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James Nichols's avatar

Thank you Rand Paul for your dedication and support including your timely testimony on this important topic. I myself had always believed that the COVID 19 pandemic was a complete global scam from the onset of the Lockdowns.

Dr. Fauci and His Colleagues Who Were Responsible and Directly Involved in This Global Health Crisis should All Be Serving A Life Sentence In Prison at This very moment.

The unprecedented Consequences and Impact of the Cover Up of this So Called Pandemic 😷 are far more devastating than One Could Ever Imagine:

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Angie Renee's avatar

Well the virus was made so they could offer the vaccine and really dangerous treatments. Allegedly very preplanned. Both can make us sick, the level of fear was extremely damaging to our society (act of war type level, if you read art of war you get that this was likely all part of the plan). I am curious if the studies showing damage to fertility, will get much attention. I feel like fertility has been under attack for years in North America, the testosterone levels have been steadily dropping (micro plastics? Atrazine? Pharmaceuticals?) fertility was already dropping but how much this might have further damaged peoples health and fertility. Sperm rates plunged in some , did it make a recovery?

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philipat's avatar

Hold on! As much as I like and respect Rand Paul, there's a lot here that is still open to question. Including, but not limited to : was there any novel "virus"? was there a leak at Wuhan because the timing of the earliest recorded cases does NOT support this? why was this public health issue managed by the military? why did ALL Western Governments simultaneously abandon carefully prepared pandemic response contingency plans in favor of measures in direct contradiction? Why was the binary option of either zoonotic leap or a Wuhan leak deliberately pushed through the Overton window for discussion with no other options allowed?

I'm sure Rand believes what he says and that this is not a deliberate limited hangout, but I strongly believe it isn't the entire story either.

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Prometheus Sputnik's avatar

True - i still dont believe there ever was a covid virus - the lab leak was just to have conspiracy theorists chase fake stories -

But i would like to see the proof that the virus is real and it was modified and all that - up until now i have only heard the alphabet throwing of strange "strains" that there was not any evidence shared with, we should just trust the media - which by now i dont at all.

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CB's avatar

Ralph Baric and colleagues at University of North Carolina have a patent record on enhancing corona viruses going back 25 years. Around 2014/15 he shifted the work to Wuhan when there was an effort to ban such research in the U.S. As I recall, he had a paper showing how to do it and claiming he could produce almost limitless variations. Peter Daszak (think D'asshat) was on video explaining that he ("well not me personally," probably he was thinking of Baric) could combine parts of any number of viruses to create novel viruses. So presumably (I'm not a scientist) if the Covid virus was fake then so were all its lab-made predecessors.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I believe the lab-created virus was real. My daughter and I were both hit almost simultaneously on the same day.. We were only going out to market once a week together...and it was just days after we had gone. Later, we spoke to the manager at the store and he said that many of his employees were calling in ill, too. My daughter had some HCQ and she insisted that I take it. I took it and slept 18 hours, then got up and had breakfast. However, i had a slight cough for a couple months afterwards. My daughter was very ill for over 2 weeks.

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Brien's avatar

Yes, Covid was definitely real. The question is what was it. Perhaps it was a modified(GoF) virus, but others such as Dr. Mike Yeadon believe it may have been something else, like a poison or parasite. His training in respiratory disease and his unique background and experience(Pfizer VP for 20 years as head of respiratory disease research) make him arguably the foremost expert in the world on respiratory disease. He says it is impossible to have a simultaneous outbreak of an infectious respiratory disease all over the world - everywhere at once. He says that can’t happen naturally, that the way infectious disease spreads is that you get both seasonal and geographic outbreaks that move around various regions of the world, but you cannot get a global outbreak at the same time, everywhere at once, which is what happened in 2020. Personally I don’t know, but enough doubt has been cast on the trustworthiness of the official narrative to be convinced that we weren’t and aren’t being told the truth about what really occurred, and exactly what it was that got people sick in all parts of the world at the same time.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Injecting lab-created substances directly into the bloodstream could be considered being, in the realm of committing murder. It shows either ignorance or deliberate harm on the part of doctors who do this, as It breaks the immune system down; it does not strengthen it. The internal organs, glands and cells are nourished by food nutrients carried in the bloodstream. This creates energy and health. Any other matter would be toxic and would harm them. It would be deadly to the glands in the brain.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I am sure it came from the GOF labs, where they amplify a disease to make it more effective. Our government has been doing this...from the time of the Spanish Flu. Germ warfare was used to wipe out the opposition. Our solders carried it from America to Europe.

