It could be that it depends on your definition of a child. Is a 16 year old girl a child? She's young but even in the US, she can get married at that age and a significant number of them have sex without marriage. I'm not condoning anything done by Epstein and his "pals" but I can see where it may not be sex-trafficking children.
except that the age of consent in the Virgin Islands is 18 so technically any males having sex with someone younger than that is guilty of some form of rape
OK, but she has to report it to law enforcement, right? If a report is done contemporaneously, no argument, there is a case there (in the Virgin island). But what if there is no contemporaneous report then some public statement is made decades later?
Now, let's do this in all 50 states and the remaining territories. I'm curious what the age of consent is everywhere else under US jurisdiction.
The age of consent is 16 in about half of the United States, it is 17 in about eight states and all the rest are at 18. some states such as Florida have a “Romeo and Juliet“ exception which allows a male to have sex with someone under the age consent as long as he’s not too much older.
Thank you for that information. Isn't it 19 in Nebraska? I remember that in relation to age for informed consent to participate in research but am not sure if that also applies to consent in general.
There may be a list, similar in form to a shopping list, one name after another for the purpose of listing targets in a single document. But it's likely there isn't. The names, list or not, would be interspersed within the files. The fixation on a "list" seems misguided to me. If no formal "list" exists, that doesn't mean they don't have all the names.
The evidence available clearly shows Epstein was a CIA asset. There is no doubt. And then, also in the public record, we see Bill Clinton introducing Epstein to Israeli intelligence. This raises the valid suspicion that he was also a Mossad asset. Epstein was also sponsored, in financial and social circles by the big banks, especially JP Morgan. The media circus that keeps the dog-and-pony show of indiscretion, pedophiles, lax morals going is clearly a diversion. The true crushing "reveal" is not about this guy or that guy. Rather it is the question of whether or not special interests, whether they be globalist elites or foreign nations, controlled our (supposedly) free Constitutional Republic through extortion. Have our lives been controlled by criminal operatives hiding behind the veil of secrecy of national security? That discussion is not going to be front and center with a CIA controlled media.
This endorsement of House vote is total PR ploy to avoid looking weak & biggest joke is that DoJ falls under the Executive branch and Trump can order release instantly no votes from Congress is required.. instead DoJ is moving to hide much of the content as part of ongoing investigation. This is what a government run by criminal Mafia looks like.. both sides.
Actually the Dems have had the files for years but would NEVER release them because there are Democrats in those files. So now the Dems are making a huge deal of Trump releasing the files because they know he can't.
-"Release the Epstein Files" billboard: In September 2025, Indivisible DeSoto organized a billboard in Southaven, Mississippi, urging Congress to release the Epstein files. Group chair (democrat) Kelly Jacobs said they took the action to hold officials accountable for failing to release information that taxpayers paid for.
It seems to me that handler Susie Wiles, at the behest of Miriam Adelson and BiBi Netanyahu, has been keeping a lid on Epstein revelations that will create a huge backlash against their interests.
Yes. this line of thinking is closer to the truth. Susie Swamp and Billionaire Las Vegas mob lady are among those who have managed to get the entire nation to forget/ignore a genocide and a land grab--the one that they are paying for with their taxes. That's quite a card trick for a couple of grandmothers.
Is it because I’m old that I see it so clearly? What would be the equivalent term for a honeypot operation, but one under the guise of the benign grandmother….
Max Blumethal recently called JD Vance a “BiBi sitter” which I loved.
He set a high bar with that. I’d love it if someone could come with something as cleverly incisive for the scheming grannies … Gangsta Grams on the loose is very good. Not as good as BiBi sitter but close.
(I am a bit reluctant to be analyzing a joke when there really are lives at stake but I do because humor can move the political needle when logic fails.)
Trump's in PANIC mode. He knows he's a lame duck now, and has lost the mid terms short of a miracle with the economy.
