I’m sorry to say, but this characterization is pretty disingenuous. With a tiny amount of research, anyone can clearly see the context in which Hegseth used this “prayer”/monologue.
Before he even utters it, Hegseth clearly attributes the “prayer” to what he said CSAR (combat search and rescue) itself calls its CSAR 25:17, which is modeled after Ezekiel 25:17 (as was Tarantino’s film’s), loosely I may add, and obviously a rip off the Pulp Fiction “prayer.”
To be fair, Hegseth didn’t call it scripture; it’s what the CSAR supposedly prayed before its rescue mission of the downed WSO a couple weeks ago.
Not sure why he decided to use it during his prayer meeting, because it just opens him up for twisting it and ridiculing him like he’s some fool who doesn’t realize that he isn’t saying a real Biblical prayer or something. People often only read the headlines and don’t bother to check to see what is the truth behind them.
So, is that the case here on your part? Sloppiness or a willingness to attribute the worst characteristics to someone to whom you vehemently disagree? Or just an innocent mistake?
But anyone who served in the military, as I have, understands that this type of prayer before embarking on a mission is both inspiring and sobering to those who are participating in it. And perhaps that is why Hegseth quoted it this week to close out his meeting. It was a nod to those brave service members who performed that amazing rescue mission.
Either you're a true believer or an operative, Unit 8200 or some other, if you can say with a straight face that this was an Amazing Rescue Mission. It was obviously a huge disaster on a massive scale and they lied about it. Nothing in that made for tv drama was true and even what information we have on it doesn't pass the sniff test. Good try though.
From one “true believer” to another, since you are regurgitating left wing/woke right talking points yourself, either CSAR used this as a “prayer” before the mission, or they didn’t. If they didn’t, Hegseth misattributed it. Fine. And then it probably wasn’t a good look. Having served, I can totally see something like this being said before a mission, and then his nod to its use would’ve been appropriate. Have you served? Just asking questions here… But regardless, he never attributed it to Scripture. Also… where’s the evidence this was a fake rescue mission? I guess the Artemis II mission was fake also?
John likes to reach into any port in the storm to stand against this action, which despite all predictions to the contrary, is completing the job.
It also looks like the Iranian people are getting in on the act. A ranking member of the Iranian regime's Basij--the one's who were raping and murdering female protestors, and maybe males as well, was found dead from 11 stab wounds in an alley yesterday.
Secretary HairGel is an inadvertent parody of “Christian”Zionists and addled evangelicals. And this element hypocritically accuses Muslims of religious extremism.
Pope Leo XIV explains why he visited a Mosque in Algeria: “The visit to the mosque was significant to say that although we have different beliefs, different ways of worshipping, different ways of living; we can live together in peace.”
“Trump offended some Christians on Easter Sunday after a post in which he referred to Iranian leaders as "crazy bastards" and threatened they'd be "living in Hell" if they didn't re-open the Strait of Hormuz, ending the threatening post with the phrase, "Praise be to Allah." He was slammed for the harsh language and timing of the post—former ally Tucker Carlson called it “vile on every level"—for which he did not apologize. On Sunday, Orthodox Easter, he courted even more controversy when he attacked Pope Leo XIV, who has criticized the Trump administration for starting a war in Iran, in a long Truth Social post labeling him as "weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy.” He then told reporters he was "not a big fan" of the world's first American pontiff, and then posted an AI-generated image that depicted Trump as Jesus himself descending from the heavens and holding an orb of light as he places one hand on the forehead of a sick man. Conservative Christian factions of Trump’s base reacted strongly and slammed him for what they called “OUTRAGEOUS blasphemy” and making a mockery of God. Trump said he thought the image “was me as a doctor” and did delete the post, but did not apologize, and on Wednesday posted another AI image in which he was embracing Jesus.”
“Jesus told us, “Blessed are the peacemakers,” but woe to those who manipulate religion in the very name of God for their own military, economic, or political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth.“
There’s more to this story. Hegseth recited the “prayer” that the crew (call sign Sandy 1) who recovered an F-15 pilot who was shot down over Iran.
During a Pentagon service, Hegseth said the prayer — called CSAR 25:17, an apparent reference to Ezekiel 25:17 in the Bible — was recited during a mission to recover the pilot of a U.S. F-15E fighter jet shot down in Iran earlier this month.
