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Boris Legume's avatar

Osama died of kidney disease in late 2001.

The Great Santini's avatar

The Mullahs and the IRGC have never been rational actors interested in MAD. They’ve always held to their apocalyptic religious faith. They’ve been at war with the US and Israel since they gained control of Iran. They have never been interested in any form of peaceful coexistence. They inspired and organized the 10/7/23 attack against Israel. To pretend otherwise is simply foolish.

John Leake's avatar

that's what we were told about Pakistan and North Korea before they acquired nuclear weapons

Ron Panzer's avatar

john,

love your scientific info, but politics??

not realistic.

Iran/IRGC regime has killed tens of thousands of citizens just recently, and for decades. You need to read what they've done to those secretly handing out Bibles, and about their infamous prison conditions, hangings, etc.

Iran has invaded Lebanon through its proxies, destroying its peace, that has resulted in deaths of thousands.

Iran has destroyed Yemen's stability by funding Houthis, creating civil war that has resulted in deaths of thousands.

Iran has funded Islamic militias in Iraq and Judea and Samaria resulting deaths of thousands, and

Iran has suported Hamas that attacked and butchered peaceful residents in Israel, and the numbers killed are the equivalent percentage-wise of over 40,000 Americans being either raped, burnt alive, had their breasts, arms, and genitals cut off, or babies burnt, baked, strangled.

Iran's Constitution demands jihad, the destruction of all non-muslim nations and establishment of global Caliphate.

Their Shia Islam envisions a global war or chaotic violence to bring the 12th Imam, their Islamin messiah, thus they are called "Twelver" Shia Muslims (among the over a dozen different Muslim sects).

If they had a nuclear weapon, they would use it. They admit they are intent on their purification of nuclear material to higher percentages/aka "weapons grade" material.

What the atatollah said back then doesn't matter. It's Taqiyya, inentional lying mandated in Islam if it furthers the advance of Islam by any means (the definition of jihad).

I am sorry that you appear truly uninformed about the Twelver sect of Shia Islam

alexei's avatar

Seems Mr Leake (on behalf of his fellow Americans) would rather take a chance that Iran’s unending calls of Death to America, "the Great Satan", was just sabre-rattling or teasing and that their well-established objective of attempting to refine their 440 kgs of uranium to beyond its current 60% purity is just in the West’s imagination. We simply misunderstand the poor peace-loving souls.

Barbara Charis's avatar

You are so right! Dealing with Iran is dealing with vipers who will strike out, when you least expect it. The Koran states that lying to Infidels is fine...in order to advance Islam. We have many Muslims in Congress who should not be there, because according to their religion they can not take an oath, such as, "to uphold the American Constitution." Muslims are forbidden to take any oath, except to Allah, their Moon God.

Phil Davis's avatar

That's more propaganda. The Iranians are not irrational. They kicked Jimmy Carter's butt and are doing the same to Trump. The Iranians just depleted the US missile inventory with cheap drones made with off-the-shelf parts.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

No, the U.S. has waged war against Iran since 1953.

J Guti's avatar

Everyone else seems to be able to get along with them sans Israel and their pedo partners in the GCC.

James Jones's avatar

sure man; whatever you say.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

What a can of worms!

Ron Panzer's avatar

Islam is essentially a system of conquest by any means available

not a religion as Westerners think

Paul Debbas's avatar

The U.S. doesn't want to attack North Korea because the zionists who control our government don't care about North Korea.

Phil Davis's avatar

One of Iran's tactics is to reduce the US stockpile of weapons by using cheaper offensive weapons. The difference is huge: a $2,500 drone being shot down with missiles costing hundreds of thousands, and some in the millions. The US has begun using microwave defense systems, which are far cheaper, but still, the US stockpile of weapons is very low. Low enough that Trump has stopped the rhetoric of "the biggest attack is coming"; they are not; there's not enough munitions. You can clearly see the difference in Trump's saber-rattling after he learned about the shortage. Iran has won so far with its attrition strategy. One would think the Pentagon would understand this beforehand. But, once again, the stupidity and short-sightedness of Neocons are on display.

Ron Panzer's avatar

right!

lasers are being implemented to solve that disparity

Phil Davis's avatar

Yes, but you'll notice the similarities to Iraq. Road bombs were devastating and cheap. Billions were spent to combat that strategy with high-cost vehicles. Lasers are similar, and it's billions again; I should say, it increases the debt.

Taming the Wolf Institute's avatar

Opinion. Mind viruses are real.

However, their nature and virulence go beyond surface analysis.

They are the product of a much deeper mind, a quasi transcendent mind.

If we are to eradicate the mind viruses threatening our survival, we will need to plumb deeper depths with a better understanding of mind.

Cmpohl's avatar

John,

You need to be more cautious about using Grok as a legitimate source of argument. But to be fair most other “sources” and perspectives are hardly better. 😎

Christopher.

Tom Malcolm's avatar

I'm not interested in a bun fight over whether a nuclear armed North Korea or a nuclear armed Iran is a greater threat to the globe. I just notice that in this latest rapprochment with Kim, Trump seems unconcerned with North Korean nuclear capabilities; in contrast to his 1st term dust-up with "little rocket man".

albert venezio's avatar

Iran is 1000 times more intelligent and Courageous then Traitor Coward PDF Trump and his Epstein Class of Clowns!

WTTW's avatar

What a dick

Maha's avatar

The U.S. has threatened to end Iranian civilization forever? That is not remotely true. The U.S. has threatened to end the Iranian Islamist regime. If anything, the outcome would be the return of civilization to Iran, with its people not bound in a prison state, it's women raped and murdered for not wearing the mullah-approved garb, and it's assets spent on proxy wars and massive missile and drone depots.

Daniel Wirt's avatar

Despite the bloviating of the Trump Dead-Enders/Delusionals who chronically infect Leake’s comment sections, the overwhelming evidence is that Trump and the Zionists are the irrational actors, not the North Koreans and Iranians. Before Trump tore up the JCPOA at the behest of the Zionists, Iran was verifiably limiting enrichment to 3.67%. Iran enriched to 60%, as a deterrent/bargaining chip only after Trump and the Zionists tore up the JCPOA. Iran has every reason to view the Zionists (both in Israel and the West) as enemies, because of the existential threat posed by the Zionists in their plans to destroy Iran and establish “Greater Israel”. The Iranian nuclear weapon that Trump and Netanyahu have been perseverating about for years is a smokescreen: precisely analogous to Iraqi WMD. But congratulations to the neocons, Zionists, Trump and Trump Dead-Ender Syndrome sufferers: after the perfidy of killing the Iranian leader (during negotiations) who resisted Iranian nuclear weapons, NOW 40+ million Iranians are polarized and desire revenge, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Iran does build nuclear weapons. Persians are highly intelligent and educated; it would not take them long to build gun-type nuclear weapons.

James Jones's avatar

"widely regarded as aggressive and unpredictable"

by who John? the deep state? you believe what the MSM serves up to you?

some pariahs suggest that North Korea has not been attacked by the endlessly kind and benevolent US; who we all know is only seeking to spread peace and love across the world;) NK has not been attacked as it has nuclear weapons; of course, I couldn't possibly comment myself. Way about my pay grade.

Lori's avatar

That little short fat shit in North Korea needs to be placed in an oubliette and left there to die. He and his spawn are beyond grotesque.