Aha!!! We now know where John Leake gets his political opinion. Tucker Carlson. Who else do you know who has been spewing about ‘Christian Zionists’???? The veil has slipped.
And Tucker is 100 percent correct. The question is, why are you kissing DC's ass? Is it because you believe Trump is some messiah? Neocons surround Trump. Israel's Netanyahu is the biggest. Why don't you pick up a gun and fight for Zionism? Show us your courage to stand by your convictions.
So Phil, what's your response, when the terrorist negotiator across the negotiating table, threatens they can build 11 nukes in a few weeks? From a regime that comfortably kills 20-30,000 of their own citizenry, for speaking their mind.
Should Trump be kissing Iran's ass?
Should you move to Iran? Seems you'd prefer Iranian terrorists, to the good old USA.
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! Remember that one? Again, nothing can be trusted from DC or Israel. Iran knows it can never win a kinetic war with the US. And nuclear activity against the old USA would end the Middle East in minutes.
Why can't you guys get outside of the propaganda? Iran wants nukes because Israel has them. And Netanyahu wants Iran destroyed. What would you do?
Iran is no Saint, but they are still a sovereign nation with lots of people. Zionism is real, Israel wants more land, and is using the US firepower they do not have. Trump's head is inside Netanyahu's ass. Why can't you see this?
The US/Israel alliance, is an intense partnership.
Maybe we'll get another ally or three in the ME when the dust settles... but for now, our only real ME ally seems to be Israel.
Do you hate Jews?
Do you hate Trump?
Do you want to lose to Iran... even though we've dropped them to their knees and we're in control. Yes, they're terrorists, many want 72 virgins when they die on their swords. Some of them still have rocket launchers. Russia and China bring materials and support to Iran.
Cut and run?
Be specific on "the propaganda" we're not seeing... or not.
You've just used the propaganda. Small groups believe in 72 virgins, yet it's assigned to a whole nation. This is how bottom feeders in DC work. They use small truisms in small places and blow them up into large narratives.
interesting! we obviously tried to rid ourselves of the true neocons this time around but few understand the spiritual significance of what a neocon really is. Thanks for enlightening us to which is side of the isle you align with.
So what? Western leaders do deport themselves as superiors who will not countenance any reasonable or even rational discussions with those deemed inferior. Cursing, name-calling, threats of annihilation are the hallmarks of bullies, not of honorable and mature men and women. I believe peaceful and profitable coexistence is possible between all nations but only if both overt and covert operations to divide and destroy others is stopped. PS all covert ops, financial sanctions, blockades, etc. should be considered acts of war and "we" here in the West should not be engaging in any of them. The colonial mindset of exploitation and control needs to die. Or we can continue, and the supply of terrorists and extremists fighting back, will be endless. I'm willing to accept that this may be the goal, sad to say.
How has the Iranian regime been subject to "colonialism and exploitation"? They took power, took hostages, threaten the USA and Israel on a regular basis, and run their country like an open air prison camp with Islamist sharia values. They have sunshine, oil and a relatively large piece of real estate.
They have built up weapons with the help of other destabilizing nations, and export terror to wherever their psychotic Mullahs instruct them.
Fatwas, hands chopped off, women raped and murdered for not wearing a head scarf, death for apostasy...what is not to condemn and be very wary of here?
At the very least these regimes need to sequestered, which forces whoever wish to not be part of it to be stuck. If they bluster and threaten, they are telling us their plans. Why should we just acquiesce as they come and run suicide missions on American citizens?
Well let's start with the CIA & UK sponsored coup to remove a democratically elected prime minister, Moseddegh, and replace him with the Shah, who ran a repressive regime that killed, imprisoned, tortured etc thousands, all for the benefit of Western oil companies, especially BP. Moseddegh wanted a better cut of the profits for his country, and that was a big anti-colonial sin. So he had to be removed especially when he had the temerity to nationalize the oil fields. The Shah did such a good job that a revolution formed to get rid of him and Western influence and gave all the reasons in the world for the newly-minted extremists to hate on us. Western propaganda would have you believe these people were just born hating us. I am not excusing the violent retribution by the Iranians, nor the current repressive nature of some of the Islamic countries, but you need to understand that their actions against us did not arise in a vacuum. Instead of fairly sharing in the oil bounty, the West took decisive actions to keep the oil sands and the countries in the ME under their hegemonic control.
No, we have made blunders in foreign policy. However all the Middle East sheikdoms control their own oil. It took our technologists to get it out of the ground for them. They are not under our "hegemonic control".
