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Andrew J. Cass's avatar

What’s most amazing is that they actually had the ethical fortitude to terminate the trials versus just thrusting it onto the population like usual.

Ted's avatar

You are charitable in your assessment, Andrew, which is a testament to your good character.

It wasn't ethical fortitude, it was risk management; they thought that they had "buried the bodies" deeply enough with their last murderous experiment, and discovered that it wasn't as deeply as they thought.

Business is business, and it's always only and ever about the money. There is no morality, no ethic involved, only risk management. Every once in a great while, the owner of a privately-held company acts according to principle as a personal choice based in morality, but there is no moral standard that rules a publicly-held corporation, ever. Morality is by and for individuals; a board of directors is a group.

Elwood R. Bernat's avatar

Corporations are one notch away from Communism in terms of deceit only in America because we have a Constitution. That cowardice of truth is especially true in academic’s that decades ago (1960’s “cultural Revolution” to hate America) were captured by enemy’s “foreign and domestic” to the American ideal.

It’s in the Constitution and Bill of Rights to follow, but then as Franklin said,

“If you can keep it. Controlling one’s cowardice, or fear of losing or not gaining (coveting greed) is a citizen responsibility that understands and appreciate a nations uniqueness of home.

Allow in those who either despise to enslave or eradicate one’s home under the guise of heartfelt foolishness virtuous signaling because of demoralization and a national sense of loathsomeness and the covert cancer of corruption will spread by complicity.

All of that happened intentionally during the 1960’s and 70’s upon the coming of age of my Boomer generation at university.

They always capture the academics first, then the bureaucracy through the Representatives.

I knew six decades ago having survived combat in Vietnam only to come home to the slander promulgated by foreign news outlets BBC and French AP used by the youthful antagonists at America’s most strategically astute political universities like UC Berkeley, Chi town Law, Columbia, Boston, HUP, Hopkins, Georgetown, that the enemies were already in the gates at home insidiously promulgating loathsomeness.

It’s ok to be proud of one’s home, but if you were around in the 1960’s you would have been mocked for doing so, let alone fighting for it.

Elwood R. Bernat's avatar

Here’s the kicker. It was all sold to my 80M Boomer generation’s over zealously youthful fertile minds, especially at university under the guise of global peace, free love and street drugs (Roe v Wade 1973), slogans, songs, and banners, damn history. Burn the cities, loot, murder, attack the uniformed services.

Same as today promoted by the historic Democrat Plantation Party “for the little guy” promulgated by the monarchal bloodlines of the Banks of London (1694), and Lloyds of London (1688). Interestingly the idea of insuring the money came before where to do the transactions to pay for global collusion, albeit commerce, shipping, commodity, or war on the people once their fostered Communist, Fascist, and Islamist proxies get out of hand and beg America to save their “motherland”.

The Brits may have claimed to have ended slavery before the colonies, but that was because they promoted slavery in America to keep the cotton and tobacco coming to Europe. In effect they promulgated the Civil War to destroy America and have worked to do so in collaboration with Eurasia for 250 years.

Eurasia’s loathsomeness toward America is consistent with America attempting to buy its respect over six decades to the tune of $40 Trillion. It was $284 Billion (1/4 of a Trillion) in 1960. You tell me who’s fooling who?

This is not an indictment of my Boomer generation from which 8% or (6.4M) took the bait with a cultural bullhorn that America sucks, but an indictment of the “greatest generation’s” peers who themselves were antagonists working against America during WWII and advantaged themselves. That’s loathsomeness, hate for being, hate of responsibility of home.

Now we ask, where is all the hate coming from.

Dennis Sullivan's avatar

To Elwood: I read both of your replies. You have an excllent grasp of history and human behavior. I was in that late 60s Full Metal Jacket USMC (the arrival at Parris Island has to be experienced to understand the shock ). We never hear it said that many of us served after learning about Chairman Mao's murdering millions by starvation or outright killing with weapons to include hundreds of thousands of cases of torture.

I never thought that millions of our youth especially these feminists could so easily be brainwashed.

Like millions in the USA I realize our Congress is an utterly corrupt organization composed of hundreds of self serving sociopaths.

