He is wrong. Jews are the indigenous. Arabs live in Israel with full rights of citizenship. As long as some ignore the words of those who seek to destroy all Jews, peace will prevail only when those who speak those words cease to exist.
Indigenous? Like when you arrived there after being in Egypt and destroyed the cities that were there? Killed the people who were living there? Ethnic cleansed the area?
Indigenous? LMAO. You are no more indigenous than the Palestinians then.
According to the story you may or may not agree with, YHWH told Moses to free the Israelites from 400 years of slavery in Egypt. The Israelites were told to enter the Promised Land and kill or drive out the peoples who were living there.
The land had been promised to Abraham and his specific Israelite descendants: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel.
If YHWH created this universe, then it is his. He can give it to those people who obey him and kick out anyone who doesn't.
If you don't like it, take it up with the Most High Big Guy.
like when the bigoted apartheid "chosen" don't allow you to travel on certain roads, block the ambulance that comes for your sick child so you get to watch while he dies, when soldiers play target practice on childrens' body parts, when an "authority" counts your calories and allows in barely enough to keep you alive so they can torture you more.
He makes a very strong moral case but he says nothing of what can or should be done to resolve the situation. What do you do when your neighbor has sworn to wipe you off the face of the map?
That was not said. The accurate phrase was "The regime that occupies Jerusalem must be erased from the pages of history". Regime change, not genocide. Quit repeating that lie or you make yourself obviously ignorant of the facts.
The Ayatollah Khomeini met with Iran's Rabbis and literally said "I have nothing against the descendants of Moses. It's those Zionist bloodsuckers I can't stand". There are still 10,000 to 12,000 Jews living in Iran. You just bombed their synagogue.
Where do you think the Jews went when the European countries kicked them out? A lot went to the Islamic empire. Moslems and Jews lived together in Moslem controlled countries for 1500 years.
You don’t know me. I am very well read. I am a Christian, I have been to Israel. I am not ignorant of the situation as you suggest. It is a travesty all around. What one leader or another said in what language I always take with a bit of skepticism. My point was and is, what is the solution to the situation in Gaza at this juncture? The holocaust survivor in the video did not offer one other than to stand up and object to what is going on.
That's a lie and you know it. Islam doesn't care who is in charge in Israel...it is Israel that they will crush either via immigration or the sword - and they don't much care which. Did 1948 teach you nothing?
I've turned a bit hard nosed after the events of 7 October.
for those who classify Israel's actions of self defense in the face of a truly exestential threat that is much worse for being up close and personal compared to those promoted by Stalin and the Third Reich, I would ask them to show proof answering these questions, in particular, instances where the IDF or even certain Israeli settler groups have:
- routinely sent assorted suicide bombers into crowded market places and buses
- emplaced rocket and mortar firing positions in close proximity to Protected Structures, including schools, medical facilities or places of worship
- hidden munition caches, some of them fairly large near or even under such protected places, as documented by secondary explosions
- randomly fired towards or into known population concentrations, either in Gaza or the West Bank - note: retaliatory fire, aimed at said firing points does NOT count!
- directly attacked civilians who have gathered for festivals
= murdered the males at said festivals and taken the females and children hostage, often to points near said munitions caches
= murdered the hostage infants and children, either directly or thru neglect
= systematically raped, tortured and murdered the hostage females
= systematically refused to cooperate with International Humanitarian Authorities to identify, much less confirm the condition, of said hostages
= systematically refused to allow those same authorities access to evaluate the conditions of which those hostages have been held.
- finally, and most damning, diverted food stuffs, sanitation and hygiene supplies and construction supplies designated to help succor suffering civilian populations inside the affected area
Your list is an accurate description of Hamas terrorist activities. Asking people propagandized into "Israel bad" to read this will only result in their inability to see the letters on the page, or if so, they will not read them as coherent sentences.
There are also two points that cover the purported blame on Israel for the failure of multiple attempts at providing for a peaceful coexistence in a two state system -
the first deals with the claims of apartheid: How can true apartheid exist when Arabs who accept Israeli citizenship and abjure the efforts to drive the Jews into the Sea, can and do serve in all capacities in the Israeli government up to and including holding seats in the Knesset and high military command?
The second deals with reality on the ground: How can the World expect Israel to peacefully coexist with assorted groups who are unwilling or unable to love their own children more than the hate the Jews?
Like Irgun, Stern gang and the other Zionists did? You know, Begin and his ilk? Killing civilians, murdering whole villages. But it's okay when you do it because you're always the good guys.