“So the prayer is CSAR 25:17 and it reads, and pray with me please, ‘The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of camaraderie and duty shepherds the lost through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children,'” he told those gathered at the Department of Defense.
“And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother, and you will know my call sign is Sandy 1 when I lay my vengeance upon thee,” he added. “Amen.”
The Iranian regime has killed unarmed protestors by the tens of thousands in the past year.
If we start with a clean slate of the actions of the Iranian regime and judge them only by what they have done to their own people in the past year, they have proven by their own deeds to warrant removal.
Why are you defending this mayhem and death by misdirecting the conversation to a litany of grievances you have against anyone holding the Iranian regime accountable for their actions?
Your behavior has been bizarre, John. You seem to be losing your grip on reality.
How do you know how many people the Iranian regime has killed? Where are your unbiased sources? You start with information known to be a lie and then argue from there. That's not how real investigations work. I suppose they're sawing women in half and ripping babies heads off too. Like the Krauts did in WW1 and WW2. Or maybe the Iraqi's who threw premature babies on the floor after stealing their incubators? Or the weapons of mass destruction. Or the Tonkin Gulf. Or the sinking of the Maine and Lusitainia..... all known and documented lies, hoaxes, and false flags. But this time, they're telling the truth.
I have listened and watched first person accounts from Iranian individuals who have been interviewed by various news outlets that I deem credible. I have not seen videos which would be a more reliable source.
What is your source that you base your statement:”you start with information known to be a lie….”
John, we don't care about Hegseth. The war with the regime in Iran is necessary. You seem to not understand what this regime is going to people in Iran and outside. They have destroyed millions of lives. It was U.S. that took the Shah out and place these thugs in Iran. Now it is U.S.'s responsibility to take them out. Hegseth, Trump or whomever..... it doesn't make any different. They are doing what should have been done years and years ago. You are not understanding and simply do not know about this conflict and its merits.
I want to know when John's daily rants will turn towards medical research disclosure? This appears to be an avenue for political discourse rather than what most of us are here for? Can we not agree to disagree on political views and focus on what could have a potential positive impact with our lives and our friends and family's lives?
Can we not move past division and unite on at least one thing that matters as much or more?
That's because John has a hard-working BS meter that filters government propaganda. In every single war or conflict, the first casualty is truth. Why you and others fall for it every time is the real question. Especially in war, not a single word from DC can be trusted.
They aren't falling for it, they're paid operatives from Unit 8200 and elsewhere (like the 50k internet operatives of the Air Force) who are paid to spout this nonsense where ever there is dissent and open discussion. You see them all over places that even mildly stray from the "Narrative"
The US (CIA) & UK (MI6) installed the Shah (oil cartel puppet) in Iran (Operation Ajax). Which also helped to create the secret police called the Savak. Which tortured and brutalized Iranians that ushered in the 1978 Iranian revolution to install the IRCG.
The US has a history of creating coups, revolutions and wars throughout the world. This war with Iran is fabricated propaganda to emotionally manipulate you. The real reason they want this war is because of the resources and geopolitical location that Iran serves for the interests of the Corporatocracy. An Iran with deterrence means that Iran would be on more level footing in the region. That is the threat. The propaganda is a Red Herring.
"conspiracy theorists" have long argued that Hollywood does what Wathington (via Langley?) tells/asks it to do. Fabriacting useful and at least partially false scenarios.
If so, the circle now closes with Washington borrowing from Hollywood, not bothering to check veracity of what arises from the falsehoods they originally commissioned.
There must be some nice parallels in history/literature about this.
Or maybe this is just basic "you reap what you sow".
John, good again. Is not every word spewed from BibiDon's mouth pulp fiction, not to mention from the lying lips of Bibi himself. this is not a question.
I hope at this point everyone realizes this is all theater. It's so tediously fake and gay and is, in fact, not accidental. It's part of the show, the Kayfabe, to quote current lingo, of it all. It's meant to humiliate the sincere and truthful into participating in the charade. Willing viewers. Part of the alchemical spell of transformation. What's even more insidious is that serious people will hem and haw over the details as if this is real. They'll debate the silliest of details, much the same as a pro wrestling fan will rant about the qualities and strategies of his favorite "wrestler". It's no accident that Trump himself is affiliated with WWE and it's precursor, the WWF.
