Correct that that are not so much fighting FOR the government who are defending them against the murdering sadistic foreign psychopaths who after their cowardly Pearl Harbor style sneak attack conducted under the cover of "negotiations" slaughtered 168+ schoolgirls in a deliberate precision-guided triple-tap missile strike on Day 1
They are fighting AGAINST that regime of American war criminals which they would be aware, because they are of higher mean IQ than Americans, has historically targeted civilians as when it carpet bombed North Korean civilian cities for 3 years and, according to an epidemiological study published in the Lancet in 2006 butchered up to nearly a million elderly, infants, children, women and other primarily civilian neighboring Iraqis between 2003 and 2006.
This John Leake post does not refer to the “Iranian people”; in fact, he even uses the U.S. military industrial complex-approved formulation of “Iranian regime.” You just would rather rage than read.
And… We can “thank” BO for empowering Iran with the pallets of cash President that helped them along this path to world terror leader… Get behind our President and support what it takes to win this thing quickly and we won’t have to endure the whiners moaning about the “quagmire” brought on by anti American cowards dragging us down at every political turn.
They get lucky and knock out an F-15 with a left over missile and suddenly their defenses have ratcheted up to an astronomical increase in Iran’s ability to keep the U.S. somehow at bay? Rubbish… Even a blind squirrel … blah blah blah.
Send what it takes to kick their teeth in and give the country back to the people and be done with them…
Believe The F-35 "incident" was close to a week ago and landed basically intact. Have not seen any credible evidence it was shot down. It is a highlly technical air frame and anything could have went wrong. The F-15 and now allegedly an A-10 Warthog have been shot down. If correct not bad for only 2 shot down out of about 13,500 sorties which is only a 99.985% success rate.
The F-35 is a single pilot (and single engined) aircraft. The aircraft that was lost is likely an F-15 which has a pilot and a weapons system/navigator operator. The latter is often the senior officer.
Believe The F-35 "incident" was close to a week ago and landed basically intact. Have not seen any credible evidence it was shot down. It is a highlly technical air frame and anything could have went wrong. The F-15 and now allegedly an A-10 Warthog have been shot down. If correct not bad for only 2 shot down out of about 13,500 sorties which is only a 99.985% success rate.
The Air Force has no interest in the A-10. The entire fleet including maintenance personnel should be transferred to the Marines. And another 150 should be built. The F-35 could be disabled with a single round in the sense that it would compromise its stealth properties. The F-35B is deployed on the Marine expeditionary vessels. It may be useful against other aircraft, but they can't get anywhere near a radar controlled 20mm cannon. Meaning ground support is not really an option. The A-10 has proven its robustness. It would seem to be an ideal purchase given the new priorities outlined by Hegseth last summer.
During the 1978/79 Iranian revolution, Khuzestan was one of the main flashpoints, as well as it being the front line of the 1980s Iraq-Iran war. United States would have to be insane if they decide to enter Iran from this region, they will be shredded.
Is it not remarkable that this Quagmire of one month has resulted in the downing of ONE allied aircraft?
That says it all, right there.
By the way, what does the F35 lifetime operational expenditure have to do with the Iranian GDP? Is it a case of "big number" outsizes another, unrelated "big number"? Or, does it reflect the relative paucity of the nation's wealth and make for the starkness of such a poor country having wicked anti-aircraft and ballistic missile capabilities that make a first world military stand wayyy back? Why would a benign, poor nation have such capacity?
An attempt at invasion, as opposed to a raid of some sort, is not yet in the offing since the U.S. ground troops entering the region are all light assault forces that, if put into action, will soon have to withdraw since there are no reinforcements behind them.
However, should an actual invasion be contemplated, an additional obstacle not listed here by John Leake is that the forces would not have the luxury of amassing over weeks and months in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia unmolested by the enemy, as they did in 1990-91 and 2002-03. Iran will be pouring missiles and drones on them the whole time, prior to any “incursion.”
John McCain was given the name songbird for a reason. He was no hero in a lot of peoples eyes including mine. As far as them fighting, it’s for freedom and against the regime.
It's a shame that the brain-trusts in DC decided to invade Iraq over, you remember, the WMD scam. Because Iraq was the counterweight to Iran.
