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Barbara Charis's avatar

I have a hot mug of Cacao Bliss, coconut milk and stevia. Cacao Bliss contains turmeric and i also use a couple capsules of turmeric daily.. Every morning I am out doing a non-stop walk of 10,000 steps - 5. miles without a problem...no stiffness or soreness! It takes me 100 minutes. I feel better today at 92 than I felt at 30.

Joey's avatar

I saw that Cacao Bliss advertised and wondered if it wasn’t just another trendy product to waste money on. It’s astonishing the amount of swindlers out there peddling expensive garbage and taking advantage of desperate people! You cannot generally trust the online testimonials, so it’s good to see someone here that’s had good results with it. You rock at 92?! Amazing! At 58 my lengthy list of physical ailments is too long. I’d love to be you when I grow up, but quite honestly it’s not reality that this body will survive to that age. I’m disintegrating. Which is fine! I’ll have a new body with the Lord when I leave this one! Bless you and walk into your 100’s with just as healthy of a body as now! 🙏🏻

Barbara Charis's avatar

It isn't the just the Cacao Bliss...I ask a blessing by holding my hands over everything I eat and by asking the Creator to 'energize' the food. In 1980, I met a 50. year old man who looked no older than 30. He was one of the healthiest men I had ever seen. He had been a raw food vegetarian, since he was 16,. I wanted to know what he did. He showed me how he held his hands over his food and asked the Creator to bless it. He helped in changing my life. .I was fat and lethargic at 30, but by changing my diet and avoiding all toxic stresses...I feel better at 92 than I ever felt, when i was over 60 years younger. December 1983. I heard the words as clear as a bell: "Stop eating!" I felt it was the Creator and i listened. I stopped eating and had no idea for how long. It turned out to be 40 days. I was only guided to drink three glasses of distilled water daily and i held my hands over the water for the Creator to bless and 'energize.' I went about my daily work the whole time and I had total energy. I learned that the words in the Bible were very true..."Man does not live by food alone." Miracles do exist!

Joey's avatar

Wow! Thank you for sharing that amazing testimony! Oh our Lord is so merciful!

My health has never been the greatest and now I can attribute it to childhood vax. My mother was sure to have me lined up for any and all. Unfortunately, that mindset persisted in me until about 12 years ago. As said, a list too long of ailments, but I started really reading and researching. Thankfully I dint allow my pride to overshadow how wrong I had been. I only wish my 85 years ago old mother would do the same. She not only took the initial jab but has had all boosters and we are unable to discuss anything regarding health or politics. She gets near belligerent, and that’s come with the changes in the brain those evil things make. Almost lost her last year to the clots they cause. Medication has helped some dissipate which surprised me. I’m certain prayers had most to do with it. She still has some in one leg. Our family prays at dinner, but I so often do not when I’m eating alone and I can admit to not eating the best. I do try to eat organically and I’m taking great supplements. I know eating whole food is crucial for what the body truly needs, but with the addition of prayer over it as you have given example is something I need to add!! I will do so!!

Many blessings and looking forward to meeting you in Glory one day soon! 🙌

Barbara Charis's avatar

It is important to do as Hippocrates, the Father of Medicine, .recommended.. He said that exercise was equally as important as natural food. Walking daily is important. Start with a short distance and build up. When i first started walking, after laying off exercise for a couple years, I was really huffing and had to sit down halfway up a nearby street with a hill. Now i can go up that long hilly street many times without stopping and I can do 5 miles in 100 minutes of non-stop without even feeling it at 92. Movement is life!

Sue's avatar

Hi Nicolas, do you think this would work for arthritis? I've just been told that my knee pain is due to arthritis and a torn meniscus. I've been advised to take paracetamol for pain relief but I'd rather not. Maybe I should try this. I'm not working out - just walking is painful but I've been told I must keep moving.

Lori's avatar

You can also try topical DMSO as well if this does not work.