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

If you did not take zinc together with the HCQ, HCQ by itself would have been of limited effectiveness. HCQ functions as a zinc ionophore, meaning that HCQ opens a channel in the cell, allowing the zinc to enter. Zinc is the element that is making it difficult for the virus to replicate. It is the zinc that is doing the heavy lifting, as far as reducing viral replication. HCQ's other properties is that it is an anti-inflammatory & it also raises the ph of the endosomes, making it less likely for viruses to survive. The addition of azithromycin will address a secondary bacterial infection. However, even without azithromycin, HCQ + zinc would be very effective when taken within the first 5-days of the onset of symptoms.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

I took HCQ and it worked for me...I must have had zinc in my system. I am very careful and eat a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables...no processed food.

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Angie Renee's avatar

When I got covid (or the cold and flu that year w a possible bs pcr test*)(I do think it was a really bad one for the first 2 days) I was for the most part better in 4 days. I had a long list of natural remedies likes like pine needle tea extract, dandelion tea, elderberry syrup, garlic capsules, oregano capsules a few diff supplements and vitamins. I read non stop everything and had a list of like 20 diff things that might help ready to try. (N-cytelcystein glutathione etc were new to me) (Which I think the ones I tried did help) pretty much fully better it 4 days but I did have a lingering slight cough and it felt like it didn’t want to totally clear my chest for a while, but also felt slight brain fog for quite a while. I know theories like the 5 g and extra radiation could have been making it worse, or sprays from the sky too. Having to wear a mask to go grocery shopping probably didn’t help, maybe contributing to the slight lingering effect. (Extra fires and smoke from earlier in the year also could have contributed and left a little damage).

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Prometheus! Phenomenal Response here! Love the wisdom in this response.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Dr. Mike Yeadon --veteran of the Pharma industry--has stated that ALL VIROLOGY is a hoax. A "virus" does not exist....because it is not "alive". It can neither expel waste, or take in nutrients. What are being called "viruses" are just broken bits of DNA that your body is preparing to expel.

I personally don't have the knowledge or the expertise to know...I read the book by Peter Duesberg who debunked the AIDS virus decades ago....The AIDS "vaccine" sickened and killed many thousands. It was a poison--AZT,

I never took the covid shots. I feel fine and am never sick. But now in this retirement community, I am surrounded by very ill people--including my husband....ALL OF THEM VAXXED! This is very sad to see. I was assailed numerous times by the "office" here reminding me to "get vaccinated"...right. When the moon turns to sh*t. You see, when we kick the bucket here...they can rent out our apartment and collect another hefty "deposit"

Now the residents here all have heart attacks and cancer. Very sad to see....Some people are profiting A LOT from these "vaccines" and not just Pharmya.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

p.s. INVENTING THE AIDS VIRUS by P. Duesberg....

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Elwood R. Bernat's avatar

Evil minded people are without morals, thus they are not only nefarious but also nihilists.

They are intelligent and therefore clever, and their cleverness negates any possible morality. Hence, to your point there may be counter intuitive mechanisms at work here, i.e. plan (B), and (C) to distract, invert, and intentional chaos that breeds theory (thought). So even though I accept that “there is more to it”, that allowing Fauci, or Baric ilk to become the “lone gunman” that the Leftist lunatics so often push to muddy the waters that wears people down and cause to want to move on, I must disagree with the premise that there was no Covid.

Your thoughts are palpable except for one thing. That we now have hundreds of studies by decent, morally driven doctors of science across the spectrum of research that have proven Covid and the spike protein has been found in every part of the body, first and foremost by Dr. Mac and the team at courageous discourse.

I was sick with what began as flu symptoms, eventually lasting six weeks beginning in early October 2019. Did not go to Dr, or hospital because I though it was just the flue, but it nearly killed me, except that I had already been on blood thinner and vitamin D and ate well and hydrated. My bad, or maybe not, I survived.

However, when Covid was officially rolled out in January of 2020, the thing that immediately struck me as odd was how quickly and pervasively the media everywhere showed the public exactly what this big round ball with all the spikes on it looked like, in your face 24/7, before there was any understanding of what it was. At least for we serf’s.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

ha ha...yes the big red ball is gonna getcha! I never watch the boobtube...it is just propaganda for the "controllers". Speaking of conspiracies....I heard the "big push" to get the peeps to stop smoking was because NICOTINE KILLS/or INJURES the corona virus. Now I do not know if this is just "conspiracy" or not. My parents smoked like chimneys and lived to be quite old....into their 9O's--- We tried to get Mom to stop but even when she got alzheimers and "forgot" she smoked my brother would put a lighted cigarette in her hand to calm her down when he visited her. It worked. I never wanted to smoke. But maybe I should take it up....it didn't hurt them.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

How nicotine can inhibit cytokine storm in the lungs and prevent or lessen the severity of COVID-19 infection?

