar

Yes if we let it. One way of not letting it is to condemn anyone who censors. Free speech is our ticket out of this hell.

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Caroline's avatar

I’m guessing you don’t live in Canada. Condemning the censors has not got us very far, mostly it’s just got us, well, censored.

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Rust's avatar

Ahhh. Condemning. That's the key, eh?

LOL

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Jennifer Jones's avatar

I wish we never had the internet. In the last 30 years, much has gone downhill and gotten worse. We don't call a friend or relative to ask how to build something or what water temperature to use for our clothes. We've given up relationships. Teens don't get together and go to parties anymore. Teens? Isn't that strange? Neighbors don't spend time talking, sharing, and helping each other anymore. If you're over 50, you know how EVERYTHING got done without the internet or smart phones. Not only everything, but MORE got done. How many hours a day do "you" spend on your phone? With that time, your whole family could be playing board or card games together on Saturday nights, you could be throwing a softball or football with the kids on the block, or even walking barefoot in your soft green grass and lying there looking up at the clouds. Almost any other activity would give us more chances to connect with others, learn how our neighbors view current events and life, and help each other when the going gets tough. The internet isn't worth it. We were deceived.

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denise ward's avatar

Jennifer I empathize with your sentiments as I see people moving ever farther away from each other like two shrinking icebergs. However I don't recall life being quite as great as you say. I remember there was a lot of angst then too over ideas of domination. I think we have equalized a lot since those days but to the point now where we think derangement and stupidity are equivalent to intelligence. However I think those of us who can imagine more will have more change of uniting now that we have this medium. And I think this medium has the potential to make everyone much more empowered. We've of course got to let ideas of domination wither and die off. Money is the mechanism that is really the cause of all that is wrong pre-internet and post internet. We need to address this virulent idea of money. I wish to make a distinction though, it's not "money" itself per se, but money that comes from debt. This idea is so deranged, so pernicious and insidious that it corrodes everything that it touches. Notice though people never speak about the concept of money that is born of debt? Money can be done in various other ways. But our culture has adopted a way (by design from the top) that goes against nature, that creates an artificial scarcity. Because nature is not scarce, it's only if you are not in alignment with it that it is made scarce. And due to this sense of scarcity, it creates greed in the human spirit. Which is only natural when we feel things are scarce. We are at the outer limits right now, connecting with the ones who see beyond the everyday (which most people only care about) to link up using the internet and this will cause a sort of global "synapse" that will take the human mind beyond the denseness we have experienced to date.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

What if we lose the internet? Does your projected synapse fail to happen? Are you familiar with the Carrington Event of 1859? Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker, and it protects us from space weather. I wouldn't place my faith in the internet. I'm still curious about why you gave up on God, though.

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denise ward's avatar

Yes the internet could be taken down, and that is why I recommend a cash currency as well as a digital currency. I don't believe the prognostications that are put out about the earth, I think they are possible but I don't hold my breath they will happen. I think much of the time they are made up and used to instill fear to keep control of the populations. As for giving up on god, I can see god is just another propaganda ploy, a psychological implant to again keep people in fear and thus to control them. Why did they go to all the trouble of these stories, the lies and deceptions? I think because there is a natural energy seeded within us, that is responsible for decaying matter and when things are not balanced, it becomes rampant. The imbalance is determined by masculine and feminine energies just like an electrical charge of positive and negative. The source is each one of us and everything issues from the sovereign. There are many sovereigns thus many ideas and perspectives. The idea of a god is like the idea of a government - it puts something more powerful than you in control of you but it does it in a way that gets you to want it. Because it knows the power of your wanting something, of our desires. We are not in a universe like science has led us to believe - matter is merely a subset of consciousness not the other way around. Nowhere in nature does anything create on its own least of all by a male. God was created in man's image because man wrote that story, it comes out of the minds of men only, and men have a missing chromosome and seem to have a deep void they cannot fill without snatching from someone else instead of finding it within themselves. It also leaves out the intelligence of half the population. Things can be so much better if we were a balanced society and things would make sense. The only reason we are in such direness is because only men have called the shots and we can see what men produce - wars, classes, favoritism, despair, destruction. Without the balancing side, men cannot prosper either but they are too shortsighted to see this.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

I like men. I think they have overall done a pretty good job. I think women are just as likely to screw things up as anyone else.