It is true that a very large percentage of doctors are self serving and seem to act with complete dishonesty-witness Covid 19. If a cure for most cancers is found (which I doubt because cancer is a multibillion dollar cash cow) it would bankrupt most people.

I don't belong to a political party.but I do vote.

I have a big interest in UFOs, Aliens, alternative history (to include Mauro Biglio's literal interpretations of the Old Testament). etcetera, so it would not shock me if David Icke's belief that many leaders in the world are "reptilians" is true. This is how disgusting our world is. But I guess it has always been disgusting .

It is still hard to understand that probably 50 % of any population are so easily brainwashed. Can people be this stupid ?

I subscribe to many Substacks, You Tubes, etcetera because I learned in my 20s that the mainstream media are liars and only concerned about bringing in big paychecks.

I did get peace of mind watching (DVD) The Last Of The Mohicans extended version. The USA occasionally makes a good movie. We all need peace of mind.

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

The decision to terminate wasn't necessarily voluntary or ethical.

If it were, BioNTech would have terminated the trial once it had already crossed their own prespecified futility boundary in October 2025.

That they continued the trial for months beyond that boundary, despite the deaths, doesn't suggest "ethical fortitude" to me.

Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

If there was any "ethical fortitude", this poison would never have been injected into humans.

Karen Bracken's avatar

The results must have been so bad they could not be hidden or believe me if they could hide the results they would have.

Lori's avatar

but some people already died in the trial so.....

Elaine's avatar

But, our great FDA and CDC approved more mRNA jabs by Moderna for the flu and telling the public to make sure they and their children get the mRNA Covid Boosters starting this fall! Who are these people approving these kill shots@HHS? Hmmmm @SecKennedy? Stop the Shots!!

Steve. S's avatar

People would have to be crazy to get mRNA flu shots!

Richard D's avatar

Most people don't realize that the authorities they trust are de facto criminals. Dr. Fauci, for example, is a medical doctor and was head of a health-related government agency.

Sarena L. McLean, MSc's avatar

I was in a Town Hall meeting a couple of months ago with John Beaudin, Sr. and he had the best line: "our enemies picked our heros". We were discussing the adverse outcomes specifically regading renal failure from the responses to COVID-19. His line was poignant.

Steve. S's avatar

Yes. Actually some are lunatics.

Marlene Vejrich's avatar

Unfortunately most people listen to the media n still don't know the truth of people died n still dying!

Walter  Tres' Weis III's avatar

Was in pharmacy yesterday and the pharmacist were talking about how many people have been dieing recently and I said it was the SPIKE PROTEIN from the mRNA shot.. they hadn't heard of spike Protein dangers... I asked Google about Japan 22million Study excess deaths concentrated in Vaccinated and it said there was not a Study after I just listened to them talking about it on Gettr.. I can't forward from Gettr to FB so I was going to post from Internet.. that happens 9 Out of 10 times

Lori's avatar

How could pharmacy staff have no clue about spike protein? Are they stupid or don't they read anything.

David Rinker's avatar

Brain infected in med school, and finished off by the Spike Protein crossing their Blood Brain Barrier.

Perry Simms's avatar

Just following orders™

Perry Simms's avatar

What do you mean by this?

ArnoldF's avatar

Pharmekia. This is occult and sorcery.

clem h fandango's avatar

Pharmacist or pharmacy techs? Big difference. I knew a girl addicted to opiates who was a complete moron who got hired as a pharmacy tech at a CVS. Not long after, I went to pick up insulin for my cat at a Walgreens and the tech was wearing cargo shorts and a tshirt and spoke just like Jeff Spicoli.

Terrifying...

Dennis Sullivan's avatar

In February 2020 I read the Pradhan Report from India. That clinched it for me that the virus was made in a lab. Pradhan was forced to retract his very scientific paper.

nancy roberts's avatar

Kids, still? 🤦‍♀️ WTH? 😣

Perry Simms's avatar

Both of those are unconstitutional, henceforce un-lawful organizations. See the 30 enumerated powers of the constitution.

A Walter's avatar

I didn’t know an “alarming mortality signal” was still considered a reason to terminate a trial. We’ve learned it’s no longer a reason to stop a “vaccine” already on the market.

Eccentrik's avatar

at what point will the general public ask themselves: "are they intentionally trying to kill us"?