Malgorzata Kloc a,b,c,**, Rafik M Ghobrial a,b, Jacek Z Kubiak d,e,*

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PMCID: PMC7836994 PMID: 32522666

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•COVID-19 positive patients who smoke are more often asymptomatic or exhibit less severe respiratory symptoms than non-smokers.

•The macrophages, which are directly infected by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, may drive the cytokine storm in the lings.

•Stimulation of macrophage ACh receptors by nicotine inhibits pro-inflammatory cytokines production and inflammatory response.

•The nicotine use may lessen or eliminate ARDS in the smoking COVID -19 patients.

Keywords: α4/α7 Nicotinic Ach receptors - nAChRs, Acute respiratory distress syndrome - ARDS, COVID-19, Cytokines, Cytokine storm, Inflammation, Lungs, Macrophages, Nicotine, SARS-CoV-2

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

p.s. I bought nicotine gum to chew just in case it DID stop the "virus"...It made me feel terrible...so I didn't use it. Tasted bad, too.

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curt s sanders's avatar

Philipat.. you are absolutely correct.. RPs book is Not the whole story. ... the Covid plandemic was a Military grade Psyop/ Global Iatrocide via a Covid slow kill mRNA bio weapon.. Both the synthetic Covid virus and the bio weapon were created in at least two, possibly four+ GOF labs over several years.. Once complete the diabolical Slow Kill formulation was issued from the DOD to Pfizer, then Moderna for mass production ..

Then it was released under the plausible cover of being a Covid vaccine..

Almost 5 years since it's release, Death from All Causes is up across the G 20 from 15 to 20%.. Ultimate goal is to eliminate over half of the Earth's human population..

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Also known as MURDER....

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i read it a year ago. it was great. i just finished your book Vaccines, also great, and now reading Vaccines, Amen by Aaron Siri which is riveting. i've had a fairly large vaccine critical library for years which is now exploding.

i always make donations to Rand Paul, Ron Johnson and the great Thomas Massie even though i don't live in their states. Paul's attacks on Fauci in those senate hearing got me through the pandemic. i hope he will continue in his efforts to get that snake behind bars. a public hanging would be preferable but i'll take what i can get.

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CB's avatar
Sep 29Edited

Let's hope the guy who took over the military's Warp Speed project and called it his own doesn't fund opponents of Rand Paul and Ron Johnson as he has against Thomas Massie. Talk about "own goals" or shooting yourself in the foot. Any small contributions I at one time sent to Epstein's best friend now go to Massie.

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

good for you!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hi Carolyn! I wanted to paste this link diving into the data Aaron Siri presented at the Congressional Hearing a couple weeks ago. I think you'll like it: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-a-congressional-hearing-revealed

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i watched the entire hearing. it's my understanding that unvaccinated children don't even get ear infections (you mentioned ear infections in your stack) and on the rare occasions when they do, a mom can dip her finger into raw milk and swab it around the ear and it will clear up (i learned that from a doctor at a weston price conference years ago. i have no children so i can't say that i tried it).

i'm 72; i had measles, mumps and chickenpox. my high school educated mother was considered perfectly capable of nursing me through these things with "old wives' tale" remedies like chicken soup, enemas and oatmeal baths to ease the itching. no one stood at my bedside praying or anything. i was never in any danger.

what the pharmaceutical companies have succeeded in doing is teaching parents that they are helpless and useless, that their instincts are meaningless, that food is not medicine and that the human race will grind to a halt without an endless round of vaccinations, lab made "food" and constant doctors' visits.

tell me that parents wouldn't know that there was something terribly wrong with their child unless an "expert" gave them a label. tell me that parents can't weigh their own infants, can't assess how "well" they are doing, can't tell if they are hitting their "milestones" adequately. all this is only to train parents in learned helplessness so they can be more easily manipulated into not protecting their children from rapacious corporations in search of new markets.