He's losing the MAHA crowd since they're not posting any points on the board. Disbanding and recreating the ACIP panel only to have them turn around and reauthorize covid shots and ADDing self amplifying ModRNA shots to the approval list didn't help.
Gaslighting the American populace that prices are down and inflation is under control isn't helping. We all know our wages are still far below current inflation, let alone what already happened in the last 5 years.
Doubling down on the Biden inflation policies with more stimulus checks and permanent debt slavery with 50 year mortgages and 15 year loans.
A completely useless AG and DOJ aren't helping him any.
Backing down and allowing the continued coverup of evidence of the assassination attempts is helping him any.
Chasing out Elon and DOGE and enacting nothing there sure hasn't helped.
Promising the Epstein files then attacking his base for asking for them already permanently turned off many voters.
Backpeddling on the Epstein files after a year of misdirection, failed promises, and attacks isn't going to get him any points. Especially after attacking conservative Rs for asking for them
This is just a Hail Mary as he sees his approvals fall.
And I don't even think that he understands he's not on the ballot ever again, so there's no more cult of personality to help down-ballot republicans not lose.
All his fault for 10 years of endorsing Rinos and entrenched republicans instead of primary candidates that were true MAGA or conservative.
Are you too behaving like a Democrat John!! Your “hypothesis” is full of insinuations, stealthily directed toward the only leader in the entire world that’s doing anything to make life better for the country’s people. You give “importance” to the word Epstein when in truthful reality, it only appeals to a certain psychological level of rather ill people!!
Keep your focus on some great and positive happenings in the US! Be deeply thankful you don’t call Canada home!
Hmmm, could it be that Pam Bondi and her crew have held off on releasing them until they finished scrubbing them and redacting any potentially deleterious mention of Trump in them? Just sayin'.....
Everything damning to the deep state was probably already scrubbed or moved elsewhere. Telling the truth from the beginning would have been better. Now, particularly with AI and how we've seen it used to fabricate evidence, there's no way to believe or trust anything put out.
Epstein was likely a honeypot used by Mossad, the CIA, and other organizations.
Totally agree. The notion that there is some sacred place where all the pristine evidence has been diligently safeguarded over the years is laughable. We'll never know the truth if 'truth' has been safeguarded by a secretive entity full of ambitious hubristic people. As we've learned (hopefully) if the facts don't suit them, they'll just makeup their own 'facts'.
Obama sat on these files during his reign and so did Biden to a degree.
Young underage females & males have been used by power holders to blackmail their opponents, for a very very long time. This is probably a drop in the bucket compared to others in the past. I am concerned that Michelle Obama is trying to start another racist chaos and this is being funded by Arab money. Malcom X..was the first to start destroying black family units and the Arab community probably funded that too. It is all about getting a foot hold here. I also wondered about the East wing being done up in gold, as that is a favorite color for the Arabian power communities. I do feel Trump has made progress in stepping up and doing things that none of the clowns wanted to do. They found a bunch of corruption in the SNAP program too. The USAID non profit corruption is disgusting. The loss of healthy strong Ukraine males in the fabricated war by that Zelensky clown is heartbreaking to say the least.
I am going to make a note here to remind me about John's hypothesis regarding the "sudden" shift of Trump's feelings -- i.e. that all of a sudden he wants the Epstein materials released, etc. All of us yokels, hicks, and rubes may be about to get played by the gubment's Epstein rigmarole. I get the gut feeling that what the public will be shown now is a limp nothing-burger featuring wilted lettuce, a soggy bun, and some stringy meat-like goo on the inside.
Epstein Files are distraction. Let’s look at the financial records. Where did the money come from and where did it go? It was said Epstein was a hedge fund manager yet he registered no trades with SEC as required for those businesses. It’s interesting to speculate on why the powers decided to have him arrested and jailed. If they wanted to just get rid of him there are quieter ways to kill someone like poisonous food. So the method of the kill is important. What’s that message?
