Lt. General Kellogg's senescent thesis on Fox News overlooks the fact that the Romans never conquered the Persian homeland, only western Persia in present day Iraq.
Since this Stack started off with Dr Peter McCullough's contributions, a medical freedom orientation I feel emboldened to "hijack" the thread back to the medical freedom origins of it via the "do it like the Romans used to do it" segue John provided!
How about we start off with what Romans did to ward off infectious disease: a fascinus. They wore a fascinus around their necks, had them in their homes, it protected them from illness and dis-ease.
The Winged Phallus was the facemask of Roman times. Its value was purely symbolic - "beware! a dangerous pathogen is in the air about us, take due care!" Because that was the ONLY thing masks were/are used for. Symbolism. Behavioral Science (BS)-informed epidemiology intended to alert and frighten us into "social distancing" and avoiding human contact. Prescribed for everyone as Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions due to the psychological (BS) effect masks are known to produce, "Fear Amplification." Because the masses were diagnosed as 'suffering' from "Optimism Bias." 'Wrongly' believing we had (have) little to fear about a dangerous, scary pathogen in the air about us that we could infect each other with. Remember, masks were only worn by bank robbers and plane hijackers prior to 2020 because they "amplify fear," aka "terrorize" people into compliance with their demands. Sames. Masks are terrorizing to the human amygdala, provokes the same exact fight, flight, freeze response most people get when seeing a snake. Psychology studies attest to this fact known by the BS'er epidemiologists.
At least the Winged Phallus protected without terrorizing the population. And wasn't accompanied by the disgusting, infectious side effect that wearing dirty mask petri dishes on one's face comes with.
Another benefit that the Winged Phallus used in Roman times had was it also protected against the Evil, all-seeing Eye, aka "Envy":
NVidia. Big Tech giant, one of the largest market caps of any company in the world. Because it makes the best CPU for emerging AI technology, the natural evolution of videogaming that NVidia is built on. About those AI Data Centers. "All-Seeing Eyes." Envy. Just like its Roman namesake.
One of NVidia's founders started one of those 'benevolent' charitable trusts. The Priem Foundation:
From facemasks to theories on infectious disease to population control via government-sanctioned terror, to 24/7 surveillance, even of human thought, mind control, transhumanism, the Romans had a lot of the issues of our times already figured out. Perhaps we would be better off doing it like the Romans. In dire need of a modern-day Winged Phallus to protect us from the AI surveillance state being built all around us. That is a much greater peril to us, our way of life than anything going on in the Middle East, Iran. Just a distraction from the true evil being constructed and imposed on us at home.
Recent hx / reality of who General Kellogg is: appt by Trump to bring resolution Ukraine & Russia but has blocked the process. His dtr on Ukraine payroll and said so publicly.
But he's not influenced by a family mbr [ J Kushner has no impact on Trump 😢 either 】
This is for you Greg. If you did real research and not going by Fox news you would be Truly informed - 1 minute video if you have the attention span on the Zio-Nazis End Game in their own words:
Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews!
This Psychotic and hundreds of others like him (What he says is in their "Holy" books, many Jews do not know this or don't accept it). Keep in mind he is talking about you, your kids, grandkids, friends, innocents etc!
This is not Hate Speech according to Musk's rules. But criticizing IsraHeELL's Genocide of hundreds of thousands of Defenseless mostly Women and Children by every means imaginable gets you banned for Hate Speech.
Do you see what they did to the Gazans with Trump's overwhelming support? They'll use it everywhere until they are STOPPED!
General Kellogg's comment merely serves to reinforce the view that most Americans are profoundly ignorant of history as well as geography. Just as many Jews regard Gentiles as subhuman and therefore insignificant, Americans tend to regard everything that has happened outside their own country or before its founding as unimportant.
Crassus was killed in the battle which he had foolishly provoked. Various legends circulated afterwards: that the Parthians had poured liquid gold into his dead mouth to mock his greed, and that his head was used as a prop in a performance of Euripides' "The Bacchae". (Showing, incidentally, that the Parthians were cultured and familiar with Greek drama).
Under the ensuing Sassanid dynasty, the Persians more than held their own against the Roman Empire. The emperor Gordian III was murdered by his own soldiers after being defeated by Shapur I, while the emperor Valerian was captured and lived out his life as a prisoner. Later Rome advanced to the Tigris, but lost all its gains after the death on campaign of the emperor Julian.
