Lack of exit wound strongly suggests that bullet was fired from a rifle with a suppressor and loaded with a subsonic cartridge. Low roof behind waterfall possible sniper's nest.
Nope, not buying it. From the VERY beginning, this whole thing has a fake feeling to it. I'm waiting for someone to come forward and admit there is another story to be told about this one.
BREAKING, FBI DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE: Ryne Simmons says the FBI tried to get him to DELETE his Charlie Kirk assassination video. Is this why we've gotten so little footage from witnesses?! How many witnesses followed these FBI instructions? Outrageous. Cover-up confirmed?
When the FBI Director publicly equates those asking questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination with anarchists, that’s a dead giveaway of a 100% cover-up.
Truth doesn’t fear scrutiny—only liars and their lies do.
Have you heard about the gag order? The gag order, issued by Judge Tony Graph without formal requests from prosecutors or defense, restricts over 3,000 potential witnesses, attorneys, and even the media from discussing the case.
Besides, at these Fake Flag shootings the crowd in front are usually Crysis Actors.
Wow, had not heard about this. It just keeps getting more and more ridiculous and bizarre. Yeah, now we’re moving on to destroying evidence. WTF, Kash.
"Zionist interests" in general are at the top of that short list. Charlie Kirk was turning away from them and was getting a lot of sudden pressure from his powerful donors in that camp, notably Larry Ellison...
I'd not heard of air squib before so I looked it up. Very interesting theory. It did not appear that those behind the table where Charlie's body was lying had any blood on them nor were they doing what one would do if someone was shot, like put compression on the wound.
Tyler was not the shooter! This was a well thought out assassination!! It involved Israel and America 🇺🇸 in my opinion!! Charlie was challenging the young kids to question, think and to use common sense! The education organization is big, powerful and extremely influential when it comes to shaping the future minds of our young adults!
Agree. Do you recall that Mossad loaded explosives into cell phones and delivered them to their enemies and triggered an explosion! CK was wearing a recorder that was tampered with in the same way and the brownshiter triggered the device. How else would all his neck vertebrae be destroyed?
No, it’ didn’t. What foolhardy craziness are you all buying into ? What nonsense . I must have fallen into the Flat Earth society and the We never walked on the moon craziness. Absurd.
…there have been enough fantastic lies and manipulation from “government” over the years, it would come as little surprise to learn that the earth is flat, that we never walked on the moon, and that the video camera seen being removed by staff from behind where Charlie had been sitting is in fact a holographic projector used to project what was just a hologram of Charlie within that holographic-projection canopy/stage… and that he’s alive and well in some secret retreat somewhere exotic like down in New Zealand …
@ManAliveNoMyth - Like the holograms of the 911 planes disappearing "into" (and thus defying gravity) a building planted with bombs. Tragic. RIP to those in the building. In this case, Charlie was present. Many of us believe he had an air squib on, then a.i. was added.
And to Monica who blocked me because she think’s I’m a “plant or a bot” I’m not either, I’m just me. Some people here are a little hysterical and afraid. It’s odd.
Latest from Candace Owens (a friend of Kirk who's been spot on regarding Kirk's break with Israel and other aspects of the case) is that the whole story of Robinson's father fingering his son is wrong. It was the "family friend," a former law enforcement officer, who went to the father, told him LE believed Tyler was the shooter, and convinced Tyler (who proclaimed his innocence) to surrender in order to avoid a violent (fatal?) arrest. Apparently, Tyler Robinson has never set foot at UVU, let alone its rooftops, having spent his single semester of college at Utah State, not Utah Valley, but he was near UVU that day, at the nearby Dairy Queen, for one thing. Like John Leake and most knowledgeable observers, Owens believes Kirk was shot with something less powerful than a 30.06. And my odd observation: what is it about K-surnames? JFK, RFK, MLK, CJK?
I have studied the JFK assassination in quite a lot of detail and depth. There is no question that there were a minimum of three active professional snipers who shot at Kennedy and Governor Connolly, and possibly more than three. JFK was hit four times. Governor Connely was hit at least two, probably three times. The last two shots were fired so nearly simultaneously that very few people realized that two shots had been fired directly at JFK's head, after he'd been already hit in the upper back and in the neck. The third shot came from in front and slightly to the right (the gunman behind the stockade fence of the Grassy Knoll) and the final shot came from behind Kennedy. Read Last Second in Dallas by Josiah Thompson for all the gruesome details.
I hope he does. He's such a fine researcher and writer. My only concern would be for his health, as the people who murdered Mr. Kirk cannot ever let their crimes be exposed.
I am not technical at all, but I am logical. I also wondered, if the FBI had the weapon, then shouldn’t they have made a match with “ miracle bullet “ already? I wondered why it seemed that no one in the media was discussing this basic point?
Additionally, the photos the FBI has shown us don’t match Tyler face and body, as most anyone can see. And the clothing their suspect wore, does not match the infamous Dairy Queen photo that was widely circulated in the Orem community. And now the judge is trying to gag that community and trying to convince a community of Mormons ( who in my experience are as a group, very truthful and dependable) that they shouldn’t be speaking up? So just take another innocent life ( Robinson’s) for a political agenda ? All trying to make us not believe our own common sense. This sure looks like a cover up to me.
