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John Leake's avatar

I am not trying to persuade you to believe anything, just reporting that the video images presented by the prosecutor in court and distributed to the media have been distorted.

RoseMartyn's avatar

First off, I am not an expert, just a potential juror of TRs peers, but…

Boy oh boy. Someone is going to need to put hallucinogenics into the water cooler in that jury deliberation room to get them to buy the tale the prosecution is weaving.

JanC1955's avatar

How do we know the photos provided by Owens aren't distorted or touched up or AI or etc.?

Summit Male Medical's avatar

jan you are either blind or a paid shill or bot for israel. Look at all the facts.

JanC1955's avatar

Yep, that's me, Mr. "Male Medical." I'm a blind, paid bot for Israel. Yawn.🥱

ATTENTION MR. LEAKE: You're drawing a collection of nutjobs to your posts with your use of Candace Owens materials.

Summit Male Medical's avatar

Like I said, if your not a bot, you're blind.

JanC1955's avatar

It's "you're" in both instances, Summit. "You're" is the contraction for "you are" ... get it? Check into some spelling and grammar lessons and stop back when you can hurl insults using proper English. No way to reach the summit of male medical-ness at this rate.

CStone's avatar

SummIt is a Muslim pig.

Summit Male Medical's avatar

I won't argue that I'm not an English major. You got me. Guilty. My only skill is recognizing bullshit when I see it and hear it. Covid, lies on 9-11, the fires in Maui, and Charlie's murder to name just a few. I guess my frustration in my comment to you is why you would dismiss Candace's info. She was Charlie's close friend and would like to see the perpetrators brought to justice. She is doing a daily investigation into it and I respect her for it. The information she and others like Baron Coleman and John Bray are mind mending. It's a ton to go over, but when you do, I think it's ridiculous to think he was shot, let alone by this Tyler kid. I get frustrated when people let their prejudices get in the way of factual info. And if you think our government can't be involved in a cover up, see the topics above along with JFK, RFK and so on. This kind of thinking of not questioning authority has gotten us to where we are at in this country.

Jeck's avatar

I agree with Summit Male Medical and Aaron Smith

Aaron Smith's avatar

Way to go, you really showed him. Grammar is a great comeback when you have no leg to stand on because your point is so flawed. HeRes a gimme for your response.

Cg's avatar

The photos presented to the court are completely distorted. Owens looks completely normal. Very easy to tell.

JanC1955's avatar

"Owens looks completely normal." Are you that easily and unapologetically bamboozled? Good grief. Do better.

Cg's avatar

And you’re easily triggered by opposing opinions. Yikes….

JanC1955's avatar

Actually, what I'm "triggered by" is anyone I respect plopping Candace Owens materials, unquestioned, into a supposedly serious blog post. Questioning the issues around Kirk's death is one thing. Jumping into Owens' boiling frog stew is another thing altogether.

Jeck's avatar

You are making the facts which are problematic for the prosecution's case all about Candace, which is "shoot the messenger" bullshit, which is deployed - in every instance - by those who have a motive to support the challenged arguement, which is the prosecution's case in this instance. Why do you support that?

Maria's avatar

I wonder at why Candace wants her story to be true, so very badly? When she first started all this, I thought she and Charlie might have been romantically involved during the early days and she just was distraught over his murder. But where she’s gone is over the top and it’s hard for me to believe that the profitability of the axe she’s grinding is not a motivating factor.

When people get ugly, as she has regarding Erika Kirk, I start to become very skeptical of their motivations. Name calling, insults etc. don’t lend any credibility to you. I guess that’s why I’ve become so skeptical of Tucker as well. Both are exhibiting very narcissistic behavior in their inability to be wrong. It’s become all about them.

Paula's avatar

Thank you John for continuing to cover this story. With your expertise and background, it would be wonderful to have you continue to look at this case. The ‘mountain of evidence’ that the prosecution has claimed shows that TR committed this crime is just not there. In fact, there is a “mountain of coincidences” that argue the official narrative just couldn’t be true. Baron Coleman (YouTube)has done a phenomenal job highlighting these coincidences. And of course Candace Owens continues to seek the truth in this entire charade.

buck rogers's avatar

Can we please just set Owen's aside for now and focus on relevant facts?

I know NOT what qualifies her as anything in this case but a (possibly biased) bystander.

Can a lawyer, please, explain her relevance (to this case)?

Paula's avatar

You don’t have to be a lawyer in order to want to know the truth. I believe this has been what motivates Baron and Candace. And Baron Coleman IS a lawyer, so there’s that…

Constance's avatar

Actually it is BECAUSE of Candace that so much has been discovered, because of Candace this whole open source investigation occurred. And then others like Baron Coleman came along to bolster and support Candace.

