John, If you have not spent time reading and reflecting on Romans chapter 1 verse 16 through 32. I would strongly encourage you to do that. This section of Romans can explain everything. In short summary, it states that when man refuses to see the truth of God that is evident all around us and begins to worship the creature rather than the creator than ultimately God turns them over to the lists of their heart. This leads to literally the dishonoring of their own bodies, and to degraded passions, leading to exchanging the natural function of male and female, sexual relationship relationships. It states after we are turned over to degrading passions, we are turned over to a depraved mind. This is a methodical downhill slope with the ultimate result in a depraved mind. What do depraved minds do? There is a long list, but I will highlight several things, including wickedness, evil, murder, inventors of evil, unloving, unmerciful, and more importantly, lastly that “although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give Hardy approval to those who practice them“. This is exactly what you just described. We are now giving hardy approval to those who practice wickedness and evil deeds and murder. You could describe this as a psychopath, but I would say when a society as a whole rejects, the creator, the whole society ends up with a depraved mind. God help us.
yes, Romans 1 is a description of the collapsing downward judgment upon individuals or a city/nation that has given itself over to sinful delusions. Though his words do not necessarily show the bottom of the trough, its a clear presentation of the downward trajectory that one thing leads to something more and more worse. We can see this occuring in America as it has occuring in ever quickening pace since the 1980s. You can also see this as outlined in Torah in the curses outlined quite clearly in Deuteronomy 28—a whole laundry list of societal horrors.
"You could describe this as a psychopath, but I would say when a society as a whole rejects, the creator, the whole society ends up with a depraved mind"
Reliance on "the creator" is humans' unwillingness to confront the reality we continue to uncover. (Not to dismiss the helplessness of humans, that is; human arrogance is most certainly *not* the opposite of belief in God.) This reliance has worked very well for a lot of us (you), and for a while, and especially in the past, but it won't be anywhere enough to handle what's coming quite soon. Not by a large margin.
"Evil" is a word of magic that explains nothing, which is a big reason why it has won out every time. It will continue to do so if you keep listening to godmongers. I'd switch gears if I were you and start getting real.
Anti-Hip sounds like someone totally unfamiliar with Scripture. How unfortunate that the haters of Charlie Kirk are also unfamiliar with Scripture. They have no idea what a mess they are facing shortly, and that their evil God-hating deeds are accumulating daily, and will be presented to them at judgement... at which time they will be begging for mercy... and will NOT get mercy, because they showed no mercy. Some "religions" call it 'Karma', but God calls it "the Golden Rule", the second most important commandment given to men on Earth, ... "Love thy neighbour as thyself..." Those mocking God, Jesus, and Christians these days are in for a nasty and rude awakening. It is not that we are unable to snuff out their pitiful, anti-Christ lives in a mere moment... it IS THAT GOD PROHIBITS US FROM EXERCISING OUR ABILITIES IN THAT WAY. God says that vengeance IS HIS DOMAIN, and that He will repay. Anti-Hip is talking through the proverbial hat in ignorance of the knowledge of God, and His laws.
To be perfectly clear: Anti-Hip's statement (that ..."Reliance on "the creator" is humans' unwillingness to confront the reality we continue to uncover.") is patently false and foolish. We are not allowed, by the Word of God, to do what the haters of God do, it is not that we are unwilling. Many of us would like nothing better to show the evil grave dancers some harsh reality, but again, we are not allowed. God, our Creator, has that covered. It is one of the methods used by God to separate those who love Him from those who love evil, and He will indeed repay.
What is coming is prophesied to be the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the earth. So Jesus comes back, and burns the Earth, along with all the haters of Charlie Kirk, haters of God, haters of Jesus, and haters of those who rely on our Creator. We were instructed by the One who created us, to trust and rely upon our Creator.
There is nothing that demonstrates Scripture is real, that is, the voice of an invisible, magical, omniscient, anthropomorphic creature, as opposed to human authorship. ZERO. There is nothing it describes that distinguishes it from shared hallucinations. ZERO. Instead, there is within the "Futility of Trying to Reason With Lunatics".
I am calling you out on your false, pedestrian statement, Anti-Hip, you were saying...
"There is nothing that demonstrates Scripture is real", (end quote).
... It is abundantly clear that you have Not studied the Scriptures, Anthropology, Archeology, or History. Please, don't embarrass yourself with further comments demonstrating your ignorance of God's word. It is easy to determine your lack of knowledge in this area just by reading your words. Here is a simple, Google AI Overview summary of a real cold case detective's findings about evidence that shows the veracity of Scripture:
"Yes, the author of Cold-Case Christianity, J. Warner Wallace, is a former cold-case detective who argues for the reliability and validity of Scripture by applying his investigative techniques to the historical claims of the Gospels. He analyzes eyewitness testimony, checks for corroboration, and evaluates potential motives using established rules of evidence from criminal investigations, concluding that the evidence for the New Testament is compelling..."
I would recommend you hold your peace on this one Anti-Hip. Please, study more, philosophize less... for now.
Thanks for your comment constituting a mini book review of this book. I am persuaded by the internal coherence and consistency of The Bible. Lately, I have been exposed to arguments based on more external evidence which compare Islam/The Koran with Christianity/The Bible, specifically comparing how the growing discoveries in various disciplines of history, archeology etc have been accumulating more solid ground for The Bible while results from the same fields of study have been rather devastating to Islam. I do want to learn more about this.
I have spent many decades confronted by godmongering, and one of the most curious things I've about them is their predictions for pointing to *other* places where the supposed knowledge lies. They can never explain it themselves. I used to go to these other places (usually Bible passages), and Ive found that, frankly, if you don't already have stars in your eyes, they are either pedestrian or ambiguous gibberish.
This inability to transfer their supposed knowledge to a skeptic is a death blow to their persuasive ability to skeptics. In other words, the only people they are going to "persuade" are people who *already* have the same beliefs, or have some subconscious tendency to want to believe. So much for spreading "the good news".
Look, if your God was *actually* all-powerful, all-knowing, *and* all-loving, he'd never be having humans run this ridiculous gauntlet. We'd all be endowed with the ability and temperament to understand and believe in him, and live in peace happily ever after. But we don't, and the explanations for this I've found are beyond lame. Yes, the Bible is full of idiocies and contradictions. Give it up, and admit it's not rational.
Problem is, and the reason I'm bitching about it here, is that we are *woefully* unprepared to confront what's coming down the pike at us from unprecedented forces if large numbers of us continue to believe it's a biblical battle of good and evil.
I'm curious about you, Anti-Hip. You seem to sense intuitively that there is unprecedented trouble coming, which I agree with, and believe, based upon my own knowledge of Scripture, history, and current events. Yet, you claim to NOT UNDERSTAND the Bible, saying it is full of "idiocies and contradictions"... a statement which is entirely untrue. Either you have been deceived greatly by someone, or have not studied the Bible. Based upon your statements, which indicate you have not studied the Bible, It leads me to guess that you were abused, treated badly by someone who told you they were a Christian, and told you they knew what they were talking about. They obviously failed to convince you, the great skeptic.
There are two possibilities for this that I can see clearly... One is that you hate them so much, that you will never confess what they told you to be true. The other possibility is that you are the seed of Satan, to whom understanding of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven is never given. The wicked will never understand.
There is a third possibility... that BECAUSE you are skeptical, unbelieving and full of doubt, God will not grant you understanding.
To receive understanding, you must ask God for it, doubting nothing. Doubters do not get their prayers answered, Anti-Hip.
Obviously, it is wrong to blame God for your own failure to understand. He says you have to ask Him for understanding.
The Bible is very understandable... but you also must study to show thyself approved. God tests the spirits in people, as He also instructs us to test the spirits. Some are evil, wicked and hurtful, others, when tested, prove to be filled with light, love, and kindness.
I am willing to address any contradictions you can find in the Bible, honestly, clearly, and without ambiguity, if you would like. Just name them, one by one.
Creation was corrupted a long time ago, Anti-Hip, and God has to fix it. So, He allows people to commit heresy, greed, malice, mockery, and all sorts of things, for the purpose of determining who loves Him. He said, that by following His commandments, doing them without question and without hesitation, that He knows who loves Him. That information becomes totally relevant on judgement day.
I would hazard a guess here, Anti-Hip, that the reason we are having this discussion is because Jesus is calling you, giving you one last chance to get right with God. The end is near, pray today for Jesus to save you from what you know is coming. I write to you in the name of Jesus, without whom nothing was made that is made. Do it while it is called TODAY. You were created by God, not monkey semen. It is wrong to deny God's great work.
Oh, my. I beg you to go get educated. You are doing a disservice to yourself. Coming off as a dunce with no intellect or experience. When you set out to trash the views of others, you darn well better know what you are talking about... instead of coming off like an acne ridden high school freshman. Please, do not so discredit yourself.
As I pointed out earlier, an ACTUAL all-powerful, all-knowing AND all-loving God would not do any of the ridiculous things we see, ESPECIALLY the things godmongers say and do. THE DESCRIPTION OF GOD IN SCRIPTURE IS NECESSARILY FALSE, and had to have been based on the all-too-human writers of the Bible, who did the best they could to manage society without infinite time or words.
Everything else is absurd rationalization. And all you do is tell me nothing of substance, but to go read, little boy, and don't come back until you've swallowed it like Sybil, till it's leaking out of your ass.
The Bible describes God's creation of the world, all that is in it, and the devil's ploy at disrupting God's creation. God provided opportunities to His people to reform from the evil they bought into, but they, like you, turned their backs on God. So He punished them, over and again, yet they insisted upon despising God. Sound familiar Anti-Hip? God is easy to understand, if you are a parent, which God is... we were created in the image of God, and He says He is our Father. DNA is now known to differ slightly in every human... God says He knows how many hairs are on your head, and your thoughts, and everything about you. He would not be wasting my time trying to reach you, if He did not love you. Any Father wants His children to love him back... that's perfectly normal. It is not normal to hate your Father. Satan loves to cause divisions, and specializes in causing divisions. It is critically important to understand that God creates good AND evil... He creates everything, and uses evil men to accomplish things like judgement. That is why we are having so much trouble in the world... it is because many folks have denied God, and He is allowing the evil to happen for the purpose of punishing unbelievers. You, Anti-Hip, are actually helping the evil people by denying God, unwittingly becoming part of the current problem, and part of the answer to the problem of how to deal with that evil. God destroys the world again, this time by fire. Previously, the Earth was destroyed by water. The evidence is incontrovertible. I am a licensed Prospector, well acquainted with Geology, and can attest that all of the current formations on Earth were formed or changed by the Flood. God destroyed the unbelievers without mercy, as a potter would break all his lousy pottery and start over again. Evil corrupted the seed of man, and God had to fix it. Well, it's been done again, Anti-Hip, and God has to fix it. The Bible describes how and why, clearly.
