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dmickg's avatar

The most disheartening thing I am seeing/hearing today is the reaction to Charlies assassination by an unbelievable number of Leftists...especially the young. I just watched a video clip of someone asking people on the UT Austin campus how they felt about it. I don't even have to words to describe the level of hate, crassness, ignorance and insensitivity. We are SO lost as a society!

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John Leake's avatar

I believe that the Gulag Archipelago presents an accurate diagnosis of the phenomenon you are describing.

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RSgva's avatar

Yes, and earlier this week Matt Taibbi reminded us of Dostoyevsky in the Brothers Karamazov, to the effect “when God is dead, everything else is permitted.“

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Karon Mitchell's avatar

When I tried to read the Gulag, I quit reading about halfway through. It was just too depressing. But I remember thinking “okay. I get it. They just made EVERYTHING illegal.”

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dmickg's avatar

Another example. https://gettr.com/post/p3ru1s26be9

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SH's avatar

My heart is heavy today. Jeff Childers had a timely quote for us this morning, and it is very apt with what we are seeing. Our bibles are for yesterday, today and tomorrow.

“As they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:28-32.

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UncleMac's avatar

Shocking how many so called journalists are trying to change the channel to either blame Charlie Kirk himself or to call for more gun grabbing. Reprehensible.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Reprehensible- yes. Shocking? Sadly, not really. Tragically, this assassination wasn’t a big surprise. I’d love to be less cynical, but…

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Patricia Hooker's avatar

I agree, this has all the hallmarks of a professional assassination. I’m in the UK and didn’t know about him but very sorry it happened. Think of the Kennedy Assassination. The world has gone mad.

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Richard Cabot's avatar

We had some already. I submit that Merrick Garland and Joe Biden both believed that Trump supporters "had it coming". So did many of the rank and file FBI. That's how the January 6 persecutions were justified in their minds.

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nonwo's avatar
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I think we should not believe anything that we hear about who did it blah blah blah. The question is “who benefits?” The answer is “who always benefits” then the next question is “why” what did he do to anger the TPTB?

If you do a serious search you may find it.

TPTB may have selected him because he was evangelical, financed him. Just like they did Vance. He is also an evangelical but he is a good obedient boy. Kirk turned his back on them so they had to do something. The sniper was professional, definitely hired by a powerful organization. Can you guess?

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Mike Ward's avatar

Looks like a professional 'hit' to me too. If so, it appears to me as though it was meant to further widen the divide between Left and Right. And I very much doubt that the real perpetrators who would benefit from such a heinous act will ever be caught. All that is left for us is to wait and see who they drag out as the 'patsy'.

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nonwo's avatar
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“it appears to me as though it was meant to further widen the divide between Left and Right.”

IMO that is not the main reason but is certainly a benefit.

I don’t think it had to do with any of his left/right beliefs.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Enough with your tinfoil-hat conspiracy garbage. How the hell does Kirk’s assassination benefit the so-called “powers that be”? Killing him only turns him into a martyr, fueling the exact movement TPTB supposedly want to crush. If they orchestrated this, they’re not just evil—they’re brain-dead idiots who handed Kirk’s cause a megaphone.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

I think it is possible that the same hidden power brokers that are dismantling America arranged this assassination, as with Trump’s attempted assassination and others. They usually use unstable people as patsies. No, it is not smart, making a martyr, but they might well have thought it worthwhile to nip him and his burgeoning movement in the bud. It also brings to mind Luigi Mangione- too many things do not make sense for him to have done that alone. Also, just as with Trump’s shooters, the curiosity from the media is almost totally lacking. Of course, they probably are afraid to ask questions these days. Other journalists have died suddenly. Behind all of it is the malevolent entity known as Satan.

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nonwo's avatar
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“Behind all of it is the malevolent entity known as Satan.”

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Patriot Karen Cottey's avatar

Wow! 😮 Charlie Kirk was a Christian! He was such a good, decent man who wanted to simply debate openly about how great America is! He wanted to show these young people how wrong they were about President Trump, America & their Woke Ideology. He was [politically] assassinated by a Woke, Counter-Cult LGBTQ, and Groomed, Brainwashed, & Indoctrinated person who suffers from Self-Hatred, Hatred for God, and is mentally unstable. This is what happens when a child is exposed to Gender Identity; Genitalia Mutilations & FarLeft Radicalized Communists/Socialists/Marxists [Dems] who are teaching our children about all of the aforementioned ideologies & confusing their undeveloped brains. Their Childhood and innocence has been stolen by these FarLeft Communists/Socialists/Marxists and every university is pushing their Anti-Republic Anti-Christian Anti-America & Pro-Palestine, Pro-LGBTQ #Agenda30 NWO Ideology. WakeUp 🐑 🐑 🐑 You are just a puppet for Globalists/ CCP, Communists, Sharia Law & Muslim Terrorists

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Mourning Warbler's avatar

He was educating minds.

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nonwo's avatar
4hEdited

But his other ideas that he started to embrace were way more dangerous to TPTB.