RFKjr has said for years (and i will argue against your controlled opposition theory) that the only thing standing between a child and the drug companies is a MOTHER and that the drug companies work overtime to sever that arrangement (he's also said that when he was a child, he only went to the doctor if he needed stitches, which was often).

it happened during covid. parents posted pictures on social media of "our brave little johnny" getting his booster while masked and doing "schoolwork" on zoom. parents did horrific things to their children in order to protect granny. the propaganda campaign actually managed to overturn a mother's natural instinct to protect her children at all costs and you witnessed parents willingly offering up their children for sacrifice in the name of "safety." it was sickening.

only a civilization in deep decline protects it's elderly at the cost of it's young.

thank you for sharing your substack.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

yup...Paul is very smart and he has got a medical degree! I went to hear his Dad, the great Ron Paul speak when I was a student in Ann Arbor Mi...I think he was a doctor as well! he was great! really knew his stuff and he had a huge voice....almost didn't need a microphone. Go Rand! Thanks for all you do. Fauci was crawling away by the time you got through with him.

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Martha's avatar

I'm noticing comments from those who don't believe there was even any virus. Well, way back in 2008, there was a paper published in the journal Virology, by Dr. Shi, who worked at Wuhan, who had previously worked at University North Carolina in Chapel Hill, NC, with Dr. Ralph Baric. Her paper in 2008, which I read and saved, shows her explanation of the steps she took to take a harmless bat virus, that was incapable of infecting a human cell, how she inserted an S protein, and I don't remember all the details but when she got done, that harmless bat virus would now infect human cells, I think human kidney cells at the ACE receptor. I have too many things saved to hunt for this right now, but there was also mention of the furin cleavage site, which people talk about in regard to the Covid virus. So here's the thing - if they were going to have an imaginery virus, why would Dr. Shi come to the U.S. way before 2008 to learn about virus research from Dr. Ralph Baric at UNC, and why would she go to the trouble of going back to China with US NIH funding and work in her lab on viruses and actually do the gain of function research so that by 2008 she had created this new virus - why do all this for all those years if they thought an imaginary non-existent virus would work as well. No, they were going into bat caves in China, collecting viruses, found one that they liked for this project, worked on it till they created one they thought could make a pandemic. With the 2008 paper, she thanked the NIH for funding and thanked the Chinese military who controlled her lab, thanked them for giving her space to do this work. There was also a Chinese whistle-blower who worked in Hong Kong, who had to go into hiding, but she make some videos and pointed out some of the research was not just going on in Wuhan, but was going on in Hong Kong, and in labs in the U.S., and that' true. And then - I also had read and I think saw a copy of the patent, that Bill Gates had a patent for lipid nano-particles as far back as 2017, and that is what they used to package the mRNA for the vaccine. Then there was a video from a good ways back in time, not sure what date, where Fauci & friends were talking about how they wanted to get people to start taking these mRNA vaccines, but the flu was not scary enough, and they needed something new, though they didn't say they were going to create a pandemic, but they were strategizing etc. The thing is - they did make a virus, and then they made the vaccine to fit the virus, but they did NOT make the virus right before the pandemic happened, they had the virus and were working on the vaccine way in advance of the actual pandemic - the purpose of the virus was to get people to take this vaccine. I think some involved just wanted it for the money and others involved had to know how toxic it was - the vaccine was the main bioweapon and it has killed more people than the virus and caused more disability. In a grant proposal that Peter Daszak wrote up, to get the money that he funneled to Wuhan (and they had to move a lot of this to China because Congress would not let them do it here, they wanted to avoid Congress stopping them or knowing about it), but in his grant proposal which I read about in the substack by El Gato Malo, it talked about going into caves and finding the bats, and bat viruses, and then talked about simultaneously working on vaccines they could just go i in the caves and spray around. A lot of it sounded crazy and dangerous. There are some good scientists and good researches who have been writing substacks about this since 2020 and I've been following them - I am really glad that Rand Paul figured out a lot of this, it's true he may not know "everything," but obviously he knows more than most of Congress, and I have no doubt it will be a great read. I also think it's possible, even though what he has written probably is magnificent, there may be a thing or two that others found out that he missed seeing. But - that seems to me pretty crazy to believe there is no virus. This Covid virus is very similar to what was going around during the SARS and the MERS epidemic, and they just kept working to get a better virus - some of the people behind this have been population controllers who don't mind killing a few people, and others just want to make billions, and they did. But they had such plans for their mRNA platform, and more money to be made, and I don't know if we have yet seen the last of this, but now the Arcturus vaccine was being fast tracked, and it is much more dangerous than what we have seen to date. So - this whole thing is not over yet. The whole concept though is that yes, the military wanted to make bioweapons, and the only way around the regulations is, you can make viruses to be able to make vaccines to protect against the viruses, and basically it's a shady way of making bioweapons without people realizing you are making bioweapons which are illegal, but it's all good (not) because it's for vaccines... But I get really tired of hearing "there's no virus" which keeps popping up here and there - I don't think they would spent all that time in the lab just pretending to make viruses, they were at it for probably decades. The 2008 paper may not have been the "final" virus that got released, but she was very proud that she had made a virus that would enter a human cell, and it sounds very similar to what was finally released, though they may have continued to add bits to make it a better virus to try to kill more people... I don't know. Because then the Chinese claimed to have the genetic code for the vaccine, but what they released was not the exact code, and they got rid of a lot of stuff so that the truth could not be discovered. But I am very glad for whatever Rand Paul has achieved - I admired him very much for his questioning of Fauci in Senate hearings and I have no doubt he's provided a great service with this book. And yes, there are a few people I would love to see in prison, but a few of them are still busy making dangerous vaccines, vaccines that are in fact contagious.