The big problem is Netanyahu. His wet dream is the end of Iran's political and military institutions. That leaves no room for negotiations. Why would Iran negotiate with Netanyahu in power?
The effective regime change may be the removal of Netanyahu.
I rather disagree. Horrible and inhuman as Mr Netanyahu is, I fear that his ideas are quite in line with those of many - if not most - Israelis.
If you tell people that they are superior to others, history shows that they find it hard to resist the flattery. Greeks thought everyone foreign to be intrinsically inferior; the word "barbarian" stems from their perception that those who did not speak Greek merely babbled "bar-bar-bar..." Aristotle seriously considered that non-Greeks might be born for slavery. The Romans... well, we've covered them! Then there were the Chinese, the Japanese, Arabs, the Spaniards, the Dutch (yes!), the French, the Austrians, the Poles, the British, and now the Americans and the Israelis. And many more.
Just as Germans were quite open to the idea that they were intrinsically superior, the Israelis are today. Actually I find the American feeling of superiority hardest to understand, since it goes alongside their "melting pot" theory that people from every corner of the world become superior just by entering the USA. Somehow the blessed Constitution - which they resolutely ignore most of the time - sanctifies and elevates them.
The problem with Netenyaho is that there are no compromises. In America, we look for win/wins. Netenyaho has been saying that Iran needs to be destroyed for over thirty years. I mean, utterly destroyed. He's referenced the account of the Amalakites in Israel's history where God told Israel to destroy everything of the Amalakites, even their children and animals, because of the way the Jews were treated by them after leaving Egypt. Netenyaho believes he's fulfilling Hebrew prophecy and acting as a sword of God in 2026.
Iran sees this too. Why would they agree to the 20 or 15-point peace plan when they know Netanyahu wants their total destruction?
I think you are being generous to 'Yahu'. He may be using the excuse of the Hebrew prophesy, but I believe his actual goal is to see the USA burn itself out, financially and politically, in this unprovoked assault on Iran, so that he himself can emerge as Top Dog and fulfill his dream of putting the Zionists at the apex of human power and wealth.
Just thinking about this the other day. Superior Aryan race, Jewish supremacy, American Exceptionalism. Appreciate your longer list of supremacies. Like gods and empires, supremacies fade.
"The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwelleth in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; who saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?" [epigraph, Obadiah verse 3, from James Dickey's novel Deliverance]
And concretized in the novel: "The older man was standing with the gun barrel in his hand and no change in the stupid, advantage-taking expression of his face, and a foot and half of bright red arrow was shoved forward from the middle of his chest. It was there so suddenly it seemed to have come from within him."
There are dozens of other examples. Left as an exercise for the student.
It’s much harder to find any peoples who have not, at some time, imagined they were the Master Race or the Chosen Ones. (Which are equivalent when you come to think of it).
I would say “most Israelis”. I understand that most Israelis have no problem with the rape of Palestinian prisoners. But this goes way beyond Israel. To the U.S., with its large number of “Christian”Zionists, neocons and geopolitically, geographically and economically ignorant.
Mostly great comment, but to be fair, there HAVE been protests in Israel against the whole genocidal path that 'Yahu' has been on for many years now. Not all Jews are Zionists.
Reagan removed all but American history (according to himself) and World History (that affected the US so very little real World History) first from the Californian public school curriculum and then the entire nation's school curriculum. I don't think Modern European History was taught in the U.S. in most schools at all. Certainly Middle Eastern History has never been part of the curriculum. So we have at least five generations who know very little history and most of that comes from B-grade films Reagan could remember being in (as though they actually happened as written in his scripts) despite having active Alzheimer's. He also removed the arts and dumbed down literature where you learn empathy.
Treason has high costs indeed. Trump is not the first president to dismantle our democracy, such as it was at the time.
Reagan also remove the requirement that all students must study the Constitution before graduating from high school. Wokeness is one of many negative outcomes of Reagan's dastardly deed.
For all the good that supposedly did. "Civics" taught; tariffs were good for protectionism (they're actually unconstitutional, as Excises and Duties are required to be uniform), and the Constitution provide for "three" branches of government (there are two; the Judiciary is an appointed subsidiary, and the Articles of Confederation define the Supreme Court as the Congress itself).
Jimmy Carter is who fk’ed up school curriculums… he took the right of the states to fund and implement education and made it a federal responsibility…He created a federal agency to control and fund education….and they SUCK at it.
Naturally, National Test scores have only gone down since its inception…. and have never once had a gain… since the mid seventies!! It is a Truism that if you want something to fail, allow our federal government gain control of it.