I'm trashing the shit that, in my life, has been shoved down my throat since day 1. In my old age, regarding having to forever confront this crap, I apologize for NOTHING. At a VERY young age I lived in TERROR of going to hell. So you can take all this contempt you have for me, and shove it back up your ass, so far and fast your teeth go flying. Capice?
At an early age you were abused or felt abused by those that placed you in terror, in great fear, that you were going to suffer a place they described as hell. That is horrible.
Traumatizing kids with belief is way out of bounds and has nothing to do with the faith. Who were the people who did this to you? (I do not believe it was anyone on this thread, and it was not I. So no need to swear at us or make accusations.)
And to clarify, I do not have contempt for you. But I am calling you out for inappropriately addressing others.
Whoever abused you did great harm. They closed doors that you may have otherwise wanted to open and investigate. That is sad, and perhaps there is nothing to be done about that. However, misdirecting your upset toward those who had nothing to do with your situation is not cool.
I would have a civil conversation with you, but I fear your hurt and anger prevent that outcome. You might find I know more about what is wrong with certain approaches to faith, bad theology, if you will. But I cannot even get to that if you are cursing and accusing. First we need to address what happened to you.
The Bible was shoved down your throat? No wonder you hate whoever was your mentor. Does forcing the truth on you make the truth a lie? No, clearly, but why were you needing to be forced... were you that stubborn and intransigent that you could not be taught without threats? Or, was your abuser not actually a Christian? Hell is real, and there are also charlatans who prey on young people. Satan is to blame, not God, and certainly not the truth.
That one needs to be *educated* about (the Abrahamic) God *in order to* to believe in him is more than sufficient proof that he doesn't exist. To convince we instead chase after your pointers above (links, of whatever kind), I ask you then to first point me to, from classical philosophy, who successfully refutes what I just said above in this post. If successful, *then* I will read your other pointers. Barring that, forget it.
The Bible says we are to pay no heed to the philosophy of men. Classical philosophy is a dead end trap for the mind that was created by God, to serve Him, not to serve the creation more than the Creator. "Ask, and it shall be given, seek, and ye shall find"... those words are meant for you, Anti-Hip, spoken by Jesus. God has no respect for sluggards who are too lazy to seek His counsel, and doubters can expect nothing from God. Fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of knowledge, Anti-Hip. Wisdom is impossible to attain without knowledge, and true knowledge cannot be realized without confessing God. You have boxed yourself into a proverbial corner, speaking without wisdom. The people that hate God are practicing fake knowledge, producing fake news, fake history, fake philosophy, fake vaccines, fake food, fake culture... fake everything. Jesus said... "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by me". He said that because He was given all the power of God, among men, to save His people. There are people that are not the children of God... they are evil, and will not be saved. Evil is what our battle is against. Evil is all that is not true.
"GOD PROHIBITS US". God prohibits nothing. Because he's not there, he's only in your heads. That's why everyone's out there killing, if you hadn't noticed.
Answer this question, intelligently, honestly, and please, without ambiguity, Anti-Hip. were you created by God, or did you come from the spawn of a monkey? You obviously deny God, so who were your ancestors? And who were their ancestors? If God did not create you, the great skeptic, how are you here today, in this world, denying that evil exists? Do monkeys also deny God?
"were you created by God, or did you come from the spawn of a monkey?"
(1) (Note, the two clauses are not contradictory, so both could be assigned 'true', i.e. inclusive 'or'.)
(2) (Note, I do not know either. In fact, I know nothing; I only believe. I believe that is true of all humans.)
(3) I believe evolution (broadly speaking) provides the most comprehensive and plausible of source explanations. There are many recognized gaps in evolution theories, and there are many failures in current evolution theories yet to be uncovered, but that doesn't diminish my first claim a whit, as there is no other class of explanations that do better or even approach it.
(4) I believe "created by God" simply avoids answering the question, and, at least in my experience, doesn't even attempt to bridge the gap for skeptics by meeting them where they are at. So I believe the insult is best ignored rather than entertained.
(5) "who were your [ancient(?)] ancestors? And who were their ancestors? If God did not create you, the great skeptic, how are you here today, in this world, denying that evil exists? ... Do monkeys also deny God?" I don't know, and I don't worry about any of those things, because they are much less interesting to me than a great many other questions. In particular (for its relevance here), a proof of God's existence that works on skeptics. Because it seems to me the point of evangelizing.
Your reply helps alright... it helps me to understand that you are a 'bloviator'. I asked the questions of you for the purpose of determining what you believe. It is evident that you actually believe nothing, which you've defended preemptively by retreating behind "I do not know"... Well, if you do not know, then you should remain silent about commenting on God. Despising "god-mongers" is seemingly good sport to you, but the problem it that doing so delineates your true ignorance.
I can tell you definitively, ANTI-HIP, that you did not form from the spawn of a monkey. You were created by God. You have unique DNA, there is no one in the world that has identical DNA to yours... therefore, you are special to God.
Obviously, the Holy Spirit of God has moved me to tolerate your disbelief in God, probably for one last chance to accept the FACT that everyone dies, but some have everlasting life.
You have a choice... continue to deny your Creator, and go to eternal death in hell, or choose life, and accept that Jesus was in fact murdered on the cross by other unbelievers, to pay the price of your redemption.
The answer you provide to my previous questions are unacceptable, and evidence of your intransigence. I have no interest whatsoever in playing juvenile word games, ANTI-HIP, and I see that you prefer to trust lies rather than truth. ( You mentioned you are leaning toward evolution rather than Creation).
Have you heard of 'Irreducible Complexity'? Essentially, with the advent of super microscopes, it is possible to see deeply into the innermost workings of the human cells. It is found that the ATP cycle is dependent upon three or four fundamental components, lacking which, there cannot be life.
The design is obvious, it is like a factory, producing energy, and without even one of the components, evolution CANNOT happen. The argument is that without this cycle, life cannot exist. Without life, evolution is impossible. Therefore, creation is the only possibility for the origins of life. Darwin, in his work, did not address this issue, nor did he know anything about DNA.
Darwin was a fraud. Not the only one, there are many these days, and we are warned, by the word of God, to be mindful of them. Most "fact-checkers" actually are paid to spin the truth, and were popularized during the Covid Fraud.
The point of all this of course, is to determine if you are justified in denying God, mocking believers, and supporting fraudulent theories.
I will leave you at this juncture to engage in some self-examination, to consider whether you are intellectually honest, or not. (Your last reply was considered to be disingenuous.) If there was in fact Creation, then there is a Creator. If there is a Creator, He made you, and myself, and all others, all things, and is all powerful, all knowing... yet you question His methods in allowing evil to propagate, for example. The Bible explains that God uses evil men to accomplish His will, as well as good men, to accomplish His will. He also gives us a choice to love Him, or despise Him, and treats us accordingly, as per His 'Golden Rule". How do you wish to be treated, ANTI-HIP... ? He also will judge us accordingly... just as your 'abuser' tried to warn you years ago, "shoving the truth down your throat". I write to you in Jesus' precious name, who obviously is calling you. He loves you, and does not want you to lose out on eternal life with Him through intransigent, pig-headed stubbornness on your part. Pray to God, in Jesus name, and ask for understanding. Seek, and ye shall find, ask, and it shall be given".
Holy crap!! You don't have to be a "godmonger" as you call it to know that evil exists and some people chose to commit evil acts. When you begin to call evil for what it is, evil, then you will be able to meet and defeat it.
Well you if you don’t like the word evil you can pick another descriptor. Regardless of the descriptor you know that what happened was horrible, deplorable, wrong, etc. “Evil” is self evident but I would agree that it’s not any one’s individual opinion that determines what is evil, as all of our opinions carry the same weight. For evil to be recognized there has to be transcendent standards outside of us where good, holiness, righteousness, is displayed. That certainly is not modeled by us as human beings. Ask yourself why did the assassination of Kirk not turn into burning cities to the ground but instead to prayer vigils? Because the people who loved Charlie are different. Why? That 2000 year old book has been around a really long time I would say. Must be something really unique about it. It has more manuscripts to determine its authenticity than any of the classics. And I would say that its message transforms lives. As humans, with our hubris, who have only been around say a few decades probably should humble ourselves and perhaps learn from that book. It actually says that it is a fool who says there is no God.
"It has more manuscripts to determine its authenticity than any of the classics."
Well, I understand may have more copies, I don't see how copies determine authenticity. Aren't the oldest known copies (of New Testament, anyway) tiny fragments, and decades after the events it describes?
Also I understand has quite limited cross-references between alien texts (e.g. contemporary Roman historians talking about Jesus). That would seem to be very important to have confirming evidence.
If the Old Testament that tells us the Jews will inherit the Earth had appeared, after being planted by God, of course, simultaneously in, but uncovered in archeology digs in, say, present-day Chile, Australia, China, etc. that would be pretty good evidence that Jews were chosen by God to do so. Oddly, though, this document appointing Jews was given to the world by, well ... Jews. Hmmm. I think "I'm stupid, but I'm not that stupid" kind of gets at that.
No, when you begin to identify the very varied causes for anti-social behavior, *then* you will be able to meet it and defeat it. If you call everything "evil" that does not meet with your approval, or with the "approval" of the two-thousand year old book, then you will dig yourselves deeper.
You seem to have missed some basic concepts regarding Reality. Your arguments, if you want to call them that, are weak and paper thin. Best you go prepare for dialogue and conversation. It works better that way.
Could you "wow" me with some of the most incredible words of God regarding reality? The best of them shouldn't be hard to find, shouldn't they win me over?
Do you instead say I must *want* to seek God first? Well, seems to me the problem with having to want to *seek* God before finding *evidence* of God has it's own corrupting factor... What is to be done with it?
The incredible words of God are found in the Bible, ANTI-HIP, and are there for all who desire a relationship with God. It is the Holy Spirit that brings you to Jesus, not us, we are only the willing messengers. We were "wowed" by the words of God, believed them, and are saved from what is coming. You, on the other hand, are resisting the efforts of the Holy Spirit to reconcile you with God through the shed blood of Jesus. It is Jesus only that brings you back to God. The Bible explains all of this, in great detail. It is apparent to me that Jesus is calling you, but you are resisting, to your own hurt. Open the door, ANTI-HIP, and let Him in... time is short. Again, we are only the messengers... we are obedient to God's instructions... He tells us to share the gospel, Matt. 28: "The Great Commission"... we are to teach men from every nation to obey all that God commanded, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If everyone did what God asked of us, we would not be facing the trouble in the world we see today. Please, be part of the solution, instead of being part of the problem.