Theatrics? How so? The problem with you and so many others judging ppls behavior while there’s a shooting in progress, thousands of ppl present, cameras on everything, which adds more horror to what’s happening…the list goes on, but the judgment of their “theatrics” is absurd. The fact of the matter is, when ppl are under that much duress, they fall back to doing what they’re used to doing. Period. It’s a way to seek normalcy, a defense mechanism. Watch the video of an immigrant walking onto a playground in France and then stabbing a bunch of kids, then ask yourself if THAT was theatrics as well. While this man stabbed his way through the playground, ppl witnessing this, utterly horrified, they didn’t run. Didn’t scream. Didn’t even attempt to protect their CHILDREN. One guy still climbed up and then went down the slide, even as he watched this lunatic go after ppl. The behaviors by the victims and witnesses doesn’t mean they’re bad ppl who don’t care about children, nor does it mean they’re cowards, it means that went a switch gets flipped in your brain, you fall to whatever level your ancestral brain is at. Without thinking. Some ppl on that playground turned to stone, they froze, which is THE most common reaction from ppl in fight or flight.
So, to answer your questing about why there’s no talk of the “theatrics”, here’s one possible (and likely) answer: bc anyone who has been through something similar to that (as I have—a shooting at Underground Atlanta years ago) understands that these behaviors ppl exhibit under duress cannot be judged accurately by ppl who haven’t experienced that kind of fear. YOU are judging these ppl based on what you think YOU would do in that situation, and I’m telling you right now that you’re wrong. You won’t do what you think you’ll do, you’ll do something you can’t understand yourself, and then you’ll be judged by a bunch of idiots on the internet who think they have the “right formula” for how one should behave when they witness a public assassination. In short, most of us know better than that bullshit, so the claim that this was “theatrics” is just retarded. The Dunning-Krueger effect…highly recommend you Google it.
Btw Interesting that a person of your stature would use the highly offensive "r" word, which makes me wonder if you're not here to throw people off from the content provided.
You sound angry. There is timed coded video evidence, which took a couple of weeks to compile complete with the video showing pyrotechnics, fake hands in the coffin, and blood streaming down then streaming up, as in a.i. It defies the laws of gravity. The men on the ground "helping" Charlie are laughing like children. Even Kash hinted as where to find Charlie. That's in there, too. Ever see ARGO? Go rewatch it if you did. Tony Mendez was awesome. Later hater. https://moniquelukens.substack.com/p/i-believed-til-i-didnt-the-disinformation?r=p735p&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Just like WhoDId911? & all the other crimes we are witnessing, without due processing accountability ... That, Obstruction / Cover-upping is the core issue.
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Who Moved The Camera Right Above Charlie's Head? | Candace Ep 239
It's not just this. Her crazy obsession with whether or French President Macron's wife is a man; who cares? Her recent statement that Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Sam Altman are not human, they are hybrids. She's gone off the deep end.
Who cares? Well Macron is the Biden/Starmer/Zelenskyy of France, helping lead the West into a 30-year war with Russia in order to cover up Europe's replacement migration and bankruptcy. I'm not convinced that Brigitte was born a man, but Owens and her French sources have proven beyond doubt that the Macrons are surrounded by pedos and perverts
She's not speculating that they are aliens or robots, she's using metaphorical language to question their connection to humanity and is making an easily understood argument that they are increasingly out of touch with reality due to their unique privilege and wealth.
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like David Icke's 'Lizzard People' / The 'Reptile-Brain'?
Perhaps Candace should simply say/declare such as that:
Some say 'our saviors' & info-platforms are created to capture us, excite us, misdirect us, then discarded disposable to be deleted dashing info gathered along w hope garnered ... merely more distraction to assure our tires spinning so unable to unite our mighty might ever constructing the Accountability apparatus we seek to deal with all the corruption wreaking havoc against US?
Constantly conditioning neutering us brined in collusion shame.
-- can / will we ever break free from corruption's confusion collusion Distraction routine? ;-)
with that said, I do like a lot of the memes Candace shares
John, you might want to chat with Sherrif Mack. Leader of the Constitutional Sherriff's Movement, Sherrif Mack previously lived in UTAH and wants to interview Tyler Robinson but thus far has been denied access. As a retired law enforcement officer, he is not buying the narrative. Mack was interviewed on SGT Report last week.
Hi John, The deliberate obstruction of justice in the Charlie Kirk assassination is a national scandal that reeks of betrayal. It is an absolute outrage that the prosecutor’s filing notes that (conveniently) the shooter is just outside the camera’s view, a tactical lie meant to bury the truth. The object he was carrying off the roof bore no resemblance to a rifle, and couldn’t have been disassembled in time - the story being told by the RINO governor is a gaslighting insult to the intelligence of every American. Where is the footage of the shooter’s approach? Its glaring absence confirms a coordinated cover-up at the highest levels.
The digital evidence alone is damning. Google searches -- originating from Israel and timed after Tucker and Dave Smith humiliated the "war" efforts by Bibi -- targeted not only the shooter but the specific medical responders at the hospital (that wasn’t even the closest or the best level of care). Is this all just a coincidence? It feels a chilling signature of premeditated coordination by hostile parties.
Most grotesque of all was the chief of staff’s despicable abandonment. Mikey's pivot away at the exact moment of the shot, his raising of the phone without dialing, his cold stroll into the parking lot while his boss bled out -- all point to a man acting on a script. Then came the father’s nauseating performance: weeping about his son “covered in blood” when the coward never even approached Kirk. The whole rotten sequence stinks of narrative engineering.
We witnessed a brazen assassination and an even more outrageous cover-up. The American people will not be silenced. We demand a full, transparent investigation -- nothing sealed, nothing redacted, and no one immune from scrutiny. Sunlight is the only disinfectant. The truth will come out.
I understand that Charlie had started an investigation into ginancial irregularities at TPUSA shortly before he was likked. Isn't Mikey the CFO of TPUSA?
