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BertPE's avatar

Charlie, being a Christian, would want us to pray for this person. Let's do that. The Lord doesn't want any souls He's created to go to waste. Let's also pray for the culture that created him.

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Barbara Lee's avatar

As you give, so shall you receive. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, for as you do unto others so it will be done to you. This is the universal law of karma. A shot to the neck would be perfect justice for this killer. Between “ready, aim, and fire” he would have a few moments to consider his eternal future and repent.

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BertPE's avatar

Jesus didn't teach karma, He taught love, even of your enemies.

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Barbara Lee's avatar

If you have read the Bible you know that God was intolerant of evil. The death penalty for murder IS justice. Love is an action word not an excuse for sin.

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leonid breshnev's avatar

You misunderstood him. God is in each and everyone of us. There is no man in the cloud. What difference does it make if Charlie was Xtian, Muslim, Hindu or Amazonas Tree Hugger ?

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Linda's avatar

Last night's news conference with the governor of Utah and more indicated that the death penalty would be pursued.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

As I just posted on another piece about this topic:

We need to take all this news with an enormous grain of salt as the intellimafia works hand-in-hand with the media to concoct a narrative that will cover its tracks, and any presentation of this as a lone crazy gunman is the typical formula used to divert attention from the true perpetrators orchestrating public events to manufacture consent for tyranny.

What the killing of Charlie Kirk tells me is the intellimafia is desperate to kick off a violent culture war. They tried to instigate a race war during the 1960s and failed; I am confident they will fail in this effort, too, but it will not be without bloodshed, most if not all executed by the intellimafia and its hired agitators.

We can curtail that bloodshed, however, by identifying the Problem-Reaction-Solution pattern here as well as in all the other intellimafia’s handiwork over the past century:

1) Problem: Assassinate a controversial figure who engenders heated emotions on both sides ranging from admiration to revulsion.

2) Reaction: Violence, strife, exacerbated division, and civil war. This is the ingredient they want the public to supply, but they will seed it with their own agitators and blanket us with propaganda until people succumb (which I pray they won’t).

3) Solution: They will propose heightened totalitarian restrictions, data collection, Palantir-panopticon surveillance, and curtailments of our liberties.

If we repeatedly expose their trap instead of falling into it, they will not be able to justify #3. It is vital that we point our fingers at the puppetmasters rather than their puppets.

Please read the short introductory essay in my piece on the intellimafia from yesterday and help me spread awareness that our greatest defense against the intellimafia’s attempts to sow violent discord is to instead enter into respectful dialogue with our perceived opponents, listening to one another’s concerns, and trying to understand their perspective as they try to understand ours:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/memes-by-themes-20-the-intellimafia

In other words, we need to rehumanize one another so we experience each other face to face instead of as caricatured villains through screens.

To quote from my essay:

“The intellimafia wants you to think this is about left versus right, gender politics, immigration, race, Trump, and every other hot-button topic they’ve installed in people’s minds so they can mass-manipulate the populace at will.

“They want us to hate, feel outrage, blame the other, strike back, and dive head-last into uncivil war.…

“They want to toss out the ragebait and hide behind the curtain while we dogfight.

“We defeat their attempts to divide, dissipate, and decimate us by refusing to let them play our emotions, cognitive biases, and trauma like a well-worn record.

“We cancel their programming by remembering one another’s humanity, engaging in respectful dialogue, cutting the puppeteers’ strings, and alchemizing pain into love.”

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6hEdited

"Charlie" is probably having a nice quiet drink in the corner of some CIA bar right now.

Gunshot wounds can be realistically faked by Hollywood effects - small explosive devices, fake blood bags etc.

We are being propagandized 24-7. It is legal to lie to the American people. We must not accept this dystopian nightmare the powers that be are trying to enslave us in.

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leonid breshnev's avatar

yup reminds me of Epstein ?

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5hEdited

I do not think Epstein is dead. I saw the pic of his body and face. His smug look was still there and he looked normal.

He choked himself. Think of how hard and how long it would take to do this to yourself!

He is supposed to have choked himself using materials in his cell. He did not break his neck as in a prison hanging, he had to slowly choke the air out of his head and neck.

Think of the blood congestion that must build up. There would be broken blood vessels in the eyes, facial disfigurement, black eyes, bloating, bruising, swollen tongue, and discolouration. You would look a mess.

He just had a brown line neatly painted on his neck!

