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Paul Kirshman's avatar

It’s not the Iranian civilization that Trump is talking about. It’s the Islamic occupation ‘civilization ‘ that Trump is referring to. The Iranian people know to whom Trump’s warning is being sent. My wife’s family escaped the horrors of Islam in Iran. Islam and Iran are incompatible.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Amazing that you can twist your position out of Trump’s statement, “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.” Given Trump’s documented malignant narcissism, pathological lying, megalomania and psychopathy. Yours is pure crystalline denial and rationalization.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

It is amazing that you can twist what President Trump has done to date! Your TDS is completely on display and there is no data to back up your MS Now version of events that have zero semblance of reality! Trump is a typical NYer that is blunt and he has almost zero filter. Is his style my cup of tea, NO! But to list all the nonsense you spew is simply laughable.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

“zero filter” may be acceptable for a NY real estate developer, but it is dangerous and irresponsible for the president of the U.S. But underlying that “zero filter” is an obvious serious personality disorder: malignant narcissism, pathological lying, megalomania and psychopathy. In addition, a number of qualified professionals have suggested early dementia. Even if the world escapes use of nuclear weapons, the worldwide depression caused by this war of aggression will likely result in the starvation of 100s of thousands, if not millions, especially in poorer countries. I am profoundly disappointed that Trump broke his no new wars promises. But now he has committed political suicide. And TDS? Trump Delusional Syndrome, or if you prefer, Trump Dead-ender Syndrome.

Bob's avatar

Daniel, we get it, you’re deeply concerned about Trump’s personality while a theocratic death cult executes thousands, stones women, and sprints for nuclear weapons. Priorities. ‘War of aggression’? The regime’s been at war with its own people and the world for 46 years. Trump’s not starting wars, he’s ending the era of letting terrorists race for the bomb under the cover of ‘diplomacy.’ Your TDS is showing way harder than any filter issue. The mullahs are the danger, not blunt New York speech.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

Oh yes, because their assessments carry so much weight from afar. You have bought into the BS hook line and sinker!

The current Iranian regime is the cause, NOT Trump!

The problem we have is nobody wants to see people actually held accountable, they just want to debate it!

Regardless of one’s politics, the fact is ACTION is being taken! None of his preticessors had the fucking balls to make the move and actually take out these fucking Mullahs who are causing the very pain in the world you are trying to place on Trump!

You are just as much of a feckless idiot as every politician that thought these maniacs would listen to reason! They won’t! They are led by a religious drive that promisss them 72 virgins! What a bunch of senseless nonsense! Like heaven is all about an endless orgy! They are fucking insane morons. Maybe you should join their fucked up cult!

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Yes, Trump’s brain/personality is an absolute open book for qualified psychiatrists and psychologists, despite your desire to deny and rationalize. You obviously have no idea about the legal concept of proximate cause. Yes, “ACTION is being taken!” The question is, what is the nature and justification and legitimacy for that “action”. You cite religious extremism as a justification. Take the plank out of your eye…. To see the extreme religious extremism of the Zionists in Israel and the U.S., including “Christian”Zionists. Finally, one can only hope that the perps, including Trump, Hegseth, Bessent, Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotrich, et.al. will, in the end (pun intended) be held accountable.

Bob's avatar

Calling resistance to a nuclear-chasing death cult 'warmongering' is peak liberal peacenik delusion. You people cheered endless money and weapons for Ukraine's meat grinder, waved rainbow flags for every proxy war, then cry 'bane on civilization' the second someone finally punches back at the regime that's been butchering its own citizens and exporting jihad for decades. Spare us the performative pacifism. Your selective horror only kicks in when it’s America acting strong instead of subsidizing weakness. Pathetic.

Phil Davis's avatar

What is there to twist in a statement that he will end a civilization? There's no room for interpretation; the statement speaks for itself, no matter where one is from.

ENCmd's avatar

Threatens to. Different from doing.

Bob's avatar

Daniel, the only 'twisting' here is you dodging the actual point like a pro. Trump’s talking about the Islamic regime, the one executing 2,000+ people a year, shooting girls for hijab defiance, and racing for nukes while chanting Death to America. But sure, keep psychoanalyzing Trump instead of the mullahs turning Iran into a slaughterhouse. That’s not denial, that’s just sad.

Bill Bradford's avatar

IF time proves you correct, then I will eat my hat. But WHEN time proves you wrong, what will YOU eat?....besides crow, I mean....