LMAO. You can rationalize and justify Gaza you are the problem.
For a group that has pretensions of being "The Master Race" you turned out to be pathetically average humans. 90% of Israeli adults took the first 2 shots, 80% the third and 50% the fourth. Just another bunch of delusional humans pathetically going along with their own deaths.
There are countries that are worse like Ireland and Portugal but there's also countries that did better like USA, Switzerland & Austria. Nothing special about you. Just another pathetically average bunch of humans.
Irgun was not a government-sponsored group; it was a Jewish underground paramilitary organization that operated independently during the British Mandate. It was formed by members who split from the Haganah in protest against its policies.
Avraham Stern split from Irgun for not being militant enough.
These are not evidence of government wrong doing, or the general thrust of Zionism, which is what all people would want--a safe harbor in which to live and thrive. Israel was granted that in 1948, and were immediately and repeatedly attacked by the Arabs.
The Jewish refugees who were dispossessed of their business, homes possessions and often their lives, who lived in the surrounding Arab countries, were taken in by the nascent State of Israel. Meanwhile, the Arabs who fled Israel AT THE BEHEST of the Arab League, were refused entry into Arab nations. Those who entered Jordan cause so much trouble about 10,000 of them were killed. Hamas is a result of Arab nations refusing to shelter their own people, and the sour philosophy of Islamic terrorism.
If Arabs didn't attack Israel, there would be no Middle East conflict.
let's also look at the actions of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during that period - Mohammed Amin al-Husseini was in cahoots with Hitler, so again, which group was being provocative and which retaliatory?
Oh, and I've been familiar with all three of those psychological experiments for a long time, along with the ones claiming that overpopulation in murine colonies can explain some of the problems in human society. My College Psych Prof dissected both Stanford and Milford with a flaying knife.
Rationalize and justify the evil your side does because others do it? LMAO. You are the same as them then. Enjoy cesspool you have created.
2 out of 3 were not supposed to be repeated but were. Similar results. The species is tribal bunch of herd animals. You are not superior to any others.
Great response. Your comparisons and logic fail. You support the lowest form of humanity on the planet--Islamic fascists--and complain and hurl insults when people don't agree with you.
How about we get the hell out of Israeli politics, stop sending them money, stop sending money to Arab countries, and have a truly noninterventionist foreign policy? I hope for peace in every country, but this isn't our fight. We shouldn't have been involved with the formation of Israel, but the fact that we were does not justify our staying in this endless, no-win, highly destructive and pricey (in $ and lives) conflict.
1937 and 1947: Jewish leadership accepted British and UN partition plans to divide the land, while Arab leaders rejected them.
1967: Israel offered to return territories captured in the Six-Day War in exchange for peace agreements, which were rejected at the Khartoum Summit.
2000: Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered nearly all of the West Bank, all of Gaza, and parts of East Jerusalem during the Camp David Summit.
2008: Prime Minister Ehud Olmert proposed a plan including a land swap and international control over Jerusalem, which was rejected by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
We shouldn't have been involved in the formation of Israel? What did we owe these people after what happened during WWII? Say nothing and walk away? Side with neither when Israel is fighting for existence against sworn enemies of the U.S.?
BTW: This is YHWH's land. He says he will place his throne in Jerusalem, and those he wants will live there with him.
last time I checked, a Biblical verse is not the same as a deed to a property. you murder the people living in a house and that's murder. you steal someone's land and that's stealing. you forget to mention that God kicked them out and sent them wandering because they had misbehaved. I think that canceled the real estate deal.
That's what Israel increasingly wants. They are tired of being 'instructed' by the Big Satan. Israel is supporting us in our fight against Iran...not vice-versa. Let's get out of their business and let them get on with what they need to do.
When someone wants to bash Israel they trot out a Jewish person who doesn't agree with Israel's policy, and then usually incorporate Hamas propaganda to make the case.
This actually speaks well for Israel in general. Israelis, or Jews at large can have their own opinions and state them, because Israel is a free society. "Security forces" won't pay them a midnight visit. They won't issue a fatwa to encourage the murder of the dissenter if he lives in a foreign country. The dissenter won't be murdered in the street by a mob of his fellow citizens. Israel differs immensely from its neighbors in that respect.
Any misfortune that has fallen on the Arabs of Gaza, very few of which don't sign on to the "River to the Sea" motto, can be blamed squarely on their governing body, Hamas.