I mean the sum total of what humanity has discovered, thought, shared, agreed, and left for posterity, in all dimensions (science, spirituality, etc.).
In the absolute, complete knowledge of the external, of any kind, must be recognized as unattainable; a human would have to be one with the object for it to be otherwise. Instead, everything is perception and belief.
A big mistake is to call what that which is wickedness, "sickness" or "Pathology" or "crazy". When you do that, you give some cover to evil. Yes evil is a real thing.
Also God has said. " And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.." Jerimiah 29:13. That is a promise.
No, "evil" is a moral term that explains nothing about what is fully going on inside the person. Nothing. For example, there are intelligent psychopaths who *care* nothing for people, and there are certain neurodiverse who can *read* nothing about people, who are poles apart from each other.
Ah, you are badly miseducated and are using faulty academic nonsense. Please get yourself educated and ready to debate and enjoy conversation. Sophomoric psychology goes nowhere.
What you are describing is what Frederick Nietzsche (and others before him) described as the "God is dead" paradoxical position that people such as yourself have placed much of Western society into. It should be clear as we watch the ongoing collapse of our population, our nations (debt, crime, famine, deadly injections) and soon the environment as we press toward world war 3 for some bankers' scheme to grapple with an enormous global debt that it isn't my God that is dead, it is yours. It isn't the children of my God that cheered on Charlie Kirk's death.
Incoherent. Really. It would be better to prepare for dialogue rather than to enter uneducated. People will tend to be nice and accommodating at first, but then will cease to put up with faulty reason and sophomoric accusations.
You don't meet at my own own allegedly ignorant and the unjustified level. That's proof enough you don't even know how communicate as your "Savior" would to the unworthy.
John, my thoughts precisely for some time: Just look at the Madmen who have sway over us: Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Altman, Fauci, the infintile Presidents from Clinton on, primitive, infintile, destabilized souls, and of course I have always thought feminism, and the swath of cultural devastation it has inflicted is due to harpy harradans disabling the natural order of life.
It started with the Clintons got worse with Bush {9/11} and went full speed ahead with Obama {Bill Ayers, Rev White} and all his cabinet members. You could see where we were headed with the Obama-Biden Presidency.
You say Clinton on? I would say bush on and possibly back a bit more- bush was cia when jfk was murdered. This is why we didn’t see all the info. Back then. Our destruction started at least with bush and 9/11- we should have done more.
Not Madmen, Downpressor men Turn up the volume and listen to Peter Tosh sing about the destiny of those men and many more. "I wouldn't like to be a flea under your collar, on that day," https://youtu.be/zjoE6MiuQUM
Demonic possession is often mistaken for mental illness, and is in many cases a better explanation. Even John himself uses the term “possession“ to describe what he sees, though he frames it in psychological rather than spiritual terms.
But what we’re seeing isn’t sickness, it’s evil. The people celebrating Charlie’s murder relish in its gore precisely because they want to bathe themselves in depravity. It’s not that they don’t care about evil, it’s that they revel in it. They are consumed with bloodlust, salivating over the anticipation of their next kill.
We’re not going to address this problem properly if we continue using half measures. We need to stop framing sin as sickness. This is not curable with a pill or a therapist. Some of these people are, of course, indoctrinated and could conceivably be deprogrammed, but the depth of evil we are witnessing is something far beyond the reach of psychology and psychiatry. The kind of salvation that’s needed here is offered only by Jesus Christ.
As I took the time to reflect on this reply, I realized I needed to clarify a few things:
1. The evil we're witnessing may be unique to our experience, but it's by no means unique to the human experience. In fact, it's arguably closer to the rule than the exception.
2. I don't want to over-diagnose possession. There is surely plenty of blame to go around given the compounding effects of such things as youthful ignorance and arrogance, the impact of psychiatric drugs, the indoctrination in schools, etc.
3. This piece is well thought-out and deserved more respect than my stream-of-consciousness reply. Apologies to John, who could easily have eviscerated me but chose not to. Thank you.
What I did mean to say was that our modern view of reality rejects the spiritual realm and thus is forced to fit everything it observes into the mould of materialism. Spiritual activity, whether good or evil, must ultimately be explained by forces that can handled, quantified, and comprehended.
As a Christian, I reject that as nothing more than an atheist fantasy designed to muzzle a screaming conscience. Communing with spirits/demons has been a staple of various cultures and many religions throughout history, and if we accept the spiritual realm as part of reality (indeed, it is the ultimate reality), then we cannot write off its effect on this world.
Is every leftist inhabited by demons? Of course not. I even chuckled while writing that because it's ridiculous, but leftism is a regimented ideology in which the beliefs of those at the bottom are determined by the influence and diktats of those at the top. If certain key players dabbled in the occult, that would be enough to at least exert demonic influence over millions worldwide.
But we can plainly see that many leftist foot soldiers so hate God and all things derived from Him that they would openly welcome demonic possession. How widespread it is, I can't possibly say, but I'm firmly convinced that it's in the driver's seat.
I hope that sufficiently clarifies my clunky post from earlier. Thanks for bearing with me.
...Across the entirety of the Anglosphere—from the municipal councils of England to the federal apparatus of Canada, from the academic halls of Australia to the non-profit complex of the United States—a single, grim reality prevails. The levers of power are manned by individuals dominated by Cluster A, B, and C personality disorders. This is not a metaphor; it's a clinical diagnosis of the vast majority of our rulers and their vast managerial puppet class...
What you are describing is what occured in the French revolution and then the Russian, Chinese, Vietnam, Cambodian communist revolutions. Increasing levels of blood lust and no clear exit ramp how to escape the downward trajectory—worship of total power through terror and murder.
You are correct and if you dig deeper, you find that many of these people are on psychotropic meds. It seems that those in power want to put our society to sleep with psychotropic meds, ketamine, cannabis and psychedelics. I suppose if everyone is asleep, they won't notice the absolute evil that surrounds us.
It has also been noted in some studies that the shots that most people got over the past 5 years has had a cognitive affect on the minds of many people. It is also noted that most young people got the shot because they were mandated to receive it for school attendance and for work. Could this be the reason behind some of this madness?
Italian scientists/pathologists upon dissecting the brains of the "vaxxed" have found that their pineal glands were completely destroyed. I believe that Arne Buchardt...a German pathologist also made a similar observation I wrote to a pathologist in Idaho who has been doing autopsies on the "vaxxed" about the Italian discovery....but received no reply from him....Oh well.
Some scientists and others believe our pineal glands have. as one possible function, the ability to connect us with the unseen spiritual world. Who knows?
Yes. Edgar Cayce a renowned clairvoyant spoke about the pineal gland being a connection to our higher consciousness. Many recent studies also consider that even the "unvaxed' have been harmed by shedding. We are certainly in a spiritual war so we need to be aware and awake.
When under the influence of mind altering drugs we lose control of our minds, and therefore our behaviors to varying degrees. Mind altering drugs have been used for millenia as a means of piercing the thin veil that separates the material and spirit worlds, by Shamans, Oracles, and medicine men. These drugs are gateways for demons.
I think these “jabs” are more insidious than we can speculate. I didn’t know about its purported effect on the pineal gland. However, it makes sense. The pineal gland is so powerful and maybe our lifestyle our lifestyle is truly affecting it, causing calcification and atrophy. I often wonder how much of the devastation we’re seeing mentally, spiritually and physically is a result of a concerted effort to destroy the masses. The vast majority know nothing about our reality and don’t care because they are worshipping at the altar of humanism, not God.
Agree whole heartedly John. Just read Dr Malone’s substack this AM and I believe he is right on. This is not just lunacy but lunacy combined with a targeted effort by militant well funded organizations whose goal is to ruin America and all we stand for. This shooter was simply one of many they are grooming and preparing. And the deranged mentally ill who are intelligent are especially dangerous. We are in dark times.
Right. The targeted effort (conspiracy with much of it by Marxist design) amounts to a boot camp for their useful idiot soldiers (human resources/only valued for their utility and exploited) as they rise to power. Kirk was powerful in opening up the minds of the vulnerable to truth and self-awareness/knowledge. In his death, he now rallies more forces to oppose their evil designs.
both the communist left and Islam work on youth to weaponize them towards authoritarian revolutionary and mindless zeal. Funny though that communists can only promise power without any clear reward while Islam dangles power, rewards and unlimited sexual slaves in front of their subjects.
And the deranged mentally ill who are intelligent are especially dangerous, because they are recruited and elevated in the matrix of global control...
... Across the entirety of the Anglosphere—from the municipal councils of England to the federal apparatus of Canada, from the academic halls of Australia to the non-profit complex of the United States—a single, grim reality prevails. The levers of power are manned by individuals dominated by Cluster A, B, and C personality disorders. This is not a metaphor; it's a clinical diagnosis of the vast majority of our rulers and their vast managerial puppet class...
"At least some people are making a database showing the names and workplaces of all those who condone this violence."
This refers to the website charliesmurderers.com, where users submit and compile data on individuals publicly celebrating or condoning the assassination (framed as political violence or civil unrest in the context of the event). The database is intended to be searchable by location, employer, and industry to facilitate exposure, accountability, and potential consequences like job loss.
The database itself is hosted at https://www.charliesmurderers.com/, where submissions are being collected on individuals condoning or celebrating the violence related to Charlie Kirk's assassination, with plans to make it searchable by location, employer, and industry. As of this morning, it had received nearly 20,000 submissions.
People need to be held accountable for their behavior. Regardless of which religion anyone should subscribe to, not one of them (to my knowledge) promotes hate speach to the extent of celebrating the assassination of a human being. How did we allow our collective society to become so soul-less?
Pray without ceasing...give thanks for God's mercy and patience.
Do your best to listen and discern the small still voice of Love which surrounds us all if only we acknowledge and embrace it....struggling like most...🙏🏼😇😎
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.
The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.
Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.
Good question. And how long before databases like this one are used against us, I wonder? As far as I know, even the mentally ill and soul-less are protected by the first amendment. And I am referring to the use of words, not acts of violence, just to be clear.
Most depressing are the lunatics have total control over the mainstream media and our colleges and universities. We are also faced with the sad reality our government and the medical community are also seriously infected with deranged lemming lunatics.
A problem we have, however, is that mental health education from psychiatrists to psychologists ro mental health nurses is shaped solely via the so-called "scientist-practitioner" model which is based on naturalism aka scientific materialism. There is no soul or spirit in this model, no objective truth or morality to guide behaviour. There is just "normal" and "abnormal" psychology as decided ultimately by some "panel of experts" (DSM) or by so-called "community standards". This further leads to radical expressive individualism and ultimately to extreme and rampant radical subjectivism.
"Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold, mere anarchy is loosed upon the world". It appears we have just about arrived.
How can there be any doubt that the legacy media and many, many elected officials from Congress on down to local school boards are obviously mentally ill? They are eager to approve and/or justify any evil. They are pro-psychopathic killers. They are pro-the destruction of our society. Any element of common decency is absent, as is reason. Ten minutes of ABC news or listening to the likes of Ilhan Omar or Chris Van Hollen are all you need to understand this.
Thank you John (and Carl Jung) so much for this sobering piece.
I remain so broken hearted, confused and distraught for his family and our nation, especially the youth, at this heinous cowardly act and the subsequent jubilation from so many. Of all the people to assassinate, this monster chose the one man who always sought civil discourse. What not sign up to ask him your question? Instead this coward just murdered him to shut him up. Here is what I am experiencing, and it makes me physically sick and uncertain how to proceed.
Many of my lifelong friends and family still believe the vax is "safe and effective"- need I say more? This same bunch NEVER mentioned the attempted assassinations on President Trump. I knew they were thrilled. I now cannot even mention the Charlie Kirk tragedy, which is so on my heart and mind, because I fear they will come out with some asinine demonic comment and I simply cannot take hearing it.
YET, I do continue to walk the thin sad line of trying to keep lifelong friends and family close. and connected. I am part of a huge network of family and friends and I am unwilling to become a bitter island. But to do this I must self censor which is horrible and unlike me. BUT I am desperate to see my precious grandchildren.
But it is so hard to witness what is happening to our culture and to people I thought I knew.
The things Charlie advocated and supported are the very ideals I grew up with and most others of the 1940s. 1950s and even the 60s- family, faith in God, commitment, civil discourse, striving to do your best, love and acceptance....it all seems gone now. Thanks for this troubling but true piece.
Trying Hard, You speak for me. I only wish to add that I share with you the heartbreaking dilemma of jeopardizing our relationship with our grandchildren. This is the cruelest choice.
Yes...I am in that position. I consciously CHOSE to sacrifice my relationships with them because that is the only way I could show my love in this horrible dilemma. It was planned thus. The parents got "jabbed" so they could still earn and the grandparents so they were not jettisoned from the family. I decided for vocal dissonance and dispassionate rejection of the entire fraud. So the obvious occurred. I have not seen one daughter or her two sons for over two years. So be it. I do not consent. But thankfully--that is a small price in the larger picture. My conscience is clear. I am saddened for what was done to them. There was no pandemic as most now know.
Every adult in my family--jabbed except myself. Horrifying to realize this was long planned and they were simply tricked and terrorized into it...there was no "pandemic"...so the jab is totally unrelated to health. Analysts have stated there were about 2O different versions....some extremely toxic and others harmless. Created to cause "cognitive dissonance" and distrust among the survivors while actually killing and injuring many. Look at all the doctors and nurses who perished in one are of Canada...documented by Dr. William Makis of covidintel...I think it was close to a 1OO or more in one small area. In others the damage is longterm. I refused it...but every single night I hear my jabbed husband moaning and struggling in his sleep. In the past he never did that. He has acquired guillaine barre syndrome and has trouble holding his silverware. He believes this is just the result of aging....There is no proof one way or another. Others in our apartment complex got cancer or had strokes or simply died. There was no "pandemic"...so the point of this injection was malevolent harm. There is no other explanation. Were Trump and Biden in on this attack? It would appear so....Now this toxic "vaccine" is being injected into infants and small children....Some say the european royals were injected as well. I have my doubts on that. I remember Pricilla Presley made a video and did a song about her "vaccination. I think she died. Not sure on that....How amazing that this untested product had no ingredient list so no one even knows the contents. Researcher Craig Paardekooper in the UK has stated there were about 2O versions. Reiner Fuellmich--a renowned tort attorney who presided over high profile fraud cases in the past-- was coordinating a wide area analysis of the "jab" when he was "arrested" for tax fraud and illegally deported to a German prison...where he remains to this day.
This is what happens when we live by "Do what thou wilt." Don't know where that comes from? The Satanist cult. When we live for Christ, we have "Not my will, but Thine be done."
Matthew 5:43-48 KJV
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? [47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? [48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Demon possession does not require the person’s head to rotate 360 degrees and vomiting green pea soup. Satanists are not crazy, they’re just evil. Mass hypnosis of the vulnerable is occurring on college campuses and now down to the grade school level with the constant barrage of woke ideology and hate for this country and its values and a hatred for conservatism and God. We need to “put on the whole armor of God, “ that we “may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph 6:11-12). The verses go on to describe that armor, consisting of representations of truth, righteousness, preparation of the gospel of peace, faith, salvation, the Spirit which is the word of God. We must be prepared for this spiritual war.
The world is filled with demons and they are showing their faces now! Satan is rejoicing, He thinks he has won this battle! I hope they continue to do so, when they hide in the shadows, they are hard to discern. Speak the name of Jesus who overcame death and promises eternal life. Nothing makes Satan madder! I want him furious!
I am a frequent and harsh critic of eugenicists. Often citing Buck v. Bell, the notorious "Three generations of imbeciles is enough" 8-1 SCOTUS ruling a century ago. Raised as a thought-provoking defense at the Nuremberg Trials, "you said it was good policy, what's the big deal?"
In many ways what you describe would support the words of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. But there is more to it. It was under that premise that the 'asocials' were targeted by the Third Reich in the eugenics cleansing of Germany and Europe. Incarcerated, experimented on and 'euthanized,' i.e. mass murdered.
And what qualified as 'asocial?' Political opponents of the regime. The disobedient and insolent. The profane and defiant. A Charlie Kirk would be deemed 'asocial' for challenging authority, official narratives, even in the mildest of ways, just the same as his transtifa haters spewing toxic filth.
The problem with eugenics, the practice of 'fixing' the gene pool for public safety and harmony is who gets to decide the desirables vs the undesirables? And as with most things, wealth, power, connections become the largest determinant. A psychopathic sociopathic billionaire or others in high positions will never become a target to 'cleanse.' No matter how 'asocial' they are. I.e. the Jasmine Crockett's: offensive, profane, insolent...and wealthy, powerful. Those who would kill millions would never be deemed 'asocial' while those who would merely be offensive in speech and manner could be jailed or executed.
So this is a debate over perilous underpinnings of our society and our humanity. I don't have a clear answer, only a heightened sensitivity to it based on a fair amount of reading human history, psychology, law, philosophy, ethics and power dynamics. Tread carefully.
Good point, but being particularly pugnacious and unable to reason can be a sign of an unsound mind, of reduced capacity to make judgments, if not decisions.
True. Demonstrably. The question is what is to be done with that?
What Charlie did well was try to find a connection with that unsound mind and help it reorganize into sounder judgements.
This will work for many. Most we see is the result of conditioning, not genetics. The nurture v. nature debate. The number of genetically suspect minds is blessedly small. The number of environmentally polluted minds is tragically large.
We have some industrial polluters pumping filth into our most precious natural resource. It's the sources of pollution that we must clean up. Schools, media entertainment, the law profession, every perch of cultural and societal high ground is occupied by industrial mind polluters. How to clean up a toxic superfund site respecting disagreements over what is pollution is the challenge.
I wish I were younger and stronger, able to let my words flow as Charlie's did. How many times I wondered at his intellect, his way with words, his giant faith. All I can do is pray and pray that I can do my very best to keep Turning Point going forward. What a huge loss to the entire world!
PRAY for ALMIGHTY GOD's Holy Spirirt to equip you and speak through you! YOU CAN be a MIGHTY vessel for our Lord and Savior as ALMIGHTY GOD guides YOU!
Charlie's eloquence and power came from ALMIGHTY GOD. Charlie was simply OBEDIENT even unto death....
It's surprising that the essay says nothing about proven neuropsychiatric harms of the corona injections. These harms are documented even in data published by the makers of these toxins prior to the mass rollout.
"The Indoctrinated Brain" by Michael Nehls, M.D. is readily available, and is a crucial reference. Nehls explicates specific damage done to the hippocampus and elsewhere in the brain.
The salient point: the situation now may be far more dangerous than that described by Carl Jung. Neuropsychiatric damage may have resulted in parts of the populace being neurologically incapable of critical thinking and discernment.
Neuropsychiatric damage has clearly resulted in an alarming percentage of the populace being neurologically incapable of critical thinking and discernment, worse than ever before.
John, If you have not spent time reading and reflecting on Romans chapter 1 verse 16 through 32. I would strongly encourage you to do that. This section of Romans can explain everything. In short summary, it states that when man refuses to see the truth of God that is evident all around us and begins to worship the creature rather than the creator than ultimately God turns them over to the lists of their heart. This leads to literally the dishonoring of their own bodies, and to degraded passions, leading to exchanging the natural function of male and female, sexual relationship relationships. It states after we are turned over to degrading passions, we are turned over to a depraved mind. This is a methodical downhill slope with the ultimate result in a depraved mind. What do depraved minds do? There is a long list, but I will highlight several things, including wickedness, evil, murder, inventors of evil, unloving, unmerciful, and more importantly, lastly that “although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give Hardy approval to those who practice them“. This is exactly what you just described. We are now giving hardy approval to those who practice wickedness and evil deeds and murder. You could describe this as a psychopath, but I would say when a society as a whole rejects, the creator, the whole society ends up with a depraved mind. God help us.
You are absolutely right, and stated so eloquently! God, have mercy on us!
yes, Romans 1 is a description of the collapsing downward judgment upon individuals or a city/nation that has given itself over to sinful delusions. Though his words do not necessarily show the bottom of the trough, its a clear presentation of the downward trajectory that one thing leads to something more and more worse. We can see this occuring in America as it has occuring in ever quickening pace since the 1980s. You can also see this as outlined in Torah in the curses outlined quite clearly in Deuteronomy 28—a whole laundry list of societal horrors.
"You could describe this as a psychopath, but I would say when a society as a whole rejects, the creator, the whole society ends up with a depraved mind"
Reliance on "the creator" is humans' unwillingness to confront the reality we continue to uncover. (Not to dismiss the helplessness of humans, that is; human arrogance is most certainly *not* the opposite of belief in God.) This reliance has worked very well for a lot of us (you), and for a while, and especially in the past, but it won't be anywhere enough to handle what's coming quite soon. Not by a large margin.
"Evil" is a word of magic that explains nothing, which is a big reason why it has won out every time. It will continue to do so if you keep listening to godmongers. I'd switch gears if I were you and start getting real.