Diana Barahona's avatar

I just started using DMSO and taking 1/4 tsp per day of borax for annoying arthritis in my fingers and toes. I've noticed greater joint mobility, and less redness and pain.

For muscles, it's yoga stretches and massaging sore muscles with a hard rubber dog ball.

Cerina's avatar

aaah Diana, this is sooo interesting that you share about borax. My mom was diagnosed with artritis recently, and I am doing so much research to help her. I read about Borax last week, and recommended it, but then she said the normal ones we buy in the store is poisonous (and she uses it to kill ants in her garden! Eeek!) She mentioned her research said something about Boron… do you just take normal borax? :)

Diana Barahona's avatar

Yes, I take Borax right out of the box. It's boron. 1/4 tsp is a bit high, but it keeps me regular. ;) (Your body eliminates excess minerals through the bowels.)

So, I heat up 2 cups of water in the microwave, add the boron and stir. Since I drink several cups of water throughout the day, I just add some of the boron solution to my drinking water. It doesn't matter how you do it, but they say to space it.

longletters's avatar

👍

I know someone who recently started using that for a long term torn shoulder that was bad enough to limit activity. This person is now back to training and participating in sports at a higher level without wearing a brace and without the pain they would always feel. Other things have healed too, apparently, just a slew of old injuries. 1x/week application of an aloe vera dmso pure water mixture. It's a sulfur molecule, though from reports, it seems out in front of the rest that I have tried.

Personal experience is limited: I tried it once on a burn and it did all the things people say it does. However, it also "heals" ie clears out botox, and as I get that for overactive muscles, I haven't yet tried it for more.

jwemd's avatar

Anecdotal series of one, but I experienced considerable improvement of my osteoarthritis/DJD pain using these this combination.

Steveo's avatar

Keep moving and consider either borax (trace mineral boron) or chlorine dioxide. Look into Jim Hummel, Andreas Kalcker, curious outlier

Diana Barahona's avatar

I've used Borax off and on for arthritis. Not a cure, but reduces redness and pain. For muscle pain it's yoga and massage with a hard rubber dog ball.

Steveo's avatar

I appreciate your feedback!

Barbara Charis's avatar

I got rid of arthritis in 1986 by simply eliminating the foods that caused it. The wrong food is the culprit! Many 'good' foods people eat have side effects. There is a good book by Dr. James Braly, M.D. and Ron Hoggan, M.A. entitled Dangerous Grains...It states that 200 diseases are caused by grains. I gave them up in 1986. No more arthritis. Another food, which causes joint and ligament problems are the Nightshades...They have a toxin in them called solanine, which causes painful problems.. A few years back I woke up one morning and couldn't walk, my right ankle was red and swollen. I checked the foods I was eating and discovered that I was using jalapeno peppers in my eggs almost daily...and stopped them. It took awhile to heal, because i was in my late 80s, but it was the peppers that caused my problem. I have overcome almost every health issue by discovering the cause...primarily the wrong food and eliminating it. .

longletters's avatar

It's very easy to try. I use turmeric powder as a spice on yogurt fruit bowl (strained yogurt because the whey can cause pain). I have a spinal injury and it's part of my daily regimen. Yes it works, although spinal pain is on a whole other level.

I think his point about possibly interfering with healing is valid for any inflammatory suppressant, but there is a difference between useful inflammation and endless, purposeless inflammation.

There are other nutritional approaches and treatments that can help besides nsaids. A number of nutritional supplements which are in the sulfur category are helpful for that type of pain; supplements like quercetin are helpful for pain and could help reset the system (even nsaids produce pain reliever tolerance); hyaluronic acid is a different type of painkiller as well as rebuilding or cushioning joint tissue depending on its mode of application.