What I would like to know is whether he (and you and Dr. McCullough) expressed the same horror at the inhumane, barbaric, even demonic actions taken by Hamas against innocent Israeli young people at a festival, families in their homes, babies and the elderly on October 7th? The rapes, mutilations and murders that were recorded by Hamas and celebrated in Gaza were beyond atrocities. Three hundred hostages taken and many starved and tortured and killed. Where were the compassionate Palestinians then? I’ve been an avid supporter of Dr. McCullough on all things Covid since he first spoke out, but the disproportionate criticism of Israel and the “genocide” is troublesome to me. Yes, “the government” lied about Covid and the vax. But that doesn’t mean the government lies about everything. And when the Palestinians start to condemn their leaders’ actions instead of cheering for their barbarity, I’ll be more sympathetic.
Right or wrong, Israel is under existential threat and are fighting a righteous, defensive war against Hamas and their sponsor, Iran. I hope they get to finish the fight successfully.
So many leaders of the global campaign against Israel's (and, let's be real, the USA's) stepped-up ethnic cleansing of Palestinian and Lebanese lands are Jewish. It's especially poignant when European Holocaust survivors are forced to state that it's happening again, in the mid-Levant.
Yes, of course it is a holocaust!!! Any group, or individual, that discriminately kills people is committing holocaust!!! It doesn't matter who started the "argument". Everyone knows there has been war in the middle east for decades, centuries. Do we really know exactly who did, said, started what? I suspose a historian does. But, does it matter who started the war? Isn't WAR a holocaust? It is past time to STOP the nonsense of killing each other, whether it is called war or holocaust or killing!!!! Why are we allowing or endorsing fake "leaders" to take us down a road of destruction? Do we not understand that sending our young adults to war means that thousands, perhaps millions, of people will die, including our own young sons and daughters? Isn't that a holocaust? Why do we continue to partiscipate in holocaust situations????
Your ignorance is showing. Discriminate killing is what happens in war. There is no deliberate, discriminatory killing of civilians. War is evil. War is hell. Civilians die in war. Unfortunately we experience war from time to time and we have to be ready to aggressively fight defensive wars to their conclusion. This is an existential war for Israel and I hope they're 'permitted' to finish the job successfully.
If you remember, the Jewish ghettos in Germany were systematically isolated with out ability to come and go and food and water became scare to starve the population and force them to be escorted to the gas chambers. I saw the well planned process of exterminating humans when I visited Dachau. The similarities of what is happening in Gaza is a similar scenario. Only the ethnic group has changed. President Trump is pushing a peace plan and it is being rejected. The cleansing has not been complete. They are resolving the two state republic by liquidating Gaza.
No formal gas chambers. Just continued indiscriminate killing. No differentiation between the innocent and the fighters. The continued regional waring just displaces more and more people that then migrate and become a burden in another location and disrupt the economies of the country that accepts them. Same will happen with Gaza, Those that survive the continued shelling will leave if they find the support they need to leave. Eugenics has to be at the root cause of why this continues to happen. The elite envision a smaller human world. In the last century we have eliminated 100 million globally. Not enough. The fact that your ability to look at all sides of the issue is being controlled speaks volumes that they do not want the truth to be known. Slows the eugenics process. My analysis.
No, it is not a "similar scenario". It is totally different. The killing is not iniscriminate. Israel should get a Nobel prize for bending over backwards to preserve civilian Gazan lives during this conflict. I question that RPh behind your name whatever that means.
How many have they killed? Only terrorists? Only Hamas fighters? Why is it still happening? International court of law has condemned what is happening. Correct?
They will not let reporters in to report what is truly transpiring so how do you know what is reality? Based on what appears to be true, it surer seems it is a similar situation.
The rubble of destroyed concrete structures goes on for miles. They won't let humanitarian help in and they won't let the homeless leave. What else can you conclude?
This is so absurd. If the Israelis were engaged in genocide in Gaza there would be nobody left alive by now. Instead they drop pamphlets of warning and take every conceivable opportunity to minimize civilian deaths. In what universe is that called genocide? I can answer that question: only in the universe of irrational Jew hatred. I have no idea why this Holocaust survivor is saying such absurd things. Maybe he is senile, maybe he is under pressure of some sort, maybe something else. It doesn't matter. We can clearly see with our own eyes that this is not genocide. Why do you post this nonsense Mr. Leake? What is your real agenda? Do you really think Israel is supposed to sit still for constant missiles aimed at civilian targets and do nothing about atrocities committed by hate-filled attackers?