The Iranian Islamic regime should have been eliminated in its infancy by any previous president. Now it's a bigger job. It will get done, hopefully. Islamism is not compatible with progress or freedom. The answer to freedom is more freedom. But it needs a safe environment where bad actors are removed. If you feel the US is the bad actor in this scenario, we disagree.
The control is not through "hegemony" but through the petrodollar. Find out how it functions and you will see the true reason for the fight. Along the same lines lies Washington's fury with Brazil over the payments system Pix, which Trump considers to be the threat to his government's financial control. As for "progress and freedom" find out how much your government owes, to China especially. Far from free, you´re completely beholden to your creditors.
Stupid, Jan. There is widespread recognition of the psychopathic religious extremism of the “Christian”Zionists. What Tucker’s input reinforces, however, is how massively politically wounded Trump is. So stew in your Trump Delusional/Dead-ender Syndrome.
Tucker is the wounded one. Trump doesn't give two shits, what (stupid) people like you burp out. The more the merrier for him.
There's only one outcome; Iran will not have nuclear capabilities. They've proved their evil, too many times. Tucker, Leake and people like you, have lost your marbles. You have zero alt courses of action.
All the other shit, is just day dreaming noise... with an agenda.
Iran already has a nuclear weapon - it’s called the Strait of Hormuz…
For decades Iran did not build nuclear weapons, although they could have in short order. Why? Because of Khamenei senior, who had the last word, prohibited it. Now that the Zionist geniuses have killed him (on the first day of this war of aggression), Iran is very likely to produce several simple gun-type nuclear weapons. Then, if Israel (or the U.S.) should be so foolish to use its nukes, three such Iranian nuclear weapons will turn Tel Aviv into a radioactive fire storm (see Ted Postal).
What makes a U.S. citizen a Patriot? Vigorously supporting the U.S. CONSTITUTION. The current US government is grossly violating the Constitution.
Clausewitz was correct in his writings and was a very effective statesman. Metternich was cut from the same broadcloth, giving Europe 100 years of fabulous wealth, peace, and scientific advancement, unprecedented in the history of mankind. But a number of the aristocracy, bureaucrats, and greedy plutocrats wanted war to advance their selfish interests and they gave us WW1, WW2, and the twin mass murderers of hundreds of millions, national socialism and communism. Very similar to many who rule today in a number of countries, looking to expand their ideologies and colonize others in the name of the proletariat, Allah, or their ethnic group.
Your post today is very true. Many long-time observers have commented on the loss of peacemakers worldwide. There are very, very few. Putin is on the list of those few; that's how crazy the West has become. The Neocons, the war lovers, regime-changing parasites are in control of DC. They only know military power. As Madeleine Albright once stated - why have the most powerful military if you can't use it. - It's shoot first, ask questions later.
"Now, in the latest war against Iran, we hear Christian Zionist fanatics— in the grip of eschatological fantasies—proclaiming that we cannot negotiate with the Iranians because they are Islamic religious fanatics"
They are fanatics John. They will die for their beliefs before they change. Because in causing massive global chaos they believe this will hasten their Mahdi (Messiah) to destroy all the infidels. They are not afraid of death but in their belief, their own death brings them great pleasures and eternal rewards by allah. This has nothing to do with Israel or Christian Zionism, but this is Shia Islam. Part of your statement is incorrect in seeking to blame Christians and Israel for this war.
Absolutely, I've mentioned this several times, so forgive the redundancy. Netenyaho has stated in speeches that he views the account of the Amalekites, as in Moses' day, as the Iranians today. In the Bible book of Samuel, God told King Saul through the prophet Samuel to annihilate the Amalekites; every child, every farm animal was to be incinerated because of what they did to the Israelites after leaving Egypt.
Netenyaho says he too will act. This is religious insanity. The regime change needs to happen in Israel. Iran is no Saint, but their desire for nukes is because of Israel. Same as Pakistan and India. Mutual assured destruction theory. Israel won't allow that natural desire. The propaganda against Iran has reached WMD lies.
Would like to see his quote in context--post link. the scriptural command was only good for one play by King Saul, due to a local event of the Amelekites behaviour during the exodus out of Egypt. Its not cart blanche approval for war for today. That said, Iranian leadership in its current form is an existential threat to Israel, the entire middle east nations (as they now see) and to Europe and to the United States. Not sure Netenyaho or President Trump needs a scriptural reference to justify the removal of this regime--they have no intention of changing their blood lust and hatred of both the USA and Israel and other Islamic nations that disagree with them.
