New animal study finds glyphosate and Roundup linked to rare, fatal cancers in multiple organs—even at doses legally defined as "safe" by U.S. and EU regulators.
A landscaper told me of a safe and effective weed killer that works. You can make your own batch or can buy it ready made at Home Depot (Harris Sea Salt Weed and Grass Killer). You can buy a simple spryer to apply it. Here is the recipe: 1 gallon vinegar, 1 cup table salt, 1 to 2 Tablespoons of Dawn Dish Soap. Much safer.
I just use straight white vinegar (pour it on to kill roots)on small areas like paths where weeds are just emerging, would also refrain from using salt.
for larger areas I spread old blankets/sheets or heavily mulch before weeds emerge which works great
I used a heavy salt solution on horse nettle. Burns up in the sun but comes right back as soon as it rains. Salt has had no effect on my soil. Go figure!
Just bought a weed digger set of three tools. The best approach is digging weeds up and letting good flora outcompete it. Don’t cut grass too short as that encourages weeds.
If one uses salt, NaCl, it tends to make the soil so that nothing will grow. Use salt in the mixture. only if you are spraying roads, driveways, walkways....
I also add Borax to the vinegar and any dish soap (as a surfactant). There is 5% Acetic acid "normal" vinegar, but also 7% pickling vinegar and 10% cleaning vinegar. The mixture does not work as well as Glyphosate, but it doesn't kill you.,
It kills plants not insects, but its a huge problem now. I remember workingvwith a landscape designer 35 years ago, and he was under the impression that you could basically DRINK "Round Up" and it wouldnt hurt you!
Why was "Round Up" toxicity covered up for this long? Were the tests CORRUPT? Is there ANY govetnment agency that is "fit for purpose"? I know that they all LIE, thats a GIVEN. I KNOW they bribe or SOMEHOW "get around" testing!
WHY are our tax dollars spent on these agengies "protecting us"?
Why of course, it is a kill game wherein the world population is being reduced. That was always the scheme same as the world wars and the continuing saga of the fake jab that kills and was added to the aborticidal maniacal baby murdering bastards.
This study demonstrated glyphosate is not carcinogenic, and actually safer than I thought. Approx 1-2% of rats fed 100x allowable exposure to glyphosate DAILY FOR ENTIRE LIFE, developed leukemia. Human incidence of leukemia is about 0.2%. So if you eat glyphosate at 100x allowable limit every day of your life for 80 years you would likewise get to about 2% risk of leukemia. I personally thought glyphosate was far more carcinogenic before I read this study, but it greatly alleviated my concerns.
soooo, make an effort to eat organic food and/or grow your own. After 30 years on the market, glyphosate is dangerous and should never have been allowed.
While this study is making waves globally, here in New Zealand our regulators are moving in the opposite direction.
The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) is currently proposing to increase the allowable levels of glyphosate residue on dozens of food crops — including staples like wheat, maize, and soy. Many of these changes would bring us in line with the highest limits permitted internationally, not the safest.
It’s hard to reconcile these proposals with mounting evidence like this.
If you’re in NZ, you can learn more (and take action) at NoMoreGlyphosate.nz.
This is complete and utter bullshit. Yes, if you are stupid enough to ingest glyphosate directly, you should have problems. That's why they use rats for the study. Look at the dosages administered. The FACT of the matter is that the chemical becomes INERT when applied to a plant and the chemical is translocated to the roots where the plant dies. It's just like gasoline: when used properly, no problem. If you drink it, you've got problems.
I use a weed torch in gravel. And then I use 1 gallon 30% vinegar which I get at Home Depot with a tablespoon of dish soap,, and a cup cup of salt. And I spray it on weeds that I don’t want. And they die. Non-toxic not carcinogenic. I will never use that poisonous stuff again. I use a cheap pump sprayer from Walmart.
Sprague-Dawley rats are bred to be highly susceptible to spontaneous cancers.
For example: "A tumor incidence of 57 per cent was observed in 150 [Sprague-Dawley] female rats allowed to live [normally, while 100] similar rats on a special fat rich diet developed an 80 per cent tumor incidence."
In your Panzacchi study, Nicholas, all the rats, exposed and controls, lived equivalently long lives. The group sizes (51 rats) are just barely adequate, statistically.
If knowing about glyphosate is so important, then why isn't there a 10,000 rat study; rats with humanized immune systems to yield directly relevant data, rather than rats that are tumor factories.
Bruce Ames famously published, "Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural)"
Plants all make pesticides naturally, in their ancient war with herbivores and insects. Ames noted that natural pesticides are generally as toxic as synthetic ones, and our livers are well-designed to remove them.
Ames suggested dietary pesticide risk should be calibrated in units of peanut butter sandwiches - given the ubiquity of aflatoxin in them.
Your second paper Nicholas, the Zhang, et al., meta-analysis, published relative risk (RR) rather than absolute risk.
