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Bobby's avatar

"It was only then that I realized that our U.S government lies to us about major things". I too took a while to awaken to that fact. At first some things just seemed "off", but when things happen time after time with no acceptable explanation, you finally have to admit the truth that we are lied to constantly. JFK assassination, RFK assassination, MLK assassination, Vietnam, Iraq, 9/11, Benghazi, Epstein, the "pandemic" and associated jabs and associated injuries. In all these cases we are not told the truth. We are told it is being kept secret for the greater good and/or too top secret for us peons. It is all BS.

Patte Kelly's avatar

I was hoping that justice would come after the slap in the face of OUR Heroic Military! I still have Not forgotten, 'What difference does it make '. it makes a LOT of Difference to the FAMILYS....Today , It repeats, " Safe and Effective " ! ! ! It matters to the Families ! 1 !

Stephen Daly's avatar

I would just change "U.S. government" to "the ruling elite". The former is just their executive committee.

Stephen Daly's avatar

Add "The Cold War" to that list of lies/psyop. Everybody misses that one.

Bobby's avatar

Looks like they are trying to bring that one back with Ukraine, and the Russia, Russia, Russia blame games.

RoseMartyn's avatar

Well said!! I have pondered how have they been able to accomplish this? Lots to think about but I can’t help but conclude that Uncle Sam now has a very very large number of average citizens on the payroll, and once this dependency happens … well you can fill in the rest.

Anne Clifton's avatar

After posting recently about covid shot harms, I was told that I believe in fairy tales. It is profoundly sad to me that a person could still be ignorant of all the deaths and disabilities caused by the shots.

Patrick Smith's avatar

Vax injured almost five years now. I deal with this ignorance every day.

Anne Clifton's avatar

And that's why I continue to speak up, Patrick. It is maddening to me that you and so many others have been treated so badly! People can call me whatever names they want to. My favorite so far is being called "an asinine." I will not be silent about what has been done! (Just to clarify, I am 73 and did not take a covid shot.)

Laura Kasner's avatar

Patrick - I’m so very sorry about your injury. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

It's profoundly sad even when they're not ignorant of all the deaths -- When I told a friend that there were over 19,000 deaths reported to VAERS after the "vaccine" in the United States alone, she said "Its all for the greater good." I was dumbfounded. What do you say to that level of denial?

Laura Kasner's avatar

Sheila - perhaps say, if one of those 19,000 was one of your children, would you say the same thing?

Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

I actually did say that, Laura, when I found my voice. But she was starting to yell so I didn't pursue anything further. The rage I encounter (or used to, since I rarely offer any information anymore) seems to me to stem from a deep fear of looking at even the possibility of having done damage to themselves and their families. And of course there's the fear of having to seriously contemplate that the trusted foundations of one's life are crumbling. It's all so incredibly sad.

Laura Kasner's avatar

It truly is Sheila.

When i woke up 6 months after getting my second Covid shot, I thought the anger would eat me alive. It was like everything I once believed to be true was nothing but a bunch of lies. The most devastating, being the fact that my two older brothers, who I once believed to be brilliant and was incredibly close to were completely blinded by all the lies. We've been estranged for over 4 years now. Thank God my sister and I are on the same page.

Through much prayer, God put me in a position to put that anger to work. I thank Him every day for the opportunities He's put in my path. God's word tells us over 300 times to not fear. Everyday, I remind myself of that.

Anne Clifton's avatar

I haven't spoken to my brother in nearly 5 years. He persecuted me for 20 years over political differences and covid. He told me before our estrangement (via email) "maybe we should start killing each other." I remembered that after Charlie Kirk was killed. He really, really hates Donald Trump.

Anne Clifton's avatar

That's like when, in the midst of the "vaccine" uptake, one of my "friends" from church saw a post I made and angrily responded, "I've had all my shots and I'm fine!" So it's okay for others to suffer as long as she is fine?? And actually, she and her husband may not be fine. He's begun having seizures.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Hard to "like" this comment Anne. So sad.

When I told an old co-worker about the death of our other co-worker's mother due to the shots, he said the same thing. I found his reply to that dismissive and heartless.