Perry Simms's avatar

FIGURE OUT THE *THEY* AND *US* FIRST

Eccentrik's avatar

Gates, Turner, Rockefellers, Sanger, Kissinger, and other notable Malthusians - to name some over time.

I DO NOT CONSENT's avatar

Ah, the psychological double-cross. It’s cancelled to create the false notion of ‘quality control’; “the system works and found the problem which makes this mRNA dangerous and next time we’ll get it right and make absolutely sure you get the SAFE mRNA”. So then it’s brought back a few months later and the terminally foolish believe that it’s now been given a full-integrity green-light and the reassurance is supposedly gold? Classy! But really, why have trials anymore? Do we have trials for the aerosolized poison or poisoned food? Let’s go ‘full consent’ and tell everyone “we’re injecting you with poison”, then we can finally dispense with the theatrical performance associated with illusionary ‘health care’. I’m still trying to figure out what the pitch for an anti-cancer ‘vaccine’ with a strong cancer risk is going to be. Perhaps, they’ll give some ‘high-profile’ individuals the ‘real’ cure in injectable form, then wait for the applause and flip it back to the poison for everyone else? Either way, the trusting have to have consumed a huge excess of fluoride to be this stupid, at this point. If this is nothing more than an intelligence test, an unbelievable percentage of the population is failing as the sheep are so easily herded into the den of wolves.

Perry Simms's avatar

I haven't seen (somebody please link if you have it) any research that shows moderna has solved the problem of malformed LNPs, and reactivity after payload deployment. How can that method be made tolerable? There's a host of problems that need careful research. I don't see the institutional framework honest enough to tackle that problem until a lot of people get jailed and punished for what was done.

I DO NOT CONSENT's avatar

The real problem here is that nothing is flawed. The ‘vaccine’/gene therapy, ‘call-it-what-you-will’, is working flawlessly. Biologists like Mike Yeadon know what weaponized biologics look like and the design of these injectables are very precisely engineered with exacting purpose. The falsehoods are that the product was rushed, mistakes were made by well-intentioned (yet admittedly unaccountable) people who simply didn’t test or refine a supposedly protective/curative product, which is instead causing maladies, malignancies and mortalities. The trick was to engineer a biological hornet’s nest of malevolence which provided just enough plausible deniability to serve a population willing to tightly grip on to the dying notion of a system designed to serve their own health and best interests. This is the biggest lie. It was never designed as such. It was designed to give people an illusion of care and curing, while at-most it managed/manages symptoms for profit. Nothing will be ‘corrected’ because the product is working exactly as expected. Those who engineered the product, and those who protect it and administered it are all protected until they have to be sacrificed ‘for the greater good’. While the product remains on the market and offered in alternative iterations, it remains under protection. The biological design is also protected for future use, and this is why only individuals will be sacrificed and removed, never the product - working flawlessly as it is. This is the only conclusion you can arrive at once you know what a piece of engineering looks like to an engineer.

Lori's avatar

This all gets more disgusting by the day.

Perry Simms's avatar

Well Bible wisely warns to be wary of sorcerors offering potions and pharmakea. Just as valid now as then.

The potential for genetic therapy remains huge though. Just a field flooded with shysters, as everything else.

pete's avatar

IMAGINE MY SHOCK !

Carol Haas's avatar

What about the tests that have not yet been done on the already approved mRNA flu shot and the covid XFG shots? Let's terminate all of them and ban the mRNA platform!

Edgar's avatar

Another wake up call for everyone who hasn’t gotten the obvious danger of all mRNA “vaccines”.

Perry Simms's avatar

There are a lot of potentially life-saving therapies that this system seems unable to research honestly; because we dont seem able to even prosecute those creating biowarfare agents against us.

Dennis Sullivan's avatar

I read Francis Boyle's book on biowarfare agents with its emphasis on vaccines. Lab made agents include Ebola, Marburg, and many others. Boyle died in the past year or so. He had honesty. Of course the money people paid no attention nor did our politicians.

Michael cox's avatar

Why would anyone create a bio warfare agents to kill you? That assumption pretends that someone cares whether you live or die. And honestly, nobody gives a shit if you don't wake up tomorrow. Nobody cares what happens to you and nobody, least of all a major corporation, cares what you do.

