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John Leake's avatar

Oh, I forget, he is untouchable, as are treasonous members of Congress. The US is such a hopelessly corrupt place that our only hope is to take out foreigners in in Latin America. Now I understand!

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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TiredCitizen's avatar

It isn't going to happen. Members of the globalists were on the freaking inaugural platform with him in January as he was being sworn in. Look up how he has strengthened the AI surveillance capability of companies like Planatir and others through his EOs. Folks, stop wishing upon the Trump star. We tried to warn you. You wouldn't listen.

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Mark Leone's avatar

Here is a list of Foreign Regime Changes Brought About By US Presidents without the Approval of Congress. Can you explain why it's not special pleading to say that now that Trump does it, it must be stopped?

1893 | Hawaii | Benjamin Harrison | US-backed overthrow of Queen Liliʻuokalani, leading to annexation.

1903 | Panama (from Colombia) | Theodore Roosevelt | Supported Panamanian independence to secure canal rights.

1903–1925 | Honduras | Theodore Roosevelt et al. | Multiple interventions supporting coups and regimes.

1906–1909 | Cuba | Theodore Roosevelt | Occupation and installation of a new government under the Platt Amendment.

1909–1933 | Nicaragua | William H. Taft et al. | Interventions leading to the installation of the Somoza family.

1913 | Mexico | Woodrow Wilson | Support for coup against Francisco Madero, installing Victoriano Huerta.

1915–1934 | Haiti | Woodrow Wilson | Occupation and imposition of a new constitution.

1916–1924 | Dominican Republic | Woodrow Wilson | Marine occupation and installation of US personnel in government.

1948 | Costa Rica | Harry S. Truman | Support for opposition in civil war, leading to José Figueres Ferrer’s rule.

1949 | Syria | Harry S. Truman | CIA-backed coup installing Husni al-Za'im.

1952 | Egypt | Harry S. Truman / Dwight D. Eisenhower | CIA support for the Free Officers Movement overthrowing the monarchy.

1953 | Iran | Dwight D. Eisenhower | Operation Ajax: CIA-orchestrated coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh.

1954 | Guatemala | Dwight D. Eisenhower | Operation PBSuccess: CIA-backed coup against Jacobo Árbenz.

1960–1965 | Congo | Dwight D. Eisenhower et al. | CIA involvement in the assassination of Patrice Lumumba and support for Mobutu.

1963 | South Vietnam | John F. Kennedy | Authorized coup against Ngo Dinh Diem.

1963 | Iraq | John F. Kennedy | CIA support for Ba'athist coup against Abdul Karim Qasim.

1964 | Brazil | Lyndon B. Johnson | CIA support for military coup against João Goulart.

1965 | Dominican Republic | Lyndon B. Johnson | Military intervention to prevent leftist takeover, leading to a new government.

1965 | Indonesia | Lyndon B. Johnson | CIA facilitation of anti-communist purges leading to Suharto's rise.

1970 | Cambodia | Richard Nixon | Support for coup against Norodom Sihanouk, installing Lon Nol.

1971 | Bolivia | Richard Nixon | CIA support for Hugo Banzer's coup against Juan José Torres.

1973 | Chile | Richard Nixon | CIA-backed coup against Salvador Allende, installing Augusto Pinochet.

1974–1991 | Ethiopia | Gerald Ford et al. | Support for rebels against the Derg, leading to its fall.

1975–1991 | Angola | Gerald Ford et al. | CIA support for UNITA against MPLA.

1976 | Argentina | Gerald Ford | Endorsement and CIA support for coup against Isabel Perón.

1979–1992 | Afghanistan | Jimmy Carter / Ronald Reagan | Operation Cyclone: CIA arming mujahideen, leading to regime collapse.

1981–1982 | Chad | Ronald Reagan | CIA training and support for Hissène Habré's takeover.

1981–1990 | Nicaragua | Ronald Reagan / George H.W. Bush | Support for Contras leading to Sandinista electoral defeat.

1983 | Grenada | Ronald Reagan | Operation Urgent Fury: Invasion overthrowing the Marxist government.

1989 | Panama | George H.W. Bush | Operation Just Cause: Invasion removing Manuel Noriega.

1991 | Haiti | George H.W. Bush | Initial support for coup against Jean-Bertrand Aristide (later reversed).

1996–1997 | Zaire (Congo) | Bill Clinton | Support for AFDL rebels overthrowing Mobutu Sese Seko.

2000 | Yugoslavia | Bill Clinton | CIA funding for opposition leading to the ouster of Slobodan Milošević.

2003–2006 | Somalia | George W. Bush | CIA funding warlords and support for Ethiopian invasion.

2004 | Haiti | George W. Bush | Support for removal of Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

2011 | Libya | Barack Obama | NATO intervention leading to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi.

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John Leake's avatar

See "War is a Racket" by Marine Corps general Smedley Butler. I don't approve the racketeering of the past either.

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Linda wells's avatar

I read "war as a racket", good book---but I would like to point out that when the constitution was written, it was not a worldwide communist movement to bring America down – – – if they had been able to predict that this would happen, I'm sure they would've put something into the constitution---oh, wait a minute! They did, it's called the MONROE DOCTRINE. Now the question arises, do all interventions fit the intention of the Monroe Doctrine". The answer is NO.

We, the public, have to discern if the intervention was truly to protect America due to a communist or drug cartel buildup with the intent of bringing down America.

In the Venezuelan case, most likely yes. Chinese and Russian involvement in Venezuela (with the intent to overthrow America) has been known and documented for years. The fact that the current president is a criminal, leads a drug ring, and stole the election from the rightful winner----is good cause for America to arrest him and try him in court!

President Trump said this was not a military action, but a police action to bring a criminal to justice. No war was declared---if Trump is smart, he will allow the Venezuelan people to elect their own president. My understanding is there are several million of them who would like to return to Venezuela, if it can be established as a free, justice oriented country.

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John Leake's avatar

Bonaparte was bringing all of Europe down at that time and the US didn't get involved.

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Maha's avatar

From 1803 to 1815, the US didn't get involved with Europe to any great extent, John. The Napoleonic Wars caused trade issues that impacted the US. Besides, our entire army consisted of 30,000 troops, while the Navy was about 10,000. The US could not afford to be involved with, or against Napoleon. The French Imperial Army supported over two million men.

