As a former US Army Ranger, I have questioned in other comments how a 30.06 round traveling at over 2,000 fps did not pass through Charlie's neck as the ME has stated. The mass of that round traveling at more than the twice the speed of sound should have almost decapitated poor Charlie. Had it passed through his neck it could have killed someone else. I used to teach the NRA Safe Hunter course, and one of the things we taught was "Where will that bullet go if you miss?" Make sure of your backstop.
I am also a Christian and after prayerfully considering this event, I believe we witnessed a miracle and the hand of God keeping that bullet from killing others.
I also believe God spared President Trump's life at Butler, PA. Crooks fired eight 5.56 rounds from his AR-15 and killed one man and injured two others before a Secret Service sniper killed him.
Those who aren't believers may be asking that if we witnessed miracles, why was President Trump's life spared and Charlie killed? Doesn't seem fair, does it? Certainly not by earthly standards. But Christians know that God has His purposes, and can see how both those events have worked to His glory - just look at the religious revival taking place right now, not just in America but around the world.
Charlie's widow Erika was leaning on Jesus and drawing strength from Him as she forgave Robinson. Non-believers don't understand how she could have forgiven the killer of her husband but it's simple. If you want God to forgive you for your sins, then you must forgive others for theirs. On the cross, Jesus asked His heavenly father to forgive those who were killing Him. If you call yourself a Christian, then that's how you follow Christ. Not just in words, but in actions
God is good and all good things come from Him. Much good has already come from Charlie's being martyred. When have you ever heard high level US government officials mentioning Jesus and His Gospel publically. God is returning the United States to "One nation under God". The question is not do you believe in God. The question many should be asking is "Can I afford NOT to believe in God."
I am going to continue to make this unpopular statement: It is unAmerican to convict Tyler Robinson in the court of public opinion. Even if Mrs Kirk wanted to display Christlike forgiveness it was inappropriate prior to an actual conviction. It strikes me as just doubling and tripling down on the one “sanctioned” theory of the crime — a lone gunman with private sexual motives — actually by both “right and left”. I remain highly skeptical, as a conservative Christian, I’ll add.
I agree. Because a very sympathetic figure, ( and very deservedly so) the grief stricken widow has called out Tyler Robinson as the murderer to millions of likewise grieving citizens, this really smacks of Psyops. Bigtime. I think it is fair to say at this point, a fair trial for the young man in custody is now virtually impossible.
And while I am so very sad and distraught over this brutal killing, it smacks of the Kennedy assassination.
And the Turning Points memorial? While a few of the speakers were excellent ( Tulsi and RFKJr) and it was beyond wonderful to see the turnout, the service I thought on the whole was tasteless, including vapid remarks by DJT and his son. The fireworks going off? That’s for political rallies not memorial services. It all rubbed me as so wrong. Who vetted Mrs. Kirks remarks? She should have had more support with her remarks.
Okay: when you don’t like what somebody is saying one solution is to just kill that person to silence them.. The Jewish leaders of Jesus day did not like what he was saying so they killed him (or used the Roman authorities to get the deed done you might say.)
This was a sly reference to the fact that the Israeli government had its reasons to be involved in Charlie‘s death and silence—not his Christian evangelism but rather — his criticism of the outsized influence they play in our govt.
You have a widow(assumed and alleged) with two children. Would you not expect her initial shock (assumed and alleged) to have gravitated rapidly to grievous wailing and almost unintelligible vocalization of the event and result (assumed and alleged). I may be all wet but I did not see this expected outpouring from the widow (assumed and alleged).
Well, I said “I agree” with the initial criticism. I’ve only added my personal take since the shooter’s name wasn’t mentioned. You take it to mean Tyler, I take it to mean whoever the assassin was.
I think everyone thinks that the meaning was Tyler, so you can consider me an “outlier".
So, I’ve gone back and looked at the clip, she says “This young man”. That pretty much nails it — with or without a name and with or without my personal take, which looks more like what I wish she would have said and that’s wrong. The original poster is right, she should not have done it.
I will be interested in further comments from her regarding the shooter.
That young man admitted guilt. At this point, she does not need to assume a conviction, she is grieving, and forgives the killer. Do we need an autopsy of her words?
I hate to even say it but I wonder if 'she' will get an 'emmy' like O'bummer and Cuomo for their covid performance!
I personally am not buying the grieving widow...good performance...time will tell...psyops are unbelievably immoral and evil and they have no limits to what they will do.🤓
With all sympathies for Mrs. Kirk, she unwittingly gave some jurist an excuse to hang the jury. We do not live in a Christian world; we live in a secular world full of human frailties and evils, and we Christians owe it to each other to help prevent crime. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.
She just saw her husband murdered. How straight could she be thinking. Others in the organization had to have been tasked with helping her through this event which would be viewed by millions worldwide wide and no one caught this error? And no one in the organization thought to organize a memorial service that was more tasteful and less like a Trump rally knowing that the audience would be world wide. Obviously, Mrs Kirk is a beautiful well spoken woman, and frankly, I don’t know if I could have made it to the podium without collapsing so I admire her. And as a Christian we must forgive. Jesus absolutely requires it. I will never forget when Pope John Paul visited his shooter/assailant in his prison call and forgave him and hugged him. A great example. But we don’t know yet who killed Charley.
Charlie was Conservative and helped unite JD Vance and RFKJr to the movement that he believed would be a Turning Point for the USA. Other than Trump's arrogance, I believe the other speakers spoke for Charlie and for themselves. I heard, "We are Charlie" and many will continue in his footsteps.
That is the ultimate spy novel twist. Now I want to be very careful not to slander this woman, however she is going to speak on Charlie’s podcast and I am rather expecting her to try to put to rest the “I didn’t kill Charlie” BBN/bribery issue. Depending on what she says, it could be a betrayal of Kirk’s publicly expressed concerns.
There was no 30-06 bullet hitting him...not even possible...there were probably 2 shooters...one for certain, brown shirt guy, but the other bald guy with the aviator glasses was putting something away also...possible 2 close range shots with unconventional weaponry. It was a total psyop coup similar to JFK but even more brazen as the assassins were right out in the open. See "Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick" on YT...3+ hours😊
They HAVE to tell us what they are doing and have done and will do but they are allowed to hide it in plain sight. Discernment.😎
You are leaving out the parts about Robinson texting that he was the shooter, confessing to his father that he was the shooter, and turning himself into authorities as the shooter.
While I agree that Robinson should be considered innocent of the charges brought against him until proven guilty and we should not be saying that we forgive him of these charges before he is convicted, it does not mean that he is a total innocent who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is known for a fact that Robinson expressed hate for conservative principles and Erika was entitled to forgive that hate against what her husband stood for.
She said she forgave "him". She never mentioned "him" by name. It is you who assumed she was talking about Robinson. Maybe the shooter was a woman?
BTW: There is no such thing as a conservative Christian. That is a media label. There are only two types of Christians - those who say they're a Christian but don't live as one, and those who try to be like Jesus, as Charlie did. Tell me, if you claim to be a follower of Christ, why would you judge others? You miss the whole point of "...judge not lest you be judged".
