Interestingly, there are hundreds of plants that can eliminate bacterial infections and the toxins they release into the system and help support the immune system so it does its job and help restore damage done once the infection is resolved. AND the bacteria don’t become resistant to the stuff over time. AND if a person is allergic to one pant there are many others that will do the job equally well. I would say the planet and Creator has a better handle on things that can keep us healthy than humans do. We are short-sighted and often financially driven which often blinds us to the problems of the things we so proudly make. The thousands of years of remedies for patterns in a body we’ve come to label “an infection” could be used to our advantage. They are, most of the time, gentle and non-toxic; not expensive; can resolve the problem; and leave us connected with our surroundings in ways pharmaceuticals cannot and never will. I’ve been helping folks resolve bacterial infections without penicillin or other Pharma antibiotics - including STDs for well over 30 years.
I believe the development of penicillin was a significant accomplishment, but I have long suspected that there are other means of resolving many of these illnesses that have been suppressed and downplayed and that the notion that pharmaceuticals were absolutely necessary here is, to one extent or another, overblown.
Homeopathy showed great results treating epidemics that allopathic medicine couldn't touch.
Dr. Fredrick Klenner and others, starting in the 1930's, showed that high doses of Vitamin C safely and effectively treat a great variety of infections. More recently, Marik has developed an effective protocol for sepsis which features Vitamin C.
How much were we REALLY defenseless against these various conditions versus how much were we made vulnerable to them by a merciless allopathic medicine that refused to adopt measures that lied outside its framework?
Precisely. Not to mention good hygiene; better behavior with regard to various appetites we can learn to control; more respectful behavior; and many other lifestyle choices also make a difference. Musical geniuses, or any geniuses for that matter, do not get a “by” on behavior. I don’t wish suffering on anyone. But I also don’t believe in curing and then encouraging the same behavior that got you sick in the first place. Some effective learning can go a long way.
I was also looking for this comment. After everything weve seen Im having a hard time believing in any of their "miracles" of medicine. If they allow us to have it, theres gotta be something better.
I was allergic to it in the early days given to me for tonsillitis in 1959 but I’ve had it for something else since and no reaction to it. And I’ve taken ivermectin which is similar made from a bacteria and no problems.
I listened to an elderly doctor describing treating pneumonia before penicillin. The doctor would sit by the bed all night and either the fever would break and the patient start to sweat, or else they died. Then this white powder was invented and that all stopped happening. You just took some penicillin and were cured.
It is good to keep in mind that syphilis, before antibiotics, was treated with mercury, which causes so many weird symptoms that once you get it in you, it is hard to tell what is going on.
Exactly. Of course Tertiary Syphilis caused "madness" as well as loss of balance from posterior spinal column nerves that carry proprioception, so the patient often stumbled around and raved incoherently. The old time docs called it Tabes dorsalis--dorsal referring to the location of the nerves affected.
Treatment with mercurous chloride would have just made symptoms worse.
Or it caused those symptoms all together. It is hard to say. I have often wondered if there is data from that Tuskegee experiment that would inform us.
Though MONEY has always been a great motivator for such discoveries. Sadly, TODAY it is THE MOTIVATOR! This has led to bad "science" cutting corners and flat out fraud for the PROFIT!!
But, as an aside, remember the ad: A little dab will do ya! Brylcream.
Get the grey out.
Fast fwd to cosmotechical industry today and 20 yr olds getting various plastic surgery interventions.
PCN also brought with it declining personal responsibility (both individual and MD). Contract STD? Take this pill and go on doing what you do. Or, have a cough or sniffle, take this pill for 7 days and it will cure what ails ya.
Strengthen your health rather then look for a pill fix as go-to / first threatment. Can we say together "safe and effective "?
Enjoyed the historical perspective and it’s importance John - perhaps one also on ivermectin and the correlation of the two “natural” origins and their broad effectiveness?
It is useful to remember Penicillin led to the later derivatives of beta-lactam antibiotics, with side chains that allowed those allergic to penicillin to be treated successfully.
Franz Schubert is one of my favorites as well. His Opus 100 Piano Trio in Eb is one of the finest expressions of any trio, with the Andante Con Moto absolutely sublime, as long as it is not played, IMO, too "Moto". (quickly)
The heroes and villains of pharmceuticals. The heroes- short term, effective treatment to get the body back in balance and healthy again- Penicillin, anesthetics, epipens, insulin- all emergency life saving stuff. The villains- all the drugs and treatments which encourage continued normalised pharmaceutical dependency and support the perpetuation of detrimental lifestyles and diets. Very little profit in the former- a life-time customer in the latter.
Yes, medicine and pharmaceutical companies have made great strides. Unfortunately, their hubris has convinced them that they are God because of that success. We must never forget to be humble and to respect human life.
Penicillin became the go to for decades. All antibiotics have been overused, often because patients demanded them for non-bacterial complaints and too many physicians acquiesced. It has been discussed that we are approaching a "post antibiotic era" due to resistant bacteria.
Interestingly, there are hundreds of plants that can eliminate bacterial infections and the toxins they release into the system and help support the immune system so it does its job and help restore damage done once the infection is resolved. AND the bacteria don’t become resistant to the stuff over time. AND if a person is allergic to one pant there are many others that will do the job equally well. I would say the planet and Creator has a better handle on things that can keep us healthy than humans do. We are short-sighted and often financially driven which often blinds us to the problems of the things we so proudly make. The thousands of years of remedies for patterns in a body we’ve come to label “an infection” could be used to our advantage. They are, most of the time, gentle and non-toxic; not expensive; can resolve the problem; and leave us connected with our surroundings in ways pharmaceuticals cannot and never will. I’ve been helping folks resolve bacterial infections without penicillin or other Pharma antibiotics - including STDs for well over 30 years.