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John Leake's avatar

Our army was small by design so that the executive wouldn't be tempted to send it abroad.

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Maha's avatar
2dEdited

Well, played. I don't buy it, John, but in case you're on the level, from what trusted historical reference did you acquire that information?

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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Mark Leone's avatar

Fair enough, John. But my point is that for whatever reason, our government is not functioning in the modern world the way the founders prescribed. While I generally favor a strict constructionist interpretation of the Constitution, insisting on a sort of "unilateral disarmament" as a way of addressing the disconnect could have some very bad practical effects.

The fact that our Congress is almost entirely non-functional now seems to me a much more pressing problem. If we had a functioning Congress, then a work to rule approach for the chief executive would probably be beneficial. As things stand, applying restrictions to the president would have the effect of removing the US from any effective engagement in a world where our adversaries are subject to no such restraints, and a globalist power structure has been steadily tightening its death grip.

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tim s's avatar

Let's see the old adage: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Is supplanted by many wrongs and increasing power / authority make it right? Fundamental morality is not able to co-exist with an "ends justify the means" rationality proposition.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Well said, Mark.

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Rachel's avatar

Mark, it is not possible to reform a system where every politician is bribed.

I cannot even address giving Trump extraordinary powers right now... and I voted for him. A vote I deeply, deeply regret after the kidnapping of Maduro. I truly hope I never vote again, as voting legitimizes this system where politicians have absolutely no obligation to their constituents.

Unless, that is, you want the government to continue stealing your tax dollars to launder it through the MIC and cause innumerable deaths here and abroad with their policies? I doubt that.

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Elwood R. Bernat's avatar

Nice.

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Andrew Watkinson's avatar

John I love your writing and read most things you put out there including the book on vaccines. I agree with you on most things but not on this one. This is a very complex issue. Of Course Smedley Butler was wise about the reasons for our wars. Other things can be true at the same time. I believe the Venezuela affair is similar to the Cuba missile crisis. On the current trajectory the influence of China and other enemies will surround us. Should we just give up the Panama Canal that we built? Should we allow China to infiltrate Mexico further than it already has? How about Texas, Arizona and New Mexico? Should we allow Chinese influence and Muslim brotherhood take these states over? I think the Monroe Doctrine is still a thing even though our deep state is still evil at the same time. Two things can be true at once. This is not as black and white as you see it. I suggest watching the recent podcast by Jesus Enrique Iglesias who is an intelligent Venezuelan living abroad in Europe. He will give you another perspective maybe you haven't considered.

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Andrew Watkinson's avatar

Correction. His last name is Rosas and his YouTube is @thebodylanguageguy

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Linda wells's avatar

Wow, great work to be able to produce a list like this! Thank you. Each one needs to be looked at carefully to see if it falls within the parameters of the Monroe doctrine. Most of them, probably not. You have to remember that George Bush was a globalist, and he had other motives. Ronald Reagan was not a globalist, but he was controlled by the council of foreign relations, who placed a lot of their people as his appointee on the White House staff. Reagan had enemies within the White House, the same as President Trump had.

Trump is trying to preserve America and not allow it to be taken over by communist, Muslims, or Nazis. That means to preserve and protect the constitution. Including the Monroe doctrine.

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Mark Leone's avatar

I should have mentioned that the list was compiled by a friend of mine. He's a friend IRL, but he posted it in a private Facebook group, so there was no way to link to it.

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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TiredCitizen's avatar

We got your point three posts ago. Please don't keep posting again and again the same thing.

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Martix's avatar

You can do as you like, too. Got me? If you´re tired sleep more.

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William DeCat's avatar

Thanks for the list!

Already posted this comment... but still do not see anyone talking about ** in this list:

"Appreciate this (John's post) from a "Perfect World" perspective... but we MUST live in reality and in that way; I must admit some disappointment here - Considering the balance of factors we know:

-China/Russia/Hunter&Joe Biden-Kerry*ChrisHeinz Traitors in business w/China via Bohai Capital and ALL after ENERGY in Ukraine...

-Russia/China+ doing the same in Venezuela.

-Maduro Drug Lord - doing nothing to stem drug running.

-U.S. prior repetitions of this outlined by others; but all that's needed is Noriega....

-Sending Venezuelan immigrants fleeing across the GLOBE and

-Particularly Criminals and their worst exports to the U.S.

** -(Maduro was) NOW threatening war/seizure of (Venezuela Neighbor) Guyana / Essequibo; and the OIL reserves There.

-While NEVER responding to International laws about OIL / Assets they already seized.

+The messages it sends to so many; particularly after Biden's disastrous Afghan exit...

+Is there anything to be gained from Maduro/Venezuela election fraud; where Smartmatic and Dominion have such nefarious ties with FAILED Election integrity; and the Truth of our own elections?

-Etc.

On balance so far, the positives seem to outweigh the negatives.

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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Elwood R. Bernat's avatar

Excellent work and reply. Move to the head of the class.

These ninnies and contrary whiners will never be satisfied until America is on the brink of overthrow by enemies within and abroad “foreign and domestic” as it was by using the uniparty under the Democrat banner to go global and voteless, believing their liberal platitudes of “can’t we all just be friends” fantasy’s.

Everything John said is unfounded, ironically quoting the Founders waxing poetic. He is an intelligent, well schooled “societal” champion of gentlemen that has actually fired weapons, and knows some who were among elite soldiers that he conferred with thinking it proves him the conservative patriot. They love boasting about their lineage. Very aristocrat- ish. John is among the people who have been so tainted by past tyrants they finally become “concerned” in their liberal way, push to vote in men of conviction, then immediately they deny there are enemies. Hiding behind their namesake liberty, we all know liberals like John, the Mises Institute, Rand Paul, uniparty Libertarians and Democrats love their liberty and rights, so many rights, they just don’t like paying for it in real time. And when Patriots (3-30%) step up to do so they blame the price they have to pay on others, immediately pulling their hair out in all their tongue in cheek virtue signaling glory, when the truth is they, like all liberal women, really don’t know what they want until “the boot hit their neck”. Then they see clearly that yes, we must defend and demand the security we deserve. But it will not happen to them because their fake American hubris hiding behind their special “liberty” has their back.