I agree, but not for the same reason. I think it’s pretty certain he did it, but he has only been charged, not convicted. It seems dangerously close to tainting the jury pool to repeatedly refer to him as the killer until he’s been tried and convicted. Even the most heinous of us is entitled to a fair trial.im no lawyer but that shocked me.
As another commenter stated in another Substack, there were two people on a cross on either side of Jesus. One asked for forgiveness and was taken up to Paradise. The other was not. Jesus forgave the adulterer and told her to go, and sin no more. I, as a Christian, believe that forgiveness requires confession and repentance. If the perpetrator is not interested in your forgiveness, don’t allow hate for that person to consume you. God will, ultimately judge that person. It reminds me of the parable about the man who was forgiven of a debt, but when someone else was indebted to him, he did not forgive. We are to forgive those who trespass against us as we would want our trespasses to be forgiven. This is not blind forgiveness.
I disagree, you can forgive someone who is not repentant. Forgiveness is unilateral. Most people who hurt you do not seek forgiveness or even care if they are forgiven. It is for you, to free you to heal. It doesn’t necessarily mean reconciliation.
She was doing what St Maria Goretti did that earned her a spot in heaven at only 11 years old. She saved herself and her murderer. Look it up. See it from a Christian heart.
Thank you Barbara - also RoseMartyn above - for responding to my post so nicely. I will pray about this, bearing in mind what you've written, in case my opinion is really coming from hardness of heart.
I hoped it gave you some peace. I experienced the murder of a sibling, the nicest, kindest person you could ever meet. He was handicapped. The motive was theft. The murderer got away but we know who it was. The authorities really did not want to pursue it because he was handicapped and you could tell they thought oh well that’s good for him. He’s out of his misery, but he was loved and he was loving.
I had no peace over this. I finally went to a healing prayer team and they said: the first thing you have to do is forgive. I said I couldn’t forgive. I just could not forgive this heinous act. What they told me: if you can’t forgive, can you give it to Jesus to do that for you and I said yes I could do that. then they told me when you give it to Jesus don’t take it back. And they explained how forgiveness is for you. It’s not for the other person so you let God take care of it and His judgements are perfect. It doesn’t mean you don’t work toward justice on this earth, it only means that you accept that ultimately God will serve it up. And remember most times a perp does not care if you forgive. They likely do not think there is anything to forgive and that they are innocent of transgressions so what do they care if I forgive. My prayer team was right. they were right that the forgiveness is for me and to set me right with God. It wasn’t for the perp. I will always feel great sadness when I think of what happened to this dear sweet person who wouldn’t hurt anyone. But now I am no longer a slave to torment. I have, as scripture teaches, the peace that goes beyond understanding.
I share with you what was shared with me by loving individuals who owed me nothing. Hope this helps you as it did me.
Watch this. You may not ever feel the same again. https://youtu.be/FjuZJQdEcdg?si=Yi-R55OF5qhPkFpk. Forgiveness must not be mistaken for permission. Every criminal must be stopped and reformed before ever being allowed to roam freely in society. No MORE repeate offenses! Reformation may be more rigorous than mere punishment. We talk about serving time. How about transformative time. How about spiritual and character markers that must be acquired by effort before your “time” is up.
The video is very beautiful. It made me recall from the far-off days of my childhood at an Anglican school, these words of the Lord's Prayer: "forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us". Thank you for correcting me. Now I also have the challenge of forgiving myself, which the priest talks about in the video. I'm 77 years old.
Ths crack-bang-interval analysis says the gun was 30 yards away, not 150. That's really close to the stage. Where?
More evidence that Tyler Robinson was not the shooter, but just the patsy.
Quote: Smartski@2Smartski·Sep 17
Acoustic analysis confirms shooter was near ground-level, ~70-90ft away — not a rooftop. Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s = 70–90 ft distance (speed of sound @ 82°F = 1141 ft/s) Closest audio clip shows total crack/bang overlap, impact clear = <100 ft https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1969054789376901189
I saw that last week. it is not possible. The hand on the railing does not move from recoil/kick, but Charlie's body is shocked hard by the kick of impact.
There must be more force put into the bullet by the rifle than is transferred to the target at impact. Physics. You may have experienced the kick of a high powered rifle.
"I am also a Christian and after prayerfully considering this event, I believe we witnessed a miracle and the hand of God keeping that bullet from killing others."
That is absurd. But 'God' hated Kirk and had him die???
Yes, the same way the incarnate God-man died a gruesome death at the hands of the Romans and so did his early followers. So today that tiny Jewish sect is a worldwide faith. Funny how that works
Truly incredible how God can turn evil into good. Somebody at the funeral quoted a verse (12,34 of somebook in the New Testmont) about a single wheat seed falling (and dying) yet multiples of life came from that one death.
Bringing good from evil, nobody but God can do it as well.
Read the New Testament, then read the Old Testament. Go to a Bible believing church and observe and listen. Jesus died to save humanity. His killers were you and me because he took our sin upon himself and taught repentance and faith. No one can be saved from death-eternal death, without repentance and faith in Jesus. Prayer changes people. God listens and fulfills his purpose. Charlie said, "Here I am, send me." Biblical
God. The Father, loved His only begotten Son, Jesus, who was to die as a sacrificial lamb paying our sin debt in full. Much good has come from the martyr of Kirk. People who never read the Bible are reading it now and turning to prayer and learning more about the life of Jesus.
Everyone's physical body dies. An all-powerful God would not regard the death of a physical body as significant in the way an an atheist and materialist does. Therefore, your equating of physical death to an act of hate is predictable. This is the simple reality of believers and non-believers, the grateful and the ingrates.
I believe God has been calling certain people home over the past several years. Dr. Chuck Missler went some years back, Dr. Tom Horn was called a couple years ago, and now Charlie Kirk. Their missions in life are done.
I too am a Christian, but an old lady. I believe Jesus is my Savior. I have seen miracles in my life. And I firmly know what the gospel says is true: absent from the body means present with the Lord. But unfortunately I have been through many “conspiracy” theories in my long life that turned out to be true. They have all been orchestrated by the CIA or CIA/Mossad. The most recent Covid debacle killed and maimed millions of innocent civilians worldwide wide and maimed our young troops with illegally forced medical experiments. I do not trust in my government and that includes the present ruling oligarchs. Turning Points USA looks like they are now controlled as is most of our government. I trust only in Jesus who redeemed me with his sacrifice on the cross.
Charlie would have wanted his movement to be a priority. Not the main priority, but Turning Point USA is not going away and going to be seeking truth. That is what Charlie stood for, dialog and truth.
There is also the possibility it was an old round, or a dud (ish) round. While manufacturing is in general very precise things can and will go wrong. 🤷♀️
I suspect it was a non-jacketed hollowpoint fragmentation round, custom loaded, so as to transmit all of the energy into the target and destroy the projectile in that energy transfer.
Custom loading is comon amongst hunters and enthusiasts.
