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Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

Pitting “2000 kids died” against “10 kids died after the vaccine” is a rhetorical trick — it plays fear against fear and distracts from the real conversation. Instead of weaponizing numbers, we should be talking about context: who is actually at risk, how immunity develops, and what tools we have for treatment. Natural exposure always produces broader immune memory, which contributes to long-term population-level immunity (herd immunity), a real benefit. And effective early treatments can reduce the chance of severe outcomes when they do occur. Fear should never drive policy or personal decisions. Unfortunately, that’s the world we live in until more of us become educated on how the immune system works, and how injecting antigens (or the message to make them) can dysregulate immunity.

Carl Keil's avatar

Folks who live on social media are unlikely to become educated as the media itself protects them from the truth.

Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

Very inciteful. People who live inside social-media ecosystems often aren’t exposed to real debate or full information — not because they’re unintelligent, but because the platforms themselves filter what they see. Algorithms serve them with what keeps them engaged, not what helps them understand. When the feed becomes the teacher, people can feel “educated” while actually being shielded from inconvenient facts. That’s why genuine learning requires stepping outside the algorithm and looking at evidence directly, not just consuming what social media decides to show.

TheWitness's avatar

Such a tragedy that they let this go on as long as it has. I follow Mark Crispin Millers "Died Suddenly" page, and all I can say is that it's worse than you can imagine for millions and millions.

We did not take the jabs here. It helps that I'm OCD and consumed so much data before being confronted with the mandates. We were like "fire us then". We did Religious Exemptions for the most part in my family and they worked. I'm certain to this day that God was talking to me during the COVID years keeping me centered.

Des Fleurs's avatar

Media are trying to create the narrative, “Too bad 10 kids died. So many more were saved!” Please point out that not only is their reported number of child COVID deaths inflated, but also 1) the vaccines do not prevent transmission, and 2) 6 or more studies now confirm that the more boosters you have, the more often you have COVID. So taking the shots only increases, if anything, your risk from the virus. They do not ‘save’ nor protect.

David Resnick's avatar

This is exactly the kind of first class reporting we need. Thank you for giving me this information so clearly.

john doss's avatar

I also remember that there was an increase in Covid deaths after "vaccination" (vaccination induced Covid death?). This makes sense, you give someone the "vaccine" when they already have an infection, leading to more stress on the immune system. This happened after the first shot and second shots. Yet, these people were not consider vaccinated until two weeks after the second vaccination. So a child could have gotten both shots and then died ten days later and have been considered unvaccinated. I don't know if the first study, or the CBS analysis took this into effect.

sandy's avatar
Dec 7Edited

Important to keep reminding people that individuals were not counted as vaccinated until 2 weeks after their most recent shots.

Sharon's avatar

Back in “the day,” the hospitals had the PCR test cranked up so high when testing for CoVID-19 that they would get a ping on any bit of viral flotsam and jetsam. And they knew exactly what they were $doing$.

Inisfad's avatar

There Is a reason why no one other than older people who are in the habit of trusting MSM, listen to CBS or any other of these stations anymore. Let them wallow in their misinformation….Biden was a great president, Kamala was going to win 2024, etc. They’re just propaganda outlets, letting us know what the ‘powers that be’ want us to believe….even though it’s misinformation

sandy's avatar
Dec 7Edited

Important to keep reminding people that individuals were not counted as vaccinated until 2 weeks after their most recent shots.

Mark Brody's avatar

I believe the estimate of 150-400 child deaths from COVID-19 is likely to be too high, as these children still could not be proven to have died FROM COVID-19 as much as WITH COVID-19. No virus has ever been isolated from any COVID infected patient, child or adult. I have little use for the excuses of how difficult a virus is to isolate. In Plato's cave, the shadows on the wall in human form could be from real people, 2-D cutouts in human form, puppets, or other simulations of humans that created a similar shadow. Until you nab the actual human creating the shadow, you are still guessing at what is causing it.

Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

It is the immune response that is deadly by causing loss of tissue on epithelial or endothelial linings. Epithelial damage in the lungs affects oxygen exchange, allows fluids to enter alveoli that shouldn't be there, and is a setup for secondary bacterial infections. Endothelial damage results in vascular leaks, blockages, clotting, and myocarditis, all of which can be deadly. It's not the invading entity, whether you believe in them or not, that does this. It's the dysregulated immune response that clearly does not happen to everyone exposed.

Randall Stoehr's avatar

The invaders overwhelm the old and some of our young.

That percentage is highly against the old who have worn out immune systems.

The young offer our Humanity entire survival as they contract and program theirs.

If there was no natural immune system we may all be a Zombie sick planet.

But I too.....hate being lied to by some salaried actress. Welcome to the real World

Mark Brody's avatar

Necrosis of epithelial or endothelial cells may be caused by many things. Viruses are one. Airborn toxins are another. Electromagnetic radiation is a third. It is important to distinguish the cause of necrosis of cells, and not to make assumptions about what is causing it. I am open to hearing all the evidence supporting various etiologic factors. So far, it has been difficult to establish a clear cause of the necrosis. I believe you are correct in ascribing much of the phenomenologic harm to the immune reaction that ensues from the necrosis. Hence the value of inhaled steroids in pneumonitis and pneumonia.

Kurt's avatar

Bari Weiss needs to clean house or get captured by the MSM lackeys and lose any reputation for independence, critical thinking or intelligent thought.

Lauren Ayers's avatar

What will it take for our fellow Americans to realize that they were duped by incredibly skilled con artists into making huge public health mistakes?

At this stage, “The deep state tricked us” is about the only face-saving exit for pro-vax people to explain themselves.