I am not impressed. First, he conflates holocaust and genocide which are NOT the same thing. There is no genocide in Gaza. Second, Israel is prosecuting a defensive war against an aggressor country...100% legal. Third, Israel is doing everything in its power to keep Gazan civilians safe which, of course, gives Hamas terrorists free safe haven. Fourth, failing to defeat Hamas leaves an existential threat to Israel's existence on their southwestern border. Fifth, THERE IS NO PALESTINE AND THERE IS NO TWO-STATE SOLUTION. Get used to that.
Despite his survival of the Hungarian Holocaust, the man is obviously a Leftist. Jews are the indigenous...always have been. Yes, what about Oct. 7th? What was that?
The continuous hatred of G-d's own people comes from the pit and always has. It is sad that His own people don't see the truth. Yes, the Almighty calls Israel and the Jewish people, "HIS PEOPLE."
Hamas should have to change their name to DUMBASS because they fell for the biggest "Let It Happen On Purpose" scam and actually thought they had pulled off a great victory. Egypt gave 2 warnings (10 days and 3 days before) right to the prime minister's office. Lots of other warnings but hey now you can justify a genocide and claim a half trillion is gas riches off the coast.
"he Almighty calls Israel and the Jewish people, "HIS PEOPLE."" - So please do get your god to actually show up. Where is it? Your imaginary friend is no more real than anyone else's. You use that as justification for genocide? How NAZI of you. Seig Heil Israel.
You need to do more homework TRM. Caroline Glick wrote all aboutthis and what happened shortly after Oct. 7th. You must have missed it. Quite obviously you think more of Hamas and their actions than you do of the people G-d calls His own. Even the New Testament says the same thing, but then I guess you may have missed that as well.
G-d keeps His promises. Gen. 12:1-3. Choose blessing or curse.
"Quite obviously you think more of Hamas and their actions than you do of the people G-d calls His own" - Can you even READ? WTF? I call Hamas "Dumbass" and you think I support them?
I'll keep it simple for you. Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime. Both sides have done that repeatedly and now you're going for the liquidation phase of your "Warsaw ghetto on steroids" called Gaza. Sieg Heil Israel.
Where is your God then? Prove your god exists or don't bring it into the conversation. Your imaginary friend is no more real than anyone else's.
Israel is not targeting civilians. Israel is doing everything it can to protect Gazan civilians as it attempts to root Hamas terrorists from their midst. I don't envy them that task.
Read your Bible, if you have one...and read historical findings since the days of Noah. You don't even believe in your Maker, so there's no reason to continue this conversation. Proof is everywhere. You're pitiful.
I agree with him 100%, thank you for posting the video which I hope your readers will watch in its entirety. If we can't all agree that killing women and children is abhorrent, then what can we agree on? As I wrote the other day I wouldn't say it's "immoral," because I think that's a superstitious and counterproductive characterization, but I think it is in our biology that we naturally sympathize with others, except when our tendency to do so has been perverted by propaganda.
I spend very little time reading comments to any podcaster or writer. I spend even less time replying myself. However, since you started writing about Iran and Israel I have become very concerned and have replied more to your posts, John, than to anyone else's on the planet. Your recent writing on your perception of the "psychology" behind various view points increases my concern. I think there is someone much more qualified to answer the questions you are asking of your readers. That person is Dr. Robert Malone. I see him as your colleague in misfortune during Covid. He suffered much as did you and Dr. McCullough. Dr. Malone has recently been posting on the situation in Israel. It started as a 3 post series but he has recently posted his 5th essay on the topic. He promises that the 6th post will be the last. He started the journey believing that he would get the documentation to support his current belief. In his words Israel has kept "handing him a mirror". This link will hopefully take you to part one https://www.malone.news/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b5ddff1-7a46-4979-af50-8714e41df015_1456x1048.jpeg&open=false . I have been impressed with his diligence, scholarship, and honesty about a very complicated situation.
Israel has as much right to exist as does the USofA or any other country...and they have every right to defend themselves against existential threats like Hamas/Gaza.
He is wrong. Jews are the indigenous. Arabs live in Israel with full rights of citizenship. As long as some ignore the words of those who seek to destroy all Jews, peace will prevail only when those who speak those words cease to exist.
Indigenous? Like when you arrived there after being in Egypt and destroyed the cities that were there? Killed the people who were living there? Ethnic cleansed the area?
Indigenous? LMAO. You are no more indigenous than the Palestinians then.
According to the story you may or may not agree with, YHWH told Moses to free the Israelites from 400 years of slavery in Egypt. The Israelites were told to enter the Promised Land and kill or drive out the peoples who were living there.