RoseMartyn's avatar

Oh pleez….is a math major good enough to have the mental wherewithal to analyze? Or a physics masters? Wouldn’t they be better than an attorney who was an English major? Or how about the military special forces personnel who have vocally supported a very widespread observation that the hit that took CK life could NOT have possibly been accomplished by grandpa’s antique mauser put forth by the official “experts”?

How about John Bray’s lab work on the Rode mic theory? He is an expert witness and runs a testing lab.

With all due respect, stop putting yourself behind that tired worn out “just trust the experts” narrative. It could get us all in a lot of trouble. There were lots of experts in Nazi Germany and the Germans “ trusted “ them to rid them of their problems. They came up with very efficient gasses that proved sooo much better than guns and bullets.

IMHO the just “trust the experts” argument comes from Satan himself. It’s heartless and empty pseudo science and most of us can see this.

Please dear sir or madam, save yourself and your loved ones—-. An innocent man was assassinated in public and now another innocent patsy could be taken out in this murderous scheme.

Please dear sir or madame, please get off that train that wants to take us ALL to hell.

RoseMartyn's avatar

PS

It is our Constitutional right to be tried by a “jury of our peers”. Not a panel of experts.

SteelJ's avatar

Don't like people asking questions and pointing out lies and errors, do you? Why?

buck rogers's avatar

If you believe Owen's is qualified (for whatever reason) that's fine. I admit I'm not a regular listener of hers. When I have, too many times I felt her arguments were weak and/or sometimes unsubstantiated in my judgment. Obviously, as with anyone, my judgment could be skewed just as yours, or Owens' could be as well. In my case, my potentially skewed judgement isn't influenced by my desire for greater public exposure and increased revenue from name recognition (as in Owen's case).

I really couldn't care less about name recognition. I receive no income whatever from Tyler's case, in any manner.

SteelJ's avatar

I appreciate Candace fits her podcasts into 30-40 minutes, then viewer comments, which can be skipped if so inclined. So many podcasters feel compelled to fill 3 hours with drivel, mixed in with ~15 minutes of "meat". Still, she can't have enough solid, new, revelatory stuff to fill even that much time. I've noticed many episodes are filled with "suspicious" actions that prove nothing, but they do add to the weirdness we all notice on the fed slop side. You might have by chance seen mostly episodes like that. While useful, they prove nothing, and if that's all you've seen, your perception makes sense.

Summit Male Medical's avatar

Candice was Charlies friend and is just looking at the clear evidence and it clearly shows nonsense in the government narrative. It's a 100 things that point to anyone BUT Robinson. Wake up

Marge's avatar

It's all too wonky. All of it. The gun, the bullet, the wound, the "assassin", the "boyfriend", the note to the "boyfriend, TPUSA, the re-paved area after Charlie's murder, the removal of the camera behind Charlie by one of the TPUSA employees, the 2 taken into custody (aka distraction) prior to Robinson's surrender, the car ride to the hospital, the coroner's report The pieces don't fit and it smells like smoke straight from the pit of hell. We may never know until Judgement Day

Eye-of-Agamotto's avatar

Exactly Marge! One is odd. Two starts to raise a eyebrow. Three? That's a pattern. The text itself was highly questionable, but these oddities just keep popping up one after another.

RoseMartyn's avatar

And have we forgotten about those goofy bullets with the carvings that the FBI showed us? I mean my teenagers would be laughing if they pulled off a prank like this!!!??

And paving over the crime scene…. Guffaw Guffaw…

I mean they were sooo sooo sooo desperate to rid the world of CK and so full of themselves and their resources, they could have easily poisoned him privately and it would be all over.

Crazy.

Marge's avatar

Charlie was too effective convincing college age students to think for themselves by debating and challenging them on their world view that was indoctrinated by progressive, liberal professors. That age group turned up like no other to vote and assisted President Trump with his 2024 win. That in itself sent the Deep State into a tail spin. TPUSA was growing and influencing high school and college age students, the very age groups targeted by the communists for indoctrination...just like Hitler did. Charlie impacted the political world as well as the Christian world. He was asked what he would like to be remembered for and he told the interviewer his faith, his faith in Jesus Christ. Brilliant, kind, patient. God lent him to us for a very short time. I miss him but I have every confidence that I will see him in heaven

Eye-of-Agamotto's avatar

Again Marge, you're driving that nail firmly into the wood. Mr Kirk was turning their playbook back on them, and they couldn't let that stand for it did the one thing they will not tolerate--threats to their control system.

CB's avatar

“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

― Ian Fleming, Goldfinger

Danny Huckabee's avatar

The photo has obviously been tampered with, so like you, I'm not certain how these photos could prove anything. I'd like to view the video so to watch how the person(s) walk, plus to get possible different views of them.