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

Yup, I believe it was a planned highly paid off escape! How many times did El Chapo escape from prison in Mexico! Epstein had the support structure and the financial backing to pull that off!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Perhaps, but it is unlikely he would willingly walk away from his entire life—unless they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse, which is always a possibility.

That said, it doesn’t particularly matter for the intellimafia’s purposes whether it happened or didn’t—what matters is the public believes it, feels it, and reacts accordingly.

That’s why we must collectively pull back the curtain on their machinations because the magic show only works if people believe it.

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5hEdited

How do you know his "entire life" is not a constructed identity by the security services?

The plandemic was planned decades before. The totalitarian takeover also took decades of planning and they have put their operatives in the public eye beforehand to carry out their strategically important tasks when required.

Richard D Hall asked some similarly pertinent questions of the Jo Cox "murder". Her sister is Kim Leadbetter who brought in the assisted suicide Bill in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Leadbeater

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I considered that possibility, too, and whether that is the case or not is also immaterial as it cannot be proven and makes no difference in terms of understanding the intellimafia is attempting to instigate violence and strife.

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

Division, Deception, and Destruction is what keeps the DemonRats, RepubTurds, Mr. Operation Warp Speed and all the corrupt agencies in power!! Our lives are being led by corrupt, Narcissistic, Megalomaniacs!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

🎯

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AG Fairfield's avatar

Hey Margaret, I am very sympathetic to this perspective because during Covid I hung out with JFK assassination scholars and I read Whitney Webb’s books.

Ifyour thesis is true in this case it does seem to me that the agitation is going to be around the trans community — I noticed that people like Megan Kelly are already very credulous— in any case it meansmeans that the most ideological actiors on the left are trying to be aroused. The blob is hoping to do the same with the conservatives and particularly Christian conservatives around this issue.

I’ve recently listened to a fair number of Charles Hughes as well about the way sides work and he sounds a lot like you. His message being re-humanize your neighbors and it’s not a left right conflict.

My caution is that some people really do appear to be beyond reach and it’s like they just need to be avoided and not given any more oxygen. it’s a stereotype but the “progressive white woman between 40 & 70 yo” is a large part of that group.

I believe we really do need to try to win back our young people and that’s what Charlie was doing and that’s the mission that needs to be carried on.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I appreciate your measured perspective and am in agreement. Some people are so menticided (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-the-menticided-a-12-step), they are beyond reach, but if we can speak sensibly and lovingly with what I call the swing thinkers, I believe the fringes will fall toward the middle as their views become increasingly ostracized.

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Marjory Morningstar's avatar

Pearls of wisdom spoken. Thank you.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you so much, Marjory 🙏

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sandy's avatar

To whom are the guy in black and guy in white behind Charlie signaling right before the shot?

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Paul Cardin's avatar

"DEATH. This is what happens to lefties". Hateful party politics taken to an absolutely insane degree. The authenticity of this incident gets more questionable by the hour.

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Ingrid's avatar

I mourn for Charli’s mother, father, widow and now fatherless children. I also, now mourn for the parents of this 22 yo man who most likely perpetrated this heinous act. If he is proven guilty then he, by ALL MEANS, should pay the price… his payment will likely be quick…unless he sits on death row for decades on end…but his parents will suffer anguish for the rest of their days. They need our prayers just as much as Charlie Kirk’s family…and dare I say this young man, also. He MUST pay the price for his crime; however, if he does not know Jesus as his Saviour then there is time! ……Beauty for Ashes

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DaughteroftheKing's avatar

AMEN....

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nancy barker's avatar

I’m concerned that the killer’s public defenders, paid for by us taxpayers, will argue that he can’t get a fair trial since he’s already been found guilty and convicted by the Press and even by our POTUS. Some jurists will be sympathetic (like the cult that has expressed love for the Luigi guy who apparently murdered the insurance executive). He may not be found guilty…..or, will be deemed to be mentally unfit. Sadly, he will likely serve life in prison, at our expense.

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Andrea Beatrice Reed's avatar

"The President elaborated, … “I hope he is found guilty and gets the death penalty.”"

How could anyone get a fair trial after a statement like that by the President? He shoots his mouth off without thought. Think about the Central Park 5.

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

You mean like the black guy that murdered the girl from Ukraine!!

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nancy barker's avatar

That one too. He’s mentally unfit to understand his actions, his attorneys will sadly argue.

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John Day MD's avatar

We shall see. They have some body-part prints from the recovered 30:06 rifle. There have been 2 different young male images shown as suspects as of yesterday.