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CB's avatar

Think about how much of a psychopathic rat Fauci is to have lied "You are the liar, Senator Paul" when Paul accused him of financing gain of function research. He needs to forfeit his pension at the very least, but really should be charged with murder.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hi Martha! Health professional here and your comments make a lot of sense. The one thing I want to callout is that what we think of "viruses" DO exist, however our understanding of how they should work is incorrect, example being: viruses cause diseases.

Because the observed phenomenon is real and factual, but the understanding of the phenomenon of virus is flawed, we have this un-"understanding" (where we think we understanding but we don't) of the topic. The reason for this is because of the history and narratives that have shaped this topic.

I've written some work on this here if you are interested: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-disease-causing-viruses-are-pseudoscience

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

This is great! thanks....I am with you. It's not about microbes....it is about terrain. An in tact and undamaged immune system is a wonderful thing. All about selling a product --that's what "vaccines" are for....mRNA will damage the immune system and create a huge market for drugs that "treat" disease.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

nope he is NOT forfeiting anything. Fauci walked away with a guaranteed income of $4OO,OOO a year. And his wife got a big chunk of money, too. Christine Grady....another grifter working for the drug companies.

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James Nichols's avatar

I will be ordering my own personal copy of this Book 📕 this very moment. Thanks Dr. Rand for your thoughts and timeless efforts in helping Us Discover the Truth!

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David Chere-Bolelwang's avatar

This brings to mind the origins of the AIDS theory and all that followed, which has long been buried under a heap of pseudo-science falsehood.. We often look at armed conflicts as the main danger humanity is facing when there's even more harm that we are all facing as a result of rogue actors like Fauci and the moneyed cabal behind them.. (from Johannesburg)

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Spot on David! "We often look at armed conflicts as the main danger humanity is facing when there's even more harm that we are all facing" -- this is the onus for my series: "Humanity vs The Deadening" when I take a look at these forces attacking humanity: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/my-upcoming-series-on-humanity

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DaughteroftheKing's avatar

High praise coming from a historian like you, Mr. Leake:

"I believe that Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up, is one of the most important books ever written."

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

AGREED!!!!

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Corrin Strong's avatar

Covering up the origins of the Covid virus may have been the least of Fauci‘s crimes. Much more deadly was his successful effort to clear the field of all alternative treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine so the Covid vaccine could have an emergency use designation. He was just as ruthless in that effort.

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sandy's avatar

And making deadly Remdesivir THE protocol.

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Corrin Strong's avatar

Yes, and if all his crimes were uncovered, he may be the biggest mass killer in history!

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

yup....he killed hundreds of thousands with AZT during the AIDS crisis. AZT is one of the most toxic drugs ever made and it was GIVEN TO 'AIDS' victims as a "treatment" under "Dr." Fauci's direction. He's a cold blooded killer...starting with all those helpless orphans in upstate NY. Killed more people than Mengele.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

I heard the nurses called it RUN-DEATH-IS-NEAR! instead of remdesivir.