If this is indeed the correct view, then the real question is what is the strategy behind it all. What's the end game?
As Don Corleone said, Barzini couldn't out fight Santino... or as Sonny told Tom Hagan, he's not a wartime consigliere.
Hegseth is a, wartime consigliere. The precision and effectiveness of our armed services are to be commended - from top to bottom.... including him. That he's quirky, is secondary, to the work he's done the last 15 months.
His usefulness has a shelf life. We can now more clearly see, there's real peace on the horizon. when the dust settles, my hunch he'll bow out on his own. Better for his bank accounts - and life - to go make big $ in the private sector.
"I would have told you that you had completely lost your mind." No need for the notice, the unfolding of planetary insanity has been crushing us for some time.
If you told me we would have Paula White as the White House Faith Office leader, I would have told you the scripts are being prepared by Hollywood.
The sad thing is that the American Christian Church, whether Protestant or Catholic, has so abandoned its role, and kicked its authority to the curb, that we can expect the world to look more and more like dystopian films, drug fueled rants from a self-serving elite that equates their arrogance with right.
This post reminds me of another Bible verse: "Festus said with a loud voice, 'Paul, you are beside yourself! Much learning is driving you mad!'" (Acts 26:24)
I’m sorry to say, but this characterization is pretty disingenuous. With a tiny amount of research, anyone can clearly see the context in which Hegseth used this “prayer”/monologue.
Before he even utters it, Hegseth clearly attributes the “prayer” to what he said CSAR (combat search and rescue) itself calls its CSAR 25:17, which is modeled after Ezekiel 25:17 (as was Tarantino’s film’s), loosely I may add, and obviously a rip off the Pulp Fiction “prayer.”
To be fair, Hegseth didn’t call it scripture; it’s what the CSAR supposedly prayed before its rescue mission of the downed WSO a couple weeks ago.
Not sure why he decided to use it during his prayer meeting, because it just opens him up for twisting it and ridiculing him like he’s some fool who doesn’t realize that he isn’t saying a real Biblical prayer or something. People often only read the headlines and don’t bother to check to see what is the truth behind them.
So, is that the case here on your part? Sloppiness or a willingness to attribute the worst characteristics to someone to whom you vehemently disagree? Or just an innocent mistake?
But anyone who served in the military, as I have, understands that this type of prayer before embarking on a mission is both inspiring and sobering to those who are participating in it. And perhaps that is why Hegseth quoted it this week to close out his meeting. It was a nod to those brave service members who performed that amazing rescue mission.
Haha, I've watched some of his prayers and speeches. He wants the total destruction of Iran in many of his biblical references.
If I were a troop, the idea of Armageddon would definitely not inspire me🤣🤣🤣.
The man is an evangelical fruitcake.
Thankfully, you are not a "troop". But you are full of tropes. Strange how you seem to be rooting for the other side.
Either you're a true believer or an operative, Unit 8200 or some other, if you can say with a straight face that this was an Amazing Rescue Mission. It was obviously a huge disaster on a massive scale and they lied about it. Nothing in that made for tv drama was true and even what information we have on it doesn't pass the sniff test. Good try though.
From one “true believer” to another, since you are regurgitating left wing/woke right talking points yourself, either CSAR used this as a “prayer” before the mission, or they didn’t. If they didn’t, Hegseth misattributed it. Fine. And then it probably wasn’t a good look. Having served, I can totally see something like this being said before a mission, and then his nod to its use would’ve been appropriate. Have you served? Just asking questions here… But regardless, he never attributed it to Scripture. Also… where’s the evidence this was a fake rescue mission? I guess the Artemis II mission was fake also?
“And pray with me please”
https://x.com/jamesmelville/status/2044792715179663717?s=61&t=BcRbQIg4-yLIWDE4ASw6UQ
John likes to reach into any port in the storm to stand against this action, which despite all predictions to the contrary, is completing the job.
It also looks like the Iranian people are getting in on the act. A ranking member of the Iranian regime's Basij--the one's who were raping and murdering female protestors, and maybe males as well, was found dead from 11 stab wounds in an alley yesterday.