What are you smoking? Stop producing conspiracy theories in order to sell your book. You're clearly NOT a forensic ballistics expert, right? Do you even know what subsonic means? If someone hated Charlie Kirk enough to want him dead, then why use a subsonic bullet? Does the bullet the ME said he found in Charlie's neck match Robinson's Mauser? You don't know, right?
I'm no ballistics expert, but I am a former Army Ranger and I've been shooting and hunting and reloading my own ammo all my life. I've seen bullets do strange things insole human bodies.
Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions but putting forth some BS highly coordinated subsonic shooter theory is nothing more than fake news.
How do you explain the clean bullet hole to neck with no exit wound if it was a conventional .30-06 cartridge -- i.e., circa 2,500 fps, 2,200 foot-pounds of energy?
He doesn’t have too. You’re the one with the outlandish theories based upon assumptions that you have made. What we would appreciate you doing is to just be silent let the process run its course. The autopsy is not public information by law in Utah not just for Kirk. There is a massive gag order by the courts ion everyone involved so the alleged shooter can get a fair trial vs being convicted in the court of public opinion like they did in Minnesota against the officer who was following his training in regards to George Floyd. These fantasies are not helpful at all
To be sure, no one has to question the authorities at all. A naive person could assume that the authorities always tell the truth. I don't make that assumption, and when I am told things that don't make sense, I ask questions. That is the point of this column. I have seen .30-06 bullets go through 17 inches of seasoned oak and concrete cinderblocks. A human neck is far more delicate. If you want official narratives, you can always watch the mainstream media, which questions nothing
I deal with facts and reality and I've killed lots of animals and way more people than you in my service to America. I know what bullets do to human and animal bodies. But you're not asking questions to find the truth - you're using questions to promote a conspiracy theory. Why not wait and see what evidence is produced at Robinson's trial. Maybe you can write another book about it but this time using actual facts.
now you've got me genuinely curious! Have you seen a human neck stop a .30-06 bullet? If so, can you describe the condition of the man's neck after it absorbed all of the bullet's energy?
I shot a VC in the neck with a .45 at almost point blank range. It almost decapitated him. Is that the answer you're looking for? What if I said in Charlie's case it was God's hand, a genuine miracle protecting those behind him. You'd howl like a banshee, right? All the facts point to a miracle, right? But you'd throw out those facts because it doesn't fit the narrative of a spook shooter subsonic bullet conspiracy theory. I'll wait until I see the evidence at Robinson's trial but you have a problem with that, don't you. You've clearly got lots of readers who desperately want it to be a conspiracy. Great! They'll buy your book just like they're buying Kamala's book.
Why not listen to the experts, take the Covid vaccine, nine boosters, the new mRNA flu and RSV shots, the hundred other mRNA vaxxes in the pipeline, and hope for the best? It's nothing but rational to question authorities when they don't make any sense. The authorities trying to hang a killing on Robinson may be just as corrupt as the ones who wrongly convicted officer Chauvin.
And the evidence is coming in on how wrong those experts were, right? Why not wait and see what evidence is brought forth at Robinson's trial before you go down the conspiracy road.
I'm surprised --maybe shouldn't be--at the number of comments critical of John for even asking questions. If the official narrative requires a miracle, questions are entirely in oreder! And no, you don't wait for official word; you apply pressure while the case is fresh. Thanks, John!
Since you have been in a position to see the results of what bullets do to flesh basically most of your life, and I have virtually none, please do explain the lack of damage from this caliber.
I have 3 close relatives with decades of experience in a large metropolitan police force who say aside from a miracle, a real honest to God miracle, the damage would have been far more gruesome.
I know my cop friends will welcomeJohn’s theory on where the kill shot originated, cuz they aint buyin the FBI story.
Unfortunately, you are making educated assessments and guesses as if the information so far is reliable and true. There can never be resolution to this under the current situation because no data from either official or non-official sources can be substantiated. That's just the reality at this point. We can't even know if CK is dead or not. All evidence that is reaching the public can be fake. We just can't know at this point. I will say that generally, official narratives seem quite suspect. This is what lack of trust from someone that has consistently broken that trust results in. Skepticism, confusion, anger, frustration and more. Maybe that's an intended outcome.
Because I have seen video of the shooting from various angles in real time and slowed down. The cavitation caused by the bullet swelling his neck up by a significant amount is not something that can be faked.
Thanks Corrin. I tend to agree, but it is curious we're not allowed to know where he's been laid to rest. Considering the amount of media and fan attention around the case it may be even harder to fake a burial.
Considering the number of crazy people out there that were celebrating Charlie‘s death. I think it’s understandable if they don’t want the place of burial to be public or else they would have to have super security to keep people from desecrating the grave.
Well, the crazies will have plenty of other sites to keep them busy. Grok reports there are so far 86 roads streets, schools and monuments proposed to be named or erected in Mr. Kirk's honor, in the US alone. I've read elsewhere there are already two in Israel, dunno about other countries.
I recall the US Navy had a permanent solution to the problem of what to do with a controversial person's mortal remains. They dumped Emir Osama at sea.
An easy way to test this theory is to find out the grain weight of the recovered projectile. If it's heavier than ~200gr than it very well could have been a sub-sonic round.
It's the special subsonic (small charge) propellant, not the grain size. A conventional cartridge with 195 grain bullet still produces velocity of about 2,500 fps.
Good theory John. Not unprecedented. Back in the 70s, when I was a soldier, I was made aware of the use of small caliber (.22) subsonic bullets used in places like Northern Ireland (British SAS) and other places (African conflicts of the 60s and 70s), both pistol and rifle being employed.
Just as a note; There was a classic British rifle (WW2 era) virtually designed for this purpose. Weapons like this both exist and, most likely, have been improved on or customised over the decades by the usual suspects.
