I thought Patel said that they caught the guy!! Now Candace is talking about a suspicious airplane that departed after the shooting and came back half n hour later. Why all these different versions??? That is what we pay with our taxes?? We know what there is inside a cave in Afghanistan and we don’t know how to take care of our backyard. It’s ridiculous!!!
I saw an image earlier today showing at least 5 security guys right around the tent. . . apparently, no one looked on the roofs or used a simple drone. . . This and Trump's attempt could have been averted so easily.
I assume Kirk's security WAS private security . . . SO ??
But Charlie Kirk HAD his own private security and they didn’t secure it either. I heard yesterday that he had been told awhile ago that he needed to beef up his security because of all the threats he received.
There are a number of reports stating that the bullet was fired from 200 yards, which is 900 feet. ...142 yards is 426 feet. Whatsoever, firing one fatal bullet takes a trained hitman to do it. It had to have been a professional job. I have my ideas why there are so many crazies in the world. It wasn't this way over 70 years ago. The Food Industry, Medical Industry, Alcohol Industry, Chemical Industry. Pesticide Industry, etc. have led the people to this point. American's ability to think clearly has been compromised by the lowering of the IQ. Many people have lost the ability to think for themselves and can be easily influenced by very subversive elements.
Your belief that it would take a professional assassin to make that shot is completely erroneous. Any mediocre deer hunter could easily make the shot from a prone position with a “dead rest”.
True. And he could have been aiming for his head too, either way, head or carotid was instant death. He bled out. Very sad day for America and yes, once again in open air forums, they are NOT doing proper surveillance of the surroundings.
And with a rifle round and where it struck it probably shattered at least 3 cervical vertebrae and shredded his spinal cord. It looked line he was dead in under 2 seconds and would have bled out in 15 or 30 tops.
Oh man. So many people continue to parrot that it took a pro shooter or sniper. They don’t know shit about firearms. A Texas high school kid can bring down a deer at double the distance as the Utah shot.
What about the tent enplacement, the position on roof. The planning, the total ability for the person to move around. Scanning the setup in advance. Too professional.
No, 150, or 200 yards is easy to do with a rifle. Anybody could do that with an afternoon of practice, even on iron sights.
The hard part would be the nerves, but these demonic people are confident they won't be stopped, and believe that they're doing the right and moral thing, so that mitigates a good part of that complication.
200 yards is 600 feet (math error). Also, a 30.06 pretty much shoots flat to that distance, and 150 yards is not an unusual shooting distance for deer hunters (at least in the American West where you can often clearly see deer that far away).
My feeling is that it was Mossad.. It was a political hit job. The 2 guys arrested I feel were just ditractions so the killer could get away. The old man and the other guy were both jewish. This is just my thoughts.. It is a sad day for our Country. Blessings to all!!
Also, he was wearing a bullet proof vest. Hence the neck shot!! The killer must have known this. A chest shot would have been a bigger target than his neck.. just my thoughts..
I don't understand not positioning 1 or 2 people on that roof. An amateur with very basic training could make that shot. It's just so senseless, given all the assassinations and attempted ones using rifles from some distance.
Quite a few “strange” occurrences leads me to think the univ. and their kids were ill prepared. Where was the EMTs truck or ambulance, usually sitting nearby large events? How could kids video the Gunman in position on the roof AND NOT tell security? No sign of drones being flown, no lessons learned from Butler PA assassination attempt? Apparently many in Orem UT were living in a fantasy…learning too late.
We live in a world where good versus evil are in constant conflict. Far too often we have seen people being killed simply because they don’t feel the way another person does. This is tragic and it is unacceptable. Violence is not the answer to differences of opinion and belief. This has to stop! We must choose peace over hatred, unity over division, and respect over violence. We all have the right to live, speak, and believe without fear. To have a better future we must stand together against evil and commit ourselves to the good. Our justice system must hold criminals accountable.
WE do choose peace and non-violence. THEY do not. THEIR attitudes are might makes right and the ends justify the means. And they take advantage of our good natures to insist on mercy and forgiveness and understanding when they commit heinous acts, pleading that they are only human and mistakes were made and they are disadvantaged or oppressed or whatever. And ICE and the police are oppressors. And so on and so forth. WE have to stop buying into their baleful narratives when they are caught and their lies when they are in the planning or acting stages.
Thank you for stating the obvious, Nina, which infuriatingly so many don't get. What's with the preaching peace and understanding? We already believe in that, they don't and never will. It's so pointless. As if the scum on the left might actually listen? I don't think so.
I can't believe my luck to have lived in the good times. The collapse is, as always, self-inflicted. My God, how does anybody vote Democrat? Everything they say and do is a horror show. No responses needed to point out the big problems with the Republicans, and that the uniparty is a real thing. That's just as obvious as that the Democrats are so, so much worse.