Go look at Netanyahu's speeches. He wants the complete removal of Iran. Think I'm wrong. Go look at Gaza now, there's nothing left. That's his image of Iran. You guys are stuck inside Netanyahu's and Trump's ass. You can't see the truth of what Zionism is; it's the same as the Manifest Destiny of the 19th and 20th centuries.
RE. Gaza. Dont kill 1200+ Israeli citizens in cold blood and butchery—that were living in peaceful coexistance as neighbors--executed, raped, burnt alive.
RE. Iran. Dont lob hundreds of ballistic missiles and drones towards Israel. Dont fund proxy Islamist militias surrounding Israel (with millions or billions of dollars) that are doing exactly the same.
And by the way Abraham purchased part of the land Israel is living on. If you have an argument with your concern over zionism, talk to God who promised the land to them as an eternal inheritance.
Evidence has been gathered that Israeli leaders were not only informed of the attacks in advance and let them happen, but also enabled them in the first place.
John "..it is essential for a rational government to direct the other elements to prevent war from devolving into senseless destruction..." That's a pretty good non-sequitur argument John.
I'd say, this is what Trump is doing. He might have to do more in a few weeks. HOW does diplomacy work, when the guy across the table threatens they can have 11 nukes in a short period of time? First fucking day of negotiations -- you suggest they're trustworthy? More trustworthy than your own POTUS?
Is Iran a regime that needs/requires physical threat, as a basis for real negotiations? We've pounded on over 10,000 of their targets.... and avoided innocents where they weren't used as human shields, have avoided taking out ALL of their power supply, bridges, water plants, Kharg Island oil processing infrastructure not targeted, etc. I'd say, we're holding all the chips -- including the Strait...
Anti American is a rot worm... You're pov's have symptoms of rot disease. Why is that?
According to Iranians I listen to (in exile, in touch with those inside) the vast majority of them ... Persians! ... despise the 47 year old "Islamic Republic" and its authoritarian overlords.
Trump's conflict is primarily aimed to help free the Iranian people from the Shia tyrants and restore Iran to its people. That is, also, to eliminate the main sponsors of terrorism in the region, and create some stability in the Middle East.
Will it work? Maybe. Is it pointless or just about projecting American an power? No.
To me, you are making the Islamic terrorists and Putin out as good and reasonable, while the US and everyone in the West is evil and stupid.
Please re-think that.
Trump is a one-of. He's but mad north by north-west.
Remember that he is talking to different audiences. He is trying to do the least damage at the least cost, and get the most benefit for the US. And he is negotiating with mad-men, who really do mean it when they say "Death to America." They are religious zealots, although they know when to turn on the charm for American audiences, such as you.
Hilarious. John, you mention the Comanche--the derivation of that name coming from enemy or "wants to fight me all the time". This is apropos of their historic nature for warfare, conquest and slavery/vassal status of all who they forced into submission. As you also note, their name, like almost all tribal names means "The People". What these tribes really mean is they are people and all others are not.
An interesting historical note; the Comanche, thanks to their adoption of the horse and their skills at horse mounted warfare, harried the fierce APACHE so badly that the Apache begged the Spanish garrison in Santa Fe, who they had been warring with, to protect them. It did them no good. The Comanche made pincushions of the Spanish, firing 20 arrows a minute during their charges on troops that fired once and had to reload.
Why is this hilarious? The behavior of the Comanche and the Islamists in Iran have parallels a historian like you should find obvious. Thankfully, the Islamists have had a far shorter run than the Comanche, but their ending will still come as shock to the Islamists, just as it did to the Comanche.
Finally, please stop with the whining about Zionists, Jewish, Christian, or other. Zionism is the desire for Jews to have a homeland after 2000 years of brutal treatment at the hands of the Catholics, the Johnny-come-lately Muslims, Martin Luther and his associates, and the Communists and Nazis. Their homeland needs defending, from later day Comanches.
And yet there are many Jewish religious groups which oppose the idea of a Jewish homeland, especially before the coming of the Messiah. This points to the fact that Zionism has no theological foundation.
Hanna, after your first cogent comment, this posting comes as a surprise. Somehow, you are suggesting that all Jews must think as a monolithic block. What demographic does that? As a Norwegian/Swedish American, my beliefs on any topic are not in 100% accordance with people of my background, even within my own extended family. According to AntiSemitism.org, 95% of Jews worldwide do support Zionism--a safe place of return for Jewish people.