RR is a way of hiding the truth. For example, if risk changes from 1/million to 2/million on exposure, the change has a RR = 2 because the chances of harm have doubled.
But in the real world no one cares about an increased risk of 1/million to 2/million. The change is 99.9999% safe to 99.9998% safe.
Risk/benefit is always the proper calculation. That wasn't done here.
Maybe now the food discussion can ditch the new "seed oil" mantra to focus on bulk of Roundup Ready GMO corn, soy, canola, cotton, sugar beets soaked in glyphosate up to 10X the strength of Roundup used in homeowner driveways but in MOST processed foods.
Patent protected Rockefeller-Gates-Monsanto- Biotech Mafia GMO make this glyphosate soaked mode work.. no worries most GMO "life science" have cancer drug operations too!l
A landscaper told me of a safe and effective weed killer that works. You can make your own batch or can buy it ready made at Home Depot (Harris Sea Salt Weed and Grass Killer). You can buy a simple spryer to apply it. Here is the recipe: 1 gallon vinegar, 1 cup table salt, 1 to 2 Tablespoons of Dawn Dish Soap. Much safer.
Sounds like what the Romans used to make sure nothing grew in the defeated country Carthage's soil.
Salt will RUIN SOIL, I believe.
I just use straight white vinegar (pour it on to kill roots)on small areas like paths where weeds are just emerging, would also refrain from using salt.
for larger areas I spread old blankets/sheets or heavily mulch before weeds emerge which works great
I used a heavy salt solution on horse nettle. Burns up in the sun but comes right back as soon as it rains. Salt has had no effect on my soil. Go figure!
probably all the rain flushes the salt out
No, the Romans used Palmolive.
Just bought a weed digger set of three tools. The best approach is digging weeds up and letting good flora outcompete it. Don’t cut grass too short as that encourages weeds.
If one uses salt, NaCl, it tends to make the soil so that nothing will grow. Use salt in the mixture. only if you are spraying roads, driveways, walkways....
I also add Borax to the vinegar and any dish soap (as a surfactant). There is 5% Acetic acid "normal" vinegar, but also 7% pickling vinegar and 10% cleaning vinegar. The mixture does not work as well as Glyphosate, but it doesn't kill you.,
I’ve tried this alternative. The effects were short lived.
I use that recipe too, works great. Thanks for sharing!
I have used the homemade weed killer — it was only mildly effective. But better than Roundup for my family’s health.
Everything they do indicates they want us dead.
This crap should have been banned at least 20 years ago. They knew at least that far back that it is very dangerous.
It kills plants not insects, but its a huge problem now. I remember workingvwith a landscape designer 35 years ago, and he was under the impression that you could basically DRINK "Round Up" and it wouldnt hurt you!
Why was "Round Up" toxicity covered up for this long? Were the tests CORRUPT? Is there ANY govetnment agency that is "fit for purpose"? I know that they all LIE, thats a GIVEN. I KNOW they bribe or SOMEHOW "get around" testing!
WHY are our tax dollars spent on these agengies "protecting us"?
Why of course, it is a kill game wherein the world population is being reduced. That was always the scheme same as the world wars and the continuing saga of the fake jab that kills and was added to the aborticidal maniacal baby murdering bastards.
Everything but the Covid Vax
Both are carcinogenic.
This study demonstrated glyphosate is not carcinogenic, and actually safer than I thought. Approx 1-2% of rats fed 100x allowable exposure to glyphosate DAILY FOR ENTIRE LIFE, developed leukemia. Human incidence of leukemia is about 0.2%. So if you eat glyphosate at 100x allowable limit every day of your life for 80 years you would likewise get to about 2% risk of leukemia. I personally thought glyphosate was far more carcinogenic before I read this study, but it greatly alleviated my concerns.
soooo, make an effort to eat organic food and/or grow your own. After 30 years on the market, glyphosate is dangerous and should never have been allowed.