Please remember that as Christians we believe that 1) God has given us free will to choose good or evil ( otherwise there is no such thing as love because without free will there is no love) and 2) Satan is the ruler of this world and will be until the second coming. But the Bible teaches our God works all things to the good for those who love the Lord. It doesn’t teach exactly how, why or when . Unfortunately, it looks to me that in this relentless war by Satan on God’s creation, that sadly at this point in time, Turning Points has been captured.
Sounds like a message designed for Charlie's main constituency. Smells of psyop and coverup. Interesting that more than one individual have been propogating the same, almost identical message. It appears that the perps believe Charlie's followers to be gullible and naive, and unfortunately, if they believe this explanation of a miracle, they would be right.
It glanced of the titanium sapi plate he wore near the upper edge, tumbled, struck his neck at the carotid, hooked in behind that muscle group and impacted his cervical vertebrae at C3-4, stopping there. That’s what high velocity projectiles do.
Army Ranger apparently hasn’t seen a .30 cal deflected by twigs, as they so often do.
Goodie for you. And there's the reality of a 5.56 entry wound at point blank range that sipraled is way up the femer, hooked in the enderside of the rib cage, and exited superior to the opposite clavical.
In the meantime, global corporate and the leftists they own and operate thank you for your support.
I have wondered what if any vest Charlie Kirk might have worn, because your theory is plausible if he had one.
I also do not think his neck was the intended target, and have assumed it was hit as the result of a head shot missing low, a chest shot missing high, or a chest shot deflected and slowed by armor or a hard object.
Watch Paramount Tactical’s three part, frame by frame breakdown. He wore an ultralite titanium chest plate. You can clearly see it jump on impact. Upper left.
I watched it. Wondering how the body armor he showed affixes to the body without straps, etc. Also trying to reconcile the alleged quote from Erika that Charlie absolutely refused to wear body armor and the alleged quote from a close friend that Erika insisted he wear body armor so he did.
He allowed it...or there's nothing he can do about it...swamp not drained...no justice evident...he sure covered the Trumpstein files...would love to know the extent of the leverage they have on everybody...maybe someday...maybe not.😊
YES, YES, this is a video that I described later in these Comments that shows tan-clothes man purportedly using the flat gun against Charlie. There is also a larger, more focused and up-close, almost identical video somewhere out there (sorry, I didn't save it), that I describe later in these Comments. Please also see my Comment further down.
Jennifer, was it on rense.com? That's the one I saw. It's similiar to this one but only about 9 seconds long. I'm 77 yrs old and have seen these psyops so many times before in my life. I never believe what the government puts out there. This time is no different. It's a very sad situation. Blessings!!
Considering that so many people are finding this story hard to believe (including myself), I think it would be a good idea to release the autopsy photos showing that there was no exit wound.
Unfortunately it’s been destroyed, see JFK Facts SubStack edited by Jeff Morley. Chad Nagle wrote a 13 part SERIES on everything these researchers know have been destroyed. I have set my own expectations accordingly
Came first from the camera mounted behind Kirk when examined by TP/USA, then shared with Candace Owens. Alex Jones has now talked to the same TP/USA source. That source talked to the ER surgeon and forwarded the surgeon's analysis to Jones and probably Owens. Surgeon claims the bullet deflected downward off Kirk's spine. Difficult to believe if the round was actually a 30-06 (which can sometimes pierce an engine block, even if the bullet isn't armor piercing). But still, an ER surgeon's report isn't an autopsy.
As I recall, in the initial press conference on the day of the assassination, the Parkland doctors called JFK's throat wound an entry wound. They were later pressed by the Bethesda autopsy team not to repeat that assessment.
A custom lead, non-jacketed hollowpoint fragmentation round could have been loaded and used, and it was from very close, 30 yards, somewhere in the crowd,or one of those big bushes to Charlie's left.
More evidence that Tyler Robinson was not the shooter, but just the patsy.
Quote: Smartski@2Smartski·Sep 17
Acoustic analysis confirms shooter was near ground-level, ~70-90ft away — not a rooftop. Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s = 70–90 ft distance (speed of sound @ 82°F = 1141 ft/s) Closest audio clip shows total crack/bang overlap, impact clear = <100 ft https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1969054789376901189
Truth! Some are saying that they don’t believe that Charlie is dead. That it was fake.
As a Christian we know that he’s alive in Heaven. Knowing that makes the sorrow a bit easier to understand.
Those who are saying he faked his passing did not know Charlie & his deep faith. He would not fake such a thing & hurt others. His belief in God/Jesus would not allow such a lie.
Praying for non believers to find what Charlie preached. Words of the Bible. Not of man.
May God be with us & protect us. May God Bless America & the World.🙏✝️🇺🇸🌍❤️
Saw two gun experts dispute the official story. They said that purported gun would have done far more damage. They say he wore no body armor. They think he was shot from the right behind his ear and the other wound IS the exit wound.
The murder site was never taped off or even investigated. In fact, it was immediately contaminated. Both high definition cameras were removed in under five minutes. The tent and stage were being broken down 10 minutes after the shot. The entire crime scene was gone within two hours, and the site was fully erased—demolished, rebuilt, and reopened to foot traffic—in less than a week. Even a rookie cop knows this is not how you handle a crime scene, especially when it is one of the highest profile assassinations in decades and they STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THE BULLET!!
“In the Charlie Kirk affair, the government of the United States - more specifically the State of Utah - has asserted confidentiality with respect to the life/death of Charlie Kirk. We are now officially in the Twilight Zone.”
You are so right about the loss of trust. The major side effect of such a loss is the spawning of all manner of conspiracy theories in very prolific quantities. That is what we are seeing in nearly all newsworthy events. What does one do when experience says that the official narrative is at least partially if not totally false, or at best it is incomplete? The powers that be that have complained about misinformation have brought it on themselves.
1. Why wasn't there a ambulance on site for that large contentious event?
2. Why didn't they call 911? Instead they carried him to a SUV and drove him...glad there wasn't traffic!
3. Not a single drop of blood on the ground in the path around the SUV... nor on his shoes.
4. Tyler didn't have a rifle with him jumping off the roof... Nor did he toss it to the ground before climbing down. And that text exchange was FAKE
5. The supposed bullet I believe came from the left side of stage (if you're facing Charlie...slightly elevated...you can see a flash of light when he's shot...
6. THIS WHOLE EVENT JUST BROUGHT MILLIONS OF VOTERS TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
Candace Owens saw the video footage from the camera behind Charlie and said there was "no gore" ie no blood. I suppose it is possible that she may simply not have seen a small entry wound depending on where it hit. My current theory matches yours, and explains why hand signals might be required. Those could have coordinated the shooters so that the nearby small caliber weapon sound was masked by the exactly timed decoy rifle shot. I am quite sure that if the claimed weapon and cartridge wasthe actual weapon used to murder Charlie, the damage to his head and neck would have been much more catastrophic. They say the bullet was found within his body. Maybe so. But we cannot believe anything they are saying.
There is a theory that the bullet struck the edge of the body armor, deforming and deflecting upward. That might explain the relatively large entry wound and the lack of an exit wound. I’m not saying it’s correct, but it sounds plausible.