And I will mention that hyaluronic injections and PRP treatments are both in the wheelhouse for knee problems. PRP even improves surgery outcomes for knees specifically. I haven't used it after surgery, only on its own, and it's been amazing for me. It cleared scar tissue from 2 joints (ankle, shoulder ) and took them from level 7+ to 0-1 pain, which has lasted several years for each site. These sorts of treatments are prepared for by stopping all anti-inflammatory medications and supplements a couple weeks beforehand, and that includes turmeric, ginger, and that entire family of spices as well as the supplements people use for the purpose.

Renee Morris's avatar

Another anecdotal reply: Last summer, I had 2 large dogs (one was mine, lol) run straight into my right knee at the dog park; about 140lbs total at full ramming-speed. Severe knee pain that felt like something was torn, or broken, or both. Good news, it was just sore and painful. Decided to use myself as an experiment: I took Aleve 1x a day for 2 days, then took an organic Turmeric blend tablet (with Ginger Root & Black Pepper extract, all in was 610 mg 1x per day for 2 days). Then, switched back to Aleve 1x for 1 day, Turmeric tablet 1x for 1 day, and without a doubt, my knee felt much better each day that I used the Turmeric. So, as the second week began, I simply took 1 Turmeric each day over the next week and by the end of those two weeks, all discomfort was gone.

A couple of months ago, I was out walking my dog and met up with a neighbor walking his, though it was easy to see he was in pain. He had wrenched his back four days prior, had been using all types of OTC meds, nothing was helping. I told him the same Dog-Park / Turmeric story. He went out that day, bought the same brand, I saw him on another walk two days later, and he relayed that his back was already getting much better after using the Turmeric. He was so relieved and so happy. His words, not mine, “I hadn’t had any improvement during the first four days, then two days of using Turmeric, and I was astonished at how much better my back was already feeling.”

Michael Long MD's avatar

Do we have any information on potential side effects of this combination on the liver/kidneys?

Jonjon's avatar

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Turmeric and Borax got rid of my psiatic pain in-my right leg.

Eleanor Hall's avatar

Sue, I have been using DMSO (Dimethyl sulfoxide applied after applying a CBD/THC balm for more than 4 years on my low back for back pain, and find it manage the pain. However, incorporating stretching and "danlging" to stretch the back out (for those with spinal issues) should be included. A Midwestern Doctor has written an incredible series on DMSO and it's many uses: https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/the-remarkable-history-and-safety?r=1ft01a&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

Tumeric and boswellia are also wonderful anti-inflammatory herbs to incorporate.

Sue's avatar

Thanks Eleanor, reading it now!

Maha's avatar

Hard to give specific advice without seeing the patient, but a round of physical therapy with a good mechanical analysis is recommended to ascertain whether imbalances in muscle groups may be worsening the mechanics of your knee function. (This can originate out or downstream from the problem, weak Glut medius can put undo pressure on the medial meniscus, for instance, or pronation of the foot/ankle can cause medial tibial rotation.

With some corrective exercise, your gait may be less painful, depending of course on the severity of your meniscus injury.

Sue's avatar

Yes Maha, I have been advised by a physiotherapist to cycle on an exercise bike and also to try walking in the pool to strengthen the muscles in my thighs. Also trying to walk normally and not to limp which does seem to be helping.

Deb Pezold's avatar

It’s true, and it turns off rheumatic arthritis attacks and clears them up in 3 days, with total rest.

Sue's avatar

Thank you everybody for all this information. I have been feeling quite upset since my diagnosis as the implication has been that it's just something you should expect at 67 so put up with it. Having read all these replies, I now feel there are options for me to try so thank you all - you have really cheered me up!

Maha's avatar

We used this combination PLUS powdered ginger in capsules as a triple relief formula for arthritis and acute musculoskeletal pain sufferers for about two decades in practice.

It is noteworthy that Curcumin is poorly absorbed. Methods that go back thousands of years in India involve taking it with Black Pepper, fats like coconut, and herbs we associate with curries.

Modern techniques involve creating liposomal delivery systems.

Curcuminoids can be irritating on the gastric lining, so taking it with food was always my recommendation, as was the entire combination.