Table 1 from Ames (1990)
https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.87.19.7777
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Forty-nine natural pesticides and metabolites found in cabbage
Glucosinolates: 2-propenyl glucosinolate (sinigrin),* 3-methylthiopropyl glucosinolate, 3-methylsulfinylpropyl glucosinolate, 3-butenylglucosinolate, 2-hydroxy-3-butenyl glucosinolate, 4-methylthiobutyl glucosinolate, 4-methylsulfinylbutyl glucosinolate, 4-methylsulfonylbutyl glucosinolate, benzyl glucosinolate, 2-phenylethyl glucosinolate, propyl glucosinolate, butyl glucosinolate
Indole glucosinolates and related indoles: 3-indolylmethyl glucosinolate (glucobrassicin), 1-methoxy-3-indolylmethyl glucosinolate(neoglucobrassicin), indole-3-carbinol, indole-3-acetonitrile, bis(3-indolyl)methane
Isothiocyanates and goitrin: allyl isothiocyanate, 3-methylthiopropyl isothiocyanate, 3-methylsulfinylpropyl isothiocyanate, 3-butenylisothiocyanate, 5-vinyloxazolidine-2-thione (goitrin), 4-methylthiobutyl isothiocyanate, 4-methylsulfinylbutyl isothiocyanate,
4-methylsulfonylbutyl isothiocyanate, 4-pentenyl isothiocyanate, benzyl isothiocyanate, phenylethyl isothiocyanate
Cyanides: 1-cyano-2,3-epithiopropane, 1-cyano-3,4-epithiobutane, 1-cyano-3,4-epithiopentane, threo-1-cyano-2-hydroxy-3,4-epithiobutane, erythro-1-cyano-2-hydroxy-3,4-epithiobutane, 2-phenylpropionitrile, allyl cyanide,* 1-cyano-2-hydroxy-3-butene, 1-cyano-3-methylsulfinylpropane, 1-cyano-4-methylsulfinylbutane
Terpenes: menthol, neomenthol, isomenthol, carvone
Phenols: 2-methoxyphenol, 3-caffoylquinic acid (chlorogenic acid), 4-caffoylquinic acid, 5-caffoylquinic acid (neochlorogenic acid), 4-(p-coumaroyl)quinic acid, 5-(p-coumaroyl)quinic acid, 5-feruloylquinic acid.
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I'm not opposed to caution, but prefer to work from knowledge.
While this study is making waves globally, here in New Zealand our regulators are moving in the opposite direction.
The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) is currently proposing to increase the allowable levels of glyphosate residue on dozens of food crops — including staples like wheat, maize, and soy. Many of these changes would bring us in line with the highest limits permitted internationally, not the safest.
It’s hard to reconcile these proposals with mounting evidence like this.
If you’re in NZ, you can learn more (and take action) at NoMoreGlyphosate.nz.
This is complete and utter bullshit. Yes, if you are stupid enough to ingest glyphosate directly, you should have problems. That's why they use rats for the study. Look at the dosages administered. The FACT of the matter is that the chemical becomes INERT when applied to a plant and the chemical is translocated to the roots where the plant dies. It's just like gasoline: when used properly, no problem. If you drink it, you've got problems.
Glyphosate - exists for multiple profit points and none include your health. Roundup - means - Runnn!!
I use a weed torch in gravel. And then I use 1 gallon 30% vinegar which I get at Home Depot with a tablespoon of dish soap,, and a cup cup of salt. And I spray it on weeds that I don’t want. And they die. Non-toxic not carcinogenic. I will never use that poisonous stuff again. I use a cheap pump sprayer from Walmart.
So how many milligrams of glyphosate are in a box of corn flakes?
Why is it allowed in our food? It just seems deliberate.
I'm not impressed.
Sprague-Dawley rats are bred to be highly susceptible to spontaneous cancers.
For example: "A tumor incidence of 57 per cent was observed in 150 [Sprague-Dawley] female rats allowed to live [normally, while 100] similar rats on a special fat rich diet developed an 80 per cent tumor incidence."
Citing: https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/16/3/194/473297/Tumor-Incidence-in-Normal-Sprague-Dawley-Female
Should we ban pork, brie, and ice cream?
Also: "Spontaneous neoplastic lesions in aged Sprague-Dawley rats"
"The total tumor incidences were 70 to 76.7% and 87 to 95.8% in males and females, respectively."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11381627/
In your Panzacchi study, Nicholas, all the rats, exposed and controls, lived equivalently long lives. The group sizes (51 rats) are just barely adequate, statistically.
If knowing about glyphosate is so important, then why isn't there a 10,000 rat study; rats with humanized immune systems to yield directly relevant data, rather than rats that are tumor factories.
Bruce Ames famously published, "Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural)"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC54831/ (open access and highly recommended).
which brings rational light to the subject.
Plants all make pesticides naturally, in their ancient war with herbivores and insects. Ames noted that natural pesticides are generally as toxic as synthetic ones, and our livers are well-designed to remove them.
Ames suggested dietary pesticide risk should be calibrated in units of peanut butter sandwiches - given the ubiquity of aflatoxin in them.
Your second paper Nicholas, the Zhang, et al., meta-analysis, published relative risk (RR) rather than absolute risk.
RR is a way of hiding the truth. For example, if risk changes from 1/million to 2/million on exposure, the change has a RR = 2 because the chances of harm have doubled.
But in the real world no one cares about an increased risk of 1/million to 2/million. The change is 99.9999% safe to 99.9998% safe.
Risk/benefit is always the proper calculation. That wasn't done here.
Maybe now the food discussion can ditch the new "seed oil" mantra to focus on bulk of Roundup Ready GMO corn, soy, canola, cotton, sugar beets soaked in glyphosate up to 10X the strength of Roundup used in homeowner driveways but in MOST processed foods.
Patent protected Rockefeller-Gates-Monsanto- Biotech Mafia GMO make this glyphosate soaked mode work.. no worries most GMO "life science" have cancer drug operations too!l