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Alan's avatar

NATO NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY DISMANTLED SINCE IT HAS BECOME NOTHING BUT A WAR MONGERING MACHINE INTENT ON CONQUERING RUSSIA.

Lori's avatar

BOOM!!!! Leave Russia alone.

prsmith's avatar

Yeah, your buddies Putin and Xi would really love that.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Putin's Russia has more in common with traditional American values than every western European nation today. Europe today is under the same collectivist authoritarian governing model that Hitler and the Third Reich embodied. A model that the US aligned with the (communist) USSR to defeat. It wouldn't be unprecedented for the US and Russia to align to defeat those Neo-Nazi resurgent's running Europe today, many direct heirs of the Nazi regime itself, like Ursuala von der Leyen (nee Albrecht).

This isn't to say Russia/Putin is free as we understand freedom. But it is *more* free than the entire EU+UK and respects traditional values like God, family, isn't mutilating their children, indoctrinating them with absurdities that men can become women, protects its national borders from illegal hordes, has way more in common with 1950's US than the EU+UK or even 2020's US.

Yet dumba$$e$ like prsmith think Russia/Putin is the bad guys and Neo-Nazi Europe is worth defending. They may not be perfect or ideal, as Stalin's USSR wasn't. But they were necessary to defeat the Nazi's. Can't fix stupid like prsmith who are locked into a worldview of what was instead of what is.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Xi is POTUS Trump's buddy.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

"Truly great friendship":

"From the time of my first election in 2016, President Xi and I have forged a friendship, a truly great friendship, actually, built on mutual respect and the vital interests of our people."

"Honor to be your friend":

During a visit to Beijing, Trump told Xi directly, "It's an honor to be your friend."

"Always be friends":

"President Xi and I will always be friends, no matter what happens with our dispute on trade."

The friendship.intensified after it was reported that Xi was helping Iran target US troops in Iran. That's why the Dems want to impeach POTUS Trump for treason after the midterms as well.as for raping Jane Doe with Epstein when she was a minor.

Cruising Economist's avatar

We must understand the pathological control freaks driving everyone toward war don't care about anything other than their power. War is good, in their self serving view, because it gives them more control over everyone and everything. Their problem goes beyond simple stupidity and operational incompetence. They are mentally diseased (sociopaths, psychopaths, etc.), suffering from their sick compulsion to control. Tragically the credulous masses, who are dreadfully susceptible to political manipulation, naively believe them to be selfless leaders.

SteelJ's avatar

Yep, I get tired of all the discussion about international affairs that presume leaders are working in the interests of their countries. For most of them, that's an afterthought at best. They're thinking about themselves. It's vital to understand psychopathy and its prevalence. Just as important is to understand how normal people react to them. The gullible masses love effective psychopaths, especially in leaders. Charisma, glibness, total confidence have great appeal to most, and effective psychopaths are loaded up with those. The human race never had a chance to come close to Kant's goal. If we ever attained it, which we won't, in no time a charismatic psychopath would come along, the public would be enthralled and rally round him, and follow him to destruction. It's baked in.

Cruising Economist's avatar

Indeed, absent the credulous masses those mentally diseased monsters would never be able to insinuate their way into positions of power. Like you I don't believe that tragic repetitive process is going to end, certainly not in our lifetimes. COVID demonstrated how easily the compliant masses can be manipulated, some to the point of apparent derangment.

SteelJ's avatar

The fact that observing the response of the public to the COVID scam hasn't awakened the public to just how gullible and hopeless the public is, shows how gullible and hopeless the public is. You're right, it ain't changing. Not in any lifetime. Natural selection doesn't push us that way. If you believe in creation or intelligent design, well then I guess it's supposed to be this way.

prsmith's avatar

So is Putin and the Shia in Iran responding to those forces? Or is this just more of the same fear, greed, religious zealotry, etc.?

Cruising Economist's avatar

As a matter of fact if you look at the actual history Russia tried for years to avoid the conflict in Ukraine while warning DC/UK/EU to stop militarizing the country (research the Minsk Agreements) after DC orchestrated installation of a pack of ethnically hateful authoritarians in Kiev (2014) to do their bidding. So yes, Russia was responding. And, while Israel may argue it is an exception, Iran hasn't attacked another country in modern history (Persian culture is ancient). It did fight a notably brutal war with Iraq after being attacked, an attack aided and abetted by DC.

Everyone would be well advised to ignore manipulative political/corporate media rhetoric and study at least a little history. Not much effort is required to see through the deceitful rhetoric. Incidentally, those who made an effort also understood by mid 2020 that COVID posed no meaningful risk of mortality (see IFR data) for the vast majority (zero for healthy children) so they would have known better than to submit to injection with a radical new technology which had no medium or long term track record or testing. Failing to do one's homework can literally get them, or those who depend on their judgement, maimed or killed because of the sick control freaks now in power in Western countries.

Thomas Riley's avatar

Quiet, Economist! There’s no reason to research anything. Putin bad! Shiites bad! That’s all anyone needs to know. Get with the program and stop all that pesky thinking!