Daniel Wirt's avatar

There are plenty of crows in my neighborhood should it be necessary for you to “eat crow”…

Bill Bradford's avatar

Ha. Ha. Ha.....*yawn*.....*sigh*....ttyl, Daniel. You're boring.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Better boring than complicit in aggressive war crimes…

Bill Bradford's avatar

OOOOoooooh! Complicity. He said "complicit"! OOoooooh! OK, that's it, I'm calling the cops. You should start hearing sirens any minute, Daniel....

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

EMERGENCY APPEAL TO THE THREE LIVING FORMER PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES

‘A Whole Civilization will Die Tonight, Never to be Brought Back Again’

Bandy X. Lee

Apr 08, 2026

To the Three Living Former Presidents of the United States:

I am the editor of the 2017 New York Times bestseller, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President. That work helped equip a former White House chief of staff with the knowledge and capacity to avert a potential nuclear catastrophe once before. Today, no such safeguard exists for a mentally-impaired president who is posing a clear and present danger to the nation.

We are in an unprecedented emergency—one that demands extraordinary leadership! The three of you share unmatched moral authority, earned through service at the highest level of our democracy. That authority carries a unique responsibility in moments like this: to take unified, decisive action.

There should no longer be any doubt that Donald Trump is a mentally seriously-disturbed and dangerous person. He must be stopped from committing horrendous war crimes, from destroying the world economy, and from instigating quite possibly a full-scale World War III. Our country will never be forgiven!

Your collective responsibility could not be more momentous.

Stand together publicly. Issue a joint statement of unmistakable force: any action that violates the Constitution or International Law will not be tolerated. Call upon the nation to recognize the gravity of this moment. Request immediate airtime across all major news networks, and address the American people as one: These actions must not proceed.

Appeal directly to senior military leadership and public servants. Remind them of their oath to the Constitution above any individual. Make clear that unlawful orders must not be carried out under any circumstances.

This is a defining moment—not just for a presidency, but for the integrity of our country and our future generations.

Now is the time to act. The cost of inaction will be measured in consequences, from which the world may never recover.

Respectfully yours,

Bandy X. Lee, M.D., M.Div.

Bill Bradford's avatar

LOL!, LOL!, LOL!, LOL!, LOL!,LOL!, LOL!......

By now, almost everybody knows that "psychiatry" is a fraudulent pseudoscience, a drugs racket, and a social control mechanism. It's 21st Century Phrenology with potent neurotoxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do, FAR MORE HARM than good....

Slick Willy Clinton, Bush-puppet Jr., & OneBigAwfulMistakeAmerica, "share unmatched moral authority"? Wtf? lady, don't you see, yet, that people like YOU ARE WHY we have POTUS TRUMP?.... No, Bandy, I could not be more serious in my mockery of you....

~Bill Bradford....btw, I have a D.Div....neener neener neener

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You sound like a scientologist. You're obviously a psychiatric patient or you should be if you're not. The fact that you have a D.Div is just additional evidence that you're a whack job like the Islamic Mullahs.

Let's hope that this is just yet more market manipulation and he is going to TACO yet again so that the Epstein class can make billions.

However, psychopaths almost always escalate and narcissistic psychopaths fantasize about being the baddest, meanest motherfucker ever.

A 2016 Oxford University study found that POTUS Trump had more psychopathic traits than Adolf Hitler.

POTUS Trump knows that Iran was not pursuing a nuclear weapon, because multiple U.S. intel assesdments indicated as much.

However, POTUS Trump may want to go down in history as the man whose destruction exceeded the scale of Harry Truman's bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

A civilization may have to die simply to feed his own ego.

But again I say let's hope that this is just yet more market manipulation and he is going to TACO yet again so that the Epstein class can make billions.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Dude, you've never won an argument with me yet! What makes you think this time is different? LOL!.... Yeah, you been woke up, all right.....sheesh!....

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I've owned you every time. You're a crazy, a real looney tune, albeit with zero insight.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Could I see your Certificate of Ownership, please? I do believe there's a scrivener's error on it, causing you to mis-read certain facts of reality....

"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players...."....

But, your use of the neologism acronym "TACO" simply PROVES you're a brainwashed media puppet, "AwakeNotWoke".

Me, personally, I don't think you're "awake", OR "woke"....

So you're 1/2 correct..... LOL!, LOL!, LOL!....