The land had been promised to Abraham and his specific Israelite descendants: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel.
If YHWH created this universe, then it is his. He can give it to those people who obey him and kick out anyone who doesn't.
If you don't like it, take it up with the Most High Big Guy.
If you can't prove your god exists (and NOBODY can) then quit using it as justification for your actions.
So please prove your god exists. I await your proof.
Well, at least you know part of your Bible.
full rights = no rights.
like when the bigoted apartheid "chosen" don't allow you to travel on certain roads, block the ambulance that comes for your sick child so you get to watch while he dies, when soldiers play target practice on childrens' body parts, when an "authority" counts your calories and allows in barely enough to keep you alive so they can torture you more.
yeah, gotta love those "full rights!"
Nope.
Good for you to call him out. There's still an unspoken rule - no difference of opinion with "holocaust survivors"
He makes a very strong moral case but he says nothing of what can or should be done to resolve the situation. What do you do when your neighbor has sworn to wipe you off the face of the map?
That was not said. The accurate phrase was "The regime that occupies Jerusalem must be erased from the pages of history". Regime change, not genocide. Quit repeating that lie or you make yourself obviously ignorant of the facts.
The Ayatollah Khomeini met with Iran's Rabbis and literally said "I have nothing against the descendants of Moses. It's those Zionist bloodsuckers I can't stand". There are still 10,000 to 12,000 Jews living in Iran. You just bombed their synagogue.
Where do you think the Jews went when the European countries kicked them out? A lot went to the Islamic empire. Moslems and Jews lived together in Moslem controlled countries for 1500 years.
You don’t know me. I am very well read. I am a Christian, I have been to Israel. I am not ignorant of the situation as you suggest. It is a travesty all around. What one leader or another said in what language I always take with a bit of skepticism. My point was and is, what is the solution to the situation in Gaza at this juncture? The holocaust survivor in the video did not offer one other than to stand up and object to what is going on.
That's a lie and you know it. Islam doesn't care who is in charge in Israel...it is Israel that they will crush either via immigration or the sword - and they don't much care which. Did 1948 teach you nothing?
I've turned a bit hard nosed after the events of 7 October.
for those who classify Israel's actions of self defense in the face of a truly exestential threat that is much worse for being up close and personal compared to those promoted by Stalin and the Third Reich, I would ask them to show proof answering these questions, in particular, instances where the IDF or even certain Israeli settler groups have:
- routinely sent assorted suicide bombers into crowded market places and buses
- emplaced rocket and mortar firing positions in close proximity to Protected Structures, including schools, medical facilities or places of worship
- hidden munition caches, some of them fairly large near or even under such protected places, as documented by secondary explosions
- randomly fired towards or into known population concentrations, either in Gaza or the West Bank - note: retaliatory fire, aimed at said firing points does NOT count!
- directly attacked civilians who have gathered for festivals
= murdered the males at said festivals and taken the females and children hostage, often to points near said munitions caches
= murdered the hostage infants and children, either directly or thru neglect
= systematically raped, tortured and murdered the hostage females
= systematically refused to cooperate with International Humanitarian Authorities to identify, much less confirm the condition, of said hostages
= systematically refused to allow those same authorities access to evaluate the conditions of which those hostages have been held.
- finally, and most damning, diverted food stuffs, sanitation and hygiene supplies and construction supplies designated to help succor suffering civilian populations inside the affected area
Your list is an accurate description of Hamas terrorist activities. Asking people propagandized into "Israel bad" to read this will only result in their inability to see the letters on the page, or if so, they will not read them as coherent sentences.
yep.
There are also two points that cover the purported blame on Israel for the failure of multiple attempts at providing for a peaceful coexistence in a two state system -
the first deals with the claims of apartheid: How can true apartheid exist when Arabs who accept Israeli citizenship and abjure the efforts to drive the Jews into the Sea, can and do serve in all capacities in the Israeli government up to and including holding seats in the Knesset and high military command?
The second deals with reality on the ground: How can the World expect Israel to peacefully coexist with assorted groups who are unwilling or unable to love their own children more than the hate the Jews?
Like Irgun, Stern gang and the other Zionists did? You know, Begin and his ilk? Killing civilians, murdering whole villages. But it's okay when you do it because you're always the good guys.
LMAO. You can rationalize and justify Gaza you are the problem.
For a group that has pretensions of being "The Master Race" you turned out to be pathetically average humans. 90% of Israeli adults took the first 2 shots, 80% the third and 50% the fourth. Just another bunch of delusional humans pathetically going along with their own deaths.