In short, they cry crocodile tears for soldier’s they think are fools, but then they can wax poetic about them to go after their new villain. Never satisfied, that’s why liberals are so progressive, they are perpetually restless, without conviction, but wanting to be truly conservative.

I’m a first year Boomer and Nam infantry combat veteran. John is a post Boomer. Perhaps the worst of the hate America liberals in America because they were fed the worst of the 1960’s and 70’s media, Hollywood, and academia lies from the communist backed “anti war movement” that hijacked and inverted the original legitimate protest’s against a Congress in disarray. That happened because the deep State operators working with Communist in all three entities above talked Democrat President (by default) Johnson into ramping up the war to blame the Executive Branch and perpetually shame American defense and anyone in uniform service to America. Then, by using the “anti war movement” directly pointed at “bad” America and bad military, and bad murder’s in uniform service tho America. The elites all knew China was the big dog in Vietnam with Russian logistics and armament and others and that with academia and corporate “research and development” that war was not going to be stopped by protestors. What it did was prevent the military from ending the war asap, with the fewest collateral casualties as possible. So the “anti war protests were intended to create strife, chaos, hate America and anyone in uniform service and extents the war to shame America.

I know that is not what you thought or were told or read somewhere parroted from one to another. They/Them vowed to march through the institutions, and indeed they did. The 1960’s riots were fun, lots of drugs and free love (Roe v Wade, 1973), Jody’s, hippies. By the 1990’s the uniparty made their old friend’s China and Vietnam “besties”, conjured up a deep system of money laundering webs to perpetually control the Executive Branch by putting in people in that were complicit when they could, using the intelligence apparatus and computer models, a burgeoning bureaucracy and methodologies that could blackmail, imply wrongdoing, malicious slander, indictments, bankrupt, slander, coup, or assassinate. It’s not like they don’t have a clear record with that.

So what should we do John? Let China control the Canal, China and Russian subs all over Greenland and South America. Their Communist/islamist alliance is not shocking since it is time immortal. We have an illegal criminal/terrorist very large element throughout America speaking Islamic replacement of the Saturday and Sunday people, to start.

What would you do John. I mean besides wax historic poetry and highlight one of the more liberal Founders.

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I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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Nancy Parsons's avatar

Yours is the best list of horrid US foreign policy I've ever seen, Mark. You are very correct that raising the cry of "Orange Man Bad," is deeply inconsistent at this point. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the actions this list details any less catastrophic or unconstitutional.

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Mark Leone's avatar

Agreed. FWIW, I think Trump's direct, overt approach is a great improvement over the way we've previously operated. It's no small matter that he disbanded USAID as pretty much the first major action after being inaugurated. It's not just that previous actions were covert and disingenuous, but the fomenting of color revolutions is just evil. Unfortunately, we didn't fully realize this until the US deep state turned the weapon on its own people.

Distorting public discourse with slimy, clandestine operations and destabilizing a society as a deliberate policy, executed for effect, is execrable in its own right and something that has brought shame to our nation in the eyes of the entire world.

Trump has stated explicitly what he was doing and why. He sent the helicopters, grabbed the dictator, and said, "we have him in custody." He gave Iran advance warning to get their people out, bombed the nuclear sites, and brought the planes home. It's fair game to oppose these moves, but at least they're of an entirely different character from the way we've operated previously, and a great improvement IMO.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

USAID was just absorbed by the State Department. Where did the funding go? Oh, wait. It is all still there.

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Mark Leone's avatar

Rubio took over USAID, and he seemed to know exactly what the problem was and was committed to stopping it. The money is still there? Really? And you know this how?

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Where did it go? The State DEPARTMENT absorbed USAID. He was committed to stopping it? How? Did it?

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

My liberal daughter and I just had a phone conversation about Trumpie and the Venezualan "ILLEGAL!!" war. . . ha!

I held my tongue. I love it when I see vindication. Great assembly of facts Mark.

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Sergie's avatar

You forgot all the Clinton-Obama Soros operations in the ex-USSR, starting from Moscow in 1991-93 and ending with Kiev in 2014 - so far. Otherwise, great list, thank you!

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Maha's avatar

Thank you, Mark, I was going to post the list, but you added the Hawaiian 1893 overthrow, which I had not included.

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Brien's avatar

The most likely outcome in Venezuela, absent massive US intervention, is that Venezuelans will end up, sooner rather than later, with another Cartel of the Sun boss who is the defacto ruler of the country. Anyone can arrive at this conclusion given a sense of history and a bit of logic. This outcome is not guaranteed, it is simply the most likely outcome. But what of massive US intervention to prevent it. There are many thousands of cartel and criminal gang members spread across Venezuela, a large country. They are well armed and well funded. The Chinese, Russians and Iranians are bound to support and fund the resistance. To me this smells like another Iraq or Afghanistan given the prospect of the US getting as involved as President Trump indicated right after Maduro was taken. If it turns out to be a police action and nothing more, then the above stated outcome comes much closer to being guaranteed. Given that the likelihood that Maduro’s replacement will be as bad or perhaps even worse than Maduro, this operation begs a serious question mark : What will we have gained from it?

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Mark Leone's avatar

Your pessimism strikes me as somewhat Malthusian. Trump does not operate as everyone who came before operated. We see over an over again that problems taken to be intractable were only intractable because we were held captive to approaches that had little chance of succeeding.

From the USAID shutdown to tariffs to Iran to immigration enforcement to DEI entrenchment in government and institutions to fraud and waste cleanup, and probably many other things I'm not thinking about right now, Trump has taken a path different from what everyone said he had to take, and the results have largely discredited all the experts and their predictions. I see no reason to assume that Venezuela will be an exception to this, and that all the black-pill predictions turn out to be correct.

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Brien's avatar

I hope you’re right. Time will tell

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Aaron Ferguson's avatar

Fingers crossed

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

It is erroneous to believe past crime(s) committed without indictment now gives license to continue to commit crime.

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Mark Leone's avatar

It's a category mistake to bring up "crime" when we're discussing the constitutionality of executive actions. Constitutional scholars such as Jonathan Turley have argued that Trump's action in Venezuela was constitutional. They could be wrong, of course, but your argument assumes they are, rather than arguing the point.