Cruising Economist's avatar

Indeed, paying attention and thinking independently is bad...according to the diseased individuals mentioned above. Doing so threatens their control over the credulous masses which is why they always resort to censorship, or outright slaughter of people who don't comply with their desires once they get enough power. The same mental illness has existed throughout human history hence history repeats.

Freedom Fox's avatar

prsmith's EU Nazi buddies must really love starting wars with major nuclear powers. What was once MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction - is now desirable to prsmith's EU Nazi buddies. Can't fix stupid.

Phil Davis's avatar

Amazingly, people believe Russia will attack Europe. What could Europe possibly have that Russia would want? Gold, oil, other hard assets? If Russia invaded France, the people would immediately approach their attackers and ask: Are you the new guys paying our pensions?

This Ukraine mess is all about hatred of Russia. The world forgave Germany for Hitler, yet they refuse to forgive Russia for Stalin.

Europe made a peace agreement called the Minsk agreement only to back out of it, and according to Merkel of Germany, it was designed to give Ukraine more time to prepare for war with Russia. Ukraine is being used as a sword to soften up Russia for an EU and NATO attack.

Very soon, expect some false-flag event justifying a NATO attack in Russia to begin. Wars always seem to start in the fall.

prsmith's avatar

Russia wants the Baltics and Poland. Putin wants a restored USSR and the buffer that those countries would provide. Hopefully Ukraine's successes will dissuade him.

Phil Davis's avatar

Pure propaganda. NATO and the Western Neocons have acquired your mind, I’m afraid. After the Soviets' self-imposed collapse, Russia asked to join NATO, naively believing the Western powers were truly good guys and that Russia could now join them. The Neocon hatred for Russia is so intense that it's carried over from the Cold War days. My friend, you are buying that lying propaganda. NATO needs an enemy to stay relevant; there is no way they will accept Russia. Russia is blamed for everything; even the Democrats tried to use Russia as an excuse for a data leak. Remember that? Nothing, absolutely nothing, can be trusted from the mouths of politicians, and especially Neocons.

Thomas Riley's avatar

Yes, of course. Simply believe, and it’ll all be true. NATO good! (That’s why it’s on Russia’s border.) Russia bad! Ukraine winning! (That’s why Zelensky is always asking for a ceasefire.) Some guy named prsmith knows what Putin wants! It’s all true — if only you believe!

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You are extraordinarily stupid, even by US standards. Are you from New Mexico? If you are not up to date with your boosters talk to VA about whether you need to be.

Lori's avatar

Team Russia here. Get rid of that short turd ex-comedian Zelensky. He is a nasty infection in a wound causing pus and illness to follow wherever he goes.

And NATO can go "F" off.

Mark's avatar

Ukrainian ex-diplomat Andrii Telizhenko recently said Ukraine has lost 2.5 million "soldiers".

He had met Zelenskyy at the time of his election, and believed Zelenskyy was genuine in his promise to seek peace with Russia, but was soon after taken to London and came back with a different attitude...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkCixFkAWRU

Douglas Jack's avatar

John Leake, RE: Kaliningrad & Odessa. Our western Oligarch-owned institutional society is not going to figure this out, regardless of 's'elections, lobbying & protests.

The good news is that we are all empowered in our own lives to re-acculturate human society. Peace in the 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') heritage, is established culturally through each person physically 'becoming the change, they want to see in the world', from the person, friends, family, extended-family, Multihome, village, city, region, nation such-as ~110 nations across Turtle-Island (N. America) organized into ~23 Confederacies, into Continental & Hemispheric Councils. All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' ancestors organized in Cultural 'Fractals' ('fraction, multiplier, building-block, where-the-part-contains-the-whole'). Intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies-of-scale. The key fractal is the ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complex (eg. Apartment, Townhouse & Village) where 70% of people live today. 20% of Multihome-dwellers are extended-family members, living intentionally in proximity with privacy for social & economic collaboration. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy/1-extending-our-welcome-participatory-multihome-cohousing

'FRACTAL' nature of human: being, society & nations.

Our disconnected inappropriately scaled top-down commanded & controlled Nation-states, regardless of Emmanuel Kant's hopes are a construction of fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') amnesic Oligarchy over the last 7000 years since Babylon (5000 BC) & Phoenicia (4000 to 0 BC as 'Kingdom-of-Israel + city-states of Tyr, Sidon, Byblos & Beirut) invaded, colonized, genocided & brutally extracted, exploited & ruled over the whole Red Sea, Persian-Gulf, Mediterranean & Black-Seas (Ashkenaz & Khazarian Empires) centered in Ukraine, hence Oligarchy's perceived right-to-rule in Ukraine violently under 2 post-Maidan putsch so-called Presidents, Ashkenazi (some of my family in 3-branches) Jewish Poroshenko & Zelensky.