Secretary HairGel is an inadvertent parody of “Christian”Zionists and addled evangelicals. And this element hypocritically accuses Muslims of religious extremism.
https://x.com/drew_ponder/status/2044841054877393022?s=67&t=BcRbQIg4-yLIWDE4ASw6UQ
Sec Hairgel 🤣🤣🤣
Pope Leo XIV explains why he visited a Mosque in Algeria: “The visit to the mosque was significant to say that although we have different beliefs, different ways of worshipping, different ways of living; we can live together in peace.”
“Trump offended some Christians on Easter Sunday after a post in which he referred to Iranian leaders as "crazy bastards" and threatened they'd be "living in Hell" if they didn't re-open the Strait of Hormuz, ending the threatening post with the phrase, "Praise be to Allah." He was slammed for the harsh language and timing of the post—former ally Tucker Carlson called it “vile on every level"—for which he did not apologize. On Sunday, Orthodox Easter, he courted even more controversy when he attacked Pope Leo XIV, who has criticized the Trump administration for starting a war in Iran, in a long Truth Social post labeling him as "weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy.” He then told reporters he was "not a big fan" of the world's first American pontiff, and then posted an AI-generated image that depicted Trump as Jesus himself descending from the heavens and holding an orb of light as he places one hand on the forehead of a sick man. Conservative Christian factions of Trump’s base reacted strongly and slammed him for what they called “OUTRAGEOUS blasphemy” and making a mockery of God. Trump said he thought the image “was me as a doctor” and did delete the post, but did not apologize, and on Wednesday posted another AI image in which he was embracing Jesus.”
🇻🇦🇺🇸 Pope Leo XIV:
“Jesus told us, “Blessed are the peacemakers,” but woe to those who manipulate religion in the very name of God for their own military, economic, or political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth.“
A distinguishing feature of propaganda is taking small events or truths in small groups and blowing them out of proportion, thus labeling the whole.
“And pray with me please”
https://x.com/jamesmelville/status/2044792715179663717?s=61&t=BcRbQIg4-yLIWDE4ASw6UQ
Trump’s faith advisor, Paula White goes heavy metal.
https://youtu.be/TzIym0eZsH0?si=XB79Dr7mmrHq9QWI
There’s more to this story. Hegseth recited the “prayer” that the crew (call sign Sandy 1) who recovered an F-15 pilot who was shot down over Iran.
During a Pentagon service, Hegseth said the prayer — called CSAR 25:17, an apparent reference to Ezekiel 25:17 in the Bible — was recited during a mission to recover the pilot of a U.S. F-15E fighter jet shot down in Iran earlier this month.
“So the prayer is CSAR 25:17 and it reads, and pray with me please, ‘The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of camaraderie and duty shepherds the lost through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children,'” he told those gathered at the Department of Defense.
“And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother, and you will know my call sign is Sandy 1 when I lay my vengeance upon thee,” he added. “Amen.”
If what you state is true, then Leake has double faulted: ill-characterization of Hegseth and using PF as a motif; that movie was disgusting.
The Iranian regime has killed unarmed protestors by the tens of thousands in the past year.
If we start with a clean slate of the actions of the Iranian regime and judge them only by what they have done to their own people in the past year, they have proven by their own deeds to warrant removal.
Why are you defending this mayhem and death by misdirecting the conversation to a litany of grievances you have against anyone holding the Iranian regime accountable for their actions?
Your behavior has been bizarre, John. You seem to be losing your grip on reality.
How do you know how many people the Iranian regime has killed? Where are your unbiased sources? You start with information known to be a lie and then argue from there. That's not how real investigations work. I suppose they're sawing women in half and ripping babies heads off too. Like the Krauts did in WW1 and WW2. Or maybe the Iraqi's who threw premature babies on the floor after stealing their incubators? Or the weapons of mass destruction. Or the Tonkin Gulf. Or the sinking of the Maine and Lusitainia..... all known and documented lies, hoaxes, and false flags. But this time, they're telling the truth.
IRGC admitted to 3000 murdered.
Next question?
I have listened and watched first person accounts from Iranian individuals who have been interviewed by various news outlets that I deem credible. I have not seen videos which would be a more reliable source.
What is your source that you base your statement:”you start with information known to be a lie….”