Whatever side we end up on, I think it's clear that it's not a cut and dried issue, as if someone murdered or robbed someone, and I'm saying it's OK because other murderers weren't prosecuted. It's a judgment call, made more uncertain by the fact that the system itself has been corrupted and captured, so that there has been a one-way ratchet effect. Bad actors at home and abroad continue to work their ill effects, and we're supposed to apply strict scruples and let the system continue to spin out of control?

I would not argue for such forbearance if it were a cut and dried matter, but I have no problem arguing for a liberal interpretation of the Constitution when it is being abjectly flouted by the other side. I presume you and others here are arguing against the operation on sound principles with integrity, but let's not fool ourselves that this opposition would have any traction at all if not for the deranged opposition to Trump. That's the point of the list I posted. That's part of the one-way ratchet I mentioned. Enemies of freedom do as they please, and the media is silent. But they expect us to apply a strict standard in evaluating any actions they don't approve of.

For a cogent exposition of this idea, see this bad-cattitude post: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/when-the-system-becomes-the-enemy

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Linda wells's avatar

Glad to see that someone else recognizes that the gigantic bureaucratic system in Washington DC that has been built up over the last 75 years, has actually been running the government. Congress or the president had very little power to change the bureaucracy, until Trump was elected. He called in Elon Musk to help bring justice to the bureaucracy, who in turn exposed The corrupted money being sent to USAID. Bureaucracy is the BEAST.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

The Constitution is law. Violations of law can be either civil or criminal. Executive actions not in pursuance of the Constitution I’d expect to be considered as criminal and subject to impeachment under the required category of “high crime(s).”

Trump would like us all to believe the military actions actions against Venezuela was simply to assist our DOJ in the arrest of Maduro and his wife for alleged crimes committed in violation of United States’ laws. We also all expected to trust that without the leadership of Maduro Venezuela will fall in line with United States interests in the Western Hemisphere. Are we really that naive? As many, including Trump, have pointed out Venezuela has cozied up with China, Russia, Mexico, Columbia and Iran. If that’s the actual situation and as such deemed a dire threat to United States’ interests, why can’t Trump appeal to Congress, the representatives of United States citizens for a declaration of war against Venezuela? Why is it necessary to side step around the requirements of our Constitution? If the reason is TDS, then we have a problem larger than the threat imposed by Venezuela; the enemy is within.

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Mark Leone's avatar

Of course the Constitution is law. You could even say it's more important than statutory law, because it constrains the government, rather than individual people.

However, it is not immediately obvious whether a particular action of a government violates the Constitution. That's why we have appellate courts, and almost exclusively why we have the Supreme Court. Neither of those courts has ruled on Trump's action, nor have they ruled, to the best of my knowledge, on any of the previous actions that I listed.

In fact, since precedent is an important aspect of constitutional law, one could argue, somewhat loosely I admit, that the fact that the people and the government of this nation have not prevented any of this long list of actions that I listed, and there has been relatively little protest or opposition to them by the American people, that you're really on shaky ground arguing as a statement of fact that Trump violated the Constitution.

Again, I'm not foreclosing that possibility entirely. I don't have the right to do that, and neither do you. But neither is it accurate to state flatly that Trump committed a crime. Even in a case where five justices declare something to be unconstitutional and that declaration becomes the law of the land, up to four justices may disagree, illustrating again that it is not a straightforward determination to say what constitutes a violation of the Constitution.

That's the entire issue In my response to you. You made an argument about one crime not being justified by a previous one, and I'm saying that there is simply no basis for arguing that. In the case of constitutional law, the fact that there have been so many cases where the executive acted in like manner to what Trump has done in Venezuela, it actually strengthens the argument that what he did was legally justified.

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

Glenn Beck sums up exactly the rationale for going in and getting Maduro.

Soros gets paid big money to create chaos for whatever regime wants it. He has been a CIA / deep state cutout for a very long time. Mike Benz has the receipts on this. Soros and other globalists, the same ones who are stealing the US blind, funded the stolen elections for Maduro. Maduro hosted Antifa conferences among all sorts of other dirty, anti-American business. Maduro hides behind the phony "head of state" title to fool people just like John Leake.

Trump wipes out Maduro and will take out the new prez, too, if she is stupid enough to pick up where Maduro and Soros left off. This is the very definition of America first. Constitutional illiterates live in a delusion whereby any unilateral executive decision to use force is illegal. The Constitution makes it very, very clear that the POTUS has ALL of the authority he needs to protect the country from enemies within and without. Our congress is completely compromised and bought off. The notion that congress is free to take over or destroy the country using external proxies and the President is powerless to stop it is dangerous and completely counter to the very Constitution they think they are defending.

These Constitutional purists expect everyone to die on their cross. No. Not gonna happen on DJT's watch.

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John Leake's avatar

Why not just arrest Soros?

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

Indeed. And perhaps forthcoming. Soros is deeply connected to the US deep state and has been for a very long time. If he is still in that position by the end of Trump's presidency I will be surprised.

However, Soros is not in control of VZ soldiers, weapons and resources the way Maduro is. Selling oil to China after kicking out ConocoPhilips and stealing their equipment, running drugs into America and allowing a buildup of foreign military assets a la the Cuban missile crisis is a recipe for getting taken out.

A bit of moving the goalposts, though, John.

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peter tomkinson's avatar

You posit an exclusively American perspective as if it is a True Fact. It is though only from that view.

Non Americans have every reason to see it quite the opposite. Exceptualism is precisely that, a claim to be superior whatever the evidence and it tends to justify what ever the exception team choose it to. That's all.

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

I do not care what non-Americans think. It is America that is under assault from inside and from international globalists who all want global tyranny and international communism / fascism. Those people do not care about rules and neither do I when it comes to fighting them because the stakes are life and death. Every other country with the exception of America, China and Russia have fallen to woke ideology and only one of those three still has any semblance of free speech (despite what Putin might say). The UK has fallen. Canada has fallen. Germany is openly killing AFD candidates and will likely split into east and west again. Australia has fallen. So, get out of here with your nonsense about American perspective. If you had any sense you would understand that if America does not fight back and win you will have zero allies in the world (if you are even an ally at this point).