There are countries that are worse like Ireland and Portugal but there's also countries that did better like USA, Switzerland & Austria. Nothing special about you. Just another pathetically average bunch of humans.
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Irgun was not a government-sponsored group; it was a Jewish underground paramilitary organization that operated independently during the British Mandate. It was formed by members who split from the Haganah in protest against its policies.
Avraham Stern split from Irgun for not being militant enough.
These are not evidence of government wrong doing, or the general thrust of Zionism, which is what all people would want--a safe harbor in which to live and thrive. Israel was granted that in 1948, and were immediately and repeatedly attacked by the Arabs.
The Jewish refugees who were dispossessed of their business, homes possessions and often their lives, who lived in the surrounding Arab countries, were taken in by the nascent State of Israel. Meanwhile, the Arabs who fled Israel AT THE BEHEST of the Arab League, were refused entry into Arab nations. Those who entered Jordan cause so much trouble about 10,000 of them were killed. Hamas is a result of Arab nations refusing to shelter their own people, and the sour philosophy of Islamic terrorism.
If Arabs didn't attack Israel, there would be no Middle East conflict.
Go get your booster.
Why so I can enter your level of Hell? Get an education.
let's also look at the actions of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during that period - Mohammed Amin al-Husseini was in cahoots with Hitler, so again, which group was being provocative and which retaliatory?
Oh, and I've been familiar with all three of those psychological experiments for a long time, along with the ones claiming that overpopulation in murine colonies can explain some of the problems in human society. My College Psych Prof dissected both Stanford and Milford with a flaying knife.
Rationalize and justify the evil your side does because others do it? LMAO. You are the same as them then. Enjoy cesspool you have created.
2 out of 3 were not supposed to be repeated but were. Similar results. The species is tribal bunch of herd animals. You are not superior to any others.
Great response. Your comparisons and logic fail. You support the lowest form of humanity on the planet--Islamic fascists--and complain and hurl insults when people don't agree with you.
Well said.
They sure have. You have not done your research.
How about we get the hell out of Israeli politics, stop sending them money, stop sending money to Arab countries, and have a truly noninterventionist foreign policy? I hope for peace in every country, but this isn't our fight. We shouldn't have been involved with the formation of Israel, but the fact that we were does not justify our staying in this endless, no-win, highly destructive and pricey (in $ and lives) conflict.
1937 and 1947: Jewish leadership accepted British and UN partition plans to divide the land, while Arab leaders rejected them.
1967: Israel offered to return territories captured in the Six-Day War in exchange for peace agreements, which were rejected at the Khartoum Summit.
2000: Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered nearly all of the West Bank, all of Gaza, and parts of East Jerusalem during the Camp David Summit.
2008: Prime Minister Ehud Olmert proposed a plan including a land swap and international control over Jerusalem, which was rejected by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
We shouldn't have been involved in the formation of Israel? What did we owe these people after what happened during WWII? Say nothing and walk away? Side with neither when Israel is fighting for existence against sworn enemies of the U.S.?
BTW: This is YHWH's land. He says he will place his throne in Jerusalem, and those he wants will live there with him.
lori2022: You make comments and then run away?
last time I checked, a Biblical verse is not the same as a deed to a property. you murder the people living in a house and that's murder. you steal someone's land and that's stealing. you forget to mention that God kicked them out and sent them wandering because they had misbehaved. I think that canceled the real estate deal.
Who owns the land? YHWH does. Yes, he did divorce Israel and kick out Judah. He will bring them back.
Those who help Israel will be helped, and those who oppose YHWH's plans will be destroyed.
And we stay out and let God handle it. Gaza is also fighting for existence.
That's what Israel increasingly wants. They are tired of being 'instructed' by the Big Satan. Israel is supporting us in our fight against Iran...not vice-versa. Let's get out of their business and let them get on with what they need to do.
LOL.
BOOM!
When someone wants to bash Israel they trot out a Jewish person who doesn't agree with Israel's policy, and then usually incorporate Hamas propaganda to make the case.
This actually speaks well for Israel in general. Israelis, or Jews at large can have their own opinions and state them, because Israel is a free society. "Security forces" won't pay them a midnight visit. They won't issue a fatwa to encourage the murder of the dissenter if he lives in a foreign country. The dissenter won't be murdered in the street by a mob of his fellow citizens. Israel differs immensely from its neighbors in that respect.
Any misfortune that has fallen on the Arabs of Gaza, very few of which don't sign on to the "River to the Sea" motto, can be blamed squarely on their governing body, Hamas.