Stephen Dedalus's avatar

But that’s not really denial, right? Your friend’s response illustrates that the true and fundamental nature of the Covid response was not psychological; it was, and remains to be, philosophical. Since man is by nature a conceptual being, it follows that his psychology is affected in large part by his philosophical premises, right or wrong. In other words, his hardware outputs are ultimately influenced by the quality and correctness of his programming—his software. His psychology is a symptom of his conceptual or philosophical premises. Your friend’s retort amounts to a classic example of collectivistic ethics, in this case utilitarianism (the “good” is what is judged to be what is best for the largest number of people.) The subjects of philosophy (in general) or ethics (in particular) are too complex for proper treatment in a comment forum but suffice it to say that your friend’s denial probably had less to do with her unwillingness to a acknowledge a fact of reality and more to do with her uncritical examination of a whole host of false premises that animate her moral framework and, by implication, her moral judgments.

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Seek Objectivism. Learn it. Practice it. Teach it.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Anne - I cannot imagine how frustrating that must be for you. 😢

Anne Clifton's avatar

It is, but I am willing to put up with it. I post things on Nextdoor, knowing people will get mad and that my post may be removed, but if one person is helped, it is worth it. This week I got a message from a woman who saw a post I made inviting people to my church. This must have been in 2022 or 2023. She began attending my church awhile back and wanted to let me know! She's going through the membership process now.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Good for you Anne - it just may be one person at a time.

Lovely that she accepted your invitation to your church.

You may have seen this in a previous comment of mine. I'm hosting a showing of An Inconvenient Study at our church this Thursday evening. Please say a prayer that we have a good turnout - and if it's only people that already know the harms of the childhood vaccines schedule, they are at least moved to share the film with others.

Anne Clifton's avatar

That's fantastic! I will make a note to pray! I don't think my church leaders would be open to that. Things considered "political" aren't mentioned. I was interested in seeing if Letter to the American Church could be shown, but my husband did not think it was a good idea to ask.

Laura Kasner's avatar

It's tragic that the subject of vaccines has been made a political issue when it's truly a health issue.

The first time I asked my pastor to show a film - which was Vaxxed 3, he shot me down because he said he didn't want people who got the shots to feel bad. I reminded him that I got the shots! I prayed about it and then Del's film came out and that one didn't take too much convincing to get him to agree. I told him that it was about our children and letting parents know they've been lied to. He will be at the event to give the invocation and I assume he will stay for the film. I doubt he has watched it yet, so I hope he is moved to allow more educational events at our church in the future.

Damien Buckley's avatar

The vast majority still ignore this daily. To acknowledge it is to accept what they voluntarily did to themselves.

Coincidence Theorist's avatar

Spiritual blindness is more relevant today than we realize.

2 Thes 2:

9 The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10 and with every wicked deception against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11 For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie,

Rebecca Lee (maybeitsmercury)'s avatar

I go back to the Vietnam war and I think I really started questioning things then.

Oh Susanna's avatar

I believe it comes down to a commitment to truth. Most people prefer to believe comfortable lies over dangerous truth. That is a spiritually lethal inclination. We must be ruthlessly committed to seeking, believing, and speaking truth, no matter what it costs us.

LAE's avatar

AMEN! TRUTH!

Ollie's avatar

A spiritual lethal injection. Good one. (i know it's not what you said but it was the first thing i saw;-)

pyrrhus's avatar

I personally adhere to George Carlin's view at this point...Don't believe anything the Government tells the public..and that especially includes all statistics....I was awakened to this by the Vietnam War, but didn't wake up entirely until the Iraq War and 9/11...Not only can you not believe them, you realize that Big Government is fundamentally evil.....

Crixcyon's avatar

Questioning things is an every day operation, not just a few things here and there. As you do this, you come to see that it is not beyond the realm of possibility that 80% of the world is one big fat lie.

earl's avatar

I like to think in terms of the scientific method: everything is a hypothesis waiting to be disproven, so yes, question, question, question. The whole world may not be intentional lies, but just stories we tell ourselves.

Judy El's avatar

It is easy to walk on a smooth road.

Jim Sutton's avatar

The lust for power lies deep within each human, manifesting harmlessly through controlling what one experiences and desires. However, Jesus told Peter that in his last days he would be led where he did not want to go...(John 21:18). I don't think natural selection has anything to do with how the mind works IMHO, I think it is more to do with a rejection of a relationship with God that enhances and exposes the sinful nature that we are all born with. If one does not seek after God and the reality of His presence to help and to guide, responding to God's offer of life, the trajectory fits the premise of repetitive, destructive patterns.

Alan R's avatar

Your title resonates big time with many of us John, perhaps the vast majority who subscribe to your & Peter's substack. At the ripe age of 74 I confess I've been baffled by this question for a *very* long time :o For me the JFK assassination (I was almost 12) and the obvious BS narrative that followed was probably the catalyzing moment or event that triggered my awakening. So much since has only underscored the bafflement!