I understand charge weight. (side note: I do a lot of reloading) The issue with using a standard weight bullet in a large parent cartridge like .30-06 is that you run the risk of overpressure or failure to ignite due to the large amount of empty space left in the casing. While a load could be worked up using different powder, it would leave evidence of such under spectral analysis.
If I were to plan an assassination using a secongld gunman, I would have the trained shooter use a bolt action rifle chambered in a more easily suppressed caliber; such as 300 Blackout. Both are 0.30 caliber cartridges. If you used a barrel with the same twist rate as the decoy shooter and used the same powder type as what was used in their cartridge, it would become increasingly difficult to detect the evidence of a secondary shooter.
A hollow point that transferred all bullet energy to the neck would have done spectacular damage to the neck, not the clean hole with carotid artery rupture, visible in multiple videos. video footage shot from behind Charlie shows zero deformation of neck.
How can you make ANY of those statements with out an autopsy report . I am a firearms expert and for some one to make those GUESSES and statements is totally reckless and irresponsible !
How do you explain the clean bullet hole to neck with no exit wound if it was a conventional .30-06 cartridge -- i.e., circa 2,500 fps, 2,200 foot-pounds of energy?
Your statement " clean bullet hole to neck with no exit " . Yes I saw a wound on the left shoulder neck area. The appearance was different in two different pictures I saw , one appeared to be AI . The wound as I am told was to the back of the head , and at an angle which I don't know . So that wound your referring to would not be an entrance wound from the information of the level 4 wound to the back of the head . Quit making guesses you only degrade your credibility and supplanting innuendos and not fact only leads to false narration , the same kind a real killer would love to happen to enrage the public for a bias trial . Get al the pieces of the puzzle together FIRST before telling us what the picture is , that last piece of the puzzle can change every thing !
And a link to the wound in the back of the head would be valuable too. Two people who have seen the video recorded from behind Kirk (the guy who took the card from the camera and Candace Owens, to whom he showed the footage) say there was no injury to the back of the head or neck. The unnamed surgeon who said he found a bullet or fragment just under the skin at the back of the neck also said there was no wound in the back. So how does "so I was told" prevail over John Leake's analysis? All of us are trying to make sense of an event that someone likely wants covered up. Detectives too come up with theories, some of which pan out, while others don't.
Nope, not buying it. From the VERY beginning, this whole thing has a fake feeling to it. I'm waiting for someone to come forward and admit there is another story to be told about this one.
FBI Forcing Charlie Kirk Witnesses to Delete Cell Phone Footage That Contradicts ‘Official Narrative’ ?
October 25, 2025
https://vtforeignpolicy.com/2025/10/fbi-forcing-charlie-kirk-witnesses-to-delete-cell-phone-footage-that-contradicts-official-narrative/
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BREAKING, FBI DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE: Ryne Simmons says the FBI tried to get him to DELETE his Charlie Kirk assassination video. Is this why we've gotten so little footage from witnesses?! How many witnesses followed these FBI instructions? Outrageous. Cover-up confirmed?
https://x.com/BasedSamParker/status/1982116671650419109
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When the FBI Director publicly equates those asking questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination with anarchists, that’s a dead giveaway of a 100% cover-up.
Truth doesn’t fear scrutiny—only liars and their lies do.
Have you heard about the gag order? The gag order, issued by Judge Tony Graph without formal requests from prosecutors or defense, restricts over 3,000 potential witnesses, attorneys, and even the media from discussing the case.
Besides, at these Fake Flag shootings the crowd in front are usually Crysis Actors.
Thanks. Highlighting That Obstructionism as the Prime Issue re: The info due processing Accountability we seek. is a nice lighthouse toward peace ;-)
Wow, had not heard about this. It just keeps getting more and more ridiculous and bizarre. Yeah, now we’re moving on to destroying evidence. WTF, Kash.
The BIG MESSAGE is that the whole US Government and FBI are covering this well-orchestrated assasssination up for somebody.
For whom would they do that favor?
It's a short list, isn't it?
Enlighten me!!! I would like to know who makes your shortlist???
But damn those security guys have a LOT TO ANSWER FOR!!!!! Their ineptness at applying pressure to the wound was breathtaking!!!
"Zionist interests" in general are at the top of that short list. Charlie Kirk was turning away from them and was getting a lot of sudden pressure from his powerful donors in that camp, notably Larry Ellison...
Well all I can say is that it is NOT TRUMP!!! Btw EVERYONE in the
DEMON 😈 CRAP 💩 camp absolutely hates Christian’s. Many are known devil 😈 worshippers!!!
It’s for real! In 7 years CK would have been Presidential timber and would be moving us back to a sovereign state that runs on the Constitution!
Here's Charlie Killer!!
"Air Squib"
I'd not heard of air squib before so I looked it up. Very interesting theory. It did not appear that those behind the table where Charlie's body was lying had any blood on them nor were they doing what one would do if someone was shot, like put compression on the wound.
Tyler was not the shooter! This was a well thought out assassination!! It involved Israel and America 🇺🇸 in my opinion!! Charlie was challenging the young kids to question, think and to use common sense! The education organization is big, powerful and extremely influential when it comes to shaping the future minds of our young adults!
Agree. Do you recall that Mossad loaded explosives into cell phones and delivered them to their enemies and triggered an explosion! CK was wearing a recorder that was tampered with in the same way and the brownshiter triggered the device. How else would all his neck vertebrae be destroyed?
Agreed!
They couldn't have CK changing his mind and influencing all those kids
No, it’ didn’t. What foolhardy craziness are you all buying into ? What nonsense . I must have fallen into the Flat Earth society and the We never walked on the moon craziness. Absurd.