What I would like to know is whether he (and you and Dr. McCullough) expressed the same horror at the inhumane, barbaric, even demonic actions taken by Hamas against innocent Israeli young people at a festival, families in their homes, babies and the elderly on October 7th? The rapes, mutilations and murders that were recorded by Hamas and celebrated in Gaza were beyond atrocities. Three hundred hostages taken and many starved and tortured and killed. Where were the compassionate Palestinians then? I’ve been an avid supporter of Dr. McCullough on all things Covid since he first spoke out, but the disproportionate criticism of Israel and the “genocide” is troublesome to me. Yes, “the government” lied about Covid and the vax. But that doesn’t mean the government lies about everything. And when the Palestinians start to condemn their leaders’ actions instead of cheering for their barbarity, I’ll be more sympathetic.
2 wrongs don't make a right.
Right or wrong, Israel is under existential threat and are fighting a righteous, defensive war against Hamas and their sponsor, Iran. I hope they get to finish the fight successfully.
So many leaders of the global campaign against Israel's (and, let's be real, the USA's) stepped-up ethnic cleansing of Palestinian and Lebanese lands are Jewish. It's especially poignant when European Holocaust survivors are forced to state that it's happening again, in the mid-Levant.
Yes, of course it is a holocaust!!! Any group, or individual, that discriminately kills people is committing holocaust!!! It doesn't matter who started the "argument". Everyone knows there has been war in the middle east for decades, centuries. Do we really know exactly who did, said, started what? I suspose a historian does. But, does it matter who started the war? Isn't WAR a holocaust? It is past time to STOP the nonsense of killing each other, whether it is called war or holocaust or killing!!!! Why are we allowing or endorsing fake "leaders" to take us down a road of destruction? Do we not understand that sending our young adults to war means that thousands, perhaps millions, of people will die, including our own young sons and daughters? Isn't that a holocaust? Why do we continue to partiscipate in holocaust situations????
Your ignorance is showing. Discriminate killing is what happens in war. There is no deliberate, discriminatory killing of civilians. War is evil. War is hell. Civilians die in war. Unfortunately we experience war from time to time and we have to be ready to aggressively fight defensive wars to their conclusion. This is an existential war for Israel and I hope they're 'permitted' to finish the job successfully.
If you remember, the Jewish ghettos in Germany were systematically isolated with out ability to come and go and food and water became scare to starve the population and force them to be escorted to the gas chambers. I saw the well planned process of exterminating humans when I visited Dachau. The similarities of what is happening in Gaza is a similar scenario. Only the ethnic group has changed. President Trump is pushing a peace plan and it is being rejected. The cleansing has not been complete. They are resolving the two state republic by liquidating Gaza.
No formal gas chambers. Just continued indiscriminate killing. No differentiation between the innocent and the fighters. The continued regional waring just displaces more and more people that then migrate and become a burden in another location and disrupt the economies of the country that accepts them. Same will happen with Gaza, Those that survive the continued shelling will leave if they find the support they need to leave. Eugenics has to be at the root cause of why this continues to happen. The elite envision a smaller human world. In the last century we have eliminated 100 million globally. Not enough. The fact that your ability to look at all sides of the issue is being controlled speaks volumes that they do not want the truth to be known. Slows the eugenics process. My analysis.
No, it is not a "similar scenario". It is totally different. The killing is not iniscriminate. Israel should get a Nobel prize for bending over backwards to preserve civilian Gazan lives during this conflict. I question that RPh behind your name whatever that means.
One big difference was that Israel brought truckloads of food daily into Gaza, and msy still be happening. That never happened in Germany...
How many have they killed? Only terrorists? Only Hamas fighters? Why is it still happening? International court of law has condemned what is happening. Correct?
They will not let reporters in to report what is truly transpiring so how do you know what is reality? Based on what appears to be true, it surer seems it is a similar situation.
The rubble of destroyed concrete structures goes on for miles. They won't let humanitarian help in and they won't let the homeless leave. What else can you conclude?
This is so absurd. If the Israelis were engaged in genocide in Gaza there would be nobody left alive by now. Instead they drop pamphlets of warning and take every conceivable opportunity to minimize civilian deaths. In what universe is that called genocide? I can answer that question: only in the universe of irrational Jew hatred. I have no idea why this Holocaust survivor is saying such absurd things. Maybe he is senile, maybe he is under pressure of some sort, maybe something else. It doesn't matter. We can clearly see with our own eyes that this is not genocide. Why do you post this nonsense Mr. Leake? What is your real agenda? Do you really think Israel is supposed to sit still for constant missiles aimed at civilian targets and do nothing about atrocities committed by hate-filled attackers?