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denise ward's avatar

It's even a bigger deception than Ron Paul would be willing to contemplate. There is no virus, it was not developed in a lab, the gain of function is all baloney. Viruses are still not proven to exist. But they want to keep the fiction alive so we'll be scared of death. They want us to be frightened of everything because that keeps us weak and stupid. When we have clarity, we are strong. This world is nothing like what they've made us think it is, nor are we like they have made us think we are. We're so much more than we've been led to believe. Science has hoodwinked us a right one. The things that have worth are not measurable, especially not with the primitive tools we have at present. We've gone right off the rails. We are nature, what does that mean? We have no clue what this realm is about, nor about our own body. Yet flim flam scientists look to "outer space" to spawn more havoc where they cannot even tread. Because even "outer space" is not like they tell us.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Denise, the Covid virus whether lab created or natural is REAL! Many died from it. Many MORE died from the quackcines, 😥 Dr. Mengele Fauci's Ouchies, and A.K.A. inoCULLations! YES! Bill Gates of Hell, Fauci, POTUS Trump A. K. A "The King of COVID-19" and ALL of their conspirators are "RATS of a TAIL. . .THAT should be in JAIL!" 🐭 WE ARE BEING SO LIED TO! 😡 You are RIGHT about outer space! HA! THEY never even made it to the moon! 😲

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denise ward's avatar

Yes people died but no more than they normally do. From my understanding, the death rate didn't rise practically at all. We do know that in fact the child death rate fell during the lockdowns, during the time they couldn't get their vaccines.

The people who died died of flu. The flu is not something that can be treated because it is the body's way of getting rid of toxins. We must let ourselves get the flu, it cleans out our body. The body is saying it is full of toxins, and then the moronic medical cartels go and inject the body with more! And even babies, who cannot give consent. It is sickening to the core. The whole thing about vaccines. I can't believe anyone cannot see through the dupe. Imagine if viruses are not real, or they're something else. We are not learning about our bodies or our world by continuing on this road of nonsense. Why are we arguing about all this? Why do the "authorities" play cat and mouse with information? Why are studies not done on whether say, turmeric heals ailments, including cancer, or other modes of healing? Why is it only pharmaceuticals that get prescribed? I mean, there are a whole lot of questions and we need to start asking them.

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CB's avatar
Sep 29Edited

Deaths didn't increase in 2020, but did once the quackcines/toxcines rolled out. Since then, there seem to have been widespread population declines. See Mark Crispin Miller's substack article, "Why isn't this the biggest story of them all? COVID "vaccination" has us (barely) living through a GLOBAL POPULATION CRASH." I understand that may be consistent with the virus being fake, but like others, I had a bad case in October 2022 despite never having the vaxx. Spike protein in both I'm told, though more in the vaxx.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

CB, your experience DOES prove that virus' and germs do exist! You might wish to take Swanson Vitamins' NAC (Cysteine, an amino acid) 600 mg. or 1000 mg. capsules. Since 2009 it has prevented me from having flu, Coronavirus', Covid, and only one cold for about $10.00 a bottle. Child: 1/Day Adult: 2/Day I would only take one 1000 mg. capsule a day before sleep. It naturally improves the whole body. 💪

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CB's avatar

Thanks, but I've been taking NAC for years, even before Covid. My Covid case was combined with a cardiac ablation, which probably made it worse than it would otherwise have been.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

CB, were you taking the Swanson brand? Many natural meds do not contain what they are supposed to in the U.S. 😡 This gov does not require that they do. ☹ I suspect that many brands are worthless to the consumer! 🙄 A number of years ago ALL of Walmart's brand were proven to be! 😲

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

I never took any quackzine and I never got sick from "covid. Not even a cold.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

denise, we can keep asking those questions 'til we are "blue in the face". . .but we WON'T get any truthful answers from BIG HARMA A.K.A. NOTHEALTHCARE!, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, AND THE MSM UNDER THE CHRISTIAN VATICAN IN ROME! ☹ Several VIRUSES can cause the flu in humans, another VIRUS can cause flu in animals. I had it many times as a child with pneumonia coming after it in 1957 when I was 9.The Jewish doctor told my mother I could be dead within the hour if I was not taken to the hospital. 😥 (She did not believe in going to doctors but also did not practice natural healing methods.) My lungs were 3/4 full. . .and I almost went to sleep! denise, my body was NOT cleansing! I was DIEING because I was infected with a pathogen, In the hospital I was given penicillin and was well in a week. denise, YOU REAL:LY SHOULD WAKE UP AND HAVE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT GERMS AND VIRUS'! 😲

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denise ward's avatar

If they are not going to give us truthful answers, what is stopping them from doing so? What kind of people are they? Why would you trust anyone who didn't give you information when you seek it? They must be hiding something. Hmm. I wonder what it is.