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denise ward's avatar

What evidence do you have that women screw things up just as much? Keep in mind the entire framework women have to engage with is totally designed by males. Males have pretty much run things on their own for eons. And they stopped women from being part of life. When do women do this to men? Look at who fight in wars, who use weapons, who kills and rapes and destroys the environment. Now look at who does most of the caring and cleaning. Notice ratios not instances because instances only tell us that anyone can do anything, but when we look at ratios we can see who does the overwhelming amount of something. We have been living under a false equivalence in men's favor. It's not a matter of liking or disliking men or anyone else, it's a matter of noticing who are the main culprits for the violence in our society. Hands down it's a no brainer.

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dyoungdawson's avatar

Actually, loneliness, isolation even in the family started with Television. One time we all sat around the dinner table, and talked to each other.

Sunday was a Sunday drive looking at scenery or going to the Zoo.

Internet just brings us Independent learning. We are in our own world.

This can be enriching and rewarding for self improvenents.

You can get not one opinion but hundreds, and even learn how to have a healthy birth experience, knowing both prenatal and perinatal best care, too. The sky is the limit to Internet information, if it is not politically agenda censored and the science is truly tested.

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rbj's avatar

When i had tv, we still had family dinner. That's all in parenting now.

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Jennifer Jones's avatar

You can get every bit of that information from relatives, friends, neighbors, and church people without the internet.

While television watching grew, it began with the whole family sitting in the living room with "TV trays" and dinner. It was for, perhaps, one show a night. During the TV shows, the family would talk and laugh about them. All the tv shows were wholesome, and children didn't have go off alone to their rooms because their parents wanted to watch a show that was inappropriate for children.

No, I disagree that family loneliness and isolation began in the 1950's when TV was new. I believe isolation and loneliness in the spread out family, friends, and neighbors began in full force in the 1970s. Grandparents ceased to be respected and consulted as a solid resource. The family spread out geographically from the remainder of its relatives. Companies began to transfer employees across the country in earnest. Mothers began working in droves, which meant both parents came home tired. Parents were told in Parents Magazines that a "good parent" only needed a few hours of "quality time" with their children. So, time had to be made to transport your kids several times a week to their ballet and tap classes, or their karate classes after school, and kids began eating their breakfast in the car on the way to school because everyone was rushed and tired. Divorcees in the family were growing. Women were told by Virginia Slims cigatette commercials that they could do it all.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

What you say really resonates with me. I think people mistake immediate gratification and the volume (which says nothing about quality) of information for access to information, pre-digital days. I had a painful childhood I couldn’t wait to get out of, so I had several sources of refuge and peace. One was the library. I loved books and spent as much time as I could in a library. I even worked as a RIF volunteer starting at 10. There was as much access to information as most can get out of the internet. Probably better, as now quantity supplants quality. The only thing you needed was patience, which is a virtue. Lord knows, I don’t have much naturally so I appreciate the ability to develop some. Whatever book wasn’t available at my local library, I’d go to the Grand Army Plaza library and request it. A week or so later, I’d go excitedly to get my treasure. There was a real life peer to peer network: other people. They were important for more than just pleasure. As I think more, your point of the erosion of social connection associated with reliance on the internet is more profound than I realized.

I would’ve been a high risk candidate for the neurosis and psychosis organizing templates available to me through the virtual sphere. I could even see myself being a target of the trans train, since I didn’t fit into anything. I would’ve been much easier to control if they could put me in a box. So they would’ve tried. Lord knows they tried back then, except I had very strong sense of internal boundaries, ie private self. The collapse of private vs public self boundaries today, via social media and/or the constant contact via text etc, would’ve led me to despair. I valued and sought refuge in my privacy. I, too, see net loss. To quote the dingbat DEI Stanford Dean that made the rounds lately, “Is the juice worth the squeeze?”