If you find the video clip of Charlie tossing MAGA hats to the crowd before he talked, you can see his body moving, muscle and fat, under his white cotton t-shirt. No body armor apparent.
His wife said in the New York Times interview that he wasn’t wearing body armor and pictures of the back of his t-shirt right before. do not evidence he was wearing any. My husband surmises the round may have been old, the powder old or underweight (it happens) or was a “dud” (for a 30-06) power wise. Stranger things have happened.
Close up assassin with the bullet hitting the left clavicle and being deflected upwards to penetrate the jugular. X-ray of Charles torso would confirm. Which makes sense if it was from a trajectory lower than his shoulder.
"The trouble our Republic is facing now is that so many of us no longer trust our federal and state authorities to tell us the truth. "
how one can still trust anyone in medical field AFTER having millions of dying with WHITE CLOTS generated after the covid genetically modifying injections and NO ONE HEARS ABOUT IT, except for VERY FEW truthful embalmers???
Take another field: GEOENGINEERING with the most recent hearing about it:
John, you beg the question: are all those mercilessly slaughtered by the covid shot , shot to death in an equally heinous, or more heinous, fashion than Charl ie? Both are utter and complete innocents, however much Charlie knew his risks whereas the poor dupes who took the shot simply believed, or were compelled to such a degree to overcome a rational doubt.
The following pointers indicate - to me at least - that we the public have been sold a very big lie.
1. The red liquid from his neck came gushing in one constant 2-second stream, belying the fact that a pumping heart would have sent real blood in a series of bursts
2. He held onto the microphone in his left hand for nearly 2 seconds. Any AI search for the likelihood of this will come up negative. He should have dropped any object immediately.
3. The rush to contaminate the crime scene by disposing of everything there and quickly paving over the area where the police could have found bullet fragments / real or fake blood is criminally outrageous
4. The subsequent drivel about Charlie Kirk possessing bones that stop bullets is the icing on the toxic cake
Given the above, it's now sensible to assume that the jury can only be out on whether CK is alive or dead.
The video I saw showed the bullet striking the neck just below the ear and exiting through the neck on a straight trajectory. The bullet exited the neck beneath the left ear. This is evident because of the blood flow cause by the bullet exiting the wound.
Also, I believe the bullet was not fired from a rooftop because the trajectory angle was not consistent with the straight line of the entrance and exit wound.
At this point I'm not sure the authorities even have the shooter.
Yes!!! If it was a small caliber round they may not have noticed the entry wound. This fits with shooter being man in white shirt standing behind Charlie and to the right.
Ive done a lot of hunting over the past 36 years, much of which was done with 30-06 a lot of it with my own handloads and a variety of bullets and have seen lots of wounds and recovered bullets of different kinds from deer to elk including neck shots. If the story of Kirk’s bullet wound that weve all seen and has been told so far is accurate, the only explanation I can think of that wouldnt have resulted in a massive hole through his neck bones and a near decapitation with a 30-06 is possibly Berger Bullets which are copper hollowpoints that are designed to mostly break apart and dump all their energy on impact. But even those should do far more damage than what we saw. Its going to be hard to believe almost any explanation they give us.
9/11 was FAKE in terms of official narrative explaining it, but yes, it was tragedy used for extremely nefarious purposes by the gov. COVID19 was FAKE and prefabricated including planning AND EXECUTING the APPLICATION of the genetically modifying injections on BILLIONS of people, all against the CREATOR of every single human. All exactly 'arranged' again, by the same gov...
Now this tragedy has clearly again, a political motif, so just wonder, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE USED THIS TIME in order to INFLUENCE the normal people??? Given that the digital technologies are getting beyond human imagination, I'd say, everyone needs to become the biblical 'unbelievable Thomas'.
As a former US Army Ranger, I have questioned in other comments how a 30.06 round traveling at over 2,000 fps did not pass through Charlie's neck as the ME has stated. The mass of that round traveling at more than the twice the speed of sound should have almost decapitated poor Charlie. Had it passed through his neck it could have killed someone else. I used to teach the NRA Safe Hunter course, and one of the things we taught was "Where will that bullet go if you miss?" Make sure of your backstop.
I am also a Christian and after prayerfully considering this event, I believe we witnessed a miracle and the hand of God keeping that bullet from killing others.
I also believe God spared President Trump's life at Butler, PA. Crooks fired eight 5.56 rounds from his AR-15 and killed one man and injured two others before a Secret Service sniper killed him.
Those who aren't believers may be asking that if we witnessed miracles, why was President Trump's life spared and Charlie killed? Doesn't seem fair, does it? Certainly not by earthly standards. But Christians know that God has His purposes, and can see how both those events have worked to His glory - just look at the religious revival taking place right now, not just in America but around the world.
Charlie's widow Erika was leaning on Jesus and drawing strength from Him as she forgave Robinson. Non-believers don't understand how she could have forgiven the killer of her husband but it's simple. If you want God to forgive you for your sins, then you must forgive others for theirs. On the cross, Jesus asked His heavenly father to forgive those who were killing Him. If you call yourself a Christian, then that's how you follow Christ. Not just in words, but in actions
God is good and all good things come from Him. Much good has already come from Charlie's being martyred. When have you ever heard high level US government officials mentioning Jesus and His Gospel publically. God is returning the United States to "One nation under God". The question is not do you believe in God. The question many should be asking is "Can I afford NOT to believe in God."
I am going to continue to make this unpopular statement: It is unAmerican to convict Tyler Robinson in the court of public opinion. Even if Mrs Kirk wanted to display Christlike forgiveness it was inappropriate prior to an actual conviction. It strikes me as just doubling and tripling down on the one “sanctioned” theory of the crime — a lone gunman with private sexual motives — actually by both “right and left”. I remain highly skeptical, as a conservative Christian, I’ll add.
I agree. Because a very sympathetic figure, ( and very deservedly so) the grief stricken widow has called out Tyler Robinson as the murderer to millions of likewise grieving citizens, this really smacks of Psyops. Bigtime. I think it is fair to say at this point, a fair trial for the young man in custody is now virtually impossible.
And while I am so very sad and distraught over this brutal killing, it smacks of the Kennedy assassination.
And the Turning Points memorial? While a few of the speakers were excellent ( Tulsi and RFKJr) and it was beyond wonderful to see the turnout, the service I thought on the whole was tasteless, including vapid remarks by DJT and his son. The fireworks going off? That’s for political rallies not memorial services. It all rubbed me as so wrong. Who vetted Mrs. Kirks remarks? She should have had more support with her remarks.
My sentiments EXACTLY. I only watched parts of it. But I will say, Tucker got in his sly dissent whether people understood it that way or not
Please enlighten us.
Okay: when you don’t like what somebody is saying one solution is to just kill that person to silence them.. The Jewish leaders of Jesus day did not like what he was saying so they killed him (or used the Roman authorities to get the deed done you might say.)
This was a sly reference to the fact that the Israeli government had its reasons to be involved in Charlie‘s death and silence—not his Christian evangelism but rather — his criticism of the outsized influence they play in our govt.