It's hard for me to make an outlook from anecdotes, but I believe you, just I don't know what the circumstances were. Perhaps you were exposed to some serious toxins. You don't know that the fever hadn't reached its peak and was would have gone down anyway without penicillin. Just like vaccines, they did not eradicate anything. All diseases were plummeting from the introduction of plumbing in the home and easier access to nutrition through development of modern progress. I guess you haven't done the research like I have. Dr Suzanne Humphries gives clear explanations and shows graphs and offers other evidence. I'm sorry, but we've all been duped. Best to ask questions because not doing so will make you blue in the face for sure, because ignorance means one can get very hoodwinked very easily. We are dealing with freaks, psychopaths, sadists.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

denise, I was exposed to a serious GERM or VIRUS most likely in my crowded public classrooms (baby boomer.) I don't remember any real fever. I wasn't burning up! In fact, I believe my body was beginning to "shut down." In 1957 there was a huge flu outbreak. One lady told me that her father had died then. 😥 denise, I guess you have never been very ill. . .and that may be why you believe and write what you do. Folks can "hoodwink" themselves very easily by believing in false theories. denise, I just have to say, from what I know and believe you are "WRONG, BABY, WRONG!" 😲

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Nope...we NEVER went to the moon. As it turns out...the earth is encircled not only with RADIATION BELTS that would stop any purported manned space missions....but the "ship" said to carry people there did not have enough storage for the water and oxygen necessary for such a venture. It was all baloney. We did buy it though...and believe it to this day, claiming we "lost the technology" to go into space.

.Bill Kaysing ...former aerospace "engineer" wrote a book about it....WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON.

No, we certainly did not. AND there is no such beast as a virus. All lies. But as you all know here on this substack....we love lies. And most think they "save" us.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Kathleen, I did not "buy" the moon landing when it was shown on TV in 1969. . .even told those there that I believed it was FAKED. I wonder do they still (STILL!) think I am loony? 😲 Was the Challenger accident also FAKED? I believed it at the time.

But you are "WRONG BABY WRONG!" when it come to pathogens like germs and virus'. ☹ THEY DO EXIST whether lab created or natural. HA! I wasn't felled by toxic cleansing or some other such nonsense! 😡

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

I do not hold an opinion. I was just rephrasing Dr. Mike Yeadon. I am sure, however, that there was no AIDS virus....

Can you tell why no one gets AIDS anymore?

Possibly because the AIDS virus does not exist---AND NEVER DID...????

Huge profit has been made "fighting the virus". IMHO...it is all about the money. Build your health with intelligent diet and exercise routines.

Oh and....use an enema bucket. Our bodies are not made to handle the very toxic stuff we consume these days.....I do not know the "whole" truth of the matter.

I know that "vaccines" in general have created a lot of harm....and I have not had one for decades....Be well, friend!

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Kathleen, earlier I had heard that some of the jabbed were now getting AIDS. Stands to reason. . .if Dr. Mengele Fauci was also involved with the AIDS virus back in the '80's. Many died then from AIDS, some well known. Now, sadly, ALL KINDS OF EVIL have come from Fauci's Ouchies in what I call, "The Genocidal Killing of the Willing!" 😥 I like you will not go near any quackcines a.k.a. inoCULLations!😡

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Phil Davis's avatar

Yeah the Earth is flat, and no one went to the moon. We've heard it before. Except we have electronic microscopes.

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denise ward's avatar

PS: we didn't go to the moon, silly. Oh boy, so many are going to have egg on their face. I can't believe there is anyone who still believes that. The earth can be other things besides flat or round.

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Phil Davis's avatar

I'd love to tell you about the plethora of moon landing images from numerous visits by other countries as they orbited the moon, oops, that would mean the moon is round, sorry, as they flew by, but unfortunately, you don't believe in photography either, the camera might steal your soul, or something, so what's the use?

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denise ward's avatar

What did you say that refutes my assertion? Ok we've got microscopes. Do we not record everything too? Then show me where it's been recorded that viruses have been identified or isolated.

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denise ward's avatar

Still not an answer. What's the matter, don't you have a case you can stand by?

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Phil Davis's avatar

Why would I engage with you? My only interest is trolling an idiot. I've had these useless debates before, and I found myself living in the dark ages. Why go there? It's hard to fathom the stubbornness of ignorance. This means that you and your kind are living in the realm of stupidity; you have no interest in understanding science. My God, I can't imagine having a discussion of general relativity, let alone the wave function of an electron, or a discussion of Maxwell's Equations that are the basis for the device you're using to write your dribble. Quantum Mechanics? Haha, forget about it, you would never accept any scientific reflections on that subject. Yet your modern life is dependent on this phenomenon.