Your statement that "Zionism has no theological foundation" is completely beside the point. Zionism is a reaction to historical events, not a scriptural imperative.
Perhaps a review of the historical events would be instructive, although normal people find it hard to make it through a single chapter without recoiling in horror.
Former RAF officer Malcolm Hay wrote Europe and the Jews--The Pressure of Christendom on the People of Israel for 1900 years. He starts with the Nazi purge and then goes back to the origins of Anti-Semitism throughout Europe and Russia.
Anglican Minister William Nicholls provides another prospective in Christian Antisemitism--A History of Hate.
Finally, for a well rounded history, British historian Paul Johnson covers it all in A History of the Jews. Truthful detailed well researched analysis of ancient to modern times.
No, I´m not suggesting that "all Jews must think as a monolithic block". I´m saying that given the fact that the right to a "Jewish homeland" is based on the content of the Bible, the frontiers of this homeland included, and given the fact that the views of the groups I have mentioned are based on theological precepts extracted from the teachings of the Bible, also Zionism should present the theological basis for their beliefs, which they didn´t.
When I say "a Jewish homeland" I mean this particular homeland, in this particular place, as indicated by the Bible, with the frontiers established by the Bible. Therefore, there is what you call "a scriptural imperative".
It appears as it you are using Torah writings as a stumbling block, but the history of the Jews suggest they need their homeland, and they have done quite well with it. Agriculture, biotechnology and medicine, the basis of the computer chips you use were co-designed by Israelis. Upon creation of the State of Israel, with a portion of their former land granted to them, they were attacked by the Arab League--multiple times and Israel prevailed in each conflict.
Why, rather than attack the Jews for surviving, call out the Arabs with millions of square miles of rock and sand surrounding them, for not being welcoming? Genetics show that any Jew, and that includes the Ashkenazi, traces back in their matrilineal DNA to common ancestors with the Arabs over 3000 years ago. They are all distant cousins.
Part of the problem is confusing the ethnic and religious denomination (Jews) with the geographical denomination (Arabs). Bearing in mind their origin, we would have to accept that Jews are Arabs. Am I right? Anyways, I must say it´s the first time I hear someone say that "Jews" and "Arabs" are cousins. Quite a surprise.
A prime example of the brain damage caused by TDS, in this case manifested by either being asleep or simply ignorant of the 47 years spent with various diplomatic efforts to get Iran to back off its stated intent to destroy the US, Israel and the Jews.
Yet it was Trump who withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) signed in 2015 by U.S., UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, plus the EU, which functioned, and adopted the policy of "maximum pressure" which left no room for any diplomatic maneuver.
The quotation, which may be apocryphal, is that when asked what he thought of Western civilization, Gandhi replied, “I think it *would be* a good idea.”
So who do you think wants to keep the wars going? I don't believe it is Trump. I believe he wants to get along with our "adversaries" as much as is reasonable and co-exist in a multipolar world.
John, the historical and intellectual perspective is essential . thank you.
However, what we have here is Fanaticism by Zionist leading West, not regime change..what sweet lovely words ...but ruthless State decapitation of the weak..Iraq, Venezuela, Iran...for State Angrandisment, either land or resources. Trump said, without an ounce self knowledge, "Spoils to the victor goes.." ...so you initiate to obliterate, kidnap,slaughter (assasinate just to nice a word) the head of state who you pretend are threatening you, and then voila, you have its oil, or in the Zionist case, land land land...The west bank..killing without end, Gaza an atrocity far worse then the so called Holocaust, lebanon a repeated horror, and now Iran...
Diplomacy could not achieve any of those ends, never had and never will.
How lovely is it that it is all wrapped in the mantle of the Board of Peace. Threads of yesteryear...the Covid Shot..Warp Speed...oh yes, Safe and effective. Decapitate..safe and effective. It is manifestly clear Trump's foreign policy is the making by Bibi. Heaven help us.
Aha!!! We now know where John Leake gets his political opinion. Tucker Carlson. Who else do you know who has been spewing about ‘Christian Zionists’???? The veil has slipped.
And Tucker is 100 percent correct. The question is, why are you kissing DC's ass? Is it because you believe Trump is some messiah? Neocons surround Trump. Israel's Netanyahu is the biggest. Why don't you pick up a gun and fight for Zionism? Show us your courage to stand by your convictions.