Diana Barahona's avatar

Some Indians boil the turmeric root in milk. The butterfat aids absorption.

Maha's avatar

Yes. That's another way to do it!

Dena's avatar

Important point taking curcumin along with a fat ( I eat some avocado) & pepper for absorption. Some tumeric capsules already include the pepper.

Chronodamus's avatar

Yes Haldi and marich were used together in curry with coconut oil (only in south India) but No Ayurveda text prescribes Haridra + Maricha as a standalone two-ingredient preparation.

You have them together in sesame oil, not ever mentioned in coconut oil. And they are used in combo with many other herbs.

please don’t tell bs and exaggerate

Nothing you wrote has any correlation to Ayurveda or Indian wisdom

Ayurveda never isolated piperine's mechanism; it worked with whole-plant synergies in multi-herb contexts.

ancient wisdom isnt modern reductionistic ideas. They are polar opposites.

Maha's avatar

And my Naturopathic buddies (NDs) from India who grow their own tumeric fields in India to avoid high lead contamination often found in tumeric suggested those combinations as I mentioned them. They produce a product of powdered turmeric, coconut and black pepper and sell it locally and across the country.

So don't tell me it's BS or an "exaggeration". Perhaps you should work on you communication skills.

Chronodamus's avatar

That’s nice, they are following westernized bs. That’s why they are NDs and know nothing of their own heritage. It’s not Ayurveda or Indian.

might wanna figure out who you are replying to before you say stupid stuff.

None of that is Indian or ancient.

No ancient text prescribes Haridra + Maricha as a standalone two-ingredient preparation. None. Out of thousands of formulations. And none with coconut oil.

do you want references and in depth explanation?

or you already know it all while prescribing turmeric, black pepper and ginger powder incorrectly for arthritis and acute musculoskeletal pain which will make the actual disease of arthritis worse because you are drying them out even further.

Maha's avatar

I got great results with the formula I prescribed. The docs I mentioned studied Ayurveda before they became NDs.

Give a rest. At this point I don't care what you think. You're rude, and not worth communicating with. You are obviously an expert--always certain and seldom correct.

Learn how to communicate with a respectful tone.

Roxane Meier's avatar

I tried this and WOW. Amazing.

szgrad's avatar

Actually, all of this pales in comparison to traditional Chinese medicine. Authentic traditional Chinese medicine is truly amazing. I have witnessed emergency patients regain consciousness immediately after treatment; it is incredible and beyond belief. Unfortunately, traditional Chinese medicine in China is heavily suppressed. Behind the scenes, various interest groups spread false narratives branding it unscientific. It is rather tragic.

Rick Zammuto's avatar

My wife and I have used them both daily for many years to stop knee pain and arthritis.

Chronodamus's avatar

Gosh, taking two herbs from ancient medicine yet completely out of context.

I wonder what would happen if you learned the ancient medicine instead and used them within their context

Max Azoury's avatar

"There is an important caveat, however. After strenuous exercise or tissue injury, the early inflammatory response helps clear damaged tissue and initiate repair and adaptation. In theory, aggressively suppressing that response could also blunt some of the normal recovery and remodeling process, particularly if strong anti-inflammatory agents are used repeatedly around training."

This is why I can trust your reporting. I was about to look into this and ask AI if this could happen but in the next paragraph you said it. I'm still going to have to give this a try, sounds amazing. I wonder how it helps with chronic pain.

LDub's avatar

Any suggestions on a good source for this combo?

David 1260's avatar

Skimming the study, it appears the testing was done with Rhuleave-K, which is available on Amazon.

jimmmy's avatar

Now I can skip leg day, incur the agony when I catch up and pop some tumeric/boswellia. Though the next day agony is more like the next 3ish days - so.

Thomas Davis's avatar

Dosage of Boswellia?

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Never question what God put on this earth .

ENCmd's avatar

Cancer bone pain suggestions please?

Trevor's avatar

Thank you Thank you Thank you. VAX INJURED