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Morag's avatar

Radio, too, accelerated the West's cultural decline.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. - Daniel 12:4 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel12:4&version=KJV

Many equate "knowledge shall be increased" to the internet, not to mention quantum computing, AI, and all that jazz.

Also "run to and fro" aptly describes our ability to travel easily , thanks to planes, trains, and automobiles.

Hmm, could be the time of the end.

I sure hope so.

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Gerlinde Stradwick's avatar

Run to and through Criss referenced with Amos is reading. As it is related to knowledge. Daniel wanted to know about his vision. But it was for the end. Progressive illumination as we get nearer and nearer and search the scriptures

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rbj's avatar

You may not want to use the word "progressive" 😁. I don't get your first sentence, but i believe John had a form of Daniel's end time vision. Two prophecies, same premise: one for those under The Law, one for those under CHRIST.

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Vanesa S's avatar

*beast (societies) not best

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Vanesa S's avatar

All Best societies did and are doomed to collapse... and yet it is mankind that has always lived on.

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rbj's avatar

That is a fine secular view. But did they have the WMD's of today?

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rbj's avatar

I don't think the word "tech" existed then.

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rbj's avatar

If you have not been listening to the WEF, then you are ripe to fall in line. The future you speak of is the one they want, controlled by elites. The technology is here to think uniformly. How wonderful. https://youtu.be/QuL3wlodJC8

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

That (?man?) has the most nasally voice.

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rbj's avatar

He's quite annoying. He fits what the description of antichrist is, not saying. It is coming quickly though. The USA has to fall first. Need another forum for this 😉

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

Seems like that fall could happen any day now.

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rbj's avatar

Daniel 12:4

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Frank Zimmerman's avatar

denise, in the early days when America was growing, many people also thought they were entering a "golden age". They thought there would be a millennium on Earth, and that through mass education, the world would become better and better. America was to be the "city on a hill" to lead to the world to this golden age.

The problem with this "vision" is that it totally ignores the sinful nature of man. Give a sinful man the internet and what do you have? Widespread corruption, instantly brought to your house.

The Bible is not intended to portray God as some crabby restrictive ruler, who hinders man's development. That is the lie that Satan put forth in the Garden in Genesis 3. God simply sees what is in man, and can predict what will happen. He tries to warn man not to trust his own wisdom and heart, but each generation seems to become more confident that it can solve its own problems, even though the world is close to extinction due to man's activity.

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

This is what the world is thinking of America nowadays. This video just came out a few hours ago, coincidental with your comment.

https://youtu.be/yHMHQ-1Pe6k

Gonzalo Lira is living in Ukraine, and I prefer his insight for news on the war, which this video does not talk about at all. He also seems agnostic at best, but still makes some excellent points.

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Ruth Butros's avatar

God loves you Denise. He is real and he does love you. You are a treasure to Him and He's waiting for you to bring your comments to Him. Pray and see the reality.

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denise ward's avatar

Please don't put your fantasies onto me. I respect you and I know your intentions are good but I don't need no god. What you said is to me like saying "the tooth fairy didn't leave any money for you but he loves you none the less. Don't be mad with the tooth fairy". Really that's what this idea of god is. If he was real he would have struck me down by now because I hate all gods and have for many decades.