I don't hope for the death-penaly, myself.

Questions will always come up. "Closure" can lock-in a certain story about events, which may not be true, as with both JFK and RFK assassinations.

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Di Chez's avatar

I respectfully disagree. It sure absolutely no questions asked no chance for a plea bargain be death sentence. However, we both know he'll sit on death row for 20+ years while tax payers foot the bill. That's my issue with death row...why bother if they get to live on our dime for x amount of years?! And this is all of course assuming they have the correct shooter. America doesn't have an LGBQT and all the other alphabet weirdo problem it has a mental health problem and our judicial system is the reason for that! I mean look at all the college campuses we are reading CHEERED at Kirk's death?! Who in the hell is raising these worthless wastes of oxygen kids??? This is what happens when parents allow social media to raise their children! How is everything we say about pro-life hate speech, but NOTHING vial they say is?! I'm all for free speech, but no way our forefathers intended on it to be people talking to strangers on the internet in the most disgusting ways OR threatening someone's life! If something major isn't done about this it will be like the Rodney King and Antifia bs...nothing gets done so they keep doing it!

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John Day MD's avatar

The story is developing. Tyler Robinson 22, is a person whose dad turned him in. There is a human story here. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooter-manhunt-live-updates-rcna230762

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5hEdited

How do you know they will get the "right person" and not some innocent patsy they can judicially murder?

Haven't you been keeping up these last sixty years?

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Di Chez's avatar

Yes I have but we've also become a EVERYTHING is a conspiracy people. And if you'd read my comment I said...assuming they have the correct shooter. I don't understand why when your life has been threatened MULTIPLE times you're not taking steps to protect yourself? Again America has a mental health issue. I even take conservative news with a grain of salt. They are no different than fake news network. They write a 100 articles alot "speculating" or this professional in this field says x. Professional or not it's still just speculation. Then before anything is resolved they'll be moved on to the next big story. Professional hit or not he'd triggered alot of leftist. Poor things...🙄🥴 And again I'll repeat...when NOTHING happens to someone then it never stops! During the Rodney King bs they yanked an older truck driver out of the cab...cut the crotch out of his pants and spray painted him! Like really WHAT did that prove or do?! NOTHING but prove they were thugs with mental illness. I NEVER understood why military/police could not shoot after warned...stop or I'll shoot?! Shoot at the first row and the 15 rows after would have been backing their butts up and moving along! Like kids if you constantly warn you'll get a spanken if you continue x, but never do keep doing x they were told not to! That's common sense! However, we have a whole generation of time out people and putting cry rooms in colleges! 🤦‍♀️ My children are grown and I even have a grown granddaughter and I always told them you do stupid stuff I'll stand by you, but not behind you! IOW you'll have to face the consequences! Who has faced ANY consequences for all that burning and looting??? Thus hence WHY they keep doing it!!!

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Barbara Charis's avatar

A Utah father turned his 22 year old son in...after he admitted doing the shooting.

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RoseMartyn's avatar

From a perch very far away this is what my old grandma gut instinct tells me: This Tyler guy was involved but he, like Matthew Crooks or Lee Harvey Oswald is only one element with darker, more elaborate forces orchestrating. I was even told by a former CIA that that kind of shot could have come from a drone. As an investigator one must wonder, who benefits from this man’s demise? And who has the skill and resources to pull this off?

Big pharma? Military Industrial Complex? The LGBTQ community? The Democratic Party? Muslim extremists? China? Russia? Mossad/Israel?

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Peter Gill's avatar

As all lawyers know this what is called prejudicing a case and no president should ever do it. When the president announces that a person is guilty before the suspect is even tried, it prejudices public opinion against the person and any lawyer can and should use that to call for a mistrial. Trump is a fool.

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Julie K's avatar

I am calling it right now. I will bet 100 percent this kid was on or withdrawing from SSRIs

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Richard's avatar

Trump on F & Friends? What a surprise? I can't help but think it's narrative control. Trump was notoriously flat out wrong with his paid ad in NYT years ago regarding the Central Park Five. Trump is no patriot, as patriots do not violate their oath of office to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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leonid breshnev's avatar

Thanks for the recognition. Now dream you great American dream on. The blond wigged man in the white house will give you hope until there's non left. Good night

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Mark Bucherl's avatar

Um, is this substack expanding from mainly health news to general news? May I suggest that is a mistake?

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