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lawrence greenberg's avatar

This is all too convenient - I don't buy it. Too simple and easy and fast, too many clues to be found, too much evidence just lying around. This smacks of a conspiracy using a patsy, and I do not buy it. Does anyone else feel the same way?

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Jessica's avatar

It’s definitely a staged psyop

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lawrence greenberg's avatar

It certainly seems so to me.

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Sisyphus's avatar

This whole thing; photo, identification, casings, found gun, suspect in custody.

Give me a break! Looks like a child's board game. 1.'Crime Identification 101'.

2. 'Patsy Perps'

3. 'False Flags'

4. 'Misdirection Techniques' (from magicians).

There's only one perp. REALLY⁉️

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Realist's avatar

That has crossed my mind.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

"We are apparently surrounded by weirdos in this country." The world has noticed this.

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Jacques Uze's avatar

Yes.

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Val Vadeboncoeur's avatar

John: We have video of the kid (right after the shooting) climbing off the roof and walking across the campus with NO rifle in his hands. That rifle and those cartridges were placed there by somebody else. So, we have a conspiracy of some kind already. As usual with these events, the whole official narrative stinks.

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

Where is the Video footage of him going on the roof?

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Val Vadeboncoeur's avatar

Yeah, I haven't seen that yet.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Whoever the shooter was, they were assisted by someone with no weapons standing up in the crowd, and claiming responsibility for the murder. This kind of distraction gives a sniper time to flee, freezing and confusing the response of police.

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Cia Parker's avatar

The allusion is to a popular Italian song in WWII, in which a girl asks the anti-Mussolini partisans to take her away with them, and to bury her on the mountain if she dies for liberty. You could listen to it on Youtube. Bella ciao. The line quoted, Bella, ciao, bella, ciao, bella, ciao, ciao, ciao, is the refrain. The song is a variant on an earlier, non-partisan, song, hauntingly beautiful.

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Cia Parker's avatar

Not my favorite version, but it has the verses of the partisan variant.

https://youtu.be/FW-9iaVnink?si=gID2A909spLk3kaz

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Nina's avatar

The song has also been covered more recently and is used a lot on reels for IG & TikTok

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Cia Parker's avatar

I told a friend this morning that I learned it when a Swiss friend Michel played it on the guitar and sang it. All Italians know it. (Sort of like Faccetta nera.) In 2020, I saw a video of an apartment complex in Milan on lockdown, and all the residents sang Bella ciao from their balconies or windows.

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Joe Kraimer's avatar

The shell casings remind me of the Saudi passport conveniently found on the street below World Trade Towers. Same playbook.

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Rachel's avatar

🏆 comment

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Judith M Brandon's avatar

I can't believe any of the sludge coming out about any of this anymore. These shootings from rooftops are so entirely preventable. This looks like a psyop to keep us engaged in fear and hatred.

I have learned to grieve loss without justice or the truth of the matter. Safe and effective is a platitude. Young male shooters do not operate by themselves.

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dsimonc's avatar

"Bella Ciao" is a communist partisan song from WWII

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Patriot Karen Cottey's avatar

It’s also Italian 😊

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Brandy's avatar

My first two questions are 1. is the shooter on medication (and what medication)? 2. Was someone online grooming him to do this (and who)? Being able to answer these two questions would tell us volumes about what has happened here.

RIP Charlie Kirk, a champion of ideas, free speech, civility, and faith.

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Brandy's avatar

I personally would guess that this is the most likely explanation for what has happened. But we may never find out the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65eziAD6ZXs&t=998s

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James Marzolf's avatar

If you watch the videos, he did not flee with the rifle. Watch is drop to the ground. No rifle. Yet it was found conveniently in the trees.

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Susie's avatar

Yes, how can that be? Very important point. Is it a rifle that can be broken down and carried in the backpack?

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Dave Joslin's avatar

Not weirdos- evil men.

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Александар Stojanov's avatar

Bella ciao is an Italian partisan song from WWII and the text goes like this (original text at the bottom):

"One morning I awakened,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

One morning I awakened

and I found the invader.

Oh partisan, carry me away,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

Oh partisan, carry me away,

for I feel death is near.

And if I die as a partisan,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

And if I die as a partisan,

then you must bury me.

Bury me up in the mountain,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

Bury me up in the mountain

under the shade of a beautiful flower.

And all those who shall pass,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

And all those who shall pass

Will tell me "what a beautiful flower."

This is the flower of the partisan,

oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao!

This is the flower of the partisan

who died for freedom"

Original Italian lyrics:

«Una mattina mi son svegliato,

oh bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

Una mattina mi son svegliato

e ho trovato l’invasor.

O partigiano, portami via,

o bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

O partigiano, portami via,

ché mi sento di morir.

E se io muoio da partigiano,

o bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

E se io muoio da partigiano,

tu mi devi seppellir.

E seppellire lassù in montagna,

o bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

E seppellire lassù in montagna

sotto l’ombra di un bel fior.

E le genti che passeranno

o bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

E le genti che passeranno

Ti diranno «Che bel fior!»

«È questo il fiore del partigiano»,

o bella, ciao! bella, ciao! bella, ciao, ciao, ciao!

«È questo il fiore del partigiano

morto per la libertà!»

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sifubernie's avatar

Gee, they find the fancy case with engravings but not a mention of the bullet matching the gun they found. Oh, sorry, I forgot this is a real reality movie.

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Gemma Insinna's avatar

It might have been an anti fascist WW2 song but was meant certainly for freedom! not what they have comandeered it to mean now.

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Don Bleyl's avatar

Weirdos? You are being far too kind.

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Will's avatar

REMINDS ME OF INTACT 9/11 PASSPORT+LH OSWALDS SHELLS AFTER JFK... ESPECIALLY NOW WE KNOW JFK X RAYS SHOW BOTH MILITARY AND CITIZEN BULLET FRAGMENTS ARE THERE(COULD BE EXHUMED TO PROVE 2 GUNMEN).

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Madeleine Love's avatar

So, there's inconsistencies between the photo data of the assassin and the account today.

1. They said he changed into his assassin clothes at the top of the building, yet the photo evidence had him wearing his clothes on the stairs on the way up.

2. There was video evidence of him walking down road S 800 W (in his assassin outfit) towards the university, quite a long way from the UVU.

3. They said he got the gun from a grassy area (I thought near the uni) but he already had the gun on his approach.

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Martha Jane Shoultz's avatar

I don't think this young man is a weirdo, but rather he is deeply disturbed, and as far as I know, no one is researching why this is happening to so many young people now. His family turned him in so it sounds like he had a good upbringing. Most likely something physical caused him to be vulnerable to radicalization, which is EVERYWHERE on the internet. Can we call for more research into the causes of brain disease, which is a common denominator in virtually all public violence, so that maybe we can help these people and prevent more violence against innocent people?

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Or he was given a few MK-ULTRA/MONARCH-type mind control sessions.

Kirk wasn't towing the (Banderite Fascist/CIA) line on Ukraine. And he'd recently started to develop some kind of conscience, or unsynchronized perspectives on the Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinians (having done speaking events with Anti-Zionist Jew Dave Smith, and Tucker Carlson). Apparently he'd reported back to his Zionist Billionaire backers that their preferred ideological position was untenable, and becoming massively unpopular with even Conservative youth. So there's more reason for the right to want to turn him into a martyr, than the left...but that's what we're being fed, apparently.

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