But, they decided to invade, and the Freedom of Information Act produced documents showing that the same brilliant brain-trust wanted to go to Tehran after destroying Iraq.
But alas, the troops got bogged down in Iraq, mainly due to road bombs and other groups engaging in the fight, so the plans to invade Iran never happened.
Just imagine if the same hair-brained trust had not invaded Iraq and lied about WMD?
How many lives would have been saved, and how much money would not have been printed? And, we would still have Iraq doing the heavy lifting over Iran.
These ignorant Neocons, for some incomprehensible reason, decided to pull the tent pins in the Middle East and collapse the whole structure that evolved over decades.
That's exactly what the founders of America said we should avoid. These are the brain-trusts in DC. Their combined IQs don't exceed 100.
As seen in the Ukraine / Russia SMO, big arrow, armored thrusts are no longer possible in the ISR rich environment of the modern warfare. Drones, mines, missiles and artillery will do their work. Israel is experiencing this in Lebanon right now. So, given the US military is incapable of learning the lessons of the modern battlefield, it's highly likely they're going to try a big arrow armored assault through Khusestan. It is really the only logical route to Kharg. Iran however are not going to give the US time to assemble and concentrate their forces for the assault. They are going to be hit in their assembly zones.
Yes, indeed, let's compare the cost of a weapons system over its 94-year history to the annual GNP of our adversary and pretend we're doing analysis... What's next, comparing the number of NBA players to the number of refrigerator magnets in Buffalo?
We haven't found the plane yet either. We need to bomb it after the rescue. The Iranians are going to recover it and send it to Russia or China for the electronics. They probably already have an agreement with them for something like that.
The Iranian “people” are not fighting for the radical Muslim regime! Get your facts straight !!
Ridiculous statement..show me a country which has been sneak attacked where the population didn't rally around the Government...There isn't one....
Correct that that are not so much fighting FOR the government who are defending them against the murdering sadistic foreign psychopaths who after their cowardly Pearl Harbor style sneak attack conducted under the cover of "negotiations" slaughtered 168+ schoolgirls in a deliberate precision-guided triple-tap missile strike on Day 1
They are fighting AGAINST that regime of American war criminals which they would be aware, because they are of higher mean IQ than Americans, has historically targeted civilians as when it carpet bombed North Korean civilian cities for 3 years and, according to an epidemiological study published in the Lancet in 2006 butchered up to nearly a million elderly, infants, children, women and other primarily civilian neighboring Iraqis between 2003 and 2006.
Correct they despise The Islamic Revolutionary so called "Guardianship". Only about 5% support The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC).
This John Leake post does not refer to the “Iranian people”; in fact, he even uses the U.S. military industrial complex-approved formulation of “Iranian regime.” You just would rather rage than read.
If one has not visited Persia one should not speculate on Persian Pride.
And… We can “thank” BO for empowering Iran with the pallets of cash President that helped them along this path to world terror leader… Get behind our President and support what it takes to win this thing quickly and we won’t have to endure the whiners moaning about the “quagmire” brought on by anti American cowards dragging us down at every political turn.
They get lucky and knock out an F-15 with a left over missile and suddenly their defenses have ratcheted up to an astronomical increase in Iran’s ability to keep the U.S. somehow at bay? Rubbish… Even a blind squirrel … blah blah blah.
Send what it takes to kick their teeth in and give the country back to the people and be done with them…
Believe The F-35 "incident" was close to a week ago and landed basically intact. Have not seen any credible evidence it was shot down. It is a highlly technical air frame and anything could have went wrong. The F-15 and now allegedly an A-10 Warthog have been shot down. If correct not bad for only 2 shot down out of about 13,500 sorties which is only a 99.985% success rate.
The F-35 is a single pilot (and single engined) aircraft. The aircraft that was lost is likely an F-15 which has a pilot and a weapons system/navigator operator. The latter is often the senior officer.
Yep, that’s what I read. F-15. 2 seats.
Believe The F-35 "incident" was close to a week ago and landed basically intact. Have not seen any credible evidence it was shot down. It is a highlly technical air frame and anything could have went wrong. The F-15 and now allegedly an A-10 Warthog have been shot down. If correct not bad for only 2 shot down out of about 13,500 sorties which is only a 99.985% success rate.