Anti-Hip sounds like someone totally unfamiliar with Scripture. How unfortunate that the haters of Charlie Kirk are also unfamiliar with Scripture. They have no idea what a mess they are facing shortly, and that their evil God-hating deeds are accumulating daily, and will be presented to them at judgement... at which time they will be begging for mercy... and will NOT get mercy, because they showed no mercy. Some "religions" call it 'Karma', but God calls it "the Golden Rule", the second most important commandment given to men on Earth, ... "Love thy neighbour as thyself..." Those mocking God, Jesus, and Christians these days are in for a nasty and rude awakening. It is not that we are unable to snuff out their pitiful, anti-Christ lives in a mere moment... it IS THAT GOD PROHIBITS US FROM EXERCISING OUR ABILITIES IN THAT WAY. God says that vengeance IS HIS DOMAIN, and that He will repay. Anti-Hip is talking through the proverbial hat in ignorance of the knowledge of God, and His laws.
To be perfectly clear: Anti-Hip's statement (that ..."Reliance on "the creator" is humans' unwillingness to confront the reality we continue to uncover.") is patently false and foolish. We are not allowed, by the Word of God, to do what the haters of God do, it is not that we are unwilling. Many of us would like nothing better to show the evil grave dancers some harsh reality, but again, we are not allowed. God, our Creator, has that covered. It is one of the methods used by God to separate those who love Him from those who love evil, and He will indeed repay.
What is coming is prophesied to be the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the earth. So Jesus comes back, and burns the Earth, along with all the haters of Charlie Kirk, haters of God, haters of Jesus, and haters of those who rely on our Creator. We were instructed by the One who created us, to trust and rely upon our Creator.
There is nothing that demonstrates Scripture is real, that is, the voice of an invisible, magical, omniscient, anthropomorphic creature, as opposed to human authorship. ZERO. There is nothing it describes that distinguishes it from shared hallucinations. ZERO. Instead, there is within the "Futility of Trying to Reason With Lunatics".
I am calling you out on your false, pedestrian statement, Anti-Hip, you were saying...
"There is nothing that demonstrates Scripture is real", (end quote).
... It is abundantly clear that you have Not studied the Scriptures, Anthropology, Archeology, or History. Please, don't embarrass yourself with further comments demonstrating your ignorance of God's word. It is easy to determine your lack of knowledge in this area just by reading your words. Here is a simple, Google AI Overview summary of a real cold case detective's findings about evidence that shows the veracity of Scripture:
"Yes, the author of Cold-Case Christianity, J. Warner Wallace, is a former cold-case detective who argues for the reliability and validity of Scripture by applying his investigative techniques to the historical claims of the Gospels. He analyzes eyewitness testimony, checks for corroboration, and evaluates potential motives using established rules of evidence from criminal investigations, concluding that the evidence for the New Testament is compelling..."
I would recommend you hold your peace on this one Anti-Hip. Please, study more, philosophize less... for now.
Thanks for your comment constituting a mini book review of this book. I am persuaded by the internal coherence and consistency of The Bible. Lately, I have been exposed to arguments based on more external evidence which compare Islam/The Koran with Christianity/The Bible, specifically comparing how the growing discoveries in various disciplines of history, archeology etc have been accumulating more solid ground for The Bible while results from the same fields of study have been rather devastating to Islam. I do want to learn more about this.
I have spent many decades confronted by godmongering, and one of the most curious things I've about them is their predictions for pointing to *other* places where the supposed knowledge lies. They can never explain it themselves. I used to go to these other places (usually Bible passages), and Ive found that, frankly, if you don't already have stars in your eyes, they are either pedestrian or ambiguous gibberish.
This inability to transfer their supposed knowledge to a skeptic is a death blow to their persuasive ability to skeptics. In other words, the only people they are going to "persuade" are people who *already* have the same beliefs, or have some subconscious tendency to want to believe. So much for spreading "the good news".
Look, if your God was *actually* all-powerful, all-knowing, *and* all-loving, he'd never be having humans run this ridiculous gauntlet. We'd all be endowed with the ability and temperament to understand and believe in him, and live in peace happily ever after. But we don't, and the explanations for this I've found are beyond lame. Yes, the Bible is full of idiocies and contradictions. Give it up, and admit it's not rational.
Problem is, and the reason I'm bitching about it here, is that we are *woefully* unprepared to confront what's coming down the pike at us from unprecedented forces if large numbers of us continue to believe it's a biblical battle of good and evil.
I'm curious about you, Anti-Hip. You seem to sense intuitively that there is unprecedented trouble coming, which I agree with, and believe, based upon my own knowledge of Scripture, history, and current events. Yet, you claim to NOT UNDERSTAND the Bible, saying it is full of "idiocies and contradictions"... a statement which is entirely untrue. Either you have been deceived greatly by someone, or have not studied the Bible. Based upon your statements, which indicate you have not studied the Bible, It leads me to guess that you were abused, treated badly by someone who told you they were a Christian, and told you they knew what they were talking about. They obviously failed to convince you, the great skeptic.
There are two possibilities for this that I can see clearly... One is that you hate them so much, that you will never confess what they told you to be true. The other possibility is that you are the seed of Satan, to whom understanding of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven is never given. The wicked will never understand.
There is a third possibility... that BECAUSE you are skeptical, unbelieving and full of doubt, God will not grant you understanding.
To receive understanding, you must ask God for it, doubting nothing. Doubters do not get their prayers answered, Anti-Hip.
Obviously, it is wrong to blame God for your own failure to understand. He says you have to ask Him for understanding.
The Bible is very understandable... but you also must study to show thyself approved. God tests the spirits in people, as He also instructs us to test the spirits. Some are evil, wicked and hurtful, others, when tested, prove to be filled with light, love, and kindness.
I am willing to address any contradictions you can find in the Bible, honestly, clearly, and without ambiguity, if you would like. Just name them, one by one.
Creation was corrupted a long time ago, Anti-Hip, and God has to fix it. So, He allows people to commit heresy, greed, malice, mockery, and all sorts of things, for the purpose of determining who loves Him. He said, that by following His commandments, doing them without question and without hesitation, that He knows who loves Him. That information becomes totally relevant on judgement day.
I would hazard a guess here, Anti-Hip, that the reason we are having this discussion is because Jesus is calling you, giving you one last chance to get right with God. The end is near, pray today for Jesus to save you from what you know is coming. I write to you in the name of Jesus, without whom nothing was made that is made. Do it while it is called TODAY. You were created by God, not monkey semen. It is wrong to deny God's great work.
Oh, my. I beg you to go get educated. You are doing a disservice to yourself. Coming off as a dunce with no intellect or experience. When you set out to trash the views of others, you darn well better know what you are talking about... instead of coming off like an acne ridden high school freshman. Please, do not so discredit yourself.
As I pointed out earlier, an ACTUAL all-powerful, all-knowing AND all-loving God would not do any of the ridiculous things we see, ESPECIALLY the things godmongers say and do. THE DESCRIPTION OF GOD IN SCRIPTURE IS NECESSARILY FALSE, and had to have been based on the all-too-human writers of the Bible, who did the best they could to manage society without infinite time or words.
Everything else is absurd rationalization. And all you do is tell me nothing of substance, but to go read, little boy, and don't come back until you've swallowed it like Sybil, till it's leaking out of your ass.
The Bible describes God's creation of the world, all that is in it, and the devil's ploy at disrupting God's creation. God provided opportunities to His people to reform from the evil they bought into, but they, like you, turned their backs on God. So He punished them, over and again, yet they insisted upon despising God. Sound familiar Anti-Hip? God is easy to understand, if you are a parent, which God is... we were created in the image of God, and He says He is our Father. DNA is now known to differ slightly in every human... God says He knows how many hairs are on your head, and your thoughts, and everything about you. He would not be wasting my time trying to reach you, if He did not love you. Any Father wants His children to love him back... that's perfectly normal. It is not normal to hate your Father. Satan loves to cause divisions, and specializes in causing divisions. It is critically important to understand that God creates good AND evil... He creates everything, and uses evil men to accomplish things like judgement. That is why we are having so much trouble in the world... it is because many folks have denied God, and He is allowing the evil to happen for the purpose of punishing unbelievers. You, Anti-Hip, are actually helping the evil people by denying God, unwittingly becoming part of the current problem, and part of the answer to the problem of how to deal with that evil. God destroys the world again, this time by fire. Previously, the Earth was destroyed by water. The evidence is incontrovertible. I am a licensed Prospector, well acquainted with Geology, and can attest that all of the current formations on Earth were formed or changed by the Flood. God destroyed the unbelievers without mercy, as a potter would break all his lousy pottery and start over again. Evil corrupted the seed of man, and God had to fix it. Well, it's been done again, Anti-Hip, and God has to fix it. The Bible describes how and why, clearly.
I'm trashing the shit that, in my life, has been shoved down my throat since day 1. In my old age, regarding having to forever confront this crap, I apologize for NOTHING. At a VERY young age I lived in TERROR of going to hell. So you can take all this contempt you have for me, and shove it back up your ass, so far and fast your teeth go flying. Capice?
Now we are getting somewhere.
At an early age you were abused or felt abused by those that placed you in terror, in great fear, that you were going to suffer a place they described as hell. That is horrible.
Traumatizing kids with belief is way out of bounds and has nothing to do with the faith. Who were the people who did this to you? (I do not believe it was anyone on this thread, and it was not I. So no need to swear at us or make accusations.)
And to clarify, I do not have contempt for you. But I am calling you out for inappropriately addressing others.
Whoever abused you did great harm. They closed doors that you may have otherwise wanted to open and investigate. That is sad, and perhaps there is nothing to be done about that. However, misdirecting your upset toward those who had nothing to do with your situation is not cool.
I would have a civil conversation with you, but I fear your hurt and anger prevent that outcome. You might find I know more about what is wrong with certain approaches to faith, bad theology, if you will. But I cannot even get to that if you are cursing and accusing. First we need to address what happened to you.
The Bible was shoved down your throat? No wonder you hate whoever was your mentor. Does forcing the truth on you make the truth a lie? No, clearly, but why were you needing to be forced... were you that stubborn and intransigent that you could not be taught without threats? Or, was your abuser not actually a Christian? Hell is real, and there are also charlatans who prey on young people. Satan is to blame, not God, and certainly not the truth.
That one needs to be *educated* about (the Abrahamic) God *in order to* to believe in him is more than sufficient proof that he doesn't exist. To convince we instead chase after your pointers above (links, of whatever kind), I ask you then to first point me to, from classical philosophy, who successfully refutes what I just said above in this post. If successful, *then* I will read your other pointers. Barring that, forget it.