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

Spoiler alert…. Those three don’t have any authority any more! Nor do they have any credibility! All they have is calluses on their knees!

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

She's redone it, to the four. And I agree that none have any authority. All are psychopaths. There are very few presidents who haven't been. Most senators are psychopaths too. The US has more narcissists than any other country on earth so it probably has more psychopaths too. It has produced over 3,000 documented serial killers. Both Bind-Torture-Kill (Denis Rader) and Ted Bundy were Republicans. Bundy was an RNC delegate. If he had not been so sloppy and had not ended up trying in the electric chair he could have been POTUS today. He was bright and had ambition. Bill Bradford could have been his Monica Lewinsky.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

And there is no such thing as “international law”! lol

You fucking leftists crack me up! International law would need an international army…. That’s the fucking USA Bitch!

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You're talking out of your ass. The Geneva Convention is international.law. You're just a race traitor who wants American POWS denied the protections it offers, cocksucker. Germany treated yanks according to the Geneva Convention. Leftists don't defend the white Christian race. My White Christian race is my nation, said no leftist ever. You hate Whtes and you hate Aryans, cocksucker.i Iranians are Aryans. Iran means "land of the Aryans." You love a non-Christian, non-Aryan country in the Middle-East. You are the leftist. In Germany in 1933 you would have been put down as a communist. That's because you are, cocksucker.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

Not talking out of my ass! I am speaking clearly and from knowledge! A law that cannot be enforced is not a law! None of the Geneva Convention is “law”. It is mere suggestion! And the USA has been the law enforcement for the world for over 100 years! All of Europe would be nothing if we hadn’t saved them from themselves!

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That's delusional bullshit. You fought on the side of the Communist Soviet Union against the only country in history to go toe to toe with the red menace. You were late into entering into WW1 and WW2. Stalin defeated Hitler,not yanks. Never forget whose boots were first into Berlin. Thanks to you Europe suffered under Communism for decades. And under Eisenhower you systematically murdered over a million Germans in American concentration camps in Europe in 1945 through a state policy of starvation and withholding water. You reclassified them as not POWS so you could deny them the protections of the Geneva Convention. You had the hypocrisy to hold Nuremberg Tribunals and now you say international law doesn't exist. You are too cowardly to sign up to the Rome Statute because you are a nation of criminals. You obtain the highest score on narcissism inventories of any country on earth. However, you didn’t need Venezuela's consent to prosecute the murderer of Jocelyn Nungaray and Iran doesn’t need your consent to prosecute you. It can delegate its authority to prosecute you to the ICCand then the Dems can change the law and you can be extradited even if you never set foot in a country that's untrustworthy to arrest you. You really are a dumb cocksucker but most narcissistic psychopaths are. That's why your hero, Ted Bundy, fried.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

I think we know who the narcissistic cocksucker is and it is not I.

Ann Lillie's avatar

Oh dear. What rot you're talking.

Take a deep breath and try to understand that Donald Trump uses words as leverage.

Ernest Zurkan's avatar

I'm so thankful people like you aren't calling the shots nowadays; you come from the extreme end of the spectrum of 'jittery investors' who are always responsible for the economy killing spikes in energy costs everytime some despot barks.

Debra Nolasco's avatar

If I am not mistaken, there are (4) living former presidents: Obama, Biden, Clinton, & G.W. Bush, the first two of whom did so much damage to this country, that I'm not sure we'll ever fully recover - not the least of whom were either seriously injured or died as a result of Biden mandating poorly & inadequately tested experimental genetic injections, which were completely unnecessary in the first place. Covid was always a treatable infection with a 99+% survival rate. Even for those 70+ years old, the survival rate was 94.5%. The current estimate of those who died from the covid "vaccines" is approximately 600,00 & that does not even take into account the under-reporting factor of which 30 is considered conservative. I also do not believe that Trump has any desire or intension of wiping out the Iranian population. It sounds more like his target is a subset of that population - those responsible for keeping the Iranian citizens under their tyrannical thumbs for the last nearly half-century. I am not saying that I am in complete agreement with what is taking place but am also not willing to pretend that our country has not been irrevocably damaged from Obama's attempts to "fundamentally change America" or all of the damaging woke/DEI crap that was foisted on everyone, whether they liked it or not. There is much to dissect here.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Yes, she put out a second statement addressed to four. She's pushing water uphill.with a rake. Almost all POTUS are psychopaths and most senators too

Abheda's avatar

A little background digging on those three might make you realize you're appealing to devils to save us from a devil. Good god man.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I'm not appealing to them. Bandy X Lee is. I don't like any president. Almost all have been psychopaths.