George Bush later tied test scores to funding and VIOLA! Now schools only teach what’s on the test… and it’s not World History or Civics… it’s not even balanced… It’s indoctrination… and it’s a major part of why our society is now coming apart at the seams.
The best thing any future president could do is return education to the States, dissolve the federal education department and take this federal government’s FILTHY hands…and the hands of the leftist bent teacher’s unions off our Children’s minds.
I was in college then. I got a BA from a very expensive private college without taking out a single student loan (which my American mother made me promise not to do). From a very low income family. Nixon and Kissinger set out to destroy my college by refusing federal monies in 1972 (they failed) and created a COINTELPRO operation on campus (if students look like Mormons they're probably FBI, especially at a progressive college). In my experience, Reagan is the one who destroyed our system. Ten years later my kid's daycare cost the same amount as my friggin' private college!!! Students today do not have the option with the cost of education and the lousy terms of these loans. Now many kids aren't even considering college. They sign up with the military because they get a $50K bonus for doing so, and the promise of a free college education (if they survive physically, mentally, and emotionally, and have the academic background to succeed in college--two big ifs). They tend to major in financial or science majors--many Humanities majors have DISAPPEARED--even if they lack basic math and science background. Hello. Is it any wonder the billionaire bros are so emotionally and socially retarded? It is predictable.
'What most Americans know they have learned from movies and TV. Hardly any Americans read books, much less serious ones. Back in those days when I was a university professor, I recall a lecture I gave on the Russian revolution. A student interrupted me and said, “that’s not the way [it] happened in the movie.”
'At first I thought he was making a joke, but he was serious. He was challenging my explanation based on years of study with a Hollywood movie'.
TOO funny. I think the advent of computer culture doomed literacy in the U.S. Racism also had a role. The curriculum was opened up to include everyone in the national conversation. The negative reaction from White America just fueled the effort. We are still arguing about whose voice is relevant and whose is not, which is what ICE is about. Locally, the schools no longer have libraries. Kids are being taught to use AI rather than how to read and write and think themselves. The public library's bookmobile only stops at schools, trying to get kids to take books out. Most kids who do read do it on their cellphone and other digital devices which are a poor substitute for a physical book. Digital reading doesn't stick--like everything digital it's temporary. I have a huge library because the libraries are getting rid of books that haven't been taken out in the past three years--either free or for 50 cents a pop. It is unreal. They are happy to buy books published in the last year or two. But classics? Forget it. When I was a kid I averaged finishing 7 books a week. A week. I never went anywhere without a book in case I had to wait for someone to pick me up. Sometimes I hid my current reading behind a textbook, I was so bored in school. And I went to a great international school. I went to college with well-off private school-educated American kids who told me they hadn't read a book that wasn't required reading in two years! And that was in the 70's. Another reason to get off computer-based devices.
John, could I be mistaken but my sense is Kellogg was referring to Roman tactics in general, in which he is correct, not specifically to Roman attempts to conquer Persia, however much I agree Trump's Zionist alliance to obliterate Iran, assassinate top leaders has to be one of the dumbest policy decision of any US President, his minions merely kissing his feet regardless of caked ion manure.
Having listened to the clip, my main impression is of General Kellogg's confusion and inarticulacy. But he definitely does seem to be suggesting that the Romans were successful putting "boots on the ground". That merely begs the question, though: sometimes they put boots (or perhaps sandals) on the ground successfully, and sometimes unsuccessfully. The Iranian situation reminds me most of the Thueringer Wald, where P. Quinctilius Varus and his three legions were wiped out to a man after rashly intruding on territory where the enemy held a great advantage.
A handy summary of the disaster (from the Roman point of view). One thing they did wrong was to take Arminius (perhaps “Herrmann”) hostage as a young boy, bring him up and educate him in Roman ways, train him as a military officer (seriously!) and then send him back home. Surely, if not a sign of overt contempt, certainly too complacent. Perhaps they thought that, once “civilised”, he would not “revert to barbarism”. But he did - like a shot. His patriotism and hatred for the invader easily outweighed everything he had been taught in Rome.
It was said that all the Roman officers captured in the battle were burnt alive as a sacrifice to the German gods. Horrible, but no worse than being caught inside a burning tank, ship, or aircraft.