…there have been enough fantastic lies and manipulation from “government” over the years, it would come as little surprise to learn that the earth is flat, that we never walked on the moon, and that the video camera seen being removed by staff from behind where Charlie had been sitting is in fact a holographic projector used to project what was just a hologram of Charlie within that holographic-projection canopy/stage… and that he’s alive and well in some secret retreat somewhere exotic like down in New Zealand …
@ManAliveNoMyth - Like the holograms of the 911 planes disappearing "into" (and thus defying gravity) a building planted with bombs. Tragic. RIP to those in the building. In this case, Charlie was present. Many of us believe he had an air squib on, then a.i. was added.
Like I said - this has turned into lunacy.
As in moon-landing lunar-cy?
And to Monica who blocked me because she think’s I’m a “plant or a bot” I’m not either, I’m just me. Some people here are a little hysterical and afraid. It’s odd.
I gather you're another plant - spook attempting to make those, who call it out, look bad. I block bots like you.
Another hater? Please comb through the videos on my analysis. Actually, here's one of Dr. James Fetzer, Ph.D. analysis: https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2025/10/charlie-kirk-assassination-hoax-exposed-no-blood-fake-footage-mossad-plot-zionist-money-video-3847481.html. Though I'm not smitten of the platform, 42K have viewed it. The truth cat is out of the bag.
Latest from Candace Owens (a friend of Kirk who's been spot on regarding Kirk's break with Israel and other aspects of the case) is that the whole story of Robinson's father fingering his son is wrong. It was the "family friend," a former law enforcement officer, who went to the father, told him LE believed Tyler was the shooter, and convinced Tyler (who proclaimed his innocence) to surrender in order to avoid a violent (fatal?) arrest. Apparently, Tyler Robinson has never set foot at UVU, let alone its rooftops, having spent his single semester of college at Utah State, not Utah Valley, but he was near UVU that day, at the nearby Dairy Queen, for one thing. Like John Leake and most knowledgeable observers, Owens believes Kirk was shot with something less powerful than a 30.06. And my odd observation: what is it about K-surnames? JFK, RFK, MLK, CJK?
Not buying any of it . No autopsy really ?!! … just the surgeon’s word ? Clown 🤡 world .
I think we are into a "Grassy knoll" situation in Charlie's assassination.
I have studied the JFK assassination in quite a lot of detail and depth. There is no question that there were a minimum of three active professional snipers who shot at Kennedy and Governor Connolly, and possibly more than three. JFK was hit four times. Governor Connely was hit at least two, probably three times. The last two shots were fired so nearly simultaneously that very few people realized that two shots had been fired directly at JFK's head, after he'd been already hit in the upper back and in the neck. The third shot came from in front and slightly to the right (the gunman behind the stockade fence of the Grassy Knoll) and the final shot came from behind Kennedy. Read Last Second in Dallas by Josiah Thompson for all the gruesome details.
John will write one of the true crime books. He is young enough so that he may get to interview some witnesses and onlookers at some point.
I hope he does. He's such a fine researcher and writer. My only concern would be for his health, as the people who murdered Mr. Kirk cannot ever let their crimes be exposed.
Maybe when John is a lot older, it won't be so controversial, and he can.
One thing is certain. If the FBI has Tyler’s rifle and the bullet it should be easy to rule in or out if the bullet came out of that gun.
I am not technical at all, but I am logical. I also wondered, if the FBI had the weapon, then shouldn’t they have made a match with “ miracle bullet “ already? I wondered why it seemed that no one in the media was discussing this basic point?
Additionally, the photos the FBI has shown us don’t match Tyler face and body, as most anyone can see. And the clothing their suspect wore, does not match the infamous Dairy Queen photo that was widely circulated in the Orem community. And now the judge is trying to gag that community and trying to convince a community of Mormons ( who in my experience are as a group, very truthful and dependable) that they shouldn’t be speaking up? So just take another innocent life ( Robinson’s) for a political agenda ? All trying to make us not believe our own common sense. This sure looks like a cover up to me.
This is just all pure rot coming from our rulers.
Where is evidence of this bullet? Is there a reason there is no talk of what happened on stage was theatrics?
https://moniquelukens.substack.com/p/i-believed-til-i-didnt-the-disinformation?r=p735p&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Theatrics? How so? The problem with you and so many others judging ppls behavior while there’s a shooting in progress, thousands of ppl present, cameras on everything, which adds more horror to what’s happening…the list goes on, but the judgment of their “theatrics” is absurd. The fact of the matter is, when ppl are under that much duress, they fall back to doing what they’re used to doing. Period. It’s a way to seek normalcy, a defense mechanism. Watch the video of an immigrant walking onto a playground in France and then stabbing a bunch of kids, then ask yourself if THAT was theatrics as well. While this man stabbed his way through the playground, ppl witnessing this, utterly horrified, they didn’t run. Didn’t scream. Didn’t even attempt to protect their CHILDREN. One guy still climbed up and then went down the slide, even as he watched this lunatic go after ppl. The behaviors by the victims and witnesses doesn’t mean they’re bad ppl who don’t care about children, nor does it mean they’re cowards, it means that went a switch gets flipped in your brain, you fall to whatever level your ancestral brain is at. Without thinking. Some ppl on that playground turned to stone, they froze, which is THE most common reaction from ppl in fight or flight.