So Phil, what's your response, when the terrorist negotiator across the negotiating table, threatens they can build 11 nukes in a few weeks? From a regime that comfortably kills 20-30,000 of their own citizenry, for speaking their mind.
Should Trump be kissing Iran's ass?
Should you move to Iran? Seems you'd prefer Iranian terrorists, to the good old USA.
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! Remember that one? Again, nothing can be trusted from DC or Israel. Iran knows it can never win a kinetic war with the US. And nuclear activity against the old USA would end the Middle East in minutes.
Why can't you guys get outside of the propaganda? Iran wants nukes because Israel has them. And Netanyahu wants Iran destroyed. What would you do?
Iran is no Saint, but they are still a sovereign nation with lots of people. Zionism is real, Israel wants more land, and is using the US firepower they do not have. Trump's head is inside Netanyahu's ass. Why can't you see this?
Thank you, Phil.....you appear to be one of the rare people who sees the propaganda and both sides of the situation. I'm in agreement!
Iran is a theocratic dictatorship with 90 million captives.
The US/Israel alliance, is an intense partnership.
Maybe we'll get another ally or three in the ME when the dust settles... but for now, our only real ME ally seems to be Israel.
Do you hate Jews?
Do you hate Trump?
Do you want to lose to Iran... even though we've dropped them to their knees and we're in control. Yes, they're terrorists, many want 72 virgins when they die on their swords. Some of them still have rocket launchers. Russia and China bring materials and support to Iran.
Cut and run?
Be specific on "the propaganda" we're not seeing... or not.
You've just used the propaganda. Small groups believe in 72 virgins, yet it's assigned to a whole nation. This is how bottom feeders in DC work. They use small truisms in small places and blow them up into large narratives.
Dude, don't ever get trapped in a wet paper bag.
interesting! we obviously tried to rid ourselves of the true neocons this time around but few understand the spiritual significance of what a neocon really is. Thanks for enlightening us to which is side of the isle you align with.
So what? Western leaders do deport themselves as superiors who will not countenance any reasonable or even rational discussions with those deemed inferior. Cursing, name-calling, threats of annihilation are the hallmarks of bullies, not of honorable and mature men and women. I believe peaceful and profitable coexistence is possible between all nations but only if both overt and covert operations to divide and destroy others is stopped. PS all covert ops, financial sanctions, blockades, etc. should be considered acts of war and "we" here in the West should not be engaging in any of them. The colonial mindset of exploitation and control needs to die. Or we can continue, and the supply of terrorists and extremists fighting back, will be endless. I'm willing to accept that this may be the goal, sad to say.
How has the Iranian regime been subject to "colonialism and exploitation"? They took power, took hostages, threaten the USA and Israel on a regular basis, and run their country like an open air prison camp with Islamist sharia values. They have sunshine, oil and a relatively large piece of real estate.
They have built up weapons with the help of other destabilizing nations, and export terror to wherever their psychotic Mullahs instruct them.
Fatwas, hands chopped off, women raped and murdered for not wearing a head scarf, death for apostasy...what is not to condemn and be very wary of here?
At the very least these regimes need to sequestered, which forces whoever wish to not be part of it to be stuck. If they bluster and threaten, they are telling us their plans. Why should we just acquiesce as they come and run suicide missions on American citizens?
Well let's start with the CIA & UK sponsored coup to remove a democratically elected prime minister, Moseddegh, and replace him with the Shah, who ran a repressive regime that killed, imprisoned, tortured etc thousands, all for the benefit of Western oil companies, especially BP. Moseddegh wanted a better cut of the profits for his country, and that was a big anti-colonial sin. So he had to be removed especially when he had the temerity to nationalize the oil fields. The Shah did such a good job that a revolution formed to get rid of him and Western influence and gave all the reasons in the world for the newly-minted extremists to hate on us. Western propaganda would have you believe these people were just born hating us. I am not excusing the violent retribution by the Iranians, nor the current repressive nature of some of the Islamic countries, but you need to understand that their actions against us did not arise in a vacuum. Instead of fairly sharing in the oil bounty, the West took decisive actions to keep the oil sands and the countries in the ME under their hegemonic control.
No, we have made blunders in foreign policy. However all the Middle East sheikdoms control their own oil. It took our technologists to get it out of the ground for them. They are not under our "hegemonic control".
The Iranian Islamic regime should have been eliminated in its infancy by any previous president. Now it's a bigger job. It will get done, hopefully. Islamism is not compatible with progress or freedom. The answer to freedom is more freedom. But it needs a safe environment where bad actors are removed. If you feel the US is the bad actor in this scenario, we disagree.