Pygmalion GB Shaw's "his way to" Chicago --sculptors "in love" already infest every corner of everywhere & when -- & performs the Teach that Blackbeard's Eddie Murphy to Trade Places with himself:
Why would you assume Kellogg was referring to territory, over accomplishments via strategy, innovative approaches and tactics? The Romans didn't win every battle but it won enough to make it one of the greatest empires in history. He's a soldier not a historian. His statement was accurate from his perspective. Nice try though.
FOX news was the voice of insanity during the Iraq stupidity, too. They beat the WMD war drum as loudly as anyone.
Trump has trapped himself into something he said he would never do. To complete any regime change, one must use troops, and a lot of them. Iran is not going to negotiate at the level Netanyahu demands. So Trump either escalates or takes a hit to his ego and walks away.
Nothing about this adventure will be quick. If you think differently, you might want to look and see if you're sucking at a Neocon teat.
Listen carefully to what the man is saying and in what context, PLEASE. You are totally consumed with confirmation bias, John. The general was not talking about the Romans putting boots on the ground in Persia, he was talking about the concept in general that the Romans used when conquering ANY territory - getting boots on the ground. Good Grief! You are becoming completely overtaken by the TDS disease state.
Kellogg is a nutjob. If it were up to him he would spend $2T a year on the military and draft every single person between the ages of 18 and 25 into the military and attempt to conquer the entire earth. Those he couldn't conquer he would nuke. Megalomaniacs like him are the scourge of humanity.
TW, like with leake, you got to love the historical juxtapositions. I dont seem to comprehend, what is wrong with the USofA: Iraq wars, all of them, Aphganistan, Iran..What the hell are we doing, other than destablizing the world. Is it unreasonalbe to think the Zionist agenda is driving all this, and if so, how ? Bush II no doubt, Trump completely..but I just dont get the pressure points. txs The why yes, never conceed, always destroy, never make peace (except for greater war) just greater Israel at all costs, bu tth how I dont get other than the perrenial holocaust blackmail that has destroyed so many politicians (Bush i for instance, Senator Percy in the 70's)
Almost every decision made so far in this Iranian war has been wrong. I attribute this to two fundamental failures.
First, a complete disregard for historical realities.
Second, the distinctly American hubris that assumes everyone else thinks as they do.
Iranian culture has been forged through centuries of conflict. Americans must get this through their pompous skulls: bombing cities, destroying infrastructure, and killing Iranians as “collateral damage” will not break their will — it will harden it. What would demoralize a fearful population only fuels Iranian defiance. That resilience is precisely why they have endured.
Blowing up their economic livelihood — their oil and gas fields — will have two perverse effects:
It will starve ordinary citizens, not the military, which will always take care of itself first.
It will drive even those who despise the current regime back into its embrace out of sheer necessity.
So true John. Kellogg is either stupid, insane or under Trump's thumb. As you noted so well the Romans did not do well against the Persians.
When has America done well in the Middle East? Never. Why are we there at all? Supporting Zio-Nazis in Tel Aviv and Washington.
Since this Stack started off with Dr Peter McCullough's contributions, a medical freedom orientation I feel emboldened to "hijack" the thread back to the medical freedom origins of it via the "do it like the Romans used to do it" segue John provided!
How about we start off with what Romans did to ward off infectious disease: a fascinus. They wore a fascinus around their necks, had them in their homes, it protected them from illness and dis-ease.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/romans-used-to-ward-off-sickness-with-flying-penis-amulets
https://gizmodo.com.au/2020/09/how-ancient-amulets-tried-to-ward-off-disease/
The Winged Phallus was the facemask of Roman times. Its value was purely symbolic - "beware! a dangerous pathogen is in the air about us, take due care!" Because that was the ONLY thing masks were/are used for. Symbolism. Behavioral Science (BS)-informed epidemiology intended to alert and frighten us into "social distancing" and avoiding human contact. Prescribed for everyone as Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions due to the psychological (BS) effect masks are known to produce, "Fear Amplification." Because the masses were diagnosed as 'suffering' from "Optimism Bias." 'Wrongly' believing we had (have) little to fear about a dangerous, scary pathogen in the air about us that we could infect each other with. Remember, masks were only worn by bank robbers and plane hijackers prior to 2020 because they "amplify fear," aka "terrorize" people into compliance with their demands. Sames. Masks are terrorizing to the human amygdala, provokes the same exact fight, flight, freeze response most people get when seeing a snake. Psychology studies attest to this fact known by the BS'er epidemiologists.
At least the Winged Phallus protected without terrorizing the population. And wasn't accompanied by the disgusting, infectious side effect that wearing dirty mask petri dishes on one's face comes with.