The Bible says we are to pay no heed to the philosophy of men. Classical philosophy is a dead end trap for the mind that was created by God, to serve Him, not to serve the creation more than the Creator. "Ask, and it shall be given, seek, and ye shall find"... those words are meant for you, Anti-Hip, spoken by Jesus. God has no respect for sluggards who are too lazy to seek His counsel, and doubters can expect nothing from God. Fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of knowledge, Anti-Hip. Wisdom is impossible to attain without knowledge, and true knowledge cannot be realized without confessing God. You have boxed yourself into a proverbial corner, speaking without wisdom. The people that hate God are practicing fake knowledge, producing fake news, fake history, fake philosophy, fake vaccines, fake food, fake culture... fake everything. Jesus said... "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by me". He said that because He was given all the power of God, among men, to save His people. There are people that are not the children of God... they are evil, and will not be saved. Evil is what our battle is against. Evil is all that is not true.
"GOD PROHIBITS US". God prohibits nothing. Because he's not there, he's only in your heads. That's why everyone's out there killing, if you hadn't noticed.
Answer this question, intelligently, honestly, and please, without ambiguity, Anti-Hip. were you created by God, or did you come from the spawn of a monkey? You obviously deny God, so who were your ancestors? And who were their ancestors? If God did not create you, the great skeptic, how are you here today, in this world, denying that evil exists? Do monkeys also deny God?
I pledge to answer this, but not until Monday evening EDT. My time will be occupied until then. Thank you.
"were you created by God, or did you come from the spawn of a monkey?"
(1) (Note, the two clauses are not contradictory, so both could be assigned 'true', i.e. inclusive 'or'.)
(2) (Note, I do not know either. In fact, I know nothing; I only believe. I believe that is true of all humans.)
(3) I believe evolution (broadly speaking) provides the most comprehensive and plausible of source explanations. There are many recognized gaps in evolution theories, and there are many failures in current evolution theories yet to be uncovered, but that doesn't diminish my first claim a whit, as there is no other class of explanations that do better or even approach it.
(4) I believe "created by God" simply avoids answering the question, and, at least in my experience, doesn't even attempt to bridge the gap for skeptics by meeting them where they are at. So I believe the insult is best ignored rather than entertained.
(5) "who were your [ancient(?)] ancestors? And who were their ancestors? If God did not create you, the great skeptic, how are you here today, in this world, denying that evil exists? ... Do monkeys also deny God?" I don't know, and I don't worry about any of those things, because they are much less interesting to me than a great many other questions. In particular (for its relevance here), a proof of God's existence that works on skeptics. Because it seems to me the point of evangelizing.
Hope that helps.
Your reply helps alright... it helps me to understand that you are a 'bloviator'. I asked the questions of you for the purpose of determining what you believe. It is evident that you actually believe nothing, which you've defended preemptively by retreating behind "I do not know"... Well, if you do not know, then you should remain silent about commenting on God. Despising "god-mongers" is seemingly good sport to you, but the problem it that doing so delineates your true ignorance.
I can tell you definitively, ANTI-HIP, that you did not form from the spawn of a monkey. You were created by God. You have unique DNA, there is no one in the world that has identical DNA to yours... therefore, you are special to God.
Obviously, the Holy Spirit of God has moved me to tolerate your disbelief in God, probably for one last chance to accept the FACT that everyone dies, but some have everlasting life.
You have a choice... continue to deny your Creator, and go to eternal death in hell, or choose life, and accept that Jesus was in fact murdered on the cross by other unbelievers, to pay the price of your redemption.
The answer you provide to my previous questions are unacceptable, and evidence of your intransigence. I have no interest whatsoever in playing juvenile word games, ANTI-HIP, and I see that you prefer to trust lies rather than truth. ( You mentioned you are leaning toward evolution rather than Creation).
Have you heard of 'Irreducible Complexity'? Essentially, with the advent of super microscopes, it is possible to see deeply into the innermost workings of the human cells. It is found that the ATP cycle is dependent upon three or four fundamental components, lacking which, there cannot be life.
The design is obvious, it is like a factory, producing energy, and without even one of the components, evolution CANNOT happen. The argument is that without this cycle, life cannot exist. Without life, evolution is impossible. Therefore, creation is the only possibility for the origins of life. Darwin, in his work, did not address this issue, nor did he know anything about DNA.
Darwin was a fraud. Not the only one, there are many these days, and we are warned, by the word of God, to be mindful of them. Most "fact-checkers" actually are paid to spin the truth, and were popularized during the Covid Fraud.
The point of all this of course, is to determine if you are justified in denying God, mocking believers, and supporting fraudulent theories.
I will leave you at this juncture to engage in some self-examination, to consider whether you are intellectually honest, or not. (Your last reply was considered to be disingenuous.) If there was in fact Creation, then there is a Creator. If there is a Creator, He made you, and myself, and all others, all things, and is all powerful, all knowing... yet you question His methods in allowing evil to propagate, for example. The Bible explains that God uses evil men to accomplish His will, as well as good men, to accomplish His will. He also gives us a choice to love Him, or despise Him, and treats us accordingly, as per His 'Golden Rule". How do you wish to be treated, ANTI-HIP... ? He also will judge us accordingly... just as your 'abuser' tried to warn you years ago, "shoving the truth down your throat". I write to you in Jesus' precious name, who obviously is calling you. He loves you, and does not want you to lose out on eternal life with Him through intransigent, pig-headed stubbornness on your part. Pray to God, in Jesus name, and ask for understanding. Seek, and ye shall find, ask, and it shall be given".
WTF
You don't understand? Along with, at this point, seven others?
Holy crap!! You don't have to be a "godmonger" as you call it to know that evil exists and some people chose to commit evil acts. When you begin to call evil for what it is, evil, then you will be able to meet and defeat it.
Well you if you don’t like the word evil you can pick another descriptor. Regardless of the descriptor you know that what happened was horrible, deplorable, wrong, etc. “Evil” is self evident but I would agree that it’s not any one’s individual opinion that determines what is evil, as all of our opinions carry the same weight. For evil to be recognized there has to be transcendent standards outside of us where good, holiness, righteousness, is displayed. That certainly is not modeled by us as human beings. Ask yourself why did the assassination of Kirk not turn into burning cities to the ground but instead to prayer vigils? Because the people who loved Charlie are different. Why? That 2000 year old book has been around a really long time I would say. Must be something really unique about it. It has more manuscripts to determine its authenticity than any of the classics. And I would say that its message transforms lives. As humans, with our hubris, who have only been around say a few decades probably should humble ourselves and perhaps learn from that book. It actually says that it is a fool who says there is no God.
"It has more manuscripts to determine its authenticity than any of the classics."
Well, I understand may have more copies, I don't see how copies determine authenticity. Aren't the oldest known copies (of New Testament, anyway) tiny fragments, and decades after the events it describes?
Also I understand has quite limited cross-references between alien texts (e.g. contemporary Roman historians talking about Jesus). That would seem to be very important to have confirming evidence.
If the Old Testament that tells us the Jews will inherit the Earth had appeared, after being planted by God, of course, simultaneously in, but uncovered in archeology digs in, say, present-day Chile, Australia, China, etc. that would be pretty good evidence that Jews were chosen by God to do so. Oddly, though, this document appointing Jews was given to the world by, well ... Jews. Hmmm. I think "I'm stupid, but I'm not that stupid" kind of gets at that.
No, when you begin to identify the very varied causes for anti-social behavior, *then* you will be able to meet it and defeat it. If you call everything "evil" that does not meet with your approval, or with the "approval" of the two-thousand year old book, then you will dig yourselves deeper.
Curious. Do you believe Charlie’s murder was evil?
You seem to have missed some basic concepts regarding Reality. Your arguments, if you want to call them that, are weak and paper thin. Best you go prepare for dialogue and conversation. It works better that way.
Could you "wow" me with some of the most incredible words of God regarding reality? The best of them shouldn't be hard to find, shouldn't they win me over?
Do you instead say I must *want* to seek God first? Well, seems to me the problem with having to want to *seek* God before finding *evidence* of God has it's own corrupting factor... What is to be done with it?
The incredible words of God are found in the Bible, ANTI-HIP, and are there for all who desire a relationship with God. It is the Holy Spirit that brings you to Jesus, not us, we are only the willing messengers. We were "wowed" by the words of God, believed them, and are saved from what is coming. You, on the other hand, are resisting the efforts of the Holy Spirit to reconcile you with God through the shed blood of Jesus. It is Jesus only that brings you back to God. The Bible explains all of this, in great detail. It is apparent to me that Jesus is calling you, but you are resisting, to your own hurt. Open the door, ANTI-HIP, and let Him in... time is short. Again, we are only the messengers... we are obedient to God's instructions... He tells us to share the gospel, Matt. 28: "The Great Commission"... we are to teach men from every nation to obey all that God commanded, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If everyone did what God asked of us, we would not be facing the trouble in the world we see today. Please, be part of the solution, instead of being part of the problem.
I would be happy to answer your question. I'm exhausted tonight. Will respond in the AM. Have a pleasant evening.
Well, genius, why don't you drop a few hints? You'd like to actually *persuade* me to follow your suggestions, right?
What reality do we (who is we) continue to uncover?
I mean the sum total of what humanity has discovered, thought, shared, agreed, and left for posterity, in all dimensions (science, spirituality, etc.).
In the absolute, complete knowledge of the external, of any kind, must be recognized as unattainable; a human would have to be one with the object for it to be otherwise. Instead, everything is perception and belief.
A big mistake is to call what that which is wickedness, "sickness" or "Pathology" or "crazy". When you do that, you give some cover to evil. Yes evil is a real thing.
Also God has said. " And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.." Jerimiah 29:13. That is a promise.
No, "evil" is a moral term that explains nothing about what is fully going on inside the person. Nothing. For example, there are intelligent psychopaths who *care* nothing for people, and there are certain neurodiverse who can *read* nothing about people, who are poles apart from each other.
Ah, you are badly miseducated and are using faulty academic nonsense. Please get yourself educated and ready to debate and enjoy conversation. Sophomoric psychology goes nowhere.
What you are describing is what Frederick Nietzsche (and others before him) described as the "God is dead" paradoxical position that people such as yourself have placed much of Western society into. It should be clear as we watch the ongoing collapse of our population, our nations (debt, crime, famine, deadly injections) and soon the environment as we press toward world war 3 for some bankers' scheme to grapple with an enormous global debt that it isn't my God that is dead, it is yours. It isn't the children of my God that cheered on Charlie Kirk's death.
Incoherent. Really. It would be better to prepare for dialogue rather than to enter uneducated. People will tend to be nice and accommodating at first, but then will cease to put up with faulty reason and sophomoric accusations.