I concur with you on the pyrotechnics at a memorial. Really?!
You have a widow(assumed and alleged) with two children. Would you not expect her initial shock (assumed and alleged) to have gravitated rapidly to grievous wailing and almost unintelligible vocalization of the event and result (assumed and alleged). I may be all wet but I did not see this expected outpouring from the widow (assumed and alleged).
She forgave the patsy. That's easier, particularly if you have been told.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
I agree, but did she name the shooter? I guess it was implied but I (Personally) took it as forgiveness for whoever shot her husband.
She said “this” man. Not whoever or the person who. Or whoever did this. I understood that to mean Tyler Robinson.
Well, I said “I agree” with the initial criticism. I’ve only added my personal take since the shooter’s name wasn’t mentioned. You take it to mean Tyler, I take it to mean whoever the assassin was.
I think everyone thinks that the meaning was Tyler, so you can consider me an “outlier".
So, I’ve gone back and looked at the clip, she says “This young man”. That pretty much nails it — with or without a name and with or without my personal take, which looks more like what I wish she would have said and that’s wrong. The original poster is right, she should not have done it.
I will be interested in further comments from her regarding the shooter.
I don’t need to make a criticism. She’s in distress and I think she’s being handled. and very skillfully handled
That young man admitted guilt. At this point, she does not need to assume a conviction, she is grieving, and forgives the killer. Do we need an autopsy of her words?
I hate to even say it but I wonder if 'she' will get an 'emmy' like O'bummer and Cuomo for their covid performance!
I personally am not buying the grieving widow...good performance...time will tell...psyops are unbelievably immoral and evil and they have no limits to what they will do.🤓
"I am going to continue to make this unpopular statement: It is unAmerican to convict Tyler Robinson in the court of public opinion."
Well done for saying this. I endorse your opinion,
This event has all the hallmarks of a deep state fake.
With all sympathies for Mrs. Kirk, she unwittingly gave some jurist an excuse to hang the jury. We do not live in a Christian world; we live in a secular world full of human frailties and evils, and we Christians owe it to each other to help prevent crime. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.
She just saw her husband murdered. How straight could she be thinking. Others in the organization had to have been tasked with helping her through this event which would be viewed by millions worldwide wide and no one caught this error? And no one in the organization thought to organize a memorial service that was more tasteful and less like a Trump rally knowing that the audience would be world wide. Obviously, Mrs Kirk is a beautiful well spoken woman, and frankly, I don’t know if I could have made it to the podium without collapsing so I admire her. And as a Christian we must forgive. Jesus absolutely requires it. I will never forget when Pope John Paul visited his shooter/assailant in his prison call and forgave him and hugged him. A great example. But we don’t know yet who killed Charley.
Charlie was Conservative and helped unite JD Vance and RFKJr to the movement that he believed would be a Turning Point for the USA. Other than Trump's arrogance, I believe the other speakers spoke for Charlie and for themselves. I heard, "We are Charlie" and many will continue in his footsteps.
100%. Plus, she would NEVER forgive a well orchestrated assassination by Israel, unless, she is herself, an agent.
That is the ultimate spy novel twist. Now I want to be very careful not to slander this woman, however she is going to speak on Charlie’s podcast and I am rather expecting her to try to put to rest the “I didn’t kill Charlie” BBN/bribery issue. Depending on what she says, it could be a betrayal of Kirk’s publicly expressed concerns.
Watching and waiting!😊
😎You know things!
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
I read the range was 140 yards and there was a scope.
There was no 30-06 bullet hitting him...not even possible...there were probably 2 shooters...one for certain, brown shirt guy, but the other bald guy with the aviator glasses was putting something away also...possible 2 close range shots with unconventional weaponry. It was a total psyop coup similar to JFK but even more brazen as the assassins were right out in the open. See "Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick" on YT...3+ hours😊
They HAVE to tell us what they are doing and have done and will do but they are allowed to hide it in plain sight. Discernment.😎
YT 3 hours, I'll give it a start.
You are leaving out the parts about Robinson texting that he was the shooter, confessing to his father that he was the shooter, and turning himself into authorities as the shooter.
He did participate and thought he had done it but he doesn't know...😊
While I agree that Robinson should be considered innocent of the charges brought against him until proven guilty and we should not be saying that we forgive him of these charges before he is convicted, it does not mean that he is a total innocent who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is known for a fact that Robinson expressed hate for conservative principles and Erika was entitled to forgive that hate against what her husband stood for.
Not to worry, I am far from thinking that Robinson is a total innocent.
She gave a good performance. Time WILL tell!😊
She said she forgave "him". She never mentioned "him" by name. It is you who assumed she was talking about Robinson. Maybe the shooter was a woman?
BTW: There is no such thing as a conservative Christian. That is a media label. There are only two types of Christians - those who say they're a Christian but don't live as one, and those who try to be like Jesus, as Charlie did. Tell me, if you claim to be a follower of Christ, why would you judge others? You miss the whole point of "...judge not lest you be judged".
I agree, but not for the same reason. I think it’s pretty certain he did it, but he has only been charged, not convicted. It seems dangerously close to tainting the jury pool to repeatedly refer to him as the killer until he’s been tried and convicted. Even the most heinous of us is entitled to a fair trial.im no lawyer but that shocked me.
As another commenter stated in another Substack, there were two people on a cross on either side of Jesus. One asked for forgiveness and was taken up to Paradise. The other was not. Jesus forgave the adulterer and told her to go, and sin no more. I, as a Christian, believe that forgiveness requires confession and repentance. If the perpetrator is not interested in your forgiveness, don’t allow hate for that person to consume you. God will, ultimately judge that person. It reminds me of the parable about the man who was forgiven of a debt, but when someone else was indebted to him, he did not forgive. We are to forgive those who trespass against us as we would want our trespasses to be forgiven. This is not blind forgiveness.
Charlie redeemed himself before Christ over the last three months when he began intelligently criticizing Israel.
And this is why they assassinated him.
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/perplexity-about-no-apparent-exit/comment/159250610?r=15kudo&utm_medium=ios
It is wrong to forgive someone who is not repentant in my view. Mrs Kirk is doing what is called 'virtue-signalling'.
I disagree, you can forgive someone who is not repentant. Forgiveness is unilateral. Most people who hurt you do not seek forgiveness or even care if they are forgiven. It is for you, to free you to heal. It doesn’t necessarily mean reconciliation.
She was doing what St Maria Goretti did that earned her a spot in heaven at only 11 years old. She saved herself and her murderer. Look it up. See it from a Christian heart.
Thank you Barbara - also RoseMartyn above - for responding to my post so nicely. I will pray about this, bearing in mind what you've written, in case my opinion is really coming from hardness of heart.
I hoped it gave you some peace. I experienced the murder of a sibling, the nicest, kindest person you could ever meet. He was handicapped. The motive was theft. The murderer got away but we know who it was. The authorities really did not want to pursue it because he was handicapped and you could tell they thought oh well that’s good for him. He’s out of his misery, but he was loved and he was loving.