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Lisa Sullivan's avatar

I believe the Catholic interpretation of Scripture. The Book of Revelation, though rich in symbolism, describes the happenings at the end of time. Many of the current trends such as globalism, anti- Christian beliefs and practices, central bank digital currency ushering in the digital ID to buy and sell, the embrace and spread of death through the sacrifice of unborn babies, euthanasia, man made viruses and their destructive antidotes, are just some of the current events and trends which make me think the end is sooner rather than later. Regardless, each of us will soon face our own death, and will be held accountable for our actions in defending Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life, or not. The cost of this defense will require great courage at a minimum, and more likely than not, suffering an even death. This pandemic has opened my eyes to the corruption and evil that was well-hidden. Therefore, I am strengthening my relationship with our triune God so that I can follow his lead in this ongoing struggle between good and evil. I will continue to pray for you, Dr. McCullough! You have been a huge source of good, and continue to fight the battle for freedom and health, for which I am very grateful❣️🙏🏻

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joe keyes's avatar

Well said. Thank you.

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rbj's avatar

Wow, solid eschatology. Thought Catholicism stayed away from that

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

You and I both Dr. McCullough...you and I both. God bless Sir.

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Carol Louise's avatar

Yes. The book of Revelation is getting a lot of interest these days. At a minimum it’s relatable now.

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Frank Zimmerman's avatar

It always was relatable. The Waldensian church was a small persecuted church in the alps of northern Italy, during the Roman Catholic domination of Europe (prior to the Reformation). Their logo showed the seven candlesticks, with the fourth one (Thyatira) lit up. They recognized they were in that period of church history.

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Andrea's avatar

John writes the Revelation of Jesus Christ. It's not the Revelation of John.

Brenda Weltner on youtube has an incredible amount of material on this book. She has been researching it for 5 years and has a unique understanding of the prophetic endtimes.

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Yes correct and it is the one book that says you will be blessed for studying it.

I will take a look at B. Weltner’s interpretation of Revelation. Do you know what view she leans toward?

Amillennialists, Premillennialist, Postmillennialist? If you are not sure that is ok, I will take a look.

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Andrea's avatar

Brenda used to lean on a standard pre-(7 yr) trib view. But she realised it didn't stack up and threw 40 years of bible study out, and started again. Now she has her very own view, and it is to be honest, quite incredible. She uses the entire bible to explain Revelation with types and shadows. There are hundreds of videos on her site. Her main assumptions are:

1 The entire book is written for the future.

2 The visions are overlapping.

3 It is not in chronological order.

4 All time is actual time.

5 The Revelation 12 sign happened on 23 September 2017

6 The is no 7 year tribulation/wrath

Enjoy!

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you

I can agree with all points including #5

The astronomical Rev 12 signs including the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars above her head and giving birth happened 9/23/17

This sign and others started me on my journey over a year ago so I started writing on my substack. Check out my profile.

Enjoy!

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Natasha Mudford's avatar

I find Brenda's outlook very hopeful. I hope you will give her channel plenty of time.

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Natasha - thank you for the reference to Brenda Weltner's study.

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James Beck's avatar

I suggest checking out a true Escatogist (understanding the End of Days), Pastor Allen Nolan of Cornerstone Ministry.

YouTube or his Website has his complete (79 video teachings verese by verse) of connecting both the Book of Daniel & Revelations.

You will come away understanding that we are truly the Terminal Generation of witnessing the 2nd coming of Jesus and the coming Rapture of his Church & Bride.

Rapture = 2023-26.

Prepare. Look for the Convergence of Signs.

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Samwise's avatar

Nero didn't need Dominion voting machines.

But our current-day iteration of that ruthless and utterly corrupt chief executive, who also has "an insatiable desire for aggrandizement and total domination of all people," did. Excepting that, we are living through the same horrifying tyranny which led to John's exile, that is, cancelation. No wonder you are "thinking a lot about [John] and his strange Revelation."

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Elizabeth Hanson's avatar

We finished a study of Daniel in bible study and talked also about John. Thank you Doctor for writing this post. I see the world today as a war between the the bible's seven sins and the power of love... lightness vs dark. When people give up their common sense and critical thinking and get greedy and power hungry... well, we have what we have.

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Pamilla's avatar

Righteous indignation, also called righteous anger, in some Christian doctrines, is considered the only form of anger which is not sinful. Nor is covert action.