You don't meet at my own own allegedly ignorant and the unjustified level. That's proof enough you don't even know how communicate as your "Savior" would to the unworthy.
Basically, sin makes you stupid!
I have observed the truth of this passage as I have seen it unfolding all around me over the last 5 years, maybe even longer.
John, my thoughts precisely for some time: Just look at the Madmen who have sway over us: Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Altman, Fauci, the infintile Presidents from Clinton on, primitive, infintile, destabilized souls, and of course I have always thought feminism, and the swath of cultural devastation it has inflicted is due to harpy harradans disabling the natural order of life.
It started with the Clintons got worse with Bush {9/11} and went full speed ahead with Obama {Bill Ayers, Rev White} and all his cabinet members. You could see where we were headed with the Obama-Biden Presidency.
Well said Peter. Many of us have seen this coming since Free Love and drugs entered the scene. Terrifying times. I only hope it is not too late
It's just in time!😇
You say Clinton on? I would say bush on and possibly back a bit more- bush was cia when jfk was murdered. This is why we didn’t see all the info. Back then. Our destruction started at least with bush and 9/11- we should have done more.
https://emburlingame.substack.com/p/the-pathocracy-that-owns-us
Not Madmen, Downpressor men Turn up the volume and listen to Peter Tosh sing about the destiny of those men and many more. "I wouldn't like to be a flea under your collar, on that day," https://youtu.be/zjoE6MiuQUM
Demonic possession is often mistaken for mental illness, and is in many cases a better explanation. Even John himself uses the term “possession“ to describe what he sees, though he frames it in psychological rather than spiritual terms.
But what we’re seeing isn’t sickness, it’s evil. The people celebrating Charlie’s murder relish in its gore precisely because they want to bathe themselves in depravity. It’s not that they don’t care about evil, it’s that they revel in it. They are consumed with bloodlust, salivating over the anticipation of their next kill.
We’re not going to address this problem properly if we continue using half measures. We need to stop framing sin as sickness. This is not curable with a pill or a therapist. Some of these people are, of course, indoctrinated and could conceivably be deprogrammed, but the depth of evil we are witnessing is something far beyond the reach of psychology and psychiatry. The kind of salvation that’s needed here is offered only by Jesus Christ.
As I took the time to reflect on this reply, I realized I needed to clarify a few things:
1. The evil we're witnessing may be unique to our experience, but it's by no means unique to the human experience. In fact, it's arguably closer to the rule than the exception.
2. I don't want to over-diagnose possession. There is surely plenty of blame to go around given the compounding effects of such things as youthful ignorance and arrogance, the impact of psychiatric drugs, the indoctrination in schools, etc.
3. This piece is well thought-out and deserved more respect than my stream-of-consciousness reply. Apologies to John, who could easily have eviscerated me but chose not to. Thank you.
What I did mean to say was that our modern view of reality rejects the spiritual realm and thus is forced to fit everything it observes into the mould of materialism. Spiritual activity, whether good or evil, must ultimately be explained by forces that can handled, quantified, and comprehended.
As a Christian, I reject that as nothing more than an atheist fantasy designed to muzzle a screaming conscience. Communing with spirits/demons has been a staple of various cultures and many religions throughout history, and if we accept the spiritual realm as part of reality (indeed, it is the ultimate reality), then we cannot write off its effect on this world.
Is every leftist inhabited by demons? Of course not. I even chuckled while writing that because it's ridiculous, but leftism is a regimented ideology in which the beliefs of those at the bottom are determined by the influence and diktats of those at the top. If certain key players dabbled in the occult, that would be enough to at least exert demonic influence over millions worldwide.
But we can plainly see that many leftist foot soldiers so hate God and all things derived from Him that they would openly welcome demonic possession. How widespread it is, I can't possibly say, but I'm firmly convinced that it's in the driver's seat.
I hope that sufficiently clarifies my clunky post from earlier. Thanks for bearing with me.
By their fruits ye shall know them!😎
If it harms, it's wrong and evil!
Helping the addicted and insane by supplementing them with things that promote their condition is not compassionate, it's evil!👿😱🙏🏼😇
Mark 5 provides such an excellent discussion of this point. You have quite accurately assessed the situation.
...Across the entirety of the Anglosphere—from the municipal councils of England to the federal apparatus of Canada, from the academic halls of Australia to the non-profit complex of the United States—a single, grim reality prevails. The levers of power are manned by individuals dominated by Cluster A, B, and C personality disorders. This is not a metaphor; it's a clinical diagnosis of the vast majority of our rulers and their vast managerial puppet class...
https://emburlingame.substack.com/p/the-pathocracy-that-owns-us
Well Said. Exactly right. Open your eyes people. Read that again.
What you are describing is what occured in the French revolution and then the Russian, Chinese, Vietnam, Cambodian communist revolutions. Increasing levels of blood lust and no clear exit ramp how to escape the downward trajectory—worship of total power through terror and murder.
You are 100% correct, flesh and blood did not reveal that to you....
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You are correct and if you dig deeper, you find that many of these people are on psychotropic meds. It seems that those in power want to put our society to sleep with psychotropic meds, ketamine, cannabis and psychedelics. I suppose if everyone is asleep, they won't notice the absolute evil that surrounds us.
Yes!!! SSRI over medication is creating an army of emotionless beings who are blunted when it comes to compassion and empathy.
SSRI are showing to make people psychotic actually and the medical professionals and big pharma are happy to dispense.
Evil is as evil does!😎
🎯
It has also been noted in some studies that the shots that most people got over the past 5 years has had a cognitive affect on the minds of many people. It is also noted that most young people got the shot because they were mandated to receive it for school attendance and for work. Could this be the reason behind some of this madness?
Italian scientists/pathologists upon dissecting the brains of the "vaxxed" have found that their pineal glands were completely destroyed. I believe that Arne Buchardt...a German pathologist also made a similar observation I wrote to a pathologist in Idaho who has been doing autopsies on the "vaxxed" about the Italian discovery....but received no reply from him....Oh well.
Some scientists and others believe our pineal glands have. as one possible function, the ability to connect us with the unseen spiritual world. Who knows?
Yes. Edgar Cayce a renowned clairvoyant spoke about the pineal gland being a connection to our higher consciousness. Many recent studies also consider that even the "unvaxed' have been harmed by shedding. We are certainly in a spiritual war so we need to be aware and awake.
Part of the Plan!😱
When under the influence of mind altering drugs we lose control of our minds, and therefore our behaviors to varying degrees. Mind altering drugs have been used for millenia as a means of piercing the thin veil that separates the material and spirit worlds, by Shamans, Oracles, and medicine men. These drugs are gateways for demons.
Thank You Elizabeth!😇
I think these “jabs” are more insidious than we can speculate. I didn’t know about its purported effect on the pineal gland. However, it makes sense. The pineal gland is so powerful and maybe our lifestyle our lifestyle is truly affecting it, causing calcification and atrophy. I often wonder how much of the devastation we’re seeing mentally, spiritually and physically is a result of a concerted effort to destroy the masses. The vast majority know nothing about our reality and don’t care because they are worshipping at the altar of humanism, not God.
Agree whole heartedly John. Just read Dr Malone’s substack this AM and I believe he is right on. This is not just lunacy but lunacy combined with a targeted effort by militant well funded organizations whose goal is to ruin America and all we stand for. This shooter was simply one of many they are grooming and preparing. And the deranged mentally ill who are intelligent are especially dangerous. We are in dark times.
Right. The targeted effort (conspiracy with much of it by Marxist design) amounts to a boot camp for their useful idiot soldiers (human resources/only valued for their utility and exploited) as they rise to power. Kirk was powerful in opening up the minds of the vulnerable to truth and self-awareness/knowledge. In his death, he now rallies more forces to oppose their evil designs.
both the communist left and Islam work on youth to weaponize them towards authoritarian revolutionary and mindless zeal. Funny though that communists can only promise power without any clear reward while Islam dangles power, rewards and unlimited sexual slaves in front of their subjects.
And the deranged mentally ill who are intelligent are especially dangerous, because they are recruited and elevated in the matrix of global control...
... Across the entirety of the Anglosphere—from the municipal councils of England to the federal apparatus of Canada, from the academic halls of Australia to the non-profit complex of the United States—a single, grim reality prevails. The levers of power are manned by individuals dominated by Cluster A, B, and C personality disorders. This is not a metaphor; it's a clinical diagnosis of the vast majority of our rulers and their vast managerial puppet class...
https://emburlingame.substack.com/p/the-pathocracy-that-owns-us
Please contribute information to this data base.
expose@charliesmurderers.com
"At least some people are making a database showing the names and workplaces of all those who condone this violence."
This refers to the website charliesmurderers.com, where users submit and compile data on individuals publicly celebrating or condoning the assassination (framed as political violence or civil unrest in the context of the event). The database is intended to be searchable by location, employer, and industry to facilitate exposure, accountability, and potential consequences like job loss.
X post from @alty5745 (American Roots) the database: https://x.com/alty5745/status/1966763820845609000
The database itself is hosted at https://www.charliesmurderers.com/, where submissions are being collected on individuals condoning or celebrating the violence related to Charlie Kirk's assassination, with plans to make it searchable by location, employer, and industry. As of this morning, it had received nearly 20,000 submissions.
People need to be held accountable for their behavior. Regardless of which religion anyone should subscribe to, not one of them (to my knowledge) promotes hate speach to the extent of celebrating the assassination of a human being. How did we allow our collective society to become so soul-less?
We are all fallen...some further than others!
Pray without ceasing...give thanks for God's mercy and patience.
Do your best to listen and discern the small still voice of Love which surrounds us all if only we acknowledge and embrace it....struggling like most...🙏🏼😇😎
The Dems in Congress wouldn't even give a moment of silence. They are despicable.
Hope Hegseth has someone scrolling here and taking notes.
This is great to see. Expose the evil.
Only when evil is drawn into the light can it be defeated.....
As it turns out…just as 7 other recent killings…although not high profile…
…it’s now come out that Tyler Robinson was living with a trans person. (This explains the messages on the shell casings)
Brooke Singman @BrookeSingman
X.com
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.
The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.
Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.
11:38 AM • 9/13/25
Is this legal?
Good question. And how long before databases like this one are used against us, I wonder? As far as I know, even the mentally ill and soul-less are protected by the first amendment. And I am referring to the use of words, not acts of violence, just to be clear.
Aren't such databases already used against us?
And I suppose it must be legal, Amendment01. If it could be prohibited, the prohibition would be used against us also.
TRUTH: Inverted, subverted and perverted but ultimately unchanged!
What is True?
What is Right IS True!
What is Right?
Anything that's not Wrong.
What's Wrong? Anything evil!