That's interesting John and has some Truth. In reality it is a Massive Israeli/Mossad Blackmail and money laundering ring which Captured America - including Trump and ruined young girls in the process and likely much more as you may recall Epstein wanted a little of his DNA in everybody - likely tying into Gates-Plandemic-Bioweapon Jab and more. Epstein's New Mexico Ranch was never raided. Whitney Webb's books Exposes it well with thousands of footnotes. Strange that Leslie Wexner of Victoria's Secrets (He gave Epstein his NYC Mansion - the largest private house in Manhattan for $1) was never indicted.
Add AIPAC Bribery of most politicians and you have an Occupied Government!
Likely Trump and his sycophants destroyed much of the evidence but others such as Mossad, Putin, CIA have it all.
Your narration is interesting and makes sense but even if people are exposed for doing something illegal, nothing will happen to them. For me, I'm like the President, I don't care.
I must be missing something.
How could sex-traffiking children (for decades) ever be dumbed down to just embarrassing?
The DoJ, IC, national law enforcement, at every level, are BROKEN.
It could be that it depends on your definition of a child. Is a 16 year old girl a child? She's young but even in the US, she can get married at that age and a significant number of them have sex without marriage. I'm not condoning anything done by Epstein and his "pals" but I can see where it may not be sex-trafficking children.
except that the age of consent in the Virgin Islands is 18 so technically any males having sex with someone younger than that is guilty of some form of rape
OK, but she has to report it to law enforcement, right? If a report is done contemporaneously, no argument, there is a case there (in the Virgin island). But what if there is no contemporaneous report then some public statement is made decades later?
Now, let's do this in all 50 states and the remaining territories. I'm curious what the age of consent is everywhere else under US jurisdiction.
The age of consent is 16 in about half of the United States, it is 17 in about eight states and all the rest are at 18. some states such as Florida have a “Romeo and Juliet“ exception which allows a male to have sex with someone under the age consent as long as he’s not too much older.
Thank you for that information. Isn't it 19 in Nebraska? I remember that in relation to age for informed consent to participate in research but am not sure if that also applies to consent in general.
Wait - they claimed there was no list (we all believed that, right!!). Lies, lies & more lies
Exactly Bill! I just wrote that this whole topic is a waste of everyone’s time and government resources: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-are-grown-adults-wasting-time
There may be a list, similar in form to a shopping list, one name after another for the purpose of listing targets in a single document. But it's likely there isn't. The names, list or not, would be interspersed within the files. The fixation on a "list" seems misguided to me. If no formal "list" exists, that doesn't mean they don't have all the names.
The evidence available clearly shows Epstein was a CIA asset. There is no doubt. And then, also in the public record, we see Bill Clinton introducing Epstein to Israeli intelligence. This raises the valid suspicion that he was also a Mossad asset. Epstein was also sponsored, in financial and social circles by the big banks, especially JP Morgan. The media circus that keeps the dog-and-pony show of indiscretion, pedophiles, lax morals going is clearly a diversion. The true crushing "reveal" is not about this guy or that guy. Rather it is the question of whether or not special interests, whether they be globalist elites or foreign nations, controlled our (supposedly) free Constitutional Republic through extortion. Have our lives been controlled by criminal operatives hiding behind the veil of secrecy of national security? That discussion is not going to be front and center with a CIA controlled media.
Yeah, ‘Trump Sez … ‘
“Safe ‘n Effective” … with damning Truths REDACTED for
This endorsement of House vote is total PR ploy to avoid looking weak & biggest joke is that DoJ falls under the Executive branch and Trump can order release instantly no votes from Congress is required.. instead DoJ is moving to hide much of the content as part of ongoing investigation. This is what a government run by criminal Mafia looks like.. both sides.
Do you suppose that Trump has been “rope-a-doping“ them all along?
Indeed.
Trump in true Trump fashion has the Dems begging for the Epstein files.