The control is not through "hegemony" but through the petrodollar. Find out how it functions and you will see the true reason for the fight. Along the same lines lies Washington's fury with Brazil over the payments system Pix, which Trump considers to be the threat to his government's financial control. As for "progress and freedom" find out how much your government owes, to China especially. Far from free, you´re completely beholden to your creditors.
How'd loveable Jimmy Carter do with the animal terrorists?
Stupid, Jan. There is widespread recognition of the psychopathic religious extremism of the “Christian”Zionists. What Tucker’s input reinforces, however, is how massively politically wounded Trump is. So stew in your Trump Delusional/Dead-ender Syndrome.
Tucker is the wounded one. Trump doesn't give two shits, what (stupid) people like you burp out. The more the merrier for him.
There's only one outcome; Iran will not have nuclear capabilities. They've proved their evil, too many times. Tucker, Leake and people like you, have lost your marbles. You have zero alt courses of action.
All the other shit, is just day dreaming noise... with an agenda.
Imagine Trump calling Tucker “low IQ”. That has to be the Projection if the Century.
Iran already has a nuclear weapon - it’s called the Strait of Hormuz…
For decades Iran did not build nuclear weapons, although they could have in short order. Why? Because of Khamenei senior, who had the last word, prohibited it. Now that the Zionist geniuses have killed him (on the first day of this war of aggression), Iran is very likely to produce several simple gun-type nuclear weapons. Then, if Israel (or the U.S.) should be so foolish to use its nukes, three such Iranian nuclear weapons will turn Tel Aviv into a radioactive fire storm (see Ted Postal).
What makes a U.S. citizen a Patriot? Vigorously supporting the U.S. CONSTITUTION. The current US government is grossly violating the Constitution.
Two men I both admire: Tucker and John! To me they seem righteous.
Clausewitz was correct in his writings and was a very effective statesman. Metternich was cut from the same broadcloth, giving Europe 100 years of fabulous wealth, peace, and scientific advancement, unprecedented in the history of mankind. But a number of the aristocracy, bureaucrats, and greedy plutocrats wanted war to advance their selfish interests and they gave us WW1, WW2, and the twin mass murderers of hundreds of millions, national socialism and communism. Very similar to many who rule today in a number of countries, looking to expand their ideologies and colonize others in the name of the proletariat, Allah, or their ethnic group.
Your post today is very true. Many long-time observers have commented on the loss of peacemakers worldwide. There are very, very few. Putin is on the list of those few; that's how crazy the West has become. The Neocons, the war lovers, regime-changing parasites are in control of DC. They only know military power. As Madeleine Albright once stated - why have the most powerful military if you can't use it. - It's shoot first, ask questions later.
"Now, in the latest war against Iran, we hear Christian Zionist fanatics— in the grip of eschatological fantasies—proclaiming that we cannot negotiate with the Iranians because they are Islamic religious fanatics"
They are fanatics John. They will die for their beliefs before they change. Because in causing massive global chaos they believe this will hasten their Mahdi (Messiah) to destroy all the infidels. They are not afraid of death but in their belief, their own death brings them great pleasures and eternal rewards by allah. This has nothing to do with Israel or Christian Zionism, but this is Shia Islam. Part of your statement is incorrect in seeking to blame Christians and Israel for this war.
Absolutely, I've mentioned this several times, so forgive the redundancy. Netenyaho has stated in speeches that he views the account of the Amalekites, as in Moses' day, as the Iranians today. In the Bible book of Samuel, God told King Saul through the prophet Samuel to annihilate the Amalekites; every child, every farm animal was to be incinerated because of what they did to the Israelites after leaving Egypt.
Netenyaho says he too will act. This is religious insanity. The regime change needs to happen in Israel. Iran is no Saint, but their desire for nukes is because of Israel. Same as Pakistan and India. Mutual assured destruction theory. Israel won't allow that natural desire. The propaganda against Iran has reached WMD lies.
Would like to see his quote in context--post link. the scriptural command was only good for one play by King Saul, due to a local event of the Amelekites behaviour during the exodus out of Egypt. Its not cart blanche approval for war for today. That said, Iranian leadership in its current form is an existential threat to Israel, the entire middle east nations (as they now see) and to Europe and to the United States. Not sure Netenyaho or President Trump needs a scriptural reference to justify the removal of this regime--they have no intention of changing their blood lust and hatred of both the USA and Israel and other Islamic nations that disagree with them.