Perry Simms's avatar

Are you agreeing with my point then? Because I don’t see any disagreement here.

Michael cox's avatar

I'm calling you a conspiracy theory nut job. Nobody is creating bio warfare agents because they don't give a shit.

Perry Simms's avatar

But we have all the evidence that they DID create them. Oh well. Take your booster!

Michael cox's avatar

No you don't have all the evidence. What you have is a bunch of Internet conspiracy theories. It's just made up junk. But it's a free country so go ahead and believe the junk

Walter  Tres' Weis III's avatar

Me meanwhile I ask Google about Japan 22million excess deaths concentrated in Vaccinated and they said there wasn't a Study after I just watched them discussing the Study... Until the Truth is allowed to be Spoken they will continue to Kill us Off.. Went to the Pharmacy yesterday and they were talking about how many people have been dieing.. I said it's the SPIKE PROTEIN from the mRNA shot. They hadn't heard anything about the spike Protein dangers... THAT was truly Frightening

Steve. S's avatar

People living under a rock.

Perry Simms's avatar

You could have looked this up yourself walter: 22 million? Japan pop ~125 million. Raw deaths 2020 (baseline, pre-jab) 11300, 2021: 11800 (+500), 2022 (+jab): 12900 (+1100), 2023: 12300 (+500), 2024: 12400 (+600), 2025: 12600 (+800). Thats 500+1100+500+600+800 = 3500 excess all-cause deaths over the 2020 baseline. Numbers are from statbase.org, similar to others I can find. Now a +10% jump in all-cause mortality is a massive signal and indicts the gene-jabs, but you are innumerate to claim 22 million.

nancy roberts's avatar

At least they could not find a loophole big enough to push this one through also.

Ryn's avatar

Did I read this correctly! 😮

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Your emoji suggests you did.

Ryn's avatar

I know I did, much to my surprise! Now if they would only cancel the entire mRNA platform!

Rachel Girshick's avatar

END THE PREP ACT NOW!!!

THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE.

THESE MONSTERS WILL NOT STOP UNTIL IT HITS THEIR BOTTOM LINE.

Michelle Rabin Ph. D.'s avatar

How do we prevent this from happening again? When the October conclusions were reached, the company chose to continue with the trial. Did the patients received informed consent after that analysis? They should have been given an option to op-out given that new conclusion.

Steve. S's avatar

It would be interesting to see exactly what went wrong. Whether something already observed in the covid mRNA jabs has been observed again.

Unjabbed Mick's avatar

Thanks Denis!

Unsurprising, as many of us already realise these relatively new mRNA jabs include various illness inducing materials like SV40. So much so, that we wonder if it's deliberate genocide by the likes of corrupt Pfizer, Moderna, etc??

Lies, corruption and manipulation of Health Stats by Big Pharma, to promote even more DEADLY injections (called vaccines). We Proud Conspiracy Theorists call it pre-meditated Murder.

In 2020 onwards, all Flu disappeared from view and surprisingly and coincidentally were all replaced with Covid cases (including Flu/Pneumonia DEATHS). These were pretend 'Covid Deaths'.

Some of us realised early on, that the Scamdemic and the pretend (but Dangerous) 'injectable Cure' was too coincidental to be realistic. Then the 'vax' recipients started to drop like flies with heart issues (and seemingly myocarditis became an everyday expression).

Young fit sportsmen were getting heart problems during excessive strenuous workouts or during football matches.

Then Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Astra-Zeneca, etc, all admitted that post 'vax' heart issues occurred, but were "rare". This farce, along with a considerable amount of bribery, convinced governments to minimise or ignore "vaccine side effects". Most of the population chose to 'trust' the corrupt and mercenary politicians as well as the evil murdering Big Pharma giants, who were in it for PROFIT. No consideration of recipients wellbeing were acknowledged.

Then we leaned that old fashioned, somewhat SAFE 'VACCINES' were replaced with the depopulating mRNA formulation and lo and behold, the dictionary description of 'VACCINE had to be altered to accommodate the mRNA Death Shots.

So, here we are, 6 years since the launch of Covid, with up to 80% of the world believing the deadly Plan. Those of us who suspected skulduggery were vilified and side-lined for spreading 'mis-information', when we tried to save those who trusted 'the System.