Trump is brilliant.
Yep, it kind of reminds me of “please don’t throw me in that briar patch.”
Or I can’t let you help me paint this fence, well maybe if you let me finish off your apple core…
The documents that the left thinks will bring down Trump will actually help drain the swamp.
Actually the Dems have had the files for years but would NEVER release them because there are Democrats in those files. So now the Dems are making a huge deal of Trump releasing the files because they know he can't.
I don’t know if he is brave, moral or noble. But I do know he has a sense of humor.
This is my advice to every member of Congress and everyone else literally caught with their pants down.
Collectively hold your noses. Collectively take the plunge, confess and move on. No more foreign agendas. We are America first!!
DJT has the wit and acumen to turn this Epstein nastiness into an episode of black humor and put it into the past.
Lots will be forgiven when he gets back on the MAGA train.
I can’t believe the SIGNS by the roads -where I live!
—Release the Epstein Files —
Who is paying for all those expensive road signs!!!??
https://www.fox8live.com/2025/09/04/release-epstein-files-billboard-southaven-catching-eye-drivers/?outputType=amp
-"Release the Epstein Files" billboard: In September 2025, Indivisible DeSoto organized a billboard in Southaven, Mississippi, urging Congress to release the Epstein files. Group chair (democrat) Kelly Jacobs said they took the action to hold officials accountable for failing to release information that taxpayers paid for.
It seems to me that handler Susie Wiles, at the behest of Miriam Adelson and BiBi Netanyahu, has been keeping a lid on Epstein revelations that will create a huge backlash against their interests.
It could be, but I think the embarrassment will be spread around a few other countries as well, including our own!
Yes. I just mention that situation due to its political explosiveness.
Yes. this line of thinking is closer to the truth. Susie Swamp and Billionaire Las Vegas mob lady are among those who have managed to get the entire nation to forget/ignore a genocide and a land grab--the one that they are paying for with their taxes. That's quite a card trick for a couple of grandmothers.
Marvelous. Good way to capture the oddness of this moment. Gangsta grams on the loose.
Is it because I’m old that I see it so clearly? What would be the equivalent term for a honeypot operation, but one under the guise of the benign grandmother….
Max Blumethal recently called JD Vance a “BiBi sitter” which I loved.
He set a high bar with that. I’d love it if someone could come with something as cleverly incisive for the scheming grannies … Gangsta Grams on the loose is very good. Not as good as BiBi sitter but close.
(I am a bit reluctant to be analyzing a joke when there really are lives at stake but I do because humor can move the political needle when logic fails.)
Trump's in PANIC mode. He knows he's a lame duck now, and has lost the mid terms short of a miracle with the economy.
He's losing the MAHA crowd since they're not posting any points on the board. Disbanding and recreating the ACIP panel only to have them turn around and reauthorize covid shots and ADDing self amplifying ModRNA shots to the approval list didn't help.
Gaslighting the American populace that prices are down and inflation is under control isn't helping. We all know our wages are still far below current inflation, let alone what already happened in the last 5 years.
Doubling down on the Biden inflation policies with more stimulus checks and permanent debt slavery with 50 year mortgages and 15 year loans.
A completely useless AG and DOJ aren't helping him any.
Backing down and allowing the continued coverup of evidence of the assassination attempts is helping him any.
Chasing out Elon and DOGE and enacting nothing there sure hasn't helped.
Promising the Epstein files then attacking his base for asking for them already permanently turned off many voters.
Backpeddling on the Epstein files after a year of misdirection, failed promises, and attacks isn't going to get him any points. Especially after attacking conservative Rs for asking for them
This is just a Hail Mary as he sees his approvals fall.
And I don't even think that he understands he's not on the ballot ever again, so there's no more cult of personality to help down-ballot republicans not lose.
All his fault for 10 years of endorsing Rinos and entrenched republicans instead of primary candidates that were true MAGA or conservative.