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Yup...Canada and Australia are just huge pits of corruption run by scum ball wannabe dictators. I don't know what is going on in China and Russia...They have been totally owned by criminals for a long time-- is my guess. Canada has the largest border with the United States...and this will become a problem in the future--at least that is my guess...

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Marie's avatar

Don't forget China buying up land around our US military bases, India sending huge numbers of educated workers undercutting our new (and old) grads who can't find jobs, illegals driving big rigs who can't read road signs, all the infiltration that is going on needs to be stopped.

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peter tomkinson's avatar

Same arguments every selfish nationalist uses to justify all manner of butchery. But you are not seeing the bigger picture and looking through the lens of mainstream media propaganda. The globalists are using the U"S as their technology centre, their military force and the power of the Petro-dollar and its economic influence to power their tyranical takeover of the US along with the rest of the world.

ALL the people of the world are at war with the globalists including you though so long as we look through nationalist lenses we blind ourselves to this reality. Population reduction occurs all over and digital control systems are being rollout all over while money control will with a technical jail enslave us all. They are losing though so hang on tight.

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Linda wells's avatar

As I recall, when Obama was president, he supported Venezuela in nationalizing the oil, but he allowed George Soros to have control and "oversee rights" in the operation of the oil industry. Obama is a socialist in a communist, no question. George sorrows, the same.

This would be a very good time to reward a whistleblower to come forward with substantial information and evidence proving that George Soros has worked with the deep state to overthrow several countries, not just America, and not just Venezuela. If anyone needs to be prosecuted in the world----it's George Soros!!!!

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Marie's avatar

Isn't he getting really old, soon to be gone anyway?

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Leslie Sacha's avatar

He has a son who is happy to carry on.

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Linda wells's avatar

It doesn't matter how old he is, he's passed his ideology and legacy onto his two sons who were carrying out his wishes – – – it is very important that he have a very public and a very transparent trial so that the people of this nation no exactly The lying in the manipulations in the misrepresentations he has been behind to try to turn public opinion against both the constitution and against President Trump(Or any president that opposes a one world government through the United Nations)----Which, by the way, communist China has totally taken over.

We need to repossess the land under the United Nations and kick them out of the US---Permanently! Better yet, I understand they have some kind of a rental lease. Find a legal way to terminate their lease, then kick them out. The Rockefeller family donated that land to the government so that the United Nations could have a permanent home.

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B Lowrance's avatar

Wouldn’t that be nice and what appears to be behind it all! I have suspicions there are a lot more than just Soros behind the curtain.

I hear where you are coming from John. This kind of interpretation of the Constitution can totally back fire if the left was leading this country. Meaning Trump may have appeared to have done the right thing in the eyes of those who voted for him. However, was it constitutional? And if the left were leading this country and were to do something similar, that we didn’t agree with then would we shout out that it goes against our constitution? Can’t have it both ways.

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Linda wells's avatar

It was constitutional. He did it under the Monroe Doctrine--He called it a police action, it was not a military action. There is a difference. We are not conquering Venezuela, we are establishing justice and honest elections. And arresting the drug cartels.

The whole world is watching. Trump knows he's on trial. As our justice department tries to bring these people to trial, they will be challenged on every point, it may take years to crawl through the courts----But truth and justice will WIN!! Remember: The globalists do not want Trump to survive!! He is working against their one world government global agenda!!

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Linda wells's avatar

The Monroe doctrine is in the constitution for a reason. It gives authority to do police actions against countries that are plotting to infiltrate and bring this country down. There is Ample evidence that the president and vice president of Venezuela were working with the Russians the Chinese in a worldwide communist movement to infiltrate the US.

A whistleblower has just come forward stating that members of Congress have been on Venezuela payroll. Americans are waiting for evidence to come forth, and for prosecutions of the guilty Congress people.

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peter tomkinson's avatar

Left or Right? Same thing from different viewpoints and totally irrelevant to what is actually happening in the world.

Take a broader view and see the big picture and Left/Right become the playground of those who cannot see more than whats presented to them.

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Maha's avatar

Good idea. Why not?

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URsomoney's avatar

We have to realize that we don’t & won’t know what this is all about even if there is excellent speculation about some of the facets. Our country has not been run by “a government that is for the people by the people” since almost right after its inception. The powers that be/money changers that run the governments of almost all countries have less control of the narratives due to the decentralization of information yet they continue with their plans because they can. They could give a shit about mankind (injecting poison into people across the globe proved that)

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Nancy Parsons's avatar

Amen! And lift the sanctions so Venezuela can operate freely in the Western economy. Much cheaper and less risky.

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RoseMartyn's avatar

That would be too simple, and grander agendas could not sold to taxpayers….but I suspect you know that John

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LJ's avatar

So let’s just say you are right? What John is illuminating here is that one President may use powers to accomplish good, while another will use his or her powers for evil. So the justification I feel you are citing (no don’t get mad, actually respond, I’m an adult, if you have good reasoning I will listen), is that “might makes right”.

On one point I will heartily agree with you, Congress is bought and paid for. Their corruption is legion. No argument at all!

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

Yes, might makes right. It always has. Power is what you can project, not what you can theorize about. The left projected power into the streets with its George Floyd riots. It projects power in the media every day by lying, leaking information using inside sources (spies / traitors) and running sophisticated psyops using paid social media influencers.

People do not want to admit that you cannot beat cheaters without cheating a little yourself, if we've even seen any cheating from the current administration at all, anyway. We are playing for the ultimate stakes. China has absolutely zero morality that the West understands. We try to deal with China as though they are simply of some politically different mindset. This is like trying to deal with Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer as rational people. The CCP does not view theft as immoral. They do not look at westerners as fellow human beings to be negotiated with honestly. These are wolves that have been let in the hen house and are killing our agriculture (literally with imported pathogens), stealing all of our intellectual property (ask John Leake if it is okay for me to make a copy of his books, put my name on them and sell them for profit), acquiring land all over the country next to military bases and on and on and on. These are the people that Maduro was making deals with? Fuck that. Absolutely not. The friend of my enemy is my enemy.