I don't follow Owens so I don't know what all she's said. But remember, the CIA said for decades that anyone who disagreed with the Warren Report on JFK's assassination was a conspiracy theorist, crank, crazy person. No doubt some were, but Ron Unz has largely proven the CIA killed JFK, with help from foreign sources, so I wouldn't rule out everything Owens says.

Eye-of-Agamotto's avatar

Agree, and like you I don't follow Owens for a handful of reasons. Jim Marrs also wrote a excellent book on JFK (he tends to get discounted for his other books, but I found his research and writing of considerable interest).

Interesting little tidbit. Our gov't has software that can identify a person by their gait or the shape of their ear. Wonder why that isn't being used?

buck rogers's avatar

Do you know for sure that they're not or haven't?

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

My impression is that it is a body double and 10 years older than Robinson. Distorting the images hides the fact.

Lana's avatar

Glad you are reporting on this. It is an obvious flaw in the case against Tyler. One of many images that don't look like him

Mark peter's avatar

The world is a stage, our “government” excels at theatre…just ask nasa…

Flash Gordon's avatar

I think your questions of why the video was even shown in court, as well as your observation about the color of shirt, are huge. The shirt is just too on the nose. What are we even doing here at this point? Also, has there been any amount of verified text messages or other content that use the same Victorian English that the "boys" were sending to each other?

It must be said that Robinson, in terms of character and what he and Twiggs had been up to for the past year or so, sounds a lot like the Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols partnership in some ways; two dudes who were gonna take on and take down "the man" with their devices and science projects. Perfect patsies.

SteelJ's avatar

I have the same question about the text messages. Much has been made about the stilted, atypical language used. Why hasn't my side (it's fed slop) found text messages Tyler sent and shown this was not the way he wrote texts? Why hasn't the fed slop side found old text messages to show this was typical language for him? Seems very weird. Don't we all have trails of hundreds of texts we've sent to various people that could be checked out?

Flash Gordon's avatar

While the messages could, and would, be faked if this was as more and more of us skeptics are coming to believe, what I WOULD put some stock in are credible witnesses that come forward and say, yeah, he and Twiggs spoke like this to each other when I was around. I saw them speak this way on Discord...I have a video where they are speaking this way...

If stuff like that surfaced I would give it a lot of credibility. On the other hand, let's see what happens in court. Will he own the messages and the language? Has Twiggs owned it publicly? Note, however, that if Twiggs was the setup man, the "Israeli" (or whomever) operative, he's not only going to own up to that purpole prose but also would likely be the one who turned Robinson on to using it in the first place. It's all a massive rabbit hole.

Most obvious sign that something isn't right is that Kirk's "security" team did not secure a single rooftop on that campus. This is even more of an obvious gap when you stop and consider that Kirk had spoken at a hundred campuses and public spaces over the years. Did they even once have an incident at any of those previous engagements of catching someone going up onto a roof or doing something that make it obvious that rooftops were a vulnerability? Of course. They probably have internal documents showing security incidents at each and every stop they made. They would want to document this for legal liabilty reasons.

People tend to focus on the event where he was shot as some sort of bubble environment, a one-off, unique set of circumstances like being on the moon. It wasn't. Outdoor security postures are always the same for high-value, high-risk targets. If they are going to be simply transenting through the area, move quickly and have close physical cover. If they are going to be out there for a prolonged period of time, sightlines and rooftops are obvious vulnerabilities. The security failures were obvious and probably obvious for a reason.

buck rogers's avatar

Very unfortunately

Mark Hopkins's avatar

The corrected image shows a man with a square jaw. Tyler has an angular jaw. Compressing the image creates the illusion of an angular jaw. Too bad the image is so poor. With a better one I could be conclusive. I am a professional portrait painter... I( know faces.

Anne McKinney's avatar

👍🏻 Great observation from a professional -- you should send it to them to add to the list of discrepancies. The forensic expert tallied up quite a number on the Julian Dorey interview w Baron Coleman. Very engaging convo.

Lisa Smith's avatar

You may have a point, but if you’re pulling your resources from Candace Owens, you may lose me. Find supporting evidence elsewhere if you want people to believe you.

John Leake's avatar

please let me know if you know of any other reporter who pointed out that the images presented by prosecutor were -- based on car images alone -- heavily distorted.

SteelJ's avatar

Yes. The knee-jerk anti-candicism stance outs people as not to be taken seriously. Disagree with her? Fine. Demonize her? No. She's done more to expose the holes in the "lone nut acting alone" narrative than anyone. Those who attack her are either ignorant, or don't want the truth to come out.

Lisa Smith's avatar

I do not. I am open to hearing of other reporters and would be interested in the evidence, but I would have to have other sources besides Candice.