No, I just wanted to give you shit and have zero interest in educating you, because that would be impossible. I am humbly ashamed of the human race many times for many reasons, but to think people like you wantonly desire to live in ignorance is one of the greatest mysteries to me.

Oh, and one prediction: you will now argue that since I won't answer your question, you are the victor in this little discussion. And that's okay, I don't mind. If this makes you happy, I'm glad I could be of service.

One more Larson

https://aphelis.net/aphelis-un-monde-sans-difference/

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Denise, I am into health and nutrition. I eat more carefully than almost anyone in the world.. I have gone 20 years without a sniffle, until i ate a wrong food....but my daughter and i were hit by "something" within hours of each other....which put me in bed for 18 hours and my daughter was sick for two weeks. How would you explain this?

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Ludmila Lavrova's avatar

It was the greatest terrorist attack on humanity with the participation of the heads of government of all countries.

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John Haupt's avatar

And yet nobody is ever held accountable. It’s astonishing!

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James Bryson's avatar

Deepest appreciation for Senator Paul’s persistence and integrity.

Put the Dwarf-Psychopath-criminal in prison.

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Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Thank you

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David Kukkee's avatar

I have ordered this book John Leake, based upon two essential reasons. #1 reason is that you heartily endorse the book, and you've earned your cred. Your advice carries weight. The #2 reason is that the honorable Rand Paul suffered indignities at the hands of the very miscreants (I expect will be) indicted in the book, and I would enjoy some retro on the subject, particularly in bringing Mr. Science Personified into the bright unforgiving light of the truth. Thanks so much for recommending this book... I am salivating at the prospect of setting aside the time to read it non-stop, and telling all my friends and enemies about it. I would also like to thank Rand Paul for his intrepid battle... I agree that he should be recognized for his stalwart patriotism, honesty, and outstanding courage in the face of the enemy.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

I read it and recommend it highly! Scholarly but readable with references backing everything up....

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David Kukkee's avatar

Thank you Kathleen... somehow I'm not surprised that you have outpaced me in reading... again. I appreciate your recommendation. I hope you are well. God bless you.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Thanks, David....I praise my Creator, as I know you do and I give thanks daily that in THIS BLESSED COUNTRY...we can read and listen to folks like Dr. McCullough and numerous other "minority opinions." I believe that in some countries "vaccines" were mandated and enforced...killing millions. I hope these reports were not true....

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

I just ordered it too. At the moment, I am reading, "Vaccines, Amen", by Aaron Siri. I highly recommend it. Like Carolyn Kostopoulos, I too have a sizable library of covid-related books - each one damning in its own unique telling of what has been allowed to happen (both the virus & the insufficiently & poorly tested genetic injections, referred to as "vaccines"). Many individuals & governments need to be brought to justice for this monumental travesty.

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David Kukkee's avatar

Nice to be on the same page with you Debra. The eugenicists are having trouble sleeping these days, thanks to these brave authors. God bless you.

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

God bless you too, David.

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Proberta's avatar

But THERE NEVER WAS A VIRUS!

The Crown of England LOST a court case in Canada that ENDED MANDATES in Canada because this young man was charged with attending a gathering of more than ten people during lockdown. He won his case because THE CROWN COULD NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THERE EVER WAS A SARS COV2 VIRUS.

https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

What made people sick, and IS making people sick is Radiation Poisoning.

From the 40,000 satellites (FORTY THOUSAND) launched to complete the 5(G) grid, that are now beaming 5(G) radiation down on us continually. Which is why people all over the world are getting sick, their hair is thinning, they look ten years older, they're having dental problems, their teeth are turning yellow. Or they're dying.

Radiation poisoning attacks the weakest system in a person's body first. For most people that's the gut or heart, but for so many now its the lungs because of the Chemtrailing.

Please build up your immune system, that's our best defense against radiation poisoning. And find out where the nearest 5(G) tower is to you, if you are now chronically sick, repeatedly sick, or not fully recovering. Mitigate your environment and build your immune system.

Remember, the first place they activated the 5(G) grid was Woohan China!

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

huge problem....and we are ignoring it.

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Dave Campbell's avatar

It always confounded me why the Republican party let him swing in the breeze all by himself over this issue. He is relentless, alone and RIGHT!

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