Are you too behaving like a Democrat John!! Your “hypothesis” is full of insinuations, stealthily directed toward the only leader in the entire world that’s doing anything to make life better for the country’s people. You give “importance” to the word Epstein when in truthful reality, it only appeals to a certain psychological level of rather ill people!!
Keep your focus on some great and positive happenings in the US! Be deeply thankful you don’t call Canada home!
Hmmm, could it be that Pam Bondi and her crew have held off on releasing them until they finished scrubbing them and redacting any potentially deleterious mention of Trump in them? Just sayin'.....
Everything damning to the deep state was probably already scrubbed or moved elsewhere. Telling the truth from the beginning would have been better. Now, particularly with AI and how we've seen it used to fabricate evidence, there's no way to believe or trust anything put out.
Epstein was likely a honeypot used by Mossad, the CIA, and other organizations.
Totally agree. The notion that there is some sacred place where all the pristine evidence has been diligently safeguarded over the years is laughable. We'll never know the truth if 'truth' has been safeguarded by a secretive entity full of ambitious hubristic people. As we've learned (hopefully) if the facts don't suit them, they'll just makeup their own 'facts'.
If there was anything bad for DJT, wouldn't that weasel Merrick Garland have already released it?
100% yes.
Wait, I thought he said they didn’t exist?
Maybe Mossad said they would leave his name out this time?
Obama sat on these files during his reign and so did Biden to a degree.
Young underage females & males have been used by power holders to blackmail their opponents, for a very very long time. This is probably a drop in the bucket compared to others in the past. I am concerned that Michelle Obama is trying to start another racist chaos and this is being funded by Arab money. Malcom X..was the first to start destroying black family units and the Arab community probably funded that too. It is all about getting a foot hold here. I also wondered about the East wing being done up in gold, as that is a favorite color for the Arabian power communities. I do feel Trump has made progress in stepping up and doing things that none of the clowns wanted to do. They found a bunch of corruption in the SNAP program too. The USAID non profit corruption is disgusting. The loss of healthy strong Ukraine males in the fabricated war by that Zelensky clown is heartbreaking to say the least.
I am going to make a note here to remind me about John's hypothesis regarding the "sudden" shift of Trump's feelings -- i.e. that all of a sudden he wants the Epstein materials released, etc. All of us yokels, hicks, and rubes may be about to get played by the gubment's Epstein rigmarole. I get the gut feeling that what the public will be shown now is a limp nothing-burger featuring wilted lettuce, a soggy bun, and some stringy meat-like goo on the inside.
Epstein Files are distraction. Let’s look at the financial records. Where did the money come from and where did it go? It was said Epstein was a hedge fund manager yet he registered no trades with SEC as required for those businesses. It’s interesting to speculate on why the powers decided to have him arrested and jailed. If they wanted to just get rid of him there are quieter ways to kill someone like poisonous food. So the method of the kill is important. What’s that message?
That's interesting John and has some Truth. In reality it is a Massive Israeli/Mossad Blackmail and money laundering ring which Captured America - including Trump and ruined young girls in the process and likely much more as you may recall Epstein wanted a little of his DNA in everybody - likely tying into Gates-Plandemic-Bioweapon Jab and more. Epstein's New Mexico Ranch was never raided. Whitney Webb's books Exposes it well with thousands of footnotes. Strange that Leslie Wexner of Victoria's Secrets (He gave Epstein his NYC Mansion - the largest private house in Manhattan for $1) was never indicted.
Add AIPAC Bribery of most politicians and you have an Occupied Government!
Likely Trump and his sycophants destroyed much of the evidence but others such as Mossad, Putin, CIA have it all.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em...
I suspect Trump had made some deals to keep this under wraps for various interested parties, including MOSSAD and Ehud Barak.
Your narration is interesting and makes sense but even if people are exposed for doing something illegal, nothing will happen to them. For me, I'm like the President, I don't care.