I had no peace over this. I finally went to a healing prayer team and they said: the first thing you have to do is forgive. I said I couldn’t forgive. I just could not forgive this heinous act. What they told me: if you can’t forgive, can you give it to Jesus to do that for you and I said yes I could do that. then they told me when you give it to Jesus don’t take it back. And they explained how forgiveness is for you. It’s not for the other person so you let God take care of it and His judgements are perfect. It doesn’t mean you don’t work toward justice on this earth, it only means that you accept that ultimately God will serve it up. And remember most times a perp does not care if you forgive. They likely do not think there is anything to forgive and that they are innocent of transgressions so what do they care if I forgive. My prayer team was right. they were right that the forgiveness is for me and to set me right with God. It wasn’t for the perp. I will always feel great sadness when I think of what happened to this dear sweet person who wouldn’t hurt anyone. But now I am no longer a slave to torment. I have, as scripture teaches, the peace that goes beyond understanding.
I share with you what was shared with me by loving individuals who owed me nothing. Hope this helps you as it did me.
Thank you again RoseMartyn! I greatly appreciate your insights. So helpful to me personally, and probably to others also who may read these posts.
Watch this. You may not ever feel the same again. https://youtu.be/FjuZJQdEcdg?si=Yi-R55OF5qhPkFpk. Forgiveness must not be mistaken for permission. Every criminal must be stopped and reformed before ever being allowed to roam freely in society. No MORE repeate offenses! Reformation may be more rigorous than mere punishment. We talk about serving time. How about transformative time. How about spiritual and character markers that must be acquired by effort before your “time” is up.
The video is very beautiful. It made me recall from the far-off days of my childhood at an Anglican school, these words of the Lord's Prayer: "forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us". Thank you for correcting me. Now I also have the challenge of forgiving myself, which the priest talks about in the video. I'm 77 years old.
As far as I understand, there is no forgiveness without repentance.
Here is a 15 kg automatic sentry device, which would be easier to conceal and quickly remove. https://www.twz.com/35031/this-portable-remote-weapon-turret-is-like-contra-and-call-of-duty-video-games-come-to-life#:
Ths crack-bang-interval analysis says the gun was 30 yards away, not 150. That's really close to the stage. Where?
More evidence that Tyler Robinson was not the shooter, but just the patsy.
Quote: Smartski@2Smartski·Sep 17
Acoustic analysis confirms shooter was near ground-level, ~70-90ft away — not a rooftop. Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s = 70–90 ft distance (speed of sound @ 82°F = 1141 ft/s) Closest audio clip shows total crack/bang overlap, impact clear = <100 ft https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1969054789376901189
Closer than 70-90...15 feet or so...watch the 'rense' video posted elsewhere.
I saw that last week. it is not possible. The hand on the railing does not move from recoil/kick, but Charlie's body is shocked hard by the kick of impact.
There must be more force put into the bullet by the rifle than is transferred to the target at impact. Physics. You may have experienced the kick of a high powered rifle.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
"I am also a Christian and after prayerfully considering this event, I believe we witnessed a miracle and the hand of God keeping that bullet from killing others."
That is absurd. But 'God' hated Kirk and had him die???
Yes, the same way the incarnate God-man died a gruesome death at the hands of the Romans and so did his early followers. So today that tiny Jewish sect is a worldwide faith. Funny how that works
Truly incredible how God can turn evil into good. Somebody at the funeral quoted a verse (12,34 of somebook in the New Testmont) about a single wheat seed falling (and dying) yet multiples of life came from that one death.
Bringing good from evil, nobody but God can do it as well.
I want to believe the Highest Powers turn all evil into a good but I'm not quite there yet!😎
Read the New Testament, then read the Old Testament. Go to a Bible believing church and observe and listen. Jesus died to save humanity. His killers were you and me because he took our sin upon himself and taught repentance and faith. No one can be saved from death-eternal death, without repentance and faith in Jesus. Prayer changes people. God listens and fulfills his purpose. Charlie said, "Here I am, send me." Biblical
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
God. The Father, loved His only begotten Son, Jesus, who was to die as a sacrificial lamb paying our sin debt in full. Much good has come from the martyr of Kirk. People who never read the Bible are reading it now and turning to prayer and learning more about the life of Jesus.
Truth
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Everyone's physical body dies. An all-powerful God would not regard the death of a physical body as significant in the way an an atheist and materialist does. Therefore, your equating of physical death to an act of hate is predictable. This is the simple reality of believers and non-believers, the grateful and the ingrates.
I believe God has been calling certain people home over the past several years. Dr. Chuck Missler went some years back, Dr. Tom Horn was called a couple years ago, and now Charlie Kirk. Their missions in life are done.
Wow, you are really steeped in religious dogma!
I too am a Christian, but an old lady. I believe Jesus is my Savior. I have seen miracles in my life. And I firmly know what the gospel says is true: absent from the body means present with the Lord. But unfortunately I have been through many “conspiracy” theories in my long life that turned out to be true. They have all been orchestrated by the CIA or CIA/Mossad. The most recent Covid debacle killed and maimed millions of innocent civilians worldwide wide and maimed our young troops with illegally forced medical experiments. I do not trust in my government and that includes the present ruling oligarchs. Turning Points USA looks like they are now controlled as is most of our government. I trust only in Jesus who redeemed me with his sacrifice on the cross.
The false religion looks like it’s rearing its ugly head to me. Praise Jesus! Trust in Him! We already know the outcome… these things may pass.
Charlie would have wanted his movement to be a priority. Not the main priority, but Turning Point USA is not going away and going to be seeking truth. That is what Charlie stood for, dialog and truth.
😊😇🙏🏼
There is also the possibility it was an old round, or a dud (ish) round. While manufacturing is in general very precise things can and will go wrong. 🤷♀️
I suspect it was a non-jacketed hollowpoint fragmentation round, custom loaded, so as to transmit all of the energy into the target and destroy the projectile in that energy transfer.
Custom loading is comon amongst hunters and enthusiasts.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Do more research...personal theories obfuscate...theories need to have multiple unrelated inputs to hold water.💦
Please remember that as Christians we believe that 1) God has given us free will to choose good or evil ( otherwise there is no such thing as love because without free will there is no love) and 2) Satan is the ruler of this world and will be until the second coming. But the Bible teaches our God works all things to the good for those who love the Lord. It doesn’t teach exactly how, why or when . Unfortunately, it looks to me that in this relentless war by Satan on God’s creation, that sadly at this point in time, Turning Points has been captured.
🙏🏼😱🤓😇😎
Thank you!
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
This is a perfect example of spamming a comment thread: repeating the same link over and over and over....
How else are people going to see it...not spam if it's real evidence...best of luck with your trolling.🥸
Maybe do a little research about it instead of just putting in your personal opinion and obfuscating.
Could be a miracle or more of a show by the beast system that we currentlyhave to deal with…when befriending the world, that is
Sounds like a message designed for Charlie's main constituency. Smells of psyop and coverup. Interesting that more than one individual have been propogating the same, almost identical message. It appears that the perps believe Charlie's followers to be gullible and naive, and unfortunately, if they believe this explanation of a miracle, they would be right.