So, to answer your questing about why there’s no talk of the “theatrics”, here’s one possible (and likely) answer: bc anyone who has been through something similar to that (as I have—a shooting at Underground Atlanta years ago) understands that these behaviors ppl exhibit under duress cannot be judged accurately by ppl who haven’t experienced that kind of fear. YOU are judging these ppl based on what you think YOU would do in that situation, and I’m telling you right now that you’re wrong. You won’t do what you think you’ll do, you’ll do something you can’t understand yourself, and then you’ll be judged by a bunch of idiots on the internet who think they have the “right formula” for how one should behave when they witness a public assassination. In short, most of us know better than that bullshit, so the claim that this was “theatrics” is just retarded. The Dunning-Krueger effect…highly recommend you Google it.
Btw Interesting that a person of your stature would use the highly offensive "r" word, which makes me wonder if you're not here to throw people off from the content provided.
You sound angry. There is timed coded video evidence, which took a couple of weeks to compile complete with the video showing pyrotechnics, fake hands in the coffin, and blood streaming down then streaming up, as in a.i. It defies the laws of gravity. The men on the ground "helping" Charlie are laughing like children. Even Kash hinted as where to find Charlie. That's in there, too. Ever see ARGO? Go rewatch it if you did. Tony Mendez was awesome. Later hater. https://moniquelukens.substack.com/p/i-believed-til-i-didnt-the-disinformation?r=p735p&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Miss direction!
Well put. I will remember this. It makes sense and explains why military and police have to be trained to react correctly. It's not natural.
Just like WhoDId911? & all the other crimes we are witnessing, without due processing accountability ... That, Obstruction / Cover-upping is the core issue.
--- anyways:
@RealCandaceO
Who Moved The Camera Right Above Charlie's Head? | Candace Ep 239
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LrGha11vgms
Candace is mentally ill. I wish she would be quiet.
From a person who obviously did not watch closely what she presented!!! Fact upon fact!!!
You made me think: she/that video, could be A.I. ?
and for that matter, even You or I ? ;-)
How do We know?
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Bob Bowman Stays On Point!
https://youtu.be/ZToRnx8rwHs
We Need To KNow!
Q;o)
That's correct. With the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, the U.S. can unleash propaganda on their own people, too. Time for that to be removed. President Obama put it in. A.I. deep faking is dangerous. Denmark plans to make it illegal: https://apnews.com/article/deepfake-denmark-ai-artificial-intelligence-misinformation-73ed761617ebbdb8382086287530a7f6
Thanks. Yes. An 'inside baseball rules' / confession of current Corruption Rule.
Who's on First
https://youtu.be/sYOUFGfK4bU
i.e. corruption's confusion collusion Distraction routine ;-)
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WhoDid911?
IDenemy
It's not just this. Her crazy obsession with whether or French President Macron's wife is a man; who cares? Her recent statement that Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Sam Altman are not human, they are hybrids. She's gone off the deep end.
If they got the covid shot, perhaps they are....):
Who cares? Well Macron is the Biden/Starmer/Zelenskyy of France, helping lead the West into a 30-year war with Russia in order to cover up Europe's replacement migration and bankruptcy. I'm not convinced that Brigitte was born a man, but Owens and her French sources have proven beyond doubt that the Macrons are surrounded by pedos and perverts
Just look at “her” high school photos ! Of course she was born a man!
HYBRIDS: Candace Says Thiel, Musk Altman NOT HUMAN
https://youtu.be/2r4XlWwsgFo
Oct 27, 2025
@jarrettmcallister9417
She's not speculating that they are aliens or robots, she's using metaphorical language to question their connection to humanity and is making an easily understood argument that they are increasingly out of touch with reality due to their unique privilege and wealth.
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like David Icke's 'Lizzard People' / The 'Reptile-Brain'?
Perhaps Candace should simply say/declare such as that:
metaphorical language
and go on with the show?
re: 'hybrids'
If true: Wow! Why go so 'out-there' / more distraction fragmentation-nades? ;-)
Please share link to that!
Thank You ;-)
Some say 'our saviors' & info-platforms are created to capture us, excite us, misdirect us, then discarded disposable to be deleted dashing info gathered along w hope garnered ... merely more distraction to assure our tires spinning so unable to unite our mighty might ever constructing the Accountability apparatus we seek to deal with all the corruption wreaking havoc against US?
Constantly conditioning neutering us brined in collusion shame.
-- can / will we ever break free from corruption's confusion collusion Distraction routine? ;-)
with that said, I do like a lot of the memes Candace shares
The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we
call the reality-based community,' which he
defined as people who 'believe that solutions
emerge from your judicious study of discernible
reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world
really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an
empire now, and when we act, we create our own
reality. And while you're studying that
reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act
again, creating other new realities, which you can
study too, and that's how things will sort out.
We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will
be left to just study what we do'
from Ron Suskind Article - Oct. 17, 2004
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/faith-certainty-and-the-presidency-of-george-w-bush.html
~ DyingForDistractions!
--- can / will we ever break free from corruption's confusion collusion Distraction routine? ;-)
I certainly hope so.
Wasn't the aide in question G. W. Bush's advisor Karl Rove, the man Bush lovingly nicknamed Turd Blossom?
Hi,
I think you are correct, Sir! ;-)
It was a professional hit.
This video shows a flash just as the gun is heard and Charlie seems to freeze up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbaQadkqkzI
The subterfuge is so very alarming. I do not trust the FBI or CIA yet...Will we ever be able to trust those agencies?
John, you might want to chat with Sherrif Mack. Leader of the Constitutional Sherriff's Movement, Sherrif Mack previously lived in UTAH and wants to interview Tyler Robinson but thus far has been denied access. As a retired law enforcement officer, he is not buying the narrative. Mack was interviewed on SGT Report last week.