If he's caught, which is not certain, you can be sure a blue state police force or a Democrat FBI would be sure it was necessary to kill him rather than take him into custody where he might spill some beans. It'll be interesting to see how the apprehension goes down if there is one. It's true - dead men tell no tales.
I was reading that that particular roof was fairly easy to access from the ground at at least one section of the building. Just one more reason to have that particular roof secure. Why wasn't it? Who's job was it?
Sad today, John Leake, thinking of the failures out there, to protect life. Charlie Kirk was a good man with a positive message, hated by negative people with power who lacking a conscience, cannot bear the truth to be told. Those leaping on the thresholds joyfully in ghoulish gladness over the murder of Charlie Kirk have been invited to be registered with the State Department, for revocation of visa and visitor privileges. Many academics are now guilty.
Look, this assassin was an amateur. Even the most Mid-wit transit cop would have a cheap drone flying to facilitate crowd control. They already have him tracked and are closing in as we speak… right… am I right…
I was thinking along the same lines. I saw on a Ted talk a while back a device that produced a hologram of the person. It might be safer for the speaker to stay behind closed doors nearby and place the holographic person on stage.
I thought Patel said that they caught the guy!! Now Candace is talking about a suspicious airplane that departed after the shooting and came back half n hour later. Why all these different versions??? That is what we pay with our taxes?? We know what there is inside a cave in Afghanistan and we don’t know how to take care of our backyard. It’s ridiculous!!!
Investigations take time. Most take much longer than one day.
I don't trust Patel as far as I can throw him.
I call him Trash Fromhell. Bondi is Bill Barr in Heels
You are watching to many crime shows on TV...
What the heck, doesn’t security know what a drone is?
They do have security there, I’m assuming.
I saw an image earlier today showing at least 5 security guys right around the tent. . . apparently, no one looked on the roofs or used a simple drone. . . This and Trump's attempt could have been averted so easily.
I assume Kirk's security WAS private security . . . SO ??
I heard that drones were not permitted to fly around there that day b/c VP Vance was scheduled to fly in to meet with Kirk.
That’s strange. Just a fly over of the roof top should have been authorized by the top brass.
But Charlie Kirk HAD his own private security and they didn’t secure it either. I heard yesterday that he had been told awhile ago that he needed to beef up his security because of all the threats he received.
There are a number of reports stating that the bullet was fired from 200 yards, which is 900 feet. ...142 yards is 426 feet. Whatsoever, firing one fatal bullet takes a trained hitman to do it. It had to have been a professional job. I have my ideas why there are so many crazies in the world. It wasn't this way over 70 years ago. The Food Industry, Medical Industry, Alcohol Industry, Chemical Industry. Pesticide Industry, etc. have led the people to this point. American's ability to think clearly has been compromised by the lowering of the IQ. Many people have lost the ability to think for themselves and can be easily influenced by very subversive elements.
Your belief that it would take a professional assassin to make that shot is completely erroneous. Any mediocre deer hunter could easily make the shot from a prone position with a “dead rest”.
True. And he could have been aiming for his head too, either way, head or carotid was instant death. He bled out. Very sad day for America and yes, once again in open air forums, they are NOT doing proper surveillance of the surroundings.
And with a rifle round and where it struck it probably shattered at least 3 cervical vertebrae and shredded his spinal cord. It looked line he was dead in under 2 seconds and would have bled out in 15 or 30 tops.
That's right. There was no way to save him Jim, he was assassinated instantly.
"Jim, He's Dead!" RIP Kirk spoke up for Truth and Freedom
Oh man. So many people continue to parrot that it took a pro shooter or sniper. They don’t know shit about firearms. A Texas high school kid can bring down a deer at double the distance as the Utah shot.
What about the tent enplacement, the position on roof. The planning, the total ability for the person to move around. Scanning the setup in advance. Too professional.
No, 150, or 200 yards is easy to do with a rifle. Anybody could do that with an afternoon of practice, even on iron sights.
The hard part would be the nerves, but these demonic people are confident they won't be stopped, and believe that they're doing the right and moral thing, so that mitigates a good part of that complication.
200 yards is 600 feet (math error). Also, a 30.06 pretty much shoots flat to that distance, and 150 yards is not an unusual shooting distance for deer hunters (at least in the American West where you can often clearly see deer that far away).
I goofed...200 years is 600 feet!
Agree. It was much further than the Butler distance.
The "globalists" strike again!