Randall Stoehr's avatar

Kaboom.......Now the game is being played out like two objects hurling at each other,

an avoidable but immanent head on collision dead ahead.

Who do think will "Chicken Out" and avoid a vast major trauma?

I predict a "White Flag" via Iran leaders in less than a week.

JENNIFER PRICE's avatar

1MILLION % pAUL and God bless America and save the world from the mediaeval maniacs oppressing in the name of 'Religion' WHERE has all the oil money gone ?

Susie's avatar

So we're going to mass execute the population of Iran, women, children ,those who are victims of the regime, and that's going to solve the problem? You and the currently 46 readers who like your statement think it's a good thing for the U.S. and Israel to kill an entire population? Can you envision the death and suffering directly from bombings, then no electricity, no water, famine? How anyone be OK with this?

Phil Davis's avatar

The most massive irony in man's history will be Trump using a nuclear weapon to destroy a country that is making its own.

Netanyahu has convinced Trump that a civilization responsible for many of society's accomplishments over centuries is the right thing to do. Trump is fighting Netanyahu's own idiotic dillutional war. Why are we supporting Zionism? If Trump follows the Neocons' advice and nukes another country, this will be the end of America.

Confidence in American values will plunge worldwide. We will be seen as the real terrorists. Supporting this insanity is imbicelic.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

Trump won’t use a Nuke! Good God! You people are complete idiots!

Phil Davis's avatar

You can't possibly know that. Additionally, "you people" must mean healthy, peace-loving individuals. Trump's unbelievable statement is no different than a third-world leader's thuggish rhetoric. I can't think of any other Western leader who has made such a vicious declaration. Mr. Trump is under the spell of Netanyahu, who clearly wants the end of Iran. Right now, today, Netenyaho is fighting against any peace deal. Who are the idiots again?

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

And neither can you! Trump is Notorious for making grandiose statements as a negotiating tactic. Nuking someone is not an option for anyone at any time! It would secure mutual destruction! You know that, I know that and the entire world knows that.

So, please GTFU and realize that Trump at heart is a salesman! He is always negotiating. But he also is not the megalomaniac that some believe him to be.

He wants what he believes is best 1st for America and then the rest of the world. Iran having Nukes is the real threat as they would like North Korea, would actually use them. They are that dumb and why we cannot allow it to happen!

Iran would think if they dropped Nukes they would each have 72 virgins waiting on the other side. A stupid and illogical thing to believe that the afterlife is one big orgy! Idiots all!

Phil Davis's avatar

Does Trump's dick really taste that good to you?

Paul Kirshman's avatar

My reply was censored. Trump is not referring to Iranian Civilization. He’s referring to Islamic ‘civilization’ in Iran.

bri fleming's avatar

I'm sorry, but the overwhelming majority of Iranians practices Islam. It may not always be practice by the book of the Koran..and many Iranians are looking to simply expressing themselves without being killed. but they still practice a form of Islam. And therefore when Trump says that a whole civilization will die tonight, maybe Trump wasn't be clear in what he was talking about. But for a sitting head of government be so unclear..and using such inflammatory language toward another country that I haven't heard in my 71 years: isn't something that we as a people who seeks clarity from out leaders: should accept!! I'm not one to argue about 'things', but I expect more from our leaders than what they are giving us. That' is pretty much my point! So Sub stack is censoring. Wow. I'm not one to come here a lot, before the 'so called military action.' But I thought that Sub stack was created so avoid censoring.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Substack had to be captured, or neutralized, when its influence started to pose too great a threat to the Powers that Be in Covid. The same “Epstein Class” that gave us Covid supports the Project for a Greater Israel.

Lydia donohue's avatar

What kind of a person threatens 95 million people with death and destruction…... Sick.

Gary's avatar

huh. let's see.. the kind of person that knows what an evil civilization looks like? When such a nation are continually allowed to persist in death and destruction of others it becomes time to teach them that love is not the absence of boundaries. Fact is, there is nothing even remotely civil about the Iranian leadership.

Lydia donohue's avatar

Yes, but what about the people that live still there and can’t escape? They must be terrified.

Michael J Badagliacco's avatar

The Iranian People understand who he is talking about!