John, we don't care about Hegseth. The war with the regime in Iran is necessary. You seem to not understand what this regime is going to people in Iran and outside. They have destroyed millions of lives. It was U.S. that took the Shah out and place these thugs in Iran. Now it is U.S.'s responsibility to take them out. Hegseth, Trump or whomever..... it doesn't make any different. They are doing what should have been done years and years ago. You are not understanding and simply do not know about this conflict and its merits.
I want to know when John's daily rants will turn towards medical research disclosure? This appears to be an avenue for political discourse rather than what most of us are here for? Can we not agree to disagree on political views and focus on what could have a potential positive impact with our lives and our friends and family's lives?
Can we not move past division and unite on at least one thing that matters as much or more?
That's because John has a hard-working BS meter that filters government propaganda. In every single war or conflict, the first casualty is truth. Why you and others fall for it every time is the real question. Especially in war, not a single word from DC can be trusted.
They aren't falling for it, they're paid operatives from Unit 8200 and elsewhere (like the 50k internet operatives of the Air Force) who are paid to spout this nonsense where ever there is dissent and open discussion. You see them all over places that even mildly stray from the "Narrative"
The US (CIA) & UK (MI6) installed the Shah (oil cartel puppet) in Iran (Operation Ajax). Which also helped to create the secret police called the Savak. Which tortured and brutalized Iranians that ushered in the 1978 Iranian revolution to install the IRCG.
The US has a history of creating coups, revolutions and wars throughout the world. This war with Iran is fabricated propaganda to emotionally manipulate you. The real reason they want this war is because of the resources and geopolitical location that Iran serves for the interests of the Corporatocracy. An Iran with deterrence means that Iran would be on more level footing in the region. That is the threat. The propaganda is a Red Herring.
"conspiracy theorists" have long argued that Hollywood does what Wathington (via Langley?) tells/asks it to do. Fabriacting useful and at least partially false scenarios.
If so, the circle now closes with Washington borrowing from Hollywood, not bothering to check veracity of what arises from the falsehoods they originally commissioned.
There must be some nice parallels in history/literature about this.
Or maybe this is just basic "you reap what you sow".
Another fanatic clown in charge of the US war machine
OMG preserve us please
John, good again. Is not every word spewed from BibiDon's mouth pulp fiction, not to mention from the lying lips of Bibi himself. this is not a question.
I hope at this point everyone realizes this is all theater. It's so tediously fake and gay and is, in fact, not accidental. It's part of the show, the Kayfabe, to quote current lingo, of it all. It's meant to humiliate the sincere and truthful into participating in the charade. Willing viewers. Part of the alchemical spell of transformation. What's even more insidious is that serious people will hem and haw over the details as if this is real. They'll debate the silliest of details, much the same as a pro wrestling fan will rant about the qualities and strategies of his favorite "wrestler". It's no accident that Trump himself is affiliated with WWE and it's precursor, the WWF.
If this is indeed the correct view, then the real question is what is the strategy behind it all. What's the end game?
Interesting.... and, love the lego parody.
As Don Corleone said, Barzini couldn't out fight Santino... or as Sonny told Tom Hagan, he's not a wartime consigliere.
Hegseth is a, wartime consigliere. The precision and effectiveness of our armed services are to be commended - from top to bottom.... including him. That he's quirky, is secondary, to the work he's done the last 15 months.
His usefulness has a shelf life. We can now more clearly see, there's real peace on the horizon. when the dust settles, my hunch he'll bow out on his own. Better for his bank accounts - and life - to go make big $ in the private sector.
Bored at this point.
TDS is STRONG with this one.
TDS (Trump Delusional/Dead-ender Syndrome)
Trump has committed political suicide, and he is taking the GOP down with him.
"I would have told you that you had completely lost your mind." No need for the notice, the unfolding of planetary insanity has been crushing us for some time.
If you told me we would have Paula White as the White House Faith Office leader, I would have told you the scripts are being prepared by Hollywood.
The sad thing is that the American Christian Church, whether Protestant or Catholic, has so abandoned its role, and kicked its authority to the curb, that we can expect the world to look more and more like dystopian films, drug fueled rants from a self-serving elite that equates their arrogance with right.
We won.
This post reminds me of another Bible verse: "Festus said with a loud voice, 'Paul, you are beside yourself! Much learning is driving you mad!'" (Acts 26:24)