My feeling is that it was Mossad.. It was a political hit job. The 2 guys arrested I feel were just ditractions so the killer could get away. The old man and the other guy were both jewish. This is just my thoughts.. It is a sad day for our Country. Blessings to all!!
And I think you are really sick! Kirk was a big supporter of Israel.
Also, he was wearing a bullet proof vest. Hence the neck shot!! The killer must have known this. A chest shot would have been a bigger target than his neck.. just my thoughts..
And the motive for Mossad?
I don't understand not positioning 1 or 2 people on that roof. An amateur with very basic training could make that shot. It's just so senseless, given all the assassinations and attempted ones using rifles from some distance.
As a security-guy guest told Alex Jones today, you don't even need a counter sniper--just an observer with binocs and a cell phone or radio.
That's what I mean. It seems so simple.
really a no-brainer to simply cover roofs from perspective of a rifle shooter. . .
There is NO excuse here.
Unless you wanted it to happen.
Quite a few “strange” occurrences leads me to think the univ. and their kids were ill prepared. Where was the EMTs truck or ambulance, usually sitting nearby large events? How could kids video the Gunman in position on the roof AND NOT tell security? No sign of drones being flown, no lessons learned from Butler PA assassination attempt? Apparently many in Orem UT were living in a fantasy…learning too late.
It seems too many that should know better, don’t believe or understand just how evil people can be.
Universities simply don't prepare security for these events. They tell speakers the risks.
We live in a world where good versus evil are in constant conflict. Far too often we have seen people being killed simply because they don’t feel the way another person does. This is tragic and it is unacceptable. Violence is not the answer to differences of opinion and belief. This has to stop! We must choose peace over hatred, unity over division, and respect over violence. We all have the right to live, speak, and believe without fear. To have a better future we must stand together against evil and commit ourselves to the good. Our justice system must hold criminals accountable.
WE do choose peace and non-violence. THEY do not. THEIR attitudes are might makes right and the ends justify the means. And they take advantage of our good natures to insist on mercy and forgiveness and understanding when they commit heinous acts, pleading that they are only human and mistakes were made and they are disadvantaged or oppressed or whatever. And ICE and the police are oppressors. And so on and so forth. WE have to stop buying into their baleful narratives when they are caught and their lies when they are in the planning or acting stages.
Thank you for stating the obvious, Nina, which infuriatingly so many don't get. What's with the preaching peace and understanding? We already believe in that, they don't and never will. It's so pointless. As if the scum on the left might actually listen? I don't think so.
You are correct. And it is a tough place to be in, for those on the right, especially those who try to live by religious tenets.
I am sure the tagged suspect will be killed and the case closed. If Trump falls for that, the Republic is done.
The empire is already done, most people don't know it..
I can't believe my luck to have lived in the good times. The collapse is, as always, self-inflicted. My God, how does anybody vote Democrat? Everything they say and do is a horror show. No responses needed to point out the big problems with the Republicans, and that the uniparty is a real thing. That's just as obvious as that the Democrats are so, so much worse.
If he's caught, which is not certain, you can be sure a blue state police force or a Democrat FBI would be sure it was necessary to kill him rather than take him into custody where he might spill some beans. It'll be interesting to see how the apprehension goes down if there is one. It's true - dead men tell no tales.
I don't expect them to take him alive.
How the heck does someone gain easy access to the roof of a public building!? These doors are typically locked from both sides for obvious reasons.
Rubbermaid trolley, Cleaner uniform. You're invisible unless it is this cinema chain - https://youtu.be/4Xbp3KjgbTc?t=551
People know how to unlock doors.
I was reading that that particular roof was fairly easy to access from the ground at at least one section of the building. Just one more reason to have that particular roof secure. Why wasn't it? Who's job was it?
Sad today, John Leake, thinking of the failures out there, to protect life. Charlie Kirk was a good man with a positive message, hated by negative people with power who lacking a conscience, cannot bear the truth to be told. Those leaping on the thresholds joyfully in ghoulish gladness over the murder of Charlie Kirk have been invited to be registered with the State Department, for revocation of visa and visitor privileges. Many academics are now guilty.
.. so they have security cameras… unaccessible to the public, right… can’t be immobilized just by cutting a wire, right… we got him… right…
Look, this assassin was an amateur. Even the most Mid-wit transit cop would have a cheap drone flying to facilitate crowd control. They already have him tracked and are closing in as we speak… right… am I right…
Sniper behind Trump fires to the left, Trump grabs ear.
https://x.com/i/status/1812322360567255185
I was thinking along the same lines. I saw on a Ted talk a while back a device that produced a hologram of the person. It might be safer for the speaker to stay behind closed doors nearby and place the holographic person on stage.
Lots of holes in security yesterday inexcusable. Charlie might have trusted the wrong people