Go look at Netanyahu's speeches. He wants the complete removal of Iran. Think I'm wrong. Go look at Gaza now, there's nothing left. That's his image of Iran. You guys are stuck inside Netanyahu's and Trump's ass. You can't see the truth of what Zionism is; it's the same as the Manifest Destiny of the 19th and 20th centuries.
RE. Gaza. Dont kill 1200+ Israeli citizens in cold blood and butchery—that were living in peaceful coexistance as neighbors--executed, raped, burnt alive.
RE. Iran. Dont lob hundreds of ballistic missiles and drones towards Israel. Dont fund proxy Islamist militias surrounding Israel (with millions or billions of dollars) that are doing exactly the same.
And by the way Abraham purchased part of the land Israel is living on. If you have an argument with your concern over zionism, talk to God who promised the land to them as an eternal inheritance.
Evidence has been gathered that Israeli leaders were not only informed of the attacks in advance and let them happen, but also enabled them in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDmc-eAb_as
John "..it is essential for a rational government to direct the other elements to prevent war from devolving into senseless destruction..." That's a pretty good non-sequitur argument John.
I'd say, this is what Trump is doing. He might have to do more in a few weeks. HOW does diplomacy work, when the guy across the table threatens they can have 11 nukes in a short period of time? First fucking day of negotiations -- you suggest they're trustworthy? More trustworthy than your own POTUS?
Is Iran a regime that needs/requires physical threat, as a basis for real negotiations? We've pounded on over 10,000 of their targets.... and avoided innocents where they weren't used as human shields, have avoided taking out ALL of their power supply, bridges, water plants, Kharg Island oil processing infrastructure not targeted, etc. I'd say, we're holding all the chips -- including the Strait...
Anti American is a rot worm... You're pov's have symptoms of rot disease. Why is that?
so well said John; marvellous writing;
According to Iranians I listen to (in exile, in touch with those inside) the vast majority of them ... Persians! ... despise the 47 year old "Islamic Republic" and its authoritarian overlords.
Trump's conflict is primarily aimed to help free the Iranian people from the Shia tyrants and restore Iran to its people. That is, also, to eliminate the main sponsors of terrorism in the region, and create some stability in the Middle East.
Will it work? Maybe. Is it pointless or just about projecting American an power? No.
Another great insightful article. Made me think. And couldn't disagree with anything you said.
I miss civility too. Sadly, not everyone responds to it.
Did you really write that last paragraph?
Re-read it, please.
To me, you are making the Islamic terrorists and Putin out as good and reasonable, while the US and everyone in the West is evil and stupid.
Please re-think that.
Trump is a one-of. He's but mad north by north-west.
Remember that he is talking to different audiences. He is trying to do the least damage at the least cost, and get the most benefit for the US. And he is negotiating with mad-men, who really do mean it when they say "Death to America." They are religious zealots, although they know when to turn on the charm for American audiences, such as you.
Hilarious. John, you mention the Comanche--the derivation of that name coming from enemy or "wants to fight me all the time". This is apropos of their historic nature for warfare, conquest and slavery/vassal status of all who they forced into submission. As you also note, their name, like almost all tribal names means "The People". What these tribes really mean is they are people and all others are not.
An interesting historical note; the Comanche, thanks to their adoption of the horse and their skills at horse mounted warfare, harried the fierce APACHE so badly that the Apache begged the Spanish garrison in Santa Fe, who they had been warring with, to protect them. It did them no good. The Comanche made pincushions of the Spanish, firing 20 arrows a minute during their charges on troops that fired once and had to reload.
Why is this hilarious? The behavior of the Comanche and the Islamists in Iran have parallels a historian like you should find obvious. Thankfully, the Islamists have had a far shorter run than the Comanche, but their ending will still come as shock to the Islamists, just as it did to the Comanche.
Finally, please stop with the whining about Zionists, Jewish, Christian, or other. Zionism is the desire for Jews to have a homeland after 2000 years of brutal treatment at the hands of the Catholics, the Johnny-come-lately Muslims, Martin Luther and his associates, and the Communists and Nazis. Their homeland needs defending, from later day Comanches.
And yet there are many Jewish religious groups which oppose the idea of a Jewish homeland, especially before the coming of the Messiah. This points to the fact that Zionism has no theological foundation.