Another benefit that the Winged Phallus used in Roman times had was it also protected against the Evil, all-seeing Eye, aka "Envy":
https://www.finestresullarte.info/en/works-and-artists/the-fascinus-of-ancient-rome-the-phallus-shaped-amulet-that-protected-against-the-evil-eye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinus
The "All-seeing eye." Also, Envy. A deadly sin:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/envy-behaviour
Which the Romans also knew as, "Invidia." Another important Roman symbol to acquaint oneself with is the Invidia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invidia
If that's a word that looks familiar to you the similarity isn't accidental:
https://wccftech.com/nvidias-name-origins-history-roman-mythology/
https://web.archive.org/web/20171116192021/http://fortune.com/2017/11/16/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang/
NVidia. Big Tech giant, one of the largest market caps of any company in the world. Because it makes the best CPU for emerging AI technology, the natural evolution of videogaming that NVidia is built on. About those AI Data Centers. "All-Seeing Eyes." Envy. Just like its Roman namesake.
One of NVidia's founders started one of those 'benevolent' charitable trusts. The Priem Foundation:
http://www.priem.org/
Priem Foundation's largest recipient of donations is EMPAC. EMPAC is developing human-computer interfaces:
https://empac.rpi.edu/about
Human-computer interfaces are the prerequisite to transhumanism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckbrooks/2020/08/27/the-merging-of-human-and-machine-two-frontiers-of-emerging-technologies/?sh=164f98bb1fad
The above and more found in this Stack of mine from August, 2023:
https://freedomfox.substack.com/p/curiouser-and-curiouser
From facemasks to theories on infectious disease to population control via government-sanctioned terror, to 24/7 surveillance, even of human thought, mind control, transhumanism, the Romans had a lot of the issues of our times already figured out. Perhaps we would be better off doing it like the Romans. In dire need of a modern-day Winged Phallus to protect us from the AI surveillance state being built all around us. That is a much greater peril to us, our way of life than anything going on in the Middle East, Iran. Just a distraction from the true evil being constructed and imposed on us at home.
Nicely said.
Recent hx / reality of who General Kellogg is: appt by Trump to bring resolution Ukraine & Russia but has blocked the process. His dtr on Ukraine payroll and said so publicly.
But he's not influenced by a family mbr [ J Kushner has no impact on Trump 😢 either 】
He is under the paycheck he gets from the propaganda “news” source, called FOX News.
Zionists are NOT even close to being evil Nazi's . Thanks for showing your ignorance......
Obviously you are ignorant!
This is for you Greg. If you did real research and not going by Fox news you would be Truly informed - 1 minute video if you have the attention span on the Zio-Nazis End Game in their own words:
Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews!
This Psychotic and hundreds of others like him (What he says is in their "Holy" books, many Jews do not know this or don't accept it). Keep in mind he is talking about you, your kids, grandkids, friends, innocents etc!
https://x.com/karma44921039/status/2015851191431782880
This is not Hate Speech according to Musk's rules. But criticizing IsraHeELL's Genocide of hundreds of thousands of Defenseless mostly Women and Children by every means imaginable gets you banned for Hate Speech.
Do you see what they did to the Gazans with Trump's overwhelming support? They'll use it everywhere until they are STOPPED!
General Kellogg's comment merely serves to reinforce the view that most Americans are profoundly ignorant of history as well as geography. Just as many Jews regard Gentiles as subhuman and therefore insignificant, Americans tend to regard everything that has happened outside their own country or before its founding as unimportant.
Crassus was killed in the battle which he had foolishly provoked. Various legends circulated afterwards: that the Parthians had poured liquid gold into his dead mouth to mock his greed, and that his head was used as a prop in a performance of Euripides' "The Bacchae". (Showing, incidentally, that the Parthians were cultured and familiar with Greek drama).
Under the ensuing Sassanid dynasty, the Persians more than held their own against the Roman Empire. The emperor Gordian III was murdered by his own soldiers after being defeated by Shapur I, while the emperor Valerian was captured and lived out his life as a prisoner. Later Rome advanced to the Tigris, but lost all its gains after the death on campaign of the emperor Julian.
The big problem is Netanyahu. His wet dream is the end of Iran's political and military institutions. That leaves no room for negotiations. Why would Iran negotiate with Netanyahu in power?
The effective regime change may be the removal of Netanyahu.
I rather disagree. Horrible and inhuman as Mr Netanyahu is, I fear that his ideas are quite in line with those of many - if not most - Israelis.