I am glad to see this comment.
I believe the development of penicillin was a significant accomplishment, but I have long suspected that there are other means of resolving many of these illnesses that have been suppressed and downplayed and that the notion that pharmaceuticals were absolutely necessary here is, to one extent or another, overblown.
Homeopathy showed great results treating epidemics that allopathic medicine couldn't touch.
Dr. Fredrick Klenner and others, starting in the 1930's, showed that high doses of Vitamin C safely and effectively treat a great variety of infections. More recently, Marik has developed an effective protocol for sepsis which features Vitamin C.
How much were we REALLY defenseless against these various conditions versus how much were we made vulnerable to them by a merciless allopathic medicine that refused to adopt measures that lied outside its framework?
Precisely. Not to mention good hygiene; better behavior with regard to various appetites we can learn to control; more respectful behavior; and many other lifestyle choices also make a difference. Musical geniuses, or any geniuses for that matter, do not get a “by” on behavior. I don’t wish suffering on anyone. But I also don’t believe in curing and then encouraging the same behavior that got you sick in the first place. Some effective learning can go a long way.
I was also looking for this comment. After everything weve seen Im having a hard time believing in any of their "miracles" of medicine. If they allow us to have it, theres gotta be something better.
Penicillin is great, if you are not allergic to it.
I was allergic to it in the early days given to me for tonsillitis in 1959 but I’ve had it for something else since and no reaction to it. And I’ve taken ivermectin which is similar made from a bacteria and no problems.
An unbelievable achievement which saved so many I remember a great Aunt who lost children in 8 months due to strep infections in 1922
I listened to an elderly doctor describing treating pneumonia before penicillin. The doctor would sit by the bed all night and either the fever would break and the patient start to sweat, or else they died. Then this white powder was invented and that all stopped happening. You just took some penicillin and were cured.
It is good to keep in mind that syphilis, before antibiotics, was treated with mercury, which causes so many weird symptoms that once you get it in you, it is hard to tell what is going on.
Exactly. Of course Tertiary Syphilis caused "madness" as well as loss of balance from posterior spinal column nerves that carry proprioception, so the patient often stumbled around and raved incoherently. The old time docs called it Tabes dorsalis--dorsal referring to the location of the nerves affected.
Treatment with mercurous chloride would have just made symptoms worse.
Or it caused those symptoms all together. It is hard to say. I have often wondered if there is data from that Tuskegee experiment that would inform us.
Though MONEY has always been a great motivator for such discoveries. Sadly, TODAY it is THE MOTIVATOR! This has led to bad "science" cutting corners and flat out fraud for the PROFIT!!
Great back-story, John. Thx
These stories of "advancement" are important!
But, as an aside, remember the ad: A little dab will do ya! Brylcream.
Get the grey out.
Fast fwd to cosmotechical industry today and 20 yr olds getting various plastic surgery interventions.
PCN also brought with it declining personal responsibility (both individual and MD). Contract STD? Take this pill and go on doing what you do. Or, have a cough or sniffle, take this pill for 7 days and it will cure what ails ya.
Strengthen your health rather then look for a pill fix as go-to / first threatment. Can we say together "safe and effective "?
Tim Smith AR
SABINE HAZAN MD
https://twitter.com/SabinehazanMD/status/1609655119359909890
Now here's something most don’t know... While everyone thought a man discovered penicillin, it was a woman behind it.
Enjoyed the historical perspective and it’s importance John - perhaps one also on ivermectin and the correlation of the two “natural” origins and their broad effectiveness?
There ARE times when human beings do great things. We need to remember that.
Is syphilis treatable with PCN or just thought to be? Here's one who would say the latter:
https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/what-is-syphilis?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=355417&post_id=182609873&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=ql1e3&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Very interesting
It is useful to remember Penicillin led to the later derivatives of beta-lactam antibiotics, with side chains that allowed those allergic to penicillin to be treated successfully.
Franz Schubert is one of my favorites as well. His Opus 100 Piano Trio in Eb is one of the finest expressions of any trio, with the Andante Con Moto absolutely sublime, as long as it is not played, IMO, too "Moto". (quickly)
The heroes and villains of pharmceuticals. The heroes- short term, effective treatment to get the body back in balance and healthy again- Penicillin, anesthetics, epipens, insulin- all emergency life saving stuff. The villains- all the drugs and treatments which encourage continued normalised pharmaceutical dependency and support the perpetuation of detrimental lifestyles and diets. Very little profit in the former- a life-time customer in the latter.
Yes, medicine and pharmaceutical companies have made great strides. Unfortunately, their hubris has convinced them that they are God because of that success. We must never forget to be humble and to respect human life.
Your mean Franz Schubert should have gone to the Penis Ill Inn?
I would say use sparingly, and find alternative means if possible. My uncle died of MRSA, an outcome of the widespread use of penicillin.
Penicillin became the go to for decades. All antibiotics have been overused, often because patients demanded them for non-bacterial complaints and too many physicians acquiesced. It has been discussed that we are approaching a "post antibiotic era" due to resistant bacteria.