Kristy W.'s avatar

Spiritual things are spiritually discerned.

LWB's avatar

Discerned

LAE's avatar
6hEdited

I think it’s spiritual and certain people are given or born with this gift to help enlighten others.

earl's avatar

I think curiosity combined with a healthy dose of mistrust/skepticism is the key. Also you have to be willing to admit when you're wrong. I don't know if this is still fashionable, but I suspect the Briggs-Meyers personality type of INTJ (Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging) may be an indicator. If true, that says that some will NEVER get it; not even COVID will open eyes.

Judy El's avatar

Creative thinking , discernment. spiritually aligned.

Lucidbean's avatar

This resonated with me. I have felt for a long time that we have been lied to about nearly everything. We learned to trust heavily in the news we were fed from an early age- it’s the only way we would know what was happening in our world! But now we have news, social media and independent journalists all serving their own interests or the interests of others… so many skewed versions of the truth (and outright lies!) coming from every outlet. We need a word to describe the state of helplessness that we feel when we KNOW in our hearts and feel it in our bones that we aren’t being told truths- but can’t do anything about it. That’s where I am.

Party of 1's avatar

I was a late bloomer. The plandemic is what woke me up. Anyway, you ask and offer an answer an important question, John.

Charles E Robacker's avatar

The JFK assassination was the genesis of my awakening. The major problem that we suffer from is the belief that the 'experts' must know what they are professing and are not to be questioned. My further awakening was learning of the evils of statins about the same time that I was enlightened about the covid shots (poisons) that were injected into about 5.5 billion people. Now, they tell us lies about the Epstein horrors!

Roisin Dubh's avatar

I am confused about why some people can see the facts in certain areas of life but not in others. Many virus disbelievers saw through the mRNA lie, yet are in denial that pathogenic microbes exist.

LAE's avatar
6hEdited

Possible lack of education and firsthand knowledge/visualization of a microbe could be a reason for why they do not believe that microbes exist, even though they have a belief system that there could be something there and it needs to be thwarted….out of plain and simple FEAR.

Once you “SEE IT” physically, especially through a micro lens (microscope, magnifier, etc…) you cannot unsee it.

Others just refuse to think anything could be wrong when it stares them right in the face.

Truth is knowledge; knowledge is power!

Roisin Dubh's avatar

I have repeatedly explained and sometimes provided links that prove giant viruses can be easily seen under a microscope, and the responder will bypass that fact. Baffling!

LAE's avatar

Then it is just plain ignorance. Some people are just wired differently than others who do see truth when it is right in our faces.

There is an old saying…”Ignorance is Bliss”. Those people just want to be happy and live in happy land…Tra La La La La.!

LWB's avatar

Can you provide the links again? I thought viruses are tiny, not giant?

Roisin Dubh's avatar

Some viruses are giant. Easy to look online for articles on this subject.

Coincidence Theorist's avatar

I feel this way about "flat earth" and how many wide-awake truthers either refuse to look into it, or are afraid to go against the grain on the matter. Anyone who can intellectually hold their own on Substack should be able to see right through the heliocentric fairytale. An objective look reveals what should be a low-sitting demarcation line on the IQ test.

Roisin Dubh's avatar

So are you saying the elliptical orbit model is off?

Coincidence Theorist's avatar

If you're referring to the scientific claim of the earth elliptically orbiting the sun at a coincidentally demonic 66,600 mph, it's not only off but a deceptive inversion of reality, as it was intended. Reality being the sun moves in a circuit around the sky, which, as they say, is the limit, and above us. Us being on a round, flat earth as the Scripture more trustworthy than NASA tells us.

I hope that helped in clearing up any confusion.

Roisin Dubh's avatar

There are so many contradictions and errors in scripture. The collected narratives are not a dependable source of inerrant information.

Coincidence Theorist's avatar

I couldn't agree more with your premise regarding contradictions and errors, but that's a Bible version problem, not a Scripture problem. It's also a separate problem, and a major one being run out of the big club's churchianical division. By bringing it up you've weakened your argument, because all the Creation-related contradictions and errors are intentional deviations from the lexicon to support the Roman-Catholic heliocentric doctrine of Creation. Because churchianity and science both answer to the same big club.

Roisin Dubh's avatar

How do you differentiate Scripture from the Bible?