RLM's avatar

Let us hope and pray they do. But the Left is rejoicing at this horrifying threat no matter how more judicious viewers may interpret it. We should all send him an email. It's time to be quiet and let the enemy worry instead of giving anti-freedom residents of the USA another chance to gloat.

Gary's avatar

gullibility creates the same kind of terror that killed millions of those that were too gullible to consider that covid was not the weapon: the vaccination was.

Lydia donohue's avatar

I saw through the COVID hoax, this Iran thing escapes me. I guess we will know tomorrow. Hopefully I am wrong.

Gary's avatar

For myself the correlation is real because of just how gullible we have become and how long its been since we stood up to the those that are in fact terrorizing us via lies. These lies have been taking a huge toll.

Lydia donohue's avatar

We are on the same page it seems. Hard to know what is real anymore.

Inisfad's avatar

They begged Trump to intervene since January. The Iranian people are very happy that he’s there. The IRGC is only about 5% of the population.

Ann Lillie's avatar

I am told that their benevolent dictators have removed the internet access ..so doubt the people can even get any news etc.

Abheda's avatar

I suspect they're more likely ridiculing him mercilessly. As they should.

Ann Lillie's avatar

Who is it that might be ridiculing Trump? ...and why?

Ann Lillie's avatar

He doesn't.

His words are an artefact, a tool....they are leverage.

Haven't you noticed that?

MaryLS's avatar

What kind of leaders stand by and let such destruction happen? The response from Iran to Trump's warnings is unfathomable.

Barbara L Skinner's avatar

There would be greater horrors ahead for us if Iran were allowed to unleash nuclear weapons on Little Satan, Big Satan and beyond. Death to Israel and Death to America are not mere slogans.

palooka's avatar

it would be great to destroy “israel” but the true inhabitants - palestine - live their land and would never

burn in hell you frigid bay killer

Sherman's avatar

Doubt he is targeting civilians, rather the infrastructure supporting oil and gas distillation and exports. Easy pickings, if you follow recent reports of PPR Global and a few other war reporters on YouTube.

jwemd's avatar

And he said as much

RLM's avatar

Unfortunately, his enemies are legion, and he would be better off to remain silent. They are more likely to worry about a muted response than an overblown one. Sigh.

Philip's avatar

John is so easily triggered. Kinda like the blue-haired screamers. Apparently zero understanding of how Trump works his will over others. Sad to see such an intelligent man reduced to a sort of erudite idiocy. TDS. He needs to write for The Atlantic.

Abheda's avatar

I'm SURE he'd be welcome there, TDS or no.

DBC's avatar

Anybody aware of the word "bluff"?

Trump doesn't want to destroy all of Iran... or their infrastructure

The Jimmy Carter knee pads didn't work 40+ years ago.

Iran has a choice.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

POTUS' Epstein class buddies have already made billions from his market manipulation, often making massive trades just before he makes announcements. Let's hope that this is another such case.

Charles Maxwell's avatar

This essay was an amazing display of misplaced knowledge of history for the purpose of making a point about an event (using nukes) that has a near perfect probability of never gonna happen! Einstein said "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe." What a waste of my time. Not gonna do that again...

Charles Lambert's avatar

Please reflect back on Chamberlain’s appeasement of the Nazi regime. Would the world be a different place now if aggressive action was taken to stop Hitlers aggression in 1939?

evergreen's avatar

Have you noticed that there is a war underway? Warnings, bluster, negotiations, pleas, etc., are all in employment.

If you believe Trump is serious about annihilating Iranian civilization, then his tactic is working. It's useless if everyone knows it to be bluster.

Apart from that, hang tight. Sometimes discussing these things a priori is not wise.

You should think about that while your CinC is at work.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Well said.

Folks simply do not get Trumpie. . . yet, even now! Bluster and BS is one of his main tactics in a self-designed propaganda protocol.

-- no plans to kill Iranian people(note the last words in his message!)

-- this is him bluffing the mullahs and IRGC(what is left of them) to comply

-- he will not take out all their bridges or electrical infrastructure-- only those most impressive or likely to assist the terrorists LEFT in charge at this point.

-- This could also be a mis-direction / slight of hand to move his queen onto Kharg Island!

Wake up you panickans!

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Cementing Trump’s identity as a genocidal psychopath. (Note that INTENT is a major element in the accepted legal precedent defining genocide).