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nonwo's avatar
4hEdited

PS. I like your dog!

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SF Bay Area's avatar

I love my dog!

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Richie Vieques's avatar

What is TPTB an anagram for ?

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Lisa's avatar

TPTB means the powers that be (and ought not to be)

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Richie Vieques's avatar

Thanks

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Karon Mitchell's avatar

The powers that be

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Richie Vieques's avatar

Thanks

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Realist's avatar

"Heaven help this country if guys like Mr. Dowd ever assume positions of power, for they are by far the most dangerous people on earth."

Too late! They are already there and not just in the United States.

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Mourning Warbler's avatar

He was fired. Yay!

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sean anderson's avatar

Dowd’s comment is an example of “guilt transfer” in which the victim is held responsible for their own victimization. That is how the Hamasniks can claim without blushing that the “Israeli oppression” FORCED the Arab men to rob, rape and murder their victims.

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Realist's avatar

A true Zionist apologist.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

True anti-Semitic reply.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

The reason I said that, is because anti-semites seem to turn every conversation to their pet hobbyhorse. For instance, yesterday on another comment board, a Muslim lady was quick to say that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the IDF and they were going to frame Muslims.

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Realist's avatar

"True anti-Semitic reply."

Nope, just anti-Zionist. Many Jews are anti-Zionist.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

Okay, I’m truly glad you don’t hate all Jews! But being anti-Zion is not good either. God has much to say about the country and nation of Israel in the Bible, especially in the major prophets. He calls Himself “the God of Israel”! You seem like a sensible guy, so I’m sure you have reasons for being anti-Zion, but I’ve read a lot of prophecies about Israel, many of which have been fulfilled in some measure, and I would say you’re on the losing side there.

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Realist's avatar

I am not religious.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

That does not matter, more power to you, as some of the worst people are religious (see Jesus’ remarks to the scribes and Pharisees). What does matter is what is true, what is real. You can have all the faith in the world that life just magically appeared over millions or billions of years, but that does not make it true. I may not like everything that the Bible says, but that doesn’t make it untrue. I decided a long time ago that it is most important to figure out if God is real and the Bible is true. Because, if it is, and you ignore it, you may spend all of eternity in hell. No higher stakes than eternity.

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Mourning Warbler's avatar

He was fired.

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Patriot Karen Cottey's avatar

What we are seeing & witnessing in America today is exactly what a former Russian KGB Agent, Yuri Bezmenov, who risked his life to defect Russia & The KGB. He tried to warn Americans back in the 1970’s about how it would take several generations of propaganda, lies, FakeNews Media to completely destroy our American society. https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA?si=mAhZb8MYR0Ukv8EY

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albert venezio's avatar

They are in position of power in the USA, and elsewhere, and actually control the USA!

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Realist's avatar

You beat me to it. I didn't see your comments until I posted mine.

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albert venezio's avatar

The Truth is the Truth and some see it!

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

The people spreading the cancerous mind virus are not facing consequences. Until they do this will continue unabated. It will probably even escalate. Joseph McCarthy was not wrong and is one of the most misrepresented figures in American history.

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Allie's avatar

I sent an email to the White House this morning, recommending that President Trump award Charlie Kirk, posthumously, the Medal of Freedom. Perhaps others will flood the White House with this recommendation to get it done.

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KE's avatar

Yes. I work with a coldhearted woman who said exactly this yesterday ….that he had it coming. His “hate speech” caused this. That maybe now conservatives will think twice. Thank goodness I was not working today bc it could have been my last. I’d have a hard time not speaking my mind on this and in this country, look where that gets you. So sad for this incredible loss and the despicable hatred that swirls all around. God help us.

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Mourning Warbler's avatar

Some delusional gaslighted people out there don't know right from wrong. Charlie Kirk was a truth speaker.

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Jason's avatar

Charlie was a brave Christian man who spoke the truth and was a voice for those who could not speak.

Instead of just pointing out what was wrong and why it was wrong, for the first time in his career Charlie spent the last three months criticizing the ruling “establishment”, those who control our government and cause the issues.

Because he joined the ranks of Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson they professionally assassinated him.

Harrison H Smith posted on August 13 and again the day before the shooting that Charlie told a friend he was afraid this specific group would assassinate him because he was exposing them.

 “The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.”

— William of Ockham

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Kim Hayes's avatar

Have you seen this????

Real or fake? Charlie Kirk shot in the neck.

https://mellowkat.substack.com/p/real-or-fake-charlie-kirk-shot-in?r=1sqfar&triedRedirect=true

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alice's avatar

It is my hope that people of all faiths attend any memorial for this man,to demonstrate they disagree with any jusifierjournalists' spin.

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Patricia Flynn's avatar

I had difficult time getting to sleep last night too .. I kept twisting and turning .. I looked at the clock and was surprised it was 2am. Joe had a nightmare and started punching in his sleep. I gently woke him up .. and assured him "it's okay".

Thankfully, he fell asleep quickly .. I felt so guilty fibbing to him. May God forgive me ...

It's not okay.

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