The Air Force has no interest in the A-10. The entire fleet including maintenance personnel should be transferred to the Marines. And another 150 should be built. The F-35 could be disabled with a single round in the sense that it would compromise its stealth properties. The F-35B is deployed on the Marine expeditionary vessels. It may be useful against other aircraft, but they can't get anywhere near a radar controlled 20mm cannon. Meaning ground support is not really an option. The A-10 has proven its robustness. It would seem to be an ideal purchase given the new priorities outlined by Hegseth last summer.
I also heard an A-10 Warthog crashed in Persian Gulf today and Pilots are rescued, but it’s the Navigator that is unaccounted for from the F-15. 🙏🏻🇺🇸
Yes I read similar accounts.
During the 1978/79 Iranian revolution, Khuzestan was one of the main flashpoints, as well as it being the front line of the 1980s Iraq-Iran war. United States would have to be insane if they decide to enter Iran from this region, they will be shredded.
Advisable to forego the AI for war tactics.
Is it not remarkable that this Quagmire of one month has resulted in the downing of ONE allied aircraft?
That says it all, right there.
By the way, what does the F35 lifetime operational expenditure have to do with the Iranian GDP? Is it a case of "big number" outsizes another, unrelated "big number"? Or, does it reflect the relative paucity of the nation's wealth and make for the starkness of such a poor country having wicked anti-aircraft and ballistic missile capabilities that make a first world military stand wayyy back? Why would a benign, poor nation have such capacity?
bet that pilot wishes he had never gotten in that F-15...... if he is still alive
An attempt at invasion, as opposed to a raid of some sort, is not yet in the offing since the U.S. ground troops entering the region are all light assault forces that, if put into action, will soon have to withdraw since there are no reinforcements behind them.
However, should an actual invasion be contemplated, an additional obstacle not listed here by John Leake is that the forces would not have the luxury of amassing over weeks and months in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia unmolested by the enemy, as they did in 1990-91 and 2002-03. Iran will be pouring missiles and drones on them the whole time, prior to any “incursion.”
John McCain was given the name songbird for a reason. He was no hero in a lot of peoples eyes including mine. As far as them fighting, it’s for freedom and against the regime.
It's a shame that the brain-trusts in DC decided to invade Iraq over, you remember, the WMD scam. Because Iraq was the counterweight to Iran.
But, they decided to invade, and the Freedom of Information Act produced documents showing that the same brilliant brain-trust wanted to go to Tehran after destroying Iraq.
But alas, the troops got bogged down in Iraq, mainly due to road bombs and other groups engaging in the fight, so the plans to invade Iran never happened.
Just imagine if the same hair-brained trust had not invaded Iraq and lied about WMD?
How many lives would have been saved, and how much money would not have been printed? And, we would still have Iraq doing the heavy lifting over Iran.
These ignorant Neocons, for some incomprehensible reason, decided to pull the tent pins in the Middle East and collapse the whole structure that evolved over decades.
That's exactly what the founders of America said we should avoid. These are the brain-trusts in DC. Their combined IQs don't exceed 100.
As seen in the Ukraine / Russia SMO, big arrow, armored thrusts are no longer possible in the ISR rich environment of the modern warfare. Drones, mines, missiles and artillery will do their work. Israel is experiencing this in Lebanon right now. So, given the US military is incapable of learning the lessons of the modern battlefield, it's highly likely they're going to try a big arrow armored assault through Khusestan. It is really the only logical route to Kharg. Iran however are not going to give the US time to assemble and concentrate their forces for the assault. They are going to be hit in their assembly zones.
Israel stated that they cannot send ground forces as it is logistically impossible. Only US soldiers will be dying,
Israel has said that it will not deploy any IDF forces to the Iranian battlefield....It's strictly Americans who will die....
Yes, indeed, let's compare the cost of a weapons system over its 94-year history to the annual GNP of our adversary and pretend we're doing analysis... What's next, comparing the number of NBA players to the number of refrigerator magnets in Buffalo?
We haven't found the plane yet either. We need to bomb it after the rescue. The Iranians are going to recover it and send it to Russia or China for the electronics. They probably already have an agreement with them for something like that.