For lack of due diligence, these well-meaning people are painting themselves deeper into a corner. They will just end up looking like the Mistake Keepers in history books who believed “Women are too emotional to vote” or “Colored people like Jim Crow” or the “Divine Right of Kings.”

How can we convince them that they can be proud of shaking off the lies they once pedaled? And, better late than never, that they can demonstrate what REAL scientists do when their hypothesis is wrong, i.e. correct their mistakes?

It’s typical of the New World Order to use fear as the method for goading people to accept the status quo – “We need these vaccines to be healthy!”

As H.L. Mencken explains:

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace in a continual state of alarm (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing them with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Here is some advice about mistakes, in case anyone wants to admit theirs:

1. Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.

~ Rita Mae Brown, Alma Mater

2. Don’t cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.

~ Aubrey De Graf

3. If a mistake is not a stepping stone, it is a mistake.

~ Eli Siegel

4. Learn from the mistakes of others, because you can’t live long enough to make them all yourself.

~ Anonymous

5. When you repeat a mistake, it is not a mistake anymore. It is a decision.

~ Paulo Coelho

6. Mistakes are the portals of discovery.

~ James Joyce

Why does anyone stick to a mistake? One theory is that humans crave internal consistency, so we must justify making the mistake in the first place by repeating it over and over. The only escape from this Justification Loop is to “fess up.” Like the confession booth or the 5th (and also 10th) step in the famous AA 12 Steps, we humans must admit our fallibility in order to move on.

Except for officials who lied, it’s no big deal to admit a mistake– “to err is human” – yet so many people are too afraid or too embarrassed to be that honest.

A more grim analysis is that there are hidden forces intent on killing off all life on Earth. Most people can’t believe in such evil and call that a crazy conspiracy theory. But it’s unlikely that the profit motive is the sole cause of our nation going downhill for the past 5 or 6 decades.

James Corbett says that we are in emmeshed in 5th generation warfare that most people can’t see. Unlike 1st generation warfare (ancient history), 2nd gen warfare (the Civil War), 3rd gen warfare (WWI) and 4th gen warfare (with civilians at the center, as in WWII to Ukraine and Gaza), today's war is happening in EVERY aspect of life:

● Information (advertising, propaganda, media censorship)

● Neurology (“drugs, bugs, toxins, and devices”)

● Biology (mRNA, GMO, lab-grown food)

● Economics (control of currency, resources, employment, movement)

See the video at: https://rumble.com/v59tlhx-your-guide-to-5th-generation-warfare.-wake-up-you-are-at-war-with-corporate.html

Or read the transcript at: https://corbettreport.com/5thgen/

Remember, Trend Is Not Destiny. We outnumber the World Wreckers and we still have enough shreds of our democratic republic to stop them.

Fred's avatar

Many so-called Covid deaths were not. Wish I had saved the directive that stated in so many words, don’t test; if the patient has symptoms of Covid, that is sufficient. I’d bet serious money that many (all?) of the deaths from the shots were dx as “Covid.” Remember that there was no compensation for shot deaths.

Randall Stoehr's avatar

You can always rely on CBS TV....For all your "Corporation Bull Shit"!

Aptly named call sign eh?

CBS....We now resume our regularly scheduled programing! (that's the hypnosis part)

DUANE HAYES's avatar

Documented in Ed Dowd's book, "Cause Unknown" are hundreds of children who died from the Covid vaccine

David Kukkee's avatar

Celine Grounder says “there is no definitive evidence that COVID-19 vaccines cause death but what we do know is that 2000 American children died from SARS-CoV-2 infection and that’s what we need to guard against.” HAS SHE BEEN LIVING IN A CLOSET?

My take: Many children have been Covid "vaccinated". Many "vaccinated" children died from Covid. Covid "vaccine hurts" children.

2,000 children died from Covid. Many children were "vaccinated" against Covid. Covid "vaccines" have negative efficacy. "Vaccinating" children therefore cannot save children. Covid "vaccination" causes children to die from Covid infection. (Many don't die right away... but they will).

Grounder is clearly a liar and a shill... an "expert" to be sure. That's how we know she cannot be trusted. She manipulates words for a living. I see B.S. is happening on CBS... STILL, AS ALWAYS.

Fred's avatar

RIP Grant Wahl!

Do you remember her husband who died a horrific death from a ruptured aneurysm? She went from being a practicing physician to a desk job and spokesperson against vax disinformation.

- [ ] Pfizer BioNTech Covid Vaccine and Aortic aneurysm rupture, a phase IV clinical study of CDC and FDA data - eHealthMe

- [ ] https://www.ehealthme.com/vs/pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine/aortic-aneurysm-rupture/

- [ ] SARS-CoV-2 spike protein induces endothelial inflammation via ACE2 independently of viral replication | Scientific Reports

- [ ] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41115-3

- [ ] Intracranial aneurysm rupture within three days after receiving mRNA anti-COVID-19 vaccination: Three case reports - PubMed

- [ ] All three cases developed SAH within 3 days (range, 0-3 days) of the 1st or 2nd dose of BNT162b2 mRNA shot.

- [ ] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35509565/

- [ ] Rupture of Vertebral Artery Dissecting Aneurysm after mRNA Anti-COVID-19 Vaccination: A Report of Two Cases - PubMed “The accumulation of more cases and further study are warranted to clarify the relationship between COVID-19 mRNA … and ruptured intracranial dissecting aneurysms.”

- [ ] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35646499/

- [ ] Multisystem Endothelial Inflammation: A Key Driver of Adverse Events Following mRNA-Containing COVID-19 Vaccines

- [ ] https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/13/8/855

- [ ] Endothelial inflammation