Constance's avatar

It’s BECAUSE of Candace that we even HAVE this open source investigation. Candace started it and otters have joined her in the effort. I can see many people have been tainted by negative msm press on Candace. And now the paid influencers are piling it on.

Don’t judge until youve actually watched/listened to her.

Without her Tyler would beheading for certain death

Jeck's avatar

I'm okay with Candice, fwiw....

RoseMartyn's avatar

How about John Bray’s lab work?

SteelJ's avatar

You know so little about Candace you just spelled her name "Candice". Telling.

Anne McKinney's avatar

That's your conclusion🙃 pfffft ...

Lana's avatar

it is a logical fallacy to reject an argument based on who said it. Also known as Genetic Fallacy. Dispute a claim on its merits not on the source.

Lisa Smith's avatar

Which is why I suggested he find additional sources. But it is not dumb for me to pull my trust and resources that have proved untrustworthy. I don’t care if you call it a logical fallacy or not. It’s common sense.

Jeck's avatar

Rejecting bc Candice said it is not common sense.

Would you care to share what she has said that offends you into this position?

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

No it's a logical fallacy. Logical fallacies are nonsense. Nonsense is never common sense.

Christeena's avatar

Fantastic reply … ppl get so carried away without taking the CONTEXT as it is for context's sake!

William Sherman's avatar

Amen! CandyO is a terrible source for anything, especially anything related to the Kirk murder. You’ll lose me, too.

Jeck's avatar

I'm interested to know what she has said that discredits her so severely. Can you share?

William Sherman's avatar

How about the claim of Egyptian planes stalking Charlie (until that blew up)…or the French Foreign Legion connection…or her claim that the CIA had looked into the future using “Sumerian technology” and seen him as a threat…or her claim that Charlie appeared to her in a dream and told her he was a time traveler…and of course dozens of claims about the culpability of the Mossad, Israel and Jewish donors.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

But her information was accurate, irrespective of, or perhaps because of, it coming from her.

Lisa Smith's avatar

Then find another source that backs that up.

Lana's avatar

Lisa, please learn what a logical fallacy is before repeatedly piping up

CB's avatar

Please let us know too when, if at all, we would have learned about Kirk's texts in the days before his death--the ones stating that donor bullying forced him to leave the pro-Israel cause and that he feared he might be killed as a result. All the usual suspects claimed Owens made those up, until Andrew Kolvet (executive producer of Kirk's podcast) confirmed that the texts were real and that in fact he'd provided them to law enforcement and specifically to Joe Kent.

Christeena's avatar

He was only reporting the FACTs of what the courts had received as evidence. It is just an FYI weird interesting fact introduced to the case & what someone ELSE is stating about it from a converstion inducer? I just find it … well WEIRD??? Not that intellectual I apologise however it truly is .. well WEIRD???

David Rinker's avatar

Owen's pic looks like the man standing in the front row who shot Kirk. Certainly isn't TR.

Peter Athanasius's avatar

They say the walking gait is a good identifier. I guess they didn't release videos.

Dan Star's avatar

Will the public defender bring this up? No! Why is not Tyler doing public funding to get good defense lawyers?

SteelJ's avatar

I think the defense team is highly suspect. That he has public defenders instead of highly respected counsel doesn't make sense. Funds, and pro bono volunteers are bound to be available. Early on I heard of some high-powered attorneys who volunteered to do it pro bono. Not enough attention is paid to this, it's a huge issue.

RoseMartyn's avatar

My guess is that the information that is still forthcoming is going to usher in another political party. I think because there is a lot more info forthcoming that will blow the case out of the water. So stunning it will usher in a viable third party candidate.

Anonymous Media Group's avatar

I just wrote a piece on the different technologies tied to these types of camera systems that allow for a video to be edited and leave no trace of footprints when they leave the system. Here’s the piece if anyone is interested. https://anonymousmediagroup.substack.com/p/what-flock-axon-and-your-medical?r=569lwn&utm_medium=ios

Robert's avatar

Those of you rejecting this because of Candace Owens are missing the point. John reported that the distorted images were introduced by PROSECUTORS and reported by the media. So Candace isn't the source of the DATA. She commented on it and John is correct to cite her (rather than use her ideas without credit).

Frances Lynch's avatar

This trial could be confused with a Monty Python sketch if it weren't so serious a charge.

Is the judge going to allow this garbage to be entered as evidence??? If so, does that constitute a mistrial????

Jean's avatar

Everyone with a brain cell that has looked at all the evidence knows that was NOT Robinson (like they don't have a clear pic of this man in the pics) and the murder was a psyop. No Blood on the ground or anyone that pretended to help Charlie, they refused the help of the paramedics and threw him in the truck like a sack of potatoes. They dug up the ground at the crime scene and concreted over it the NEXT Day! The Vice President came and took away Charlie's body? Are you kidding me? They think we are very stupid,