Hi John, The deliberate obstruction of justice in the Charlie Kirk assassination is a national scandal that reeks of betrayal. It is an absolute outrage that the prosecutor’s filing notes that (conveniently) the shooter is just outside the camera’s view, a tactical lie meant to bury the truth. The object he was carrying off the roof bore no resemblance to a rifle, and couldn’t have been disassembled in time - the story being told by the RINO governor is a gaslighting insult to the intelligence of every American. Where is the footage of the shooter’s approach? Its glaring absence confirms a coordinated cover-up at the highest levels.
The digital evidence alone is damning. Google searches -- originating from Israel and timed after Tucker and Dave Smith humiliated the "war" efforts by Bibi -- targeted not only the shooter but the specific medical responders at the hospital (that wasn’t even the closest or the best level of care). Is this all just a coincidence? It feels a chilling signature of premeditated coordination by hostile parties.
Most grotesque of all was the chief of staff’s despicable abandonment. Mikey's pivot away at the exact moment of the shot, his raising of the phone without dialing, his cold stroll into the parking lot while his boss bled out -- all point to a man acting on a script. Then came the father’s nauseating performance: weeping about his son “covered in blood” when the coward never even approached Kirk. The whole rotten sequence stinks of narrative engineering.
We witnessed a brazen assassination and an even more outrageous cover-up. The American people will not be silenced. We demand a full, transparent investigation -- nothing sealed, nothing redacted, and no one immune from scrutiny. Sunlight is the only disinfectant. The truth will come out.
I would be curious as to whether or not Mikey or pastor dad receive funding from foreign sources. Neither appears to be reliable.
I understand that Charlie had started an investigation into ginancial irregularities at TPUSA shortly before he was likked. Isn't Mikey the CFO of TPUSA?
What are you smoking? Stop producing conspiracy theories in order to sell your book. You're clearly NOT a forensic ballistics expert, right? Do you even know what subsonic means? If someone hated Charlie Kirk enough to want him dead, then why use a subsonic bullet? Does the bullet the ME said he found in Charlie's neck match Robinson's Mauser? You don't know, right?
I'm no ballistics expert, but I am a former Army Ranger and I've been shooting and hunting and reloading my own ammo all my life. I've seen bullets do strange things insole human bodies.
Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions but putting forth some BS highly coordinated subsonic shooter theory is nothing more than fake news.
How do you explain the clean bullet hole to neck with no exit wound if it was a conventional .30-06 cartridge -- i.e., circa 2,500 fps, 2,200 foot-pounds of energy?
He doesn’t have too. You’re the one with the outlandish theories based upon assumptions that you have made. What we would appreciate you doing is to just be silent let the process run its course. The autopsy is not public information by law in Utah not just for Kirk. There is a massive gag order by the courts ion everyone involved so the alleged shooter can get a fair trial vs being convicted in the court of public opinion like they did in Minnesota against the officer who was following his training in regards to George Floyd. These fantasies are not helpful at all
To be sure, no one has to question the authorities at all. A naive person could assume that the authorities always tell the truth. I don't make that assumption, and when I am told things that don't make sense, I ask questions. That is the point of this column. I have seen .30-06 bullets go through 17 inches of seasoned oak and concrete cinderblocks. A human neck is far more delicate. If you want official narratives, you can always watch the mainstream media, which questions nothing
I deal with facts and reality and I've killed lots of animals and way more people than you in my service to America. I know what bullets do to human and animal bodies. But you're not asking questions to find the truth - you're using questions to promote a conspiracy theory. Why not wait and see what evidence is produced at Robinson's trial. Maybe you can write another book about it but this time using actual facts.
now you've got me genuinely curious! Have you seen a human neck stop a .30-06 bullet? If so, can you describe the condition of the man's neck after it absorbed all of the bullet's energy?
I shot a VC in the neck with a .45 at almost point blank range. It almost decapitated him. Is that the answer you're looking for? What if I said in Charlie's case it was God's hand, a genuine miracle protecting those behind him. You'd howl like a banshee, right? All the facts point to a miracle, right? But you'd throw out those facts because it doesn't fit the narrative of a spook shooter subsonic bullet conspiracy theory. I'll wait until I see the evidence at Robinson's trial but you have a problem with that, don't you. You've clearly got lots of readers who desperately want it to be a conspiracy. Great! They'll buy your book just like they're buying Kamala's book.
Why not listen to the experts, take the Covid vaccine, nine boosters, the new mRNA flu and RSV shots, the hundred other mRNA vaxxes in the pipeline, and hope for the best? It's nothing but rational to question authorities when they don't make any sense. The authorities trying to hang a killing on Robinson may be just as corrupt as the ones who wrongly convicted officer Chauvin.
And the evidence is coming in on how wrong those experts were, right? Why not wait and see what evidence is brought forth at Robinson's trial before you go down the conspiracy road.
I'm surprised --maybe shouldn't be--at the number of comments critical of John for even asking questions. If the official narrative requires a miracle, questions are entirely in oreder! And no, you don't wait for official word; you apply pressure while the case is fresh. Thanks, John!
Buck, if you know the experts were wrong in the Chauvin case and as a result he's in prison, from where do you get your faith in the judicial system?
Since you have been in a position to see the results of what bullets do to flesh basically most of your life, and I have virtually none, please do explain the lack of damage from this caliber.
I have 3 close relatives with decades of experience in a large metropolitan police force who say aside from a miracle, a real honest to God miracle, the damage would have been far more gruesome.
I know my cop friends will welcomeJohn’s theory on where the kill shot originated, cuz they aint buyin the FBI story.