It glanced of the titanium sapi plate he wore near the upper edge, tumbled, struck his neck at the carotid, hooked in behind that muscle group and impacted his cervical vertebrae at C3-4, stopping there. That’s what high velocity projectiles do.
Army Ranger apparently hasn’t seen a .30 cal deflected by twigs, as they so often do.
Not buying it.
Goodie for you. And there's the reality of a 5.56 entry wound at point blank range that sipraled is way up the femer, hooked in the enderside of the rib cage, and exited superior to the opposite clavical.
In the meantime, global corporate and the leftists they own and operate thank you for your support.
I have wondered what if any vest Charlie Kirk might have worn, because your theory is plausible if he had one.
I also do not think his neck was the intended target, and have assumed it was hit as the result of a head shot missing low, a chest shot missing high, or a chest shot deflected and slowed by armor or a hard object.
Watch Paramount Tactical’s three part, frame by frame breakdown. He wore an ultralite titanium chest plate. You can clearly see it jump on impact. Upper left.
Watch the video, this conversation is deflecting.🤓
No plate worn.
You can see it jump. Paramount Tactical went frame by frame.
Yes. I did look and saw that.
I watched it. Wondering how the body armor he showed affixes to the body without straps, etc. Also trying to reconcile the alleged quote from Erika that Charlie absolutely refused to wear body armor and the alleged quote from a close friend that Erika insisted he wear body armor so he did.
It's an undergarment with a sleeve that holds the plate, hence lightweight Their primary concern was close range handgun or a blade.
And there's also others discussing it was his favorite body armor.
Your words spoke to me! All things are possible through Christ!
Beautiful 🙏🏻
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
As President Trump said....that the bullet for Charlie was meant for all of us.
Times 2 as it so narrowly missed Trump at Butler.
And Charles Kirk now became a softer open target sacrifice lamb.
Trump ALLOWED this. His entire FBI is in on the coverup
Eventually this will be opened wider and shall be revealed.
The best of the worst things, often take way too much time.
He allowed it...or there's nothing he can do about it...swamp not drained...no justice evident...he sure covered the Trumpstein files...would love to know the extent of the leverage they have on everybody...maybe someday...maybe not.😊
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
YES, YES, this is a video that I described later in these Comments that shows tan-clothes man purportedly using the flat gun against Charlie. There is also a larger, more focused and up-close, almost identical video somewhere out there (sorry, I didn't save it), that I describe later in these Comments. Please also see my Comment further down.
Jennifer, was it on rense.com? That's the one I saw. It's similiar to this one but only about 9 seconds long. I'm 77 yrs old and have seen these psyops so many times before in my life. I never believe what the government puts out there. This time is no different. It's a very sad situation. Blessings!!
Mabel,
Yes, thank you. Blessings to you, too.
Thank You!🙏🏼😊😎
You are very welcome. Thank you for your research!!
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/perplexity-about-no-apparent-exit/comment/159250610?r=15kudo&utm_medium=ios
Considering that so many people are finding this story hard to believe (including myself), I think it would be a good idea to release the autopsy photos showing that there was no exit wound.
Get in line - still waiting for JFKs autopsy report.
Unfortunately it’s been destroyed, see JFK Facts SubStack edited by Jeff Morley. Chad Nagle wrote a 13 part SERIES on everything these researchers know have been destroyed. I have set my own expectations accordingly
Yes I was being sarcastic.
Is there any evidence that an autopsy was done?
My understanding is that the story that there was no exit wound came from the doctor who did the autopsy.
Came first from the camera mounted behind Kirk when examined by TP/USA, then shared with Candace Owens. Alex Jones has now talked to the same TP/USA source. That source talked to the ER surgeon and forwarded the surgeon's analysis to Jones and probably Owens. Surgeon claims the bullet deflected downward off Kirk's spine. Difficult to believe if the round was actually a 30-06 (which can sometimes pierce an engine block, even if the bullet isn't armor piercing). But still, an ER surgeon's report isn't an autopsy.
The same one that reported on JFK?
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
As I recall, in the initial press conference on the day of the assassination, the Parkland doctors called JFK's throat wound an entry wound. They were later pressed by the Bethesda autopsy team not to repeat that assessment.
They'd need a autopsy for criminal prosecution, I think
There will never be a REAL criminal prosecution and Tyler most likely will not survive.😇
A custom lead, non-jacketed hollowpoint fragmentation round could have been loaded and used, and it was from very close, 30 yards, somewhere in the crowd,or one of those big bushes to Charlie's left.
More evidence that Tyler Robinson was not the shooter, but just the patsy.
Quote: Smartski@2Smartski·Sep 17
Acoustic analysis confirms shooter was near ground-level, ~70-90ft away — not a rooftop. Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s = 70–90 ft distance (speed of sound @ 82°F = 1141 ft/s) Closest audio clip shows total crack/bang overlap, impact clear = <100 ft https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1969054789376901189
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/perplexity-about-no-apparent-exit/comment/159250610?r=15kudo&utm_medium=ios
Truth! Some are saying that they don’t believe that Charlie is dead. That it was fake.
As a Christian we know that he’s alive in Heaven. Knowing that makes the sorrow a bit easier to understand.
Those who are saying he faked his passing did not know Charlie & his deep faith. He would not fake such a thing & hurt others. His belief in God/Jesus would not allow such a lie.
Praying for non believers to find what Charlie preached. Words of the Bible. Not of man.
May God be with us & protect us. May God Bless America & the World.🙏✝️🇺🇸🌍❤️
https://rumble.com/v6ysyp6-charlie-kirk-assassination-fbi-updates-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin.html
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
. . . understatement.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Saw two gun experts dispute the official story. They said that purported gun would have done far more damage. They say he wore no body armor. They think he was shot from the right behind his ear and the other wound IS the exit wound.
And where is the autopsy report???
Two wounds, one we saw, the other we didn't.
Low power, close range, security 'detail' took him out!
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
This;
https://x.com/RealPJGlassey/status/1969248552842117285
The murder site was never taped off or even investigated. In fact, it was immediately contaminated. Both high definition cameras were removed in under five minutes. The tent and stage were being broken down 10 minutes after the shot. The entire crime scene was gone within two hours, and the site was fully erased—demolished, rebuilt, and reopened to foot traffic—in less than a week. Even a rookie cop knows this is not how you handle a crime scene, especially when it is one of the highest profile assassinations in decades and they STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THE BULLET!!
The crime scene handling is so off that alone screams: shut up and believe whatever we tell you to believe. It reeks of corruption.
See also (from a link posted on this thread)
“In the Charlie Kirk affair, the government of the United States - more specifically the State of Utah - has asserted confidentiality with respect to the life/death of Charlie Kirk. We are now officially in the Twilight Zone.”
Literally NOTHING TO SEE HERE...go back to sleep!😱
Oh the surgeon discovered the bullet three days later, “just under the skin”. It’s a miracle!
We've seen this before, haven't we?