If you tell people that they are superior to others, history shows that they find it hard to resist the flattery. Greeks thought everyone foreign to be intrinsically inferior; the word "barbarian" stems from their perception that those who did not speak Greek merely babbled "bar-bar-bar..." Aristotle seriously considered that non-Greeks might be born for slavery. The Romans... well, we've covered them! Then there were the Chinese, the Japanese, Arabs, the Spaniards, the Dutch (yes!), the French, the Austrians, the Poles, the British, and now the Americans and the Israelis. And many more.
Just as Germans were quite open to the idea that they were intrinsically superior, the Israelis are today. Actually I find the American feeling of superiority hardest to understand, since it goes alongside their "melting pot" theory that people from every corner of the world become superior just by entering the USA. Somehow the blessed Constitution - which they resolutely ignore most of the time - sanctifies and elevates them.
The problem with Netenyaho is that there are no compromises. In America, we look for win/wins. Netenyaho has been saying that Iran needs to be destroyed for over thirty years. I mean, utterly destroyed. He's referenced the account of the Amalakites in Israel's history where God told Israel to destroy everything of the Amalakites, even their children and animals, because of the way the Jews were treated by them after leaving Egypt. Netenyaho believes he's fulfilling Hebrew prophecy and acting as a sword of God in 2026.
Iran sees this too. Why would they agree to the 20 or 15-point peace plan when they know Netanyahu wants their total destruction?
I think you are being generous to 'Yahu'. He may be using the excuse of the Hebrew prophesy, but I believe his actual goal is to see the USA burn itself out, financially and politically, in this unprovoked assault on Iran, so that he himself can emerge as Top Dog and fulfill his dream of putting the Zionists at the apex of human power and wealth.
Could be. I would not rule that out.
Just thinking about this the other day. Superior Aryan race, Jewish supremacy, American Exceptionalism. Appreciate your longer list of supremacies. Like gods and empires, supremacies fade.
"The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwelleth in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; who saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?" [epigraph, Obadiah verse 3, from James Dickey's novel Deliverance]
And concretized in the novel: "The older man was standing with the gun barrel in his hand and no change in the stupid, advantage-taking expression of his face, and a foot and half of bright red arrow was shoved forward from the middle of his chest. It was there so suddenly it seemed to have come from within him."
There are dozens of other examples. Left as an exercise for the student.
It’s much harder to find any peoples who have not, at some time, imagined they were the Master Race or the Chosen Ones. (Which are equivalent when you come to think of it).
I would say “most Israelis”. I understand that most Israelis have no problem with the rape of Palestinian prisoners. But this goes way beyond Israel. To the U.S., with its large number of “Christian”Zionists, neocons and geopolitically, geographically and economically ignorant.
Mostly great comment, but to be fair, there HAVE been protests in Israel against the whole genocidal path that 'Yahu' has been on for many years now. Not all Jews are Zionists.
My vague memory of barbarians is that they were a tribe from the north who were particular fierce fighters.
Reagan removed all but American history (according to himself) and World History (that affected the US so very little real World History) first from the Californian public school curriculum and then the entire nation's school curriculum. I don't think Modern European History was taught in the U.S. in most schools at all. Certainly Middle Eastern History has never been part of the curriculum. So we have at least five generations who know very little history and most of that comes from B-grade films Reagan could remember being in (as though they actually happened as written in his scripts) despite having active Alzheimer's. He also removed the arts and dumbed down literature where you learn empathy.
Treason has high costs indeed. Trump is not the first president to dismantle our democracy, such as it was at the time.
Reagan also remove the requirement that all students must study the Constitution before graduating from high school. Wokeness is one of many negative outcomes of Reagan's dastardly deed.
For all the good that supposedly did. "Civics" taught; tariffs were good for protectionism (they're actually unconstitutional, as Excises and Duties are required to be uniform), and the Constitution provide for "three" branches of government (there are two; the Judiciary is an appointed subsidiary, and the Articles of Confederation define the Supreme Court as the Congress itself).
Jimmy Carter is who fk’ed up school curriculums… he took the right of the states to fund and implement education and made it a federal responsibility…He created a federal agency to control and fund education….and they SUCK at it.
Naturally, National Test scores have only gone down since its inception…. and have never once had a gain… since the mid seventies!! It is a Truism that if you want something to fail, allow our federal government gain control of it.
George Bush later tied test scores to funding and VIOLA! Now schools only teach what’s on the test… and it’s not World History or Civics… it’s not even balanced… It’s indoctrination… and it’s a major part of why our society is now coming apart at the seams.