Now, Big Pharma want us to forget the Covid farce and associated Vax Plans, so they can launch the next Scamdemic to destroy even more of the population with more deadly mRNA injections.

Perhaps many have now come to their senses and suspect what the few believed to be the Plan.

Unjabbed Mick. (UK Patriot)

Dennis Sullivan's avatar

I know of some 10 males who went to a cardiologist for various complaints. None of the cardiologists included the Covid vaccine in the differential diagnosis.

Unjabbed Mick's avatar

They're not allowed to speak against 'the narrative' for fear of expulsion.

Example; We have a neighbour who is (was) a Dentist. His Wife is a legal 'Solicitor'. After his first jab, he had some issues with speaking. He improved somewhat and we visited them socially. During my conversation with him, he tried to tell me what he did with his time - now he had retired. One task was to "collect the things chickens produce". He couldn't remember the word 'EGGS'.

His Wife has a relative who is a surgeon. All medics stick together regarding the denial of 'vax injuries'. He told her "He probably caught Covid at the same time as catching the Flu".

Absolute nonsense coming from a highly qualified surgeon who must realise the reality of vax damage and vax related deaths, but is not allowed to say so.

But, because they are friends, we avoided suggesting his injury was probably vax related.

Several months have passed and we haven't seen either of them, but it's concerning to discover that his Porsche is never seen outside his garage. Our assumption is that he is advised t no longer drive any motor vehicle.

Sad but that's how we have to look upon the vax injured and their equally submissive and compliant relatives who will not admit the folly of their irreversible situation.

Unjabbed Mick (We live longer because we are proud Conspiracy Theorists.)

Dennis Sullivan's avatar

Thanks for the story Mick. You put it perfectly and did the right thing by not bringing up what caused his problems. I do the same thing. I don't even bring up the subject of Covid. It might be sort of like throwing salt in an open wound. It is pretty interesting how the mind can block or put up a defense when you know you were led by hysteria (from the media or familt members).

I brought up the cardiologist thing. Most cardiologists have to know that the vaccine should be in the differential. They have multiple reasons for not bringing Covid up. A practical reason is that they don't want the backlash from the patient and they don't want to have the patient disliking them. The medical societies would also go against the cardiologist.

I wonder where the cardiologist went.

Unjabbed Mick's avatar

Unfortunately for others Dennis, I'm very vocal about all things 'covid', Fauci, Pfizer, Moderna, mRNA deadly injections called 'vaccines'. I even demonstrate my views when in public. Two days ago I had to do some grocery shopping and wore one of several tee-shirts with various messages showing what we were not allowed to talk about back in the early Covid and Vax days.

My bright yellow tee-shirt had "Covid, made in China for profit" printed on the front and "Experimental jabs - No thanks" on the back. I'd forgotten that I had that shirt on and an elderly lady came towards me and stopped looked me in the eyes for a few seconds. Enough to make me feel that one of us should say something. I broke the ice by saying "Hello, how are you". She replied "I love the messages on your tee-shirt". She smiled and walked off.

That is just one example of why we should shout out our concerns and beliefs. Covid and the pretend 'cures' called 'vaccines' were just the beginning of the Great Reset where the corrupt system and evil Elites declared war on us.

They've tried a few times since to launch the next Scamdemic, but we are a growing army of dissenters who know their game and will not fall for it to the same degree as last time. Apparently, around 75% of the planet accepted the Death Shot, but next time they'll be lucky to convince 50%. Still too many lemmings awaiting the Cull by poisonous injection, and that's why I believe we should do everything in out power to usurp those who want to rid the planet of 'Useless Eaters', as we are known.

Each to his own, but I thought I'd give you my thoughts on, what must be, the greatest travesty the world has ever experienced.

Pre-meditated Mass Murder.

N.B. I also wore the same tee-shirt while undergoing two recent operations - A hip replacement and a hernia repair. The medical team agreed to sign my letter denying any mRNA or Covid/Flu related jabs while I was sedated. To the best of my knowledge, both ops went perfectly. I was also assured that my letter was added to my medical file.

Thanks for your views! Unjabbed Mick (We live longer).