Robert's avatar

It's interesting that you can't even comprehend President Trump intent but still must comment on something you obviously don't understand!

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Trump’s statement of intent is not ambiguous.

Gary's avatar

excuse me? the democrat party is the party of genocidal psychopaths! And yes INTENT is in fact a huge part of Trumps reasoning.. but then we understand that your party love those that hate and their intent..

Daniel Wirt's avatar

I reject both wings of the genocidal war party. You could read about the element of intent in genocide. But I doubt if you can.

DBC's avatar

Who are the genocidal psychopaths? The idiots that threatened the US w/ 11 nukes. They kill their own...says it all.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

No evidence of “11 nukes”. Ironically Trump/Netanyahu killed the man who forbid Iranian nuclear weapons on the first day of this war of aggression (Khamenei Sr.), and now Iran is very likely to proceed to build several.

DBC's avatar

Witkoff detailed it. Don't believe him - your choice.

Who "forbid" nukes in Iran leadership? Nobody in power, "forbid it" in Iran.

Quite the day dream.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

“Nobody in power, ‘forbid it’ in Iran.” On the contrary, Khamenei senior forbid the production of nuclear weapons in Iran, for many, many years. Do some research. Khamenei had the last word.

Abheda's avatar

Who needs research when you've got propaganda, man, amirite?

DBC's avatar

Prove that.

You've got an excellent imagination.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Not my imagination. It’s a matter of well-established historical record. That you don’t know about this speaks volumes.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Ah yes, Witkoff…. Another real estate developer. Demonstrably dishonest and unqualified. The antithesis of diplomat. There is a word for Tump attacking Iran twice while diplomatic negotiations were in progress: perfidy.

DBC's avatar

When you can't reference, when asked... your zero cred, speaks volumes.

Demonstrate, his dishonesty.

What qualifications, is he lacking?

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Apparently you missed my response below. But you project: it is you who refuses to do homework (“I won’t be lifting a finger…”)

DBC's avatar

Demonstrate, his dishonesty.

What qualifications, is he lacking?

You should give Trump a call... you've got all the complaints.... lay it on him. Maybe give him some answers. Actually haven't seen any 'answers' from you.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

I tire of doing homework for others, especially when AI makes it so easy now. AI:

“ Arguments Against the Honesty/Effectiveness of Witkoff's Negotiations:

"Bogus" Broker Claim: A Gulf diplomat alleged that Witkoff engaged in a "bogus misrepresentation of himself as a 'man of peace'" during talks in 2025.

Ruse for Military Action: Iranian officials and observers suggested the talks were used as a ruse or "subterfuge" to buy time to build up a military armada for attacks, noting that strikes often followed closely after negotiation sessions.

"Categorically Inaccurate" Account: A diplomat with direct knowledge of the talks described Witkoff's description of his conversations with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi as "categorically inaccurate".

"Zero Trust" from Iran: Iran's Foreign Minister stated that Iran had "zero trust" in the US negotiations, largely due to the US withdrawing from the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA) and attacking during negotiations.

Lack of Expertise: Critics argued that Witkoff, a real estate developer, lacked technical knowledge, which led to misunderstandings of Iran's nuclear program and the premature dismissal of diplomatic avenues.

Arms Control Association

Arms Control Association”

Abheda's avatar

The statement is in print and has been for a long time.

Abheda's avatar

What "killing their own" says is that this is just another of our false-flag wars to "save other people from their own (democratically-elected, popular) "dictator."" They use this lie on us TIME AFTER TIME to get our boys to kill and die in wars that are beneficial to the trillionaires and a few of their billionaire lackeys, and NO ONE ELSE.

DBC's avatar

Maybe similar to Minneapolis riots, covid psyop, Tesla riots, BLM, J6.... all staged.... maybe.

Iranians staged and manufactured the ~20,000 killed?... But to what end, why would they do that? Did our CIA finagle that?

I've seen a number of Iranian ex-pats interviewed and living here... that corroborated those deaths.... and they wanted help from the U.S.

Richard Amerling, MD's avatar

John,

You’ve lost it, brother.

Mark Levin in no way advised using nuclear weapons against the Islamic “Republic” and there’s zero chance Trump will use them.

Get a grip!

Alan's avatar

Perhaps the history scholars in Iran will read this and explain that it has been shown throughout recorded history entire civilizations have been eliminated by not reaching a settlement agreement.

From Jeffery Mead on Substack this morning...