The best thing any future president could do is return education to the States, dissolve the federal education department and take this federal government’s FILTHY hands…and the hands of the leftist bent teacher’s unions off our Children’s minds.
I was in college then. I got a BA from a very expensive private college without taking out a single student loan (which my American mother made me promise not to do). From a very low income family. Nixon and Kissinger set out to destroy my college by refusing federal monies in 1972 (they failed) and created a COINTELPRO operation on campus (if students look like Mormons they're probably FBI, especially at a progressive college). In my experience, Reagan is the one who destroyed our system. Ten years later my kid's daycare cost the same amount as my friggin' private college!!! Students today do not have the option with the cost of education and the lousy terms of these loans. Now many kids aren't even considering college. They sign up with the military because they get a $50K bonus for doing so, and the promise of a free college education (if they survive physically, mentally, and emotionally, and have the academic background to succeed in college--two big ifs). They tend to major in financial or science majors--many Humanities majors have DISAPPEARED--even if they lack basic math and science background. Hello. Is it any wonder the billionaire bros are so emotionally and socially retarded? It is predictable.
'What most Americans know they have learned from movies and TV. Hardly any Americans read books, much less serious ones. Back in those days when I was a university professor, I recall a lecture I gave on the Russian revolution. A student interrupted me and said, “that’s not the way [it] happened in the movie.”
'At first I thought he was making a joke, but he was serious. He was challenging my explanation based on years of study with a Hollywood movie'.
- Paul Craig Roberts https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/07/06/western-civilization-has-been-destroyed-by-diversity/
TOO funny. I think the advent of computer culture doomed literacy in the U.S. Racism also had a role. The curriculum was opened up to include everyone in the national conversation. The negative reaction from White America just fueled the effort. We are still arguing about whose voice is relevant and whose is not, which is what ICE is about. Locally, the schools no longer have libraries. Kids are being taught to use AI rather than how to read and write and think themselves. The public library's bookmobile only stops at schools, trying to get kids to take books out. Most kids who do read do it on their cellphone and other digital devices which are a poor substitute for a physical book. Digital reading doesn't stick--like everything digital it's temporary. I have a huge library because the libraries are getting rid of books that haven't been taken out in the past three years--either free or for 50 cents a pop. It is unreal. They are happy to buy books published in the last year or two. But classics? Forget it. When I was a kid I averaged finishing 7 books a week. A week. I never went anywhere without a book in case I had to wait for someone to pick me up. Sometimes I hid my current reading behind a textbook, I was so bored in school. And I went to a great international school. I went to college with well-off private school-educated American kids who told me they hadn't read a book that wasn't required reading in two years! And that was in the 70's. Another reason to get off computer-based devices.
Thank you Tom, for that bit of history, always interesting...
Kellogg has devolved into little more than a frosted flake
And even Frosted Flakes get soggy when left in milk too long…. https://www.youtube.com/live/FbTLLyV5jCA?si=65VkMW8VEi-W5O90
Stop defaming Frosted Flakes!
well for what it's worth I deliberately did not use caps (but ought to to have stated "with apologies to Frosted Flakes"...)
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John, could I be mistaken but my sense is Kellogg was referring to Roman tactics in general, in which he is correct, not specifically to Roman attempts to conquer Persia, however much I agree Trump's Zionist alliance to obliterate Iran, assassinate top leaders has to be one of the dumbest policy decision of any US President, his minions merely kissing his feet regardless of caked ion manure.
Having listened to the clip, my main impression is of General Kellogg's confusion and inarticulacy. But he definitely does seem to be suggesting that the Romans were successful putting "boots on the ground". That merely begs the question, though: sometimes they put boots (or perhaps sandals) on the ground successfully, and sometimes unsuccessfully. The Iranian situation reminds me most of the Thueringer Wald, where P. Quinctilius Varus and his three legions were wiped out to a man after rashly intruding on territory where the enemy held a great advantage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest
And of course the discrepancy between Roman weapons and modern ones renders any comparison completely useless.
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/remembering-the-battle-of-teutoburg
A handy summary of the disaster (from the Roman point of view). One thing they did wrong was to take Arminius (perhaps “Herrmann”) hostage as a young boy, bring him up and educate him in Roman ways, train him as a military officer (seriously!) and then send him back home. Surely, if not a sign of overt contempt, certainly too complacent. Perhaps they thought that, once “civilised”, he would not “revert to barbarism”. But he did - like a shot. His patriotism and hatred for the invader easily outweighed everything he had been taught in Rome.