You are so right about the loss of trust. The major side effect of such a loss is the spawning of all manner of conspiracy theories in very prolific quantities. That is what we are seeing in nearly all newsworthy events. What does one do when experience says that the official narrative is at least partially if not totally false, or at best it is incomplete? The powers that be that have complained about misinformation have brought it on themselves.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Promote yourself much?
1. Why wasn't there a ambulance on site for that large contentious event?
2. Why didn't they call 911? Instead they carried him to a SUV and drove him...glad there wasn't traffic!
3. Not a single drop of blood on the ground in the path around the SUV... nor on his shoes.
4. Tyler didn't have a rifle with him jumping off the roof... Nor did he toss it to the ground before climbing down. And that text exchange was FAKE
5. The supposed bullet I believe came from the left side of stage (if you're facing Charlie...slightly elevated...you can see a flash of light when he's shot...
6. THIS WHOLE EVENT JUST BROUGHT MILLIONS OF VOTERS TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
7. We are ALL Charlie's now!!!
https://rumble.com/v6ysyp6-charlie-kirk-assassination-fbi-updates-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin.html
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Candace Owens saw the video footage from the camera behind Charlie and said there was "no gore" ie no blood. I suppose it is possible that she may simply not have seen a small entry wound depending on where it hit. My current theory matches yours, and explains why hand signals might be required. Those could have coordinated the shooters so that the nearby small caliber weapon sound was masked by the exactly timed decoy rifle shot. I am quite sure that if the claimed weapon and cartridge wasthe actual weapon used to murder Charlie, the damage to his head and neck would have been much more catastrophic. They say the bullet was found within his body. Maybe so. But we cannot believe anything they are saying.
YESSSSS!
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
There is a theory that the bullet struck the edge of the body armor, deforming and deflecting upward. That might explain the relatively large entry wound and the lack of an exit wound. I’m not saying it’s correct, but it sounds plausible.
If you find the video clip of Charlie tossing MAGA hats to the crowd before he talked, you can see his body moving, muscle and fat, under his white cotton t-shirt. No body armor apparent.
His wife said in the New York Times interview that he wasn’t wearing body armor and pictures of the back of his t-shirt right before. do not evidence he was wearing any. My husband surmises the round may have been old, the powder old or underweight (it happens) or was a “dud” (for a 30-06) power wise. Stranger things have happened.
Could be a custom hollow point fragmentation load. People do custom load cartridges.
That's very possible
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Stranger things DID happen!
Yes, to no body armor.
See the photo of Kirk’s back. It is clear that the T-shirt that he was wearing was not covering up body armor.
No armor worn
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
I suspect the problem is not "that medical examiners are not diligently investigating" - rather that they are not honestly reporting.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Close up assassin with the bullet hitting the left clavicle and being deflected upwards to penetrate the jugular. X-ray of Charles torso would confirm. Which makes sense if it was from a trajectory lower than his shoulder.
video I saw clearly showed his head bob forward indicating a hit below it and from FRONT.
Both sides! Watch.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
https://rumble.com/v6ysyp6-charlie-kirk-assassination-fbi-updates-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin.html
Don't be deceived in multiple theories.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Can’t access because restricted mode is on. Do I have to subscribe to YouTube? Your view Plain and simple deranged kid?
He was a mind-controlled patsy...the vids will probably be available elsewhere, do a general search.👀🥸
This is the most IMPORTANT:
"The trouble our Republic is facing now is that so many of us no longer trust our federal and state authorities to tell us the truth. "
how one can still trust anyone in medical field AFTER having millions of dying with WHITE CLOTS generated after the covid genetically modifying injections and NO ONE HEARS ABOUT IT, except for VERY FEW truthful embalmers???
Take another field: GEOENGINEERING with the most recent hearing about it:
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/geoengineering-report/mtg-hearing-political-theater-geoengineering-report/
it is ALL ABOUT a great THEATER, LIES, lethal ones, like the covid crimes...
The Father of lies...he was a deceiver and a murder from the beginning but he does offer Earthly rewards...so there we are!🤓
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
John, you beg the question: are all those mercilessly slaughtered by the covid shot , shot to death in an equally heinous, or more heinous, fashion than Charl ie? Both are utter and complete innocents, however much Charlie knew his risks whereas the poor dupes who took the shot simply believed, or were compelled to such a degree to overcome a rational doubt.
I am dumbfounded by the inhumanity of both.
on the other hand, I would offer that:
YOUR inference of John's article "beg the question". . .
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
The following pointers indicate - to me at least - that we the public have been sold a very big lie.
1. The red liquid from his neck came gushing in one constant 2-second stream, belying the fact that a pumping heart would have sent real blood in a series of bursts
2. He held onto the microphone in his left hand for nearly 2 seconds. Any AI search for the likelihood of this will come up negative. He should have dropped any object immediately.
3. The rush to contaminate the crime scene by disposing of everything there and quickly paving over the area where the police could have found bullet fragments / real or fake blood is criminally outrageous
4. The subsequent drivel about Charlie Kirk possessing bones that stop bullets is the icing on the toxic cake
Given the above, it's now sensible to assume that the jury can only be out on whether CK is alive or dead.
Good analysis.🧐
Re #4: a “magic bullet” theory isn’t very original, just sayin’
The video I saw showed the bullet striking the neck just below the ear and exiting through the neck on a straight trajectory. The bullet exited the neck beneath the left ear. This is evident because of the blood flow cause by the bullet exiting the wound.
Also, I believe the bullet was not fired from a rooftop because the trajectory angle was not consistent with the straight line of the entrance and exit wound.
At this point I'm not sure the authorities even have the shooter.
Yes!!! If it was a small caliber round they may not have noticed the entry wound. This fits with shooter being man in white shirt standing behind Charlie and to the right.
2 shots..one from either side.
https://youtu.be/fhRZ8ZFN6Ds?si=eUogqnyR7vo6Svk8
Ive done a lot of hunting over the past 36 years, much of which was done with 30-06 a lot of it with my own handloads and a variety of bullets and have seen lots of wounds and recovered bullets of different kinds from deer to elk including neck shots. If the story of Kirk’s bullet wound that weve all seen and has been told so far is accurate, the only explanation I can think of that wouldnt have resulted in a massive hole through his neck bones and a near decapitation with a 30-06 is possibly Berger Bullets which are copper hollowpoints that are designed to mostly break apart and dump all their energy on impact. But even those should do far more damage than what we saw. Its going to be hard to believe almost any explanation they give us.
9/11 was FAKE in terms of official narrative explaining it, but yes, it was tragedy used for extremely nefarious purposes by the gov. COVID19 was FAKE and prefabricated including planning AND EXECUTING the APPLICATION of the genetically modifying injections on BILLIONS of people, all against the CREATOR of every single human. All exactly 'arranged' again, by the same gov...
Now this tragedy has clearly again, a political motif, so just wonder, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE USED THIS TIME in order to INFLUENCE the normal people??? Given that the digital technologies are getting beyond human imagination, I'd say, everyone needs to become the biblical 'unbelievable Thomas'.