Iran Is Acting Like It Has Leverage It Doesn’t Have

Iran’s response is where things also get interesting.

They’re still making demands. Still trying to negotiate terms. Still acting like they can slow this down and shape the outcome.

But the reality is, they’ve already taken major hits.

Their infrastructure is being targeted. Their leadership structure has been weakened. Their ability to project power is being reduced in real time. And now the Strait of Hormuz, one of their biggest leverage points, is directly in play.

And instead of adjusting to that, they’re pushing back.

That’s where miscalculations happen.

Because when one side is applying increasing pressure and the other side refuses to acknowledge their position, escalation becomes the likely outcome. Not because it’s the goal, but because it’s the path that’s left.

If they keep stalling or overplaying their hand, they’re going to force the next move.

And based on everything we’ve seen so far, that next move is going to be significant.

albert venezio's avatar

Thank you for this Excellent article John!

Clearly Trump and Netanyahu are Psychotic Insane Sadistic Zio-Nazis! America and others should have shut them down during the Genocide of Gaza and then this disaster likely would not be happening in Iran. But you must add the Zionist Chabad Messiah (Anti-Christ) Supremacist Death Cult factor in which is driving everything and that Trump is a Blackmailed and Bribed PDF Traitor Coward who does the bidding of his Controllers. These Monsters likely launched WW3! That should not be a surprise to anyone who has listened to Netanyahu and his Ministers or Trump and his.

Robert's avatar

Simple minds comprehend little?

albert venezio's avatar

Robert I suppose you are implying Trump is playing 5D Chess when he and his band of Thieves cannot even play checkers!

albert venezio's avatar

I don't understand what you are referring to Robert?

Bill Bradford's avatar

Relax, albert, you're just proving Robert's point....

albert venezio's avatar

Bill the Zio-Nazi apologist crawls out of his cave for a few seconds to make an inane comment! Truth hurts!

Bill Bradford's avatar

Gee, albert, you could at least "like" my comment!....

"Zio-Nazi apologist" truly is one of the best insult names I've been called....

Your comment made me LOL!, albert....true or not....so, - ?....

Ron Dockweiler's avatar

If you believe in Biblical prophecy as I do you have to sit quiet and understand God ultimately has control if all things. As it was in these historical examples. So I wait to see comforted by this belief in God and certainly know no human including me will change God's will in any of this.

A T's avatar

It is not God's will, certainly not the Father of Jesus' will, to "sit quiet" in the face of genocide or threats of genocide against civilian populations like Gaza, like Iran, like Lebanon, like Syria, like Iraq, like Yemen - like the people of Ukraine and (not by Russia but by the US/British/£ionist empire using the people of Ukraine as cannon fodder). Aren't we supposed to believe, follow and obey Jesus the true "Word of God" rather than some unreliable manuscript detailing to a large extent the worship of a Pagan-like 'God' that is appeased by sacrifice including human? The 'God' of the Old Testament is not the Father of Jesus and yet this book is worshipped and made an idol before Jesus and before His father!

Did Jesus sit quiet when they brought the woman before Him intending to stone her to death? No He intervened and saved her life! Did Jesus sit quiet when he discovered the money loaners, the banks set up inside his Father's temple? No, he made a whip, kicked over their tables and drove them out! Those who sit quiet while genocide is taking place or being threatened have blood on their hands as well.

Abheda's avatar

That would be the meaning of Omnipotent. Not Has all Power - IS all Power. Doesn't mean we're supposed to do or not do something. If we do something, that is not separate from God. If we don't do something, that is not separate from God.

Steveo's avatar

satan is the father of earth.

Steveo's avatar

No, God gave satan the earth. And his children are the jews john 8 44

Bill Bradford's avatar

Nope. Not gonna do it. Not gonna let you LIE like that. "God" did NOT "give satan the earth"..... & No, I don't care WHAT WORDS are printed in "john 8 44". Look in the front page of your Bible. See the Copyright notice? That Copyright notice means that the words in your Bible are OWNED by humans....

THINK about THAT....

Steveo's avatar

Im not going to let you lie like that. so you're not a believer, who cares. That's your life. So you only believe it if Gods name was printed in the front.

Steveo's avatar

satan is the father of earth.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Only in YOUR mind....

Steveo's avatar

Go away with your 6 subscribers

Carl Nelson's avatar

OR... the Iranian people will rise up and join their nation to the modern world.