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Fred Mrozek's avatar

See Revelations 18:23.

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John Ben-Daniel (dr)'s avatar

Thanks for this extremely relevant focus on a widely maligned part of our Scriptures: the last and most difficult part. I have dedicated many years to the study of this text and I would just like to make 3 short points to potential readers: start at the end, in chapters 21-22, for a glimpse of the future awaiting us if we have faith and continue to witness that Faith. Before we get there, difficult times are ahead, and if you want John's description, go straight to chapter 13. Final point, the author/seer, John, is indeed the Apostle: Early Church tradition is nearly unanimous on that (see Eusebius, Church History for that) and the arguments against it are all disposable (here is my own takedown: https://www.newtorah.org/pdf/Saint%20John%20Apostle%20or%20Incognito.pdf ).

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andrea's avatar

so much congruence at it is about 2000 years or so ago?!!! amazing! Either men always stay the same throughout history and there are among us always those who want to destruct und supress their fellow human beings for their own benefits (which is of course a very short sighted strategy as no man is an island intire of itself and cannot survive on his own), or John of Patmos was a true visonary of 2020 - 2030! We seem to slowly move in to the era of the black horseman if Holland continues to urge its farmers to kill their lifestock and Billy Goat pushes ahead with his factory made meat and food (which of course runs fully on solar energy and has no CO2 or Methane out put what so ever...) and will only be delivered to those who's digital ID is up to date with jabs and hasn't much CO2 output on it.. let's start to green our flat roof tops and start sprouting our own veggies! maybe some cows in NYC central park or o parking lots that we cover in soil ?! Thank You Peter McCullough for sharing your rich knowledge of history!! and even a capitan - sailor!!! May you be well and all your loved ones!! Thank You!

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PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

That's what I find fascinating about the Bible. It does seem to understand the human nature and to provide a manual on how to deal with it constructively.

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rbj's avatar

Basic

Instructions

Before

Leaving

Earth

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Gerlinde Stradwick's avatar

There is a bit of theological doubt about the writers opinion of The Revelation Of Jesus Christ. It is clearly John of Patmos the beloved disciple. We are seeing exactly what he wrote about unfolding in our time. The stage is being set for the Antichrist. See Daniel 7 and 12

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you for posting this.

There are four basic views of Revelation:

Idealist (Allegory),

Preterist (all happened before 70 AD),

Historicist (the Ancient Church, Roman Catholicism, etc.)

Futurist (literal premillennialism)

Here is a Four Horseman Recap using a literal futurist view. Very timely.

https://ephesians610.substack.com/p/the-four-horseman-recap

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

I highly recommend Dr. Taylor Marshall's book, "Antichrist and Apocalypse" !

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Tess Lively's avatar

Yes, Taylor Marshall is an excellent Biblical scholar.

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PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

John Coleman (I think it was him) also had an interesting interpretation regarding Corona being the crown of thorns, and the soldiers spitting on Jesus on the cross being alike to the injections because they are about infecting with genetic material such as contained in saliva. He explains it more compelling than I do here. In his Exposé article about the Moderna-patented material from 2013/16 being contained (albeit backwards, or in a to be rewritten/yet to be converted way) in the official SARS CoV 2 virus. If that article was by him. Could have been "From a concerned reader".

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Ender E. Law's avatar

Thank you for sharing.

There are some who interpret the temple being our bodies and genetic corruption.

An analysis from last year:

https://open.substack.com/pub/ephesians610/p/revelation-11-3rd-temple-analysis?utm_source=direct&r=zct5c&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Also an analysis of the Crown, stephanos in Greek, corona in Latin, on the 1st horseman:

https://ephesians610.substack.com/p/part-3-the-first-horseman-was-given

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rbj's avatar

It is a good time for that research, doc. I suggest post haste even. A quick read would be Matthew 24. GODSPEED

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Mac Worley's avatar

Humble edit: Rev 13:18 rather than 13:8

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