The time for dealing with Constitutional crisis has long past. The USA has a fatal flaw that someone figured out - corrupting the judiciary - and got Barry Santoro into office to exploit it. The protectors of the Constitution that people like Mr. Leake like to imagine exist are almost wiped out save three SCOTUS judges. Trump is way nicer that I would be in dealing with all of this treason. I would have a strike team up and running on the opposition soldiers that are operating behind enemy lines and from the bench. Trump think he is going to get there through deals and negotiation. That might work if he had a decade. He doesn't.

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LJ's avatar

If you truly subscribe to this you descend to their level. Ie you descend into the morality of “The ends justify the means”. And thereby you justify all sorts of immoral behavior in order to achieve the end you want.

But then I believe in a Just and Righteous God who will mete Justice out. The ultimate truth is that Justice already came in the form of the Cross. And will never fully come on this earth in men’s hearts and minds until Christ has transformed your heart.

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andy's avatar

MMR (might makes right) is tattooed into the forehead & forebrain of every autistic bully & pulpiteer & congregant there ever was.

At most & best right might makes right. But there are no guarantees.

“Power is not revealed by striking hard or often, but by striking true.”

Not by Skid(ding)more hard or often, either.

Ken McElroy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy

Clemens, another Missourian - but unvaccinated:

https://warprayer.org/

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you, Trump, for your courage!

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Linda wells's avatar

We need to get red, prosecute, all corrupt members of Congress who are on the payroll of either the communist, or other nations!!

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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andy's avatar

It didn't happen on John Adam's watch, either.

“Constitution,” & all those little men behind the curtain, was a necessary step in the road -- "& now it's legal" -- to Ozymandias empire.

First at home, then abroad.

Localized tumors are nation states, & those take turns at metastasis.

"There is a great deal of ruin in a nation" but the runes are stone-hard & target-slung, every time:

Too many people can’t/won’t govern themselves, & their immediate surroundings, so people — the same sort of people — govern not themselves & not the too many that govern themselves not.

Nation states are the first & worst TBTF because too many people are TLTS (too little to succeed).

But if the pecking order midgets can just steal some Orinoco Flow, they’ll get to six feet & self-sufficient solid walls of sound sure.

Of Enyans & onions & layers … & layers … & layers … of battery hens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBwR-qc8h6o

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SJ1rlmeIzSg

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Jason's avatar

Even as Canadians, it’s difficult not to feel a warm, vicarious pride in all the winning our American neighbours managed to rack up—watching, from a safe distance, as President Trump, acting conspicuously in alignment with Israeli strategic interests, allegedly green-lit the CIA to remind the world that national sovereignty is less a rule than a flexible suggestion.

In one decisive flourish, a foreign president and his wife were removed for safekeeping, a regime change pencilled neatly into the schedule, and an oil-rich nation’s resources politely earmarked for redistribution under a more agreeable leadership—one reliably aligned with U.S. and Israeli regional priorities.

The $1 billion cost of the operation, of course, will be graciously covered by American taxpayers. A trivial inconvenience, really—especially in a country that somehow never seems to have that same $1 billion available for healthcare, education, or addressing domestic crises. But priorities must be respected.

More impressive still is the efficiency of it all: a government that can bypass Congress to apprehend a foreign head of state halfway across the globe, yet remains curiously powerless to pursue well-documented figures on the Epstein list at home. Sovereignty abroad, paralysis at home—a truly remarkable balance.

And how comforting it is to know the estimated $17 trillion in newly liberated oil wealth will be shared so equitably with the public—by which we naturally mean the billionaires, who will now enjoy the rare honour of graduating into the exalted ranks of multi-billionaires.

Yes. The winning.
So much winning. One almost forgets to ask who’s paying for it—and who’s cashing in.

#sarcasm

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Bazzio101's avatar

Pay Day for Trump Mega Donor ~

Meet Paul Singer, the Billionaire Trump Megadonor Set to Make a Killing on Venezuela Oil

https://www.commondreams.org/news/paul-singer-venezuela

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Danny Huckabee's avatar

What I find interesting is that we have the Monroe Doctrine, which forbids outside powers entering our sphere of influence and are willing to go to war to protect it. Yet, we are ready to risk a nuclear exchange with Russia over the border of a country that sits next to Russia: no Monroe Doctrine for the Russians? The writers below are correct in all the violence and graft committed by Maduro and his anarcho-communists friends here and Europe. However, spend a little time studying history of the "bloodlands" which is Ukraine and Belarus, over the past 500 years or so, with Muslim, Swedish, French, and German armies invading through those countries into Russia and the subsequent murder and enslavement of hundreds of millions of inhabitants and it will give one a clearer idea on why Putin and virtually the entire Russian population have gone to war in Ukraine.

If we are going to overturn the gangsters running Venezuela, we should allow the Russians to do the same to the ones running Ukraine.

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John Leake's avatar

Agree with you, Danny.

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sharon marie's avatar

there is no comparison to Iraq i am tired of drugs, illegals, and other wicked things coming into our land. something had to be done. if they fix the voting system they will be able to self-govern again

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alexei's avatar

Apart from oil, voting machines, exporting its criminals to the US and general tyranny, another more critical reason to find a way to halt Maduro’s machinations, was the growing power there of America’s current enemies, China, Russia, Iran, right on its doorstep.

An example of the potential harm avoidable if a US type incursion had been possible, might be with the rise of Hitler in the thirties. His building up of war machinery, tyranny of opponents, let alone Jews, was already known, but most especially the potential threat to its neighboring states in allowing this to continue untrammeled. Imagine what an immense benefit to mankind if a daring and obviously competent state or other entity had had the balls to remove Hitler and his henchmen. Millions of lives saved. For those whose convictions of respecting the “correct” international form of behavior at all times are absolute, the ghastly destruction would have to be allowed to run its bloody course.

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John Leake's avatar

Ah, yes, the voting machines. How about the US develop its own voting mechanisms instead of leaving them vulnerable to the machinations of a banana republic dictator. It reminds me of an old English friend who was addicted to prostitutes, and frequently railed against them because he couldn't get his own vice under control.

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evergreen's avatar

You cavalierly dismiss the voting issue. Isn't it evident that voting is intentionally corrupted BY the government?

Motor Voter, universal mail-in balloting, and electronic tabulation with proprietarily confidential source code is tantamount to helicoptering drugs into the church playgrounds--it's a despicable invitation to disaster.