Unfortunately, you are making educated assessments and guesses as if the information so far is reliable and true. There can never be resolution to this under the current situation because no data from either official or non-official sources can be substantiated. That's just the reality at this point. We can't even know if CK is dead or not. All evidence that is reaching the public can be fake. We just can't know at this point. I will say that generally, official narratives seem quite suspect. This is what lack of trust from someone that has consistently broken that trust results in. Skepticism, confusion, anger, frustration and more. Maybe that's an intended outcome.
I agree there’s a lot of uncertainty without a lot of facts but one thing I’m pretty sure of is that Charlie is dead.
What convinces you he's dead, Corrin?
Because I have seen video of the shooting from various angles in real time and slowed down. The cavitation caused by the bullet swelling his neck up by a significant amount is not something that can be faked.
Thanks Corrin. I tend to agree, but it is curious we're not allowed to know where he's been laid to rest. Considering the amount of media and fan attention around the case it may be even harder to fake a burial.
Considering the number of crazy people out there that were celebrating Charlie‘s death. I think it’s understandable if they don’t want the place of burial to be public or else they would have to have super security to keep people from desecrating the grave.
Well, the crazies will have plenty of other sites to keep them busy. Grok reports there are so far 86 roads streets, schools and monuments proposed to be named or erected in Mr. Kirk's honor, in the US alone. I've read elsewhere there are already two in Israel, dunno about other countries.
I recall the US Navy had a permanent solution to the problem of what to do with a controversial person's mortal remains. They dumped Emir Osama at sea.
An easy way to test this theory is to find out the grain weight of the recovered projectile. If it's heavier than ~200gr than it very well could have been a sub-sonic round.
It's the special subsonic (small charge) propellant, not the grain size. A conventional cartridge with 195 grain bullet still produces velocity of about 2,500 fps.
Good theory John. Not unprecedented. Back in the 70s, when I was a soldier, I was made aware of the use of small caliber (.22) subsonic bullets used in places like Northern Ireland (British SAS) and other places (African conflicts of the 60s and 70s), both pistol and rifle being employed.
Just as a note; There was a classic British rifle (WW2 era) virtually designed for this purpose. Weapons like this both exist and, most likely, have been improved on or customised over the decades by the usual suspects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine#:~:text=The%20De%20Lisle%20carbine%20or,the%20quietest%20firearms%20ever%20made.&text=Ford%20Dagenham%3A%20Winchester%20rifle%20sight,*)%2C%20windage%20adjustable%20front%20sight.&text=Few%20were%20manufactured%20as%20their%20use%20was%20limited%20to%20specialist%20military%20units.
The Japanese Army in WW2 used a cartridge slightly larger than a .22, at .264 in.
I understand charge weight. (side note: I do a lot of reloading) The issue with using a standard weight bullet in a large parent cartridge like .30-06 is that you run the risk of overpressure or failure to ignite due to the large amount of empty space left in the casing. While a load could be worked up using different powder, it would leave evidence of such under spectral analysis.
If I were to plan an assassination using a secongld gunman, I would have the trained shooter use a bolt action rifle chambered in a more easily suppressed caliber; such as 300 Blackout. Both are 0.30 caliber cartridges. If you used a barrel with the same twist rate as the decoy shooter and used the same powder type as what was used in their cartridge, it would become increasingly difficult to detect the evidence of a secondary shooter.
...unless it was a "hollow point" bullet, which would have shattered inside the target; explains "no exit wond" and Charlie's immediate death.
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A hollow point that transferred all bullet energy to the neck would have done spectacular damage to the neck, not the clean hole with carotid artery rupture, visible in multiple videos. video footage shot from behind Charlie shows zero deformation of neck.
The whole narrative is bullshit from start to finish... 30 aught 6 and no exit wound gtfooh
Tyler Robinson doesn't make sense as the killer. Have you seen Chris Martenson's reports on this:
https://peakprosperity.com/search/?pp_posts%5Bquery%5D=Kirk
https://peakprosperity.com/solved-analysis-reveals-kirk-killed-by-rifle-round-but-not-from-robinsons-position/
How can you make ANY of those statements with out an autopsy report . I am a firearms expert and for some one to make those GUESSES and statements is totally reckless and irresponsible !
How do you explain the clean bullet hole to neck with no exit wound if it was a conventional .30-06 cartridge -- i.e., circa 2,500 fps, 2,200 foot-pounds of energy?
Your statement " clean bullet hole to neck with no exit " . Yes I saw a wound on the left shoulder neck area. The appearance was different in two different pictures I saw , one appeared to be AI . The wound as I am told was to the back of the head , and at an angle which I don't know . So that wound your referring to would not be an entrance wound from the information of the level 4 wound to the back of the head . Quit making guesses you only degrade your credibility and supplanting innuendos and not fact only leads to false narration , the same kind a real killer would love to happen to enrage the public for a bias trial . Get al the pieces of the puzzle together FIRST before telling us what the picture is , that last piece of the puzzle can change every thing !
I'd be grateful for link to video showing "wound on left shoulder." Many thanks!
And a link to the wound in the back of the head would be valuable too. Two people who have seen the video recorded from behind Kirk (the guy who took the card from the camera and Candace Owens, to whom he showed the footage) say there was no injury to the back of the head or neck. The unnamed surgeon who said he found a bullet or fragment just under the skin at the back of the neck also said there was no wound in the back. So how does "so I was told" prevail over John Leake's analysis? All of us are trying to make sense of an event that someone likely wants covered up. Detectives too come up with theories, some of which pan out, while others don't.
...wondering if the "lack of exit wound" and also Cahrlie's immediate death would be explained by use of a "hollow point" bullet???
A hollow point that transferred all energy to neck would've done spectacular damage