I am not impressed. First, he conflates holocaust and genocide which are NOT the same thing. There is no genocide in Gaza. Second, Israel is prosecuting a defensive war against an aggressor country...100% legal. Third, Israel is doing everything in its power to keep Gazan civilians safe which, of course, gives Hamas terrorists free safe haven. Fourth, failing to defeat Hamas leaves an existential threat to Israel's existence on their southwestern border. Fifth, THERE IS NO PALESTINE AND THERE IS NO TWO-STATE SOLUTION. Get used to that.
Despite his survival of the Hungarian Holocaust, the man is obviously a Leftist. Jews are the indigenous...always have been. Yes, what about Oct. 7th? What was that?
The continuous hatred of G-d's own people comes from the pit and always has. It is sad that His own people don't see the truth. Yes, the Almighty calls Israel and the Jewish people, "HIS PEOPLE."
Oi Vey, next.
"what about Oct. 7th? What was that?" - LIHOP
Hamas should have to change their name to DUMBASS because they fell for the biggest "Let It Happen On Purpose" scam and actually thought they had pulled off a great victory. Egypt gave 2 warnings (10 days and 3 days before) right to the prime minister's office. Lots of other warnings but hey now you can justify a genocide and claim a half trillion is gas riches off the coast.
"he Almighty calls Israel and the Jewish people, "HIS PEOPLE."" - So please do get your god to actually show up. Where is it? Your imaginary friend is no more real than anyone else's. You use that as justification for genocide? How NAZI of you. Seig Heil Israel.
You need to do more homework TRM. Caroline Glick wrote all aboutthis and what happened shortly after Oct. 7th. You must have missed it. Quite obviously you think more of Hamas and their actions than you do of the people G-d calls His own. Even the New Testament says the same thing, but then I guess you may have missed that as well.
G-d keeps His promises. Gen. 12:1-3. Choose blessing or curse.
"Quite obviously you think more of Hamas and their actions than you do of the people G-d calls His own" - Can you even READ? WTF? I call Hamas "Dumbass" and you think I support them?
I'll keep it simple for you. Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime. Both sides have done that repeatedly and now you're going for the liquidation phase of your "Warsaw ghetto on steroids" called Gaza. Sieg Heil Israel.
Where is your God then? Prove your god exists or don't bring it into the conversation. Your imaginary friend is no more real than anyone else's.
Israel is not targeting civilians. Israel is doing everything it can to protect Gazan civilians as it attempts to root Hamas terrorists from their midst. I don't envy them that task.
Read your Bible, if you have one...and read historical findings since the days of Noah. You don't even believe in your Maker, so there's no reason to continue this conversation. Proof is everywhere. You're pitiful.
I agree with him 100%, thank you for posting the video which I hope your readers will watch in its entirety. If we can't all agree that killing women and children is abhorrent, then what can we agree on? As I wrote the other day I wouldn't say it's "immoral," because I think that's a superstitious and counterproductive characterization, but I think it is in our biology that we naturally sympathize with others, except when our tendency to do so has been perverted by propaganda.
I spend very little time reading comments to any podcaster or writer. I spend even less time replying myself. However, since you started writing about Iran and Israel I have become very concerned and have replied more to your posts, John, than to anyone else's on the planet. Your recent writing on your perception of the "psychology" behind various view points increases my concern. I think there is someone much more qualified to answer the questions you are asking of your readers. That person is Dr. Robert Malone. I see him as your colleague in misfortune during Covid. He suffered much as did you and Dr. McCullough. Dr. Malone has recently been posting on the situation in Israel. It started as a 3 post series but he has recently posted his 5th essay on the topic. He promises that the 6th post will be the last. He started the journey believing that he would get the documentation to support his current belief. In his words Israel has kept "handing him a mirror". This link will hopefully take you to part one https://www.malone.news/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b5ddff1-7a46-4979-af50-8714e41df015_1456x1048.jpeg&open=false . I have been impressed with his diligence, scholarship, and honesty about a very complicated situation.
Malone is very one-sided. Next.
The "damage" is irreparable, Israhell has no reason to exist anymore !!!!!
Israel has as much right to exist as does the USofA or any other country...and they have every right to defend themselves against existential threats like Hamas/Gaza.
Both sides have the right to exist. The only one who gets to say no to either side is God, not man.
They aren't all satanyahu.
Bibi is wicked.