You ought to write an essay about how you think the government ought to secure election integrity. That will allow an opportunity to think through the problem, propose a solution, and if unchanged from this essay, get a just counseling on where the logic is faulty.

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MJSchilder60's avatar

speaking of Violence Against Women for men who wish to BLAME women for their inability to keep their own selves under control ... Or, wish to have access to more women (i.e., either Free, Paid for, or via Sharia-Law marriage to 4 women) with, or without a hijab...

Can we PLEASE John Leake someday soon discuss the issue and imminent danger of Sharia Law infiltrating the Western World (a direct result of the EU / UN's push for what they lie and call "Multiculturalism" (the liberal mask hiding behind the Israeli Zionist's Kalergi Plan which has created chaos throughout all of Europe, and is now beginning to effect us "across the pond" (not just in the USA & Canada, but in Australis & New Zealand too).

~ I apologize for this being "off topic" ... however if anything will DESTROY all of our worlds in the West to its very CORE, it will be Sharia-Law. It can not possibly assimilate into the 'West' without DESTROYING it.

NOTHING frightens me more than than Sharia Law. NOTHING. It will destroy the very fabric of what it means to be human. This is not just violence against women, but little girls & little boys who are taught women's bodies are to be hidden, so not to tempt boys (the message is toxic to humanity); women need to be honored, just as boys, or all that is of value will become trash.

"Honor Killings" (Muslim girls father & brothers are killing them) over in Europe. It happens now in the USA too. Young teens; Muslim girls in Europe, are murdered for not wearing their hijab. IMPORTANT to NOTE (regarding population) ... Muslims did not take the C19-infertility -shots like 80% Americans did. We will soon be outnumbered.

THE Liberal Left is being USED by the ZIONISTS (toxic-suicidal empathy it is being called) to get 1/2 of the free Western World to go along with this PSYop that ISLAM & SHARIA LAW is NOT DANGEROUS ... It is extremely dangerous to the mental health of our culture in the West; for both boys & girls.

... There is a reason WHY many boys become VIOLENT JIHADISTS when they grow up into delusional men under the teachings of Mohammed; a misogynistic pedophile. Just sayin'.

PLEASE forgive my rant, but it needs addressing (hopefully soon). Or we will wake up in a world of oppressed & sick relationships that do not honor love, relationships, and a world of selfish narcissistic males who never grew up. We must #BanShariaLaw & #BanMuslimBrotherhood in the USA ~ the same Zionists causing all these wars are EVIL in more ways we can even imagine in our worst nightmares.

Never forget TRUMP had Crown Prince MbS (who had his henchmen dismember an innocent journalist while still alive; Jamal Khashoggi, for suggesting he be more 'progressive') & the beheading Jihadist newly assigned President of Syria (Obama helped open the pathway for) were invited into Trump's Oval Office. IT'S ALL CONNECTED. We need to stop these insane men before this takes place in the USA.

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RoseMartyn's avatar

Let’s all, take a look in the mirror.

-practice abstentious with intoxicating substances and give that example to your children.

- don’t hire or frequent businesses that use cheap illegal immigrant labor

- get busy with your local community to make sure your local voting procedures are fair and accurate.

This short list is a beginning only and it’s a lot of work and other people can’t do it for us. We have to do this for ourselves.

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Mike Bond's avatar

Once again, all complaints and no solutions. The problems that we were confronting include: 1. increased Russian, Chinese, Cuban and Iranian influence over events and resources in Venezuela, none of which bode well for US interests, 2. the flow of drugs and immigrants into the US, 3. turning a prosperous polity into a hell hole of poverty and corruption, and 4. standing by while elections are ignored and dissenters are jailed. Are these the facts on the ground? If so, why shouldn't we do what we can to change the facts? Or is it your view these are not the facts on the ground? On a more mundane level, was the grand jury indictment legitimate or bogus?

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Stephen Joncus's avatar

With all due respect, I think that this opinion, and the Mises Institute piece are short-sighted. We cannot tolerate the undermining of the US on multiple fronts caused by Venezuela's criminal regime. Most important to me is the corruption of our election system with software written by Venezuelan agents. The United States of America was literally stolen in 2020 in part due to the Venezuelans. I am sure that other shoes on the election fraud front will be dropping soon. As for running Venezuela, we decapitated the regime and are running Venezuela without any boots on the ground. The remaining regime of goons is now our puppet for a period of time until a transition can occur. They will do what they are told because we have all the cards. This was a brilliant move to co-opt the Chavista goons who still are in control the country. But Trump has them the short hairs with his naval blockade and threat to mount another military strike. The goons who run Venezuela are now Trump's puppets. It is a masterful power play. This is completely unlike any previous US intervention. An informative piece on the dynamics of the situation is at: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2026/01/trump_ends_venezuela_military_operation_by_forcing_chavista_goons_to_be_his_dangling_puppets.html

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Sunlit Wings's avatar

Yes, stolen elections are part of the greater intention of collapsing the West by colluding totalitarian powers such as China and Iran, using Venezuela as their Western Hemisphere base There are more. Undergirding every freedom, including freedom of speech, is the bulwark of free and fair elections. Without them, as Dinesh D'Souza has said, we are not a democracy; we are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy. No wonder the criminals target elections.

It's how Maduro came to have power and to hold onto it.

In December, Lara Logan did an excellent interview (unknowingly prescient about what would happen to Maduro) with the aurhors of the bombshell book, Stolen Elections. It's

Episode 45, a must-listen to have full understanding of what has occurred in Venezuela.

https://rumble.com/v721opy-stolen-elections-with-gary-berntsen-and-ralph-pezzullo-ep-45-going-rogue-wi.html

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Bjay25's avatar

Please keep hammering this message with the hopes that more Americans will stand up and say NO, not this time!.

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Kmac3009's avatar

John,

My main issue with your analysis is that it misses the big story. We lost the Republic when the CIA led coup took JFK out. They followed up with a political assassination of Nixon. They allowed/installed compliant complicit puppets: Ford, Carter, Clinton, Obama, Bush I and II.

Reagan was shot by an assassin who had dinner with papa bush the Sunday before.

There have been two assassination attempts on Trump by CIA associated assets.