Anything that harms... or supports, encourages, subsidizes or promotes harm is evil.
Giving addicts paraphernalia is Harmful/evil.
Giving dangerous psychotic-inducing drugs to the distressed is Harmful/evil.
Open borders and lawlessness is Wrong/evil because of the harm to everyone involved including the invaded.
Soft on crime is Wrong/evil for obvious reasons, etc.
What is Right, is True!😇
What is Wrong, is evil!👿
Pray without ceasing...every breath can be a prayerful action!😎
We all have a 'social credit score' so remain calm and pray without ceasing!🙏🏼
Anything can be made 'legal'.
Lawful is incorruptible at its core but can be shadow-banned and twisted.
See: Legal vs Lawful...horrifying what has been done to control us!😱
Yes.
I e-mailed Melania.
Most depressing are the lunatics have total control over the mainstream media and our colleges and universities. We are also faced with the sad reality our government and the medical community are also seriously infected with deranged lemming lunatics.
Some are deceived and some are evil. This is not mental illness.
A problem we have, however, is that mental health education from psychiatrists to psychologists ro mental health nurses is shaped solely via the so-called "scientist-practitioner" model which is based on naturalism aka scientific materialism. There is no soul or spirit in this model, no objective truth or morality to guide behaviour. There is just "normal" and "abnormal" psychology as decided ultimately by some "panel of experts" (DSM) or by so-called "community standards". This further leads to radical expressive individualism and ultimately to extreme and rampant radical subjectivism.
"Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold, mere anarchy is loosed upon the world". It appears we have just about arrived.
Excellent comment Duncan and so true, and this is what I have always thought since I first came across the field of behavioral psychology.
How can there be any doubt that the legacy media and many, many elected officials from Congress on down to local school boards are obviously mentally ill? They are eager to approve and/or justify any evil. They are pro-psychopathic killers. They are pro-the destruction of our society. Any element of common decency is absent, as is reason. Ten minutes of ABC news or listening to the likes of Ilhan Omar or Chris Van Hollen are all you need to understand this.
I forgot to mention specifically the Fairfax County, VA school board, and ditto Loudon County VA school board.
Thank you John (and Carl Jung) so much for this sobering piece.
I remain so broken hearted, confused and distraught for his family and our nation, especially the youth, at this heinous cowardly act and the subsequent jubilation from so many. Of all the people to assassinate, this monster chose the one man who always sought civil discourse. What not sign up to ask him your question? Instead this coward just murdered him to shut him up. Here is what I am experiencing, and it makes me physically sick and uncertain how to proceed.
Many of my lifelong friends and family still believe the vax is "safe and effective"- need I say more? This same bunch NEVER mentioned the attempted assassinations on President Trump. I knew they were thrilled. I now cannot even mention the Charlie Kirk tragedy, which is so on my heart and mind, because I fear they will come out with some asinine demonic comment and I simply cannot take hearing it.
YET, I do continue to walk the thin sad line of trying to keep lifelong friends and family close. and connected. I am part of a huge network of family and friends and I am unwilling to become a bitter island. But to do this I must self censor which is horrible and unlike me. BUT I am desperate to see my precious grandchildren.
But it is so hard to witness what is happening to our culture and to people I thought I knew.
The things Charlie advocated and supported are the very ideals I grew up with and most others of the 1940s. 1950s and even the 60s- family, faith in God, commitment, civil discourse, striving to do your best, love and acceptance....it all seems gone now. Thanks for this troubling but true piece.
Trying Hard, You speak for me. I only wish to add that I share with you the heartbreaking dilemma of jeopardizing our relationship with our grandchildren. This is the cruelest choice.
May God help all of us in this position.
Yes...I am in that position. I consciously CHOSE to sacrifice my relationships with them because that is the only way I could show my love in this horrible dilemma. It was planned thus. The parents got "jabbed" so they could still earn and the grandparents so they were not jettisoned from the family. I decided for vocal dissonance and dispassionate rejection of the entire fraud. So the obvious occurred. I have not seen one daughter or her two sons for over two years. So be it. I do not consent. But thankfully--that is a small price in the larger picture. My conscience is clear. I am saddened for what was done to them. There was no pandemic as most now know.
Every adult in my family--jabbed except myself. Horrifying to realize this was long planned and they were simply tricked and terrorized into it...there was no "pandemic"...so the jab is totally unrelated to health. Analysts have stated there were about 2O different versions....some extremely toxic and others harmless. Created to cause "cognitive dissonance" and distrust among the survivors while actually killing and injuring many. Look at all the doctors and nurses who perished in one are of Canada...documented by Dr. William Makis of covidintel...I think it was close to a 1OO or more in one small area. In others the damage is longterm. I refused it...but every single night I hear my jabbed husband moaning and struggling in his sleep. In the past he never did that. He has acquired guillaine barre syndrome and has trouble holding his silverware. He believes this is just the result of aging....There is no proof one way or another. Others in our apartment complex got cancer or had strokes or simply died. There was no "pandemic"...so the point of this injection was malevolent harm. There is no other explanation. Were Trump and Biden in on this attack? It would appear so....Now this toxic "vaccine" is being injected into infants and small children....Some say the european royals were injected as well. I have my doubts on that. I remember Pricilla Presley made a video and did a song about her "vaccination. I think she died. Not sure on that....How amazing that this untested product had no ingredient list so no one even knows the contents. Researcher Craig Paardekooper in the UK has stated there were about 2O versions. Reiner Fuellmich--a renowned tort attorney who presided over high profile fraud cases in the past-- was coordinating a wide area analysis of the "jab" when he was "arrested" for tax fraud and illegally deported to a German prison...where he remains to this day.
from a dissident psychiatrist (worthy of a follow/subscription):
The Assassination Game
the murder of Charlie Kirk and what it means
https://newzealanddoc.substack.com/p/the-assassination-game
This is what happens when we live by "Do what thou wilt." Don't know where that comes from? The Satanist cult. When we live for Christ, we have "Not my will, but Thine be done."
Matthew 5:43-48 KJV
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? [47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? [48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.5.43-48.KJV
Demon possession does not require the person’s head to rotate 360 degrees and vomiting green pea soup. Satanists are not crazy, they’re just evil. Mass hypnosis of the vulnerable is occurring on college campuses and now down to the grade school level with the constant barrage of woke ideology and hate for this country and its values and a hatred for conservatism and God. We need to “put on the whole armor of God, “ that we “may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph 6:11-12). The verses go on to describe that armor, consisting of representations of truth, righteousness, preparation of the gospel of peace, faith, salvation, the Spirit which is the word of God. We must be prepared for this spiritual war.
The world is filled with demons and they are showing their faces now! Satan is rejoicing, He thinks he has won this battle! I hope they continue to do so, when they hide in the shadows, they are hard to discern. Speak the name of Jesus who overcame death and promises eternal life. Nothing makes Satan madder! I want him furious!
I am a frequent and harsh critic of eugenicists. Often citing Buck v. Bell, the notorious "Three generations of imbeciles is enough" 8-1 SCOTUS ruling a century ago. Raised as a thought-provoking defense at the Nuremberg Trials, "you said it was good policy, what's the big deal?"
In many ways what you describe would support the words of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. But there is more to it. It was under that premise that the 'asocials' were targeted by the Third Reich in the eugenics cleansing of Germany and Europe. Incarcerated, experimented on and 'euthanized,' i.e. mass murdered.
And what qualified as 'asocial?' Political opponents of the regime. The disobedient and insolent. The profane and defiant. A Charlie Kirk would be deemed 'asocial' for challenging authority, official narratives, even in the mildest of ways, just the same as his transtifa haters spewing toxic filth.
The problem with eugenics, the practice of 'fixing' the gene pool for public safety and harmony is who gets to decide the desirables vs the undesirables? And as with most things, wealth, power, connections become the largest determinant. A psychopathic sociopathic billionaire or others in high positions will never become a target to 'cleanse.' No matter how 'asocial' they are. I.e. the Jasmine Crockett's: offensive, profane, insolent...and wealthy, powerful. Those who would kill millions would never be deemed 'asocial' while those who would merely be offensive in speech and manner could be jailed or executed.
So this is a debate over perilous underpinnings of our society and our humanity. I don't have a clear answer, only a heightened sensitivity to it based on a fair amount of reading human history, psychology, law, philosophy, ethics and power dynamics. Tread carefully.
Good point, but being particularly pugnacious and unable to reason can be a sign of an unsound mind, of reduced capacity to make judgments, if not decisions.
True. Demonstrably. The question is what is to be done with that?
What Charlie did well was try to find a connection with that unsound mind and help it reorganize into sounder judgements.
This will work for many. Most we see is the result of conditioning, not genetics. The nurture v. nature debate. The number of genetically suspect minds is blessedly small. The number of environmentally polluted minds is tragically large.
We have some industrial polluters pumping filth into our most precious natural resource. It's the sources of pollution that we must clean up. Schools, media entertainment, the law profession, every perch of cultural and societal high ground is occupied by industrial mind polluters. How to clean up a toxic superfund site respecting disagreements over what is pollution is the challenge.
Very good. Agree.
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The clear answer is a Spiritual Answer...pray for The Love of Christ to sweep away insanity and free us from our sin. (We've missed the Mark)
Deeply felt repentance...(change our minds) and new, better choices are our option!😇🙏🏼
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I wish I were younger and stronger, able to let my words flow as Charlie's did. How many times I wondered at his intellect, his way with words, his giant faith. All I can do is pray and pray that I can do my very best to keep Turning Point going forward. What a huge loss to the entire world!
PRAY for ALMIGHTY GOD's Holy Spirirt to equip you and speak through you! YOU CAN be a MIGHTY vessel for our Lord and Savior as ALMIGHTY GOD guides YOU!
Charlie's eloquence and power came from ALMIGHTY GOD. Charlie was simply OBEDIENT even unto death....
Perfect John! Timely and cogent.
Thanks John. You be careful out there.
It's surprising that the essay says nothing about proven neuropsychiatric harms of the corona injections. These harms are documented even in data published by the makers of these toxins prior to the mass rollout.
"The Indoctrinated Brain" by Michael Nehls, M.D. is readily available, and is a crucial reference. Nehls explicates specific damage done to the hippocampus and elsewhere in the brain.
The salient point: the situation now may be far more dangerous than that described by Carl Jung. Neuropsychiatric damage may have resulted in parts of the populace being neurologically incapable of critical thinking and discernment.
Allow me this tiny edit:
Neuropsychiatric damage has clearly resulted in an alarming percentage of the populace being neurologically incapable of critical thinking and discernment, worse than ever before.
If it is His will, God can certainly heal our brains.