It was said that all the Roman officers captured in the battle were burnt alive as a sacrifice to the German gods. Horrible, but no worse than being caught inside a burning tank, ship, or aircraft.
Pygmalion GB Shaw's "his way to" Chicago --sculptors "in love" already infest every corner of everywhere & when -- & performs the Teach that Blackbeard's Eddie Murphy to Trade Places with himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fupg2r1EJ9w
Not sure I follow the connections. The movie trailer looks good - but how else with such actors?
The theme dates back to the 1880s and probably much earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Versa_(novel)
Thorne Smith had a take on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnabout_(Thorne_Smith_novel)
Pygmalion. Greek mythology. Henry Higgins. Eliza Doolittle.
People as blank slates, or blocks of stone to be sculpted, or oc/cults to be programmed & deprogrammed.
Valentine (Eddie Murphy) the grifter remade into Valentine the commodities trader/exec.
Arminius remade Roman.
“Education” doesn’t always go the way the Prussians sought to indemnify their appetite disorders.
I'm reminded in the Kellogg quote starting with "We", of the punchline to a Lone Ranger and Tonto joke, "What you mean 'We', white man".
Why would you assume Kellogg was referring to territory, over accomplishments via strategy, innovative approaches and tactics? The Romans didn't win every battle but it won enough to make it one of the greatest empires in history. He's a soldier not a historian. His statement was accurate from his perspective. Nice try though.
Kellogg says the Americans need to do it like the Romans did it? Really??? The Roman leader-gods morphed into hedonistic monsters…, and Rome fell!
USA seems to be well on the way!
FOX news was the voice of insanity during the Iraq stupidity, too. They beat the WMD war drum as loudly as anyone.
Trump has trapped himself into something he said he would never do. To complete any regime change, one must use troops, and a lot of them. Iran is not going to negotiate at the level Netanyahu demands. So Trump either escalates or takes a hit to his ego and walks away.
Nothing about this adventure will be quick. If you think differently, you might want to look and see if you're sucking at a Neocon teat.
And then America will get socialists, come Nov.
This attack was a massive blunder. The Neocons convinced Trump that all would be over quickly. They say that every time.
Is it time to bash President Trump again? Maybe you should stick with science John.
Listen carefully to what the man is saying and in what context, PLEASE. You are totally consumed with confirmation bias, John. The general was not talking about the Romans putting boots on the ground in Persia, he was talking about the concept in general that the Romans used when conquering ANY territory - getting boots on the ground. Good Grief! You are becoming completely overtaken by the TDS disease state.
I have a pretty good idea, how the soldiers are going to be used. And they will not be invading Iran proper. Because I said that I will say no more
Kellogg is a nutjob. If it were up to him he would spend $2T a year on the military and draft every single person between the ages of 18 and 25 into the military and attempt to conquer the entire earth. Those he couldn't conquer he would nuke. Megalomaniacs like him are the scourge of humanity.
TW, like with leake, you got to love the historical juxtapositions. I dont seem to comprehend, what is wrong with the USofA: Iraq wars, all of them, Aphganistan, Iran..What the hell are we doing, other than destablizing the world. Is it unreasonalbe to think the Zionist agenda is driving all this, and if so, how ? Bush II no doubt, Trump completely..but I just dont get the pressure points. txs The why yes, never conceed, always destroy, never make peace (except for greater war) just greater Israel at all costs, bu tth how I dont get other than the perrenial holocaust blackmail that has destroyed so many politicians (Bush i for instance, Senator Percy in the 70's)
Kellogg's is a cereal and doesn't know history.
True, but that doesn’t change the above. The Iranians cheer when USA bombs fall on the RG.
Almost every decision made so far in this Iranian war has been wrong. I attribute this to two fundamental failures.
First, a complete disregard for historical realities.
Second, the distinctly American hubris that assumes everyone else thinks as they do.
Iranian culture has been forged through centuries of conflict. Americans must get this through their pompous skulls: bombing cities, destroying infrastructure, and killing Iranians as “collateral damage” will not break their will — it will harden it. What would demoralize a fearful population only fuels Iranian defiance. That resilience is precisely why they have endured.
Blowing up their economic livelihood — their oil and gas fields — will have two perverse effects:
It will starve ordinary citizens, not the military, which will always take care of itself first.
It will drive even those who despise the current regime back into its embrace out of sheer necessity.