The question becomes NOT do we risk falling into tyranny?; Will we restore our republic from the praetorian guard that stole our country 60 years ago and ushered in decades of endless wars?

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Kim Hayes's avatar

great link to Mises Institute. Hopefully everyone has noticed the 6 wardrobe changes of Maduro during this kidnapping. Looks like a Patagonia commercial. The pics of 'Maduro' (if it is) holding handcuffed hands out while grinning like a Cheshire Cat ......is a bit odd as well! We do all know the pics of protesters waving flags and celebrating is not in Venezuela......those pics are from Miami. And last but not least......the Voting Machines need to discussed......flashback Sidney Powell 2020.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Voting machines.

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Kim Hayes's avatar

Dig around the Vote rigging in the USA has been coming out of Venezuela. They have been controlling the Voting Machines.

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MJSchilder60's avatar

We no longer have "elections" ... Ever since 2000, the "hanging chads" were a mere distraction; 2000 was the 1st year EVM were use in Florida ... Gore won. 2004 was stolen AGAIN for George W, Bush ; Karl Rove's IT Guru Michael Connell stole it for Bush & then Cheney had Michael Connel killed 12/18/2008 (his personal plane exploded in Akron Ohio minutes before it was supposed to land) ... just days before Connell was scheduled to testify against Karl Rove for the crime of Election Fraud. There' s a reason they named the latest manufacturer "DOMINION" Voting Systems; the 1% decide who wins, not the voters.

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Kim Hayes's avatar

Bulls Eye! They are always SELECTIONS. I stopped voting years ago.......well actually I vote, I just put my name in the write slot for every position. Thus making my private protest that only I am qualified to govern me. I do occasionaly vote in local elections since I feel we will restore the Planet from the ground up!

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PatriciaE's avatar

My retired army officer husband is all for it. The people of Venezuela are overwhelmingly for it. I hear you and it could come back to bite us, but this wasn’t a war move, it was a police move. We could have taken out Usama before 9/11 but we didn’t do it. Do you think we were better off letting him scheme against us ? I don’t.

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Martix's avatar

I hope Trump succeeds in destroying the very globalist´s Empire that wants to destroy and enslave us all. Venezuela is only a small part of it. Go for it Trump! If you don´t do it now, very soon it will be too late. They have already covid-injected many billions of people, who will die sooner and they will stop at nothing untill they accomplish their depopulation agenda. Trump, you´re our last hope. Find them all. Stop them all. It is about time. If you don´t finish them now, they will finish you and all of us who do not approve of their satanic plans. The Mighty God bless you, Trump and RFK Jr.!

Trump, please create a coalition with Russia, India, Japan, and China and stop the mad dogs globalists from executing their agenda. Too late for those jabbed, but some can still be rescued with structural and functional reintegration of body systems, natural chelation and personalised nutrition. Please expose the evil at all levels. They are pedoes, murderers, satanic, child abusers, slave-masters, censorers, liers, psychopaths, sado-masoquists, greedy, thieves. Please stop them. If not, they will go for the good people they have not managed to destroy yet. We don´t have much time left. The holy spirit will guide you and Bob and your team!

It is something to worry about at great length. Thank you for your courage!

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DawnieR's avatar

There are still a few ACTUAL Journalists left, in 'the English speaking world'.

And one of those, is Pepe Escobar!!

Jan 6th 12 noon eastern 6pm CET with Pepe Escobar!

'We cover the latest Venezuela updates of a regime change war that's unraveling even as Maduro's kidnapping enters a new phase. This and much more in geopolitics!'

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Mindy's avatar

"The United States military is now so capable that it would make short work of the Russian military."

Where does this type of dangerous overconfidence originate? It's the same thing as during covid when people were absolutely certain we could 'stop the spread'.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

John, you make great points utilizing both ancient and our own US history as examples.

However, in my opinion the sum of this problem boils down to a nexus reached --

-- how many are too many dead Americans from drug trade?

-- Is the Monroe Doctrine just a 200 yr old "thing", not worth its manuscript? or is it something our executive government should use at ready (preferably in the early stages of interference in this Hemisphere) to prevent governments, cabals, terrorists, and criminals from doing bad shit and outright evil in our backyard?

-- limiting government is great but mostly applied to preventing the Federal from overreaching into states and building its bureaucracy beyond the means of citizens ability to pay. It is good to have an executive with the resources, temerity, and big balls to walk around with a big stick when it is needed. It is useless to hold our main protector and defender of America's hands behind his back. This is specially true in this new world of two major world powers seeking our death.

-- You may not want to admit it, but we(You, me, all citizens) are at WAR. War with the CCP, Russia(Putin), Iran(the radical mullahs etc) and all countries colluding to kill our currency, kill our young via drugs(fentanyl, cocaine, etc), and kill us directly once we are cornered. Only by carrying the big stick and knocking heads occasionally will the bullies hang fire.

My example:

Thousands of years ago the Greek civilization found itself at war with Trojans and others around their neighborhood. The Greeks "owned" the Mediteranean sea routes and enforced it at will. Like Pirates? not sure. Eventually, their government saw fit to really go after their enemies to the south and around the Italian peninsula. Lots on both sides were killed. Like Napoleon millennia later they over-reached their supply lines, were cornered, and slaughtered (or enslaved) in Sicily. It was very painful for the Trojans in blood and treasure. In retrospect, the Trojans and allies likely wished they had acted more decisively, earlier . . .

Could you consider that if the US had utilized its executive power earlier, say when American Oil companies were Federalized by the Venezuelan government(50 yrs ago?) the situation would never have reached such levels? The potential for having to COMPLETELY rebuild this nation would never have flowered?

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

"-- how many are too many dead Americans from drug trade?"

Indeed. A young man we knew well went to a party to celebrate his college graduation and the next morning he was found dead sitting on the same chair he had occupied during the celebration. A "friend" told him to try some fentanyl "Here try this--Its great!"

We went to his funeral--heartbreaking. Drug trafficking is not what it used to be when I was young....terribly tragic for the parents and all involved. No amount of LSD or weed can kill anyone....at least that was my experience...of course heroin and opium have been with us forever......I didn't know anyone who used these hard drugs.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

In agreement with you, Pretty-red Old Guy, except for one point: It seems to me we are more "at war" with the EU and UK than we are with Russia.

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