Hanna, after your first cogent comment, this posting comes as a surprise. Somehow, you are suggesting that all Jews must think as a monolithic block. What demographic does that? As a Norwegian/Swedish American, my beliefs on any topic are not in 100% accordance with people of my background, even within my own extended family. According to AntiSemitism.org, 95% of Jews worldwide do support Zionism--a safe place of return for Jewish people.
Your statement that "Zionism has no theological foundation" is completely beside the point. Zionism is a reaction to historical events, not a scriptural imperative.
Perhaps a review of the historical events would be instructive, although normal people find it hard to make it through a single chapter without recoiling in horror.
Former RAF officer Malcolm Hay wrote Europe and the Jews--The Pressure of Christendom on the People of Israel for 1900 years. He starts with the Nazi purge and then goes back to the origins of Anti-Semitism throughout Europe and Russia.
Anglican Minister William Nicholls provides another prospective in Christian Antisemitism--A History of Hate.
Finally, for a well rounded history, British historian Paul Johnson covers it all in A History of the Jews. Truthful detailed well researched analysis of ancient to modern times.
No, I´m not suggesting that "all Jews must think as a monolithic block". I´m saying that given the fact that the right to a "Jewish homeland" is based on the content of the Bible, the frontiers of this homeland included, and given the fact that the views of the groups I have mentioned are based on theological precepts extracted from the teachings of the Bible, also Zionism should present the theological basis for their beliefs, which they didn´t.
When I say "a Jewish homeland" I mean this particular homeland, in this particular place, as indicated by the Bible, with the frontiers established by the Bible. Therefore, there is what you call "a scriptural imperative".
It appears as it you are using Torah writings as a stumbling block, but the history of the Jews suggest they need their homeland, and they have done quite well with it. Agriculture, biotechnology and medicine, the basis of the computer chips you use were co-designed by Israelis. Upon creation of the State of Israel, with a portion of their former land granted to them, they were attacked by the Arab League--multiple times and Israel prevailed in each conflict.
Why, rather than attack the Jews for surviving, call out the Arabs with millions of square miles of rock and sand surrounding them, for not being welcoming? Genetics show that any Jew, and that includes the Ashkenazi, traces back in their matrilineal DNA to common ancestors with the Arabs over 3000 years ago. They are all distant cousins.
Part of the problem is confusing the ethnic and religious denomination (Jews) with the geographical denomination (Arabs). Bearing in mind their origin, we would have to accept that Jews are Arabs. Am I right? Anyways, I must say it´s the first time I hear someone say that "Jews" and "Arabs" are cousins. Quite a surprise.
A prime example of the brain damage caused by TDS, in this case manifested by either being asleep or simply ignorant of the 47 years spent with various diplomatic efforts to get Iran to back off its stated intent to destroy the US, Israel and the Jews.
Mr. Leake's delirium is becoming tiresome.
Yet it was Trump who withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) signed in 2015 by U.S., UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, plus the EU, which functioned, and adopted the policy of "maximum pressure" which left no room for any diplomatic maneuver.
Like Gandhi said, western civilization is a good idea.
That's pretty cool, A+
I think the founding Fathers thought so too!
Might be bumps along the way....
The quotation, which may be apocryphal, is that when asked what he thought of Western civilization, Gandhi replied, “I think it *would be* a good idea.”
So who do you think wants to keep the wars going? I don't believe it is Trump. I believe he wants to get along with our "adversaries" as much as is reasonable and co-exist in a multipolar world.
Trump is surrounded by Neocons, especially Netenyaho.
An incredibly effeminate piece.
So your calling John a girl?
An unmanly man.
So war makes a man?
John, the historical and intellectual perspective is essential . thank you.
However, what we have here is Fanaticism by Zionist leading West, not regime change..what sweet lovely words ...but ruthless State decapitation of the weak..Iraq, Venezuela, Iran...for State Angrandisment, either land or resources. Trump said, without an ounce self knowledge, "Spoils to the victor goes.." ...so you initiate to obliterate, kidnap,slaughter (assasinate just to nice a word) the head of state who you pretend are threatening you, and then voila, you have its oil, or in the Zionist case, land land land...The west bank..killing without end, Gaza an atrocity far worse then the so called Holocaust, lebanon a repeated horror, and now Iran...
Diplomacy could not achieve any of those ends, never had and never will.
How lovely is it that it is all wrapped in the mantle of the Board of Peace. Threads of yesteryear...the Covid Shot..Warp Speed...oh yes, Safe and effective. Decapitate..safe and effective. It is manifestly clear Trump's foreign policy is the making by Bibi. Heaven help us.