WHOLE-BODY-MIND ANALOGY TO SOCIAL-HUMANITY AS A WHOLE Humanity's 3-dimensional bottom-up collective-integrated, economic-memory for all diverse intelligence & contributions, was destroyed for Oligarchy's 2-D Linear Top-down command & control with Amnesia. The human body & mind are Autonomous: genes, cells, tissue, organs & whole communicating with the Brain, as but one Nexus of body-communication, so society (L. 'socius' = 'friend') can only function when the specialized intelligence of each person & other levels of social organization are empowered. Its estimated that the Stomach as another body nexus, has more neurons in its functions than the brain. Http://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/3-economic-memory

TOP-DOWN FAKE MONEY CONTROL: A most honest & instructive 'exogenous' (Latin 'other-generated') Oligarch once advised humanity, "Permit me issue & control a nation's money & I care not who writes the laws. The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favours, that there’ll be no opposition from that class." Cicero 106 to 43 BC wrote, "Nothing is so well fortified that; it can not be taken with money". "It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary (& family) depends upon his not understanding it", by Upton Sinclair. Does anyone need education on how undeclared minority share-holders triangulated among the US-Federal-Reserve, Bank-of-England & Bank-of-International-Settlements, effectively control issue of fake money in all western nation?

When our colonial 'exogenous' system is so captured in every inappropriately0scaled institutional regard, it’s long past rational reasoning that; humanity must again return to its 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') roots & restore the system from the Bottom-up in every dimension of the once worldwide Circle-of-Life. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/3-indigenous-circle-of-life

Mohandas Gandhi in exemplifying India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'Indigenous' aka 'self-sufficiency') 1917-1947 'Swaraj' (H. 'self-rule') advised, "Regard human labour as more even than money & you have an untapped & inexhaustible source of income, which ever increases with use." essentially describing a core aspect of all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' system of 'economy' (Greek 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture').

In order to understand fake 'money' Oligarch 7000 year perversion of history, learn about the ancient many 10s of 1000s off years of all humanity's indigenous ancestry. In-order-to understand real 'money', one must study & research all humanity's once worldwide time-based accounting upon the WORLDWIDE STRING-SHELL VALUE SYSTEM (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island/N. America, Quipu in S. America & Cowrie-shell in once indigenous Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands). String-shell integrates: a) 'Capital' (L 'cap' = 'head' = 'collective-intelligence' from contribution, experience, expertise & decision-making-acumen). b) ‘Currency’ ('flow' as in recognition & empowerment from diverse stakeholders), c) 'Condolence' = 'social-security' for all conditions, d) Collegial 'education' (L. 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within') Credit, e) time-math-management Communication, f) professional Costume for identification of essential goods & service expertise & more. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy

CAPTURING PUBLIC NARRATIVE BOTTOM-UP: If political parties or nations, both left & right would be honest enough to constitutionally make a practice of Formal Both-sides-now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published 'Debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') accepting the challenges & collaboration of everyone, then these parties will quickly capture the public narrative & attract the public to a necessary distributed, decentralized empowerment process for all. COMMUNICATE such as formally through once worldwide indigenous COUNCIL PROCESS for creating understanding, Constructive Agreements, Contract delineation & for Conflict Resolution. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

Dalyce McCue's avatar

Kant's treatise on war is precisely how the Arab nations act towards Israel. They always make treaties with the intention of attacking at a later date.

Mark peter's avatar

I’m glad you titled your book “mind virus”. That’s exactly what it is!

In times past it was honorable to be in the armed forces and defend our nation. Today, we are the bully on the schoolyard and continue to step outside our boundaries to mettle where we have no business to be. So sad for the young guys to be sucked into the matrix…

“All wars are bankers wars” and all politicians are prostitutes…

Jason's avatar

KALERGI PLAN

The Genocide of all White People

"The future man will be mixed-race.

As for Pan-Europe, I wish to see a Eurasian-Negroid mixture with great variation in personality types. The Jews shall take the leading positions, since Providence (God) has given Europe a spiritually superior race of nobility called, The Jews. The White races of Europe should be destroyed and replaced with a race of Eurasian-Negroids who can be easily controlled by us ruling elite.

-Count Richard Von Coudenhove-Kalergi

Founder and Pres. of Pan-European Union for 49 years Written in his book 'Praktischer Idealismus' 1924

Freedom Fox's avatar

There's no need for war! Just needs a little "peregruzka" button!!

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/video-wrong-red-button-019719

C'mon Europe, it's easy! Easy as a little red button. If they choose to press it, that is.

OutofStep's avatar

At his last UN Speech Ahmadinejad said

“ The World is run by Organized Crime”

Freedom Fox's avatar

He wasn't wrong about that. Wrong about a lot of things. But not that.

Brad Parsons's avatar

You ought to be writing about the migrant protests in France.

prsmith's avatar

From which aspect? Hopefully France, et. al., will grow a pair and send the lot of them packing back where they came from.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Hope isn't a strategy. Especially when prsmith's Nazi allies in France, et. al., believe they've grown a pair by inviting the illegal invaders *in* to their nations. To simple, easily propagandized minds like prsmith possesses those nations are led by those who think they are "courageous" and "strong" to stand against their own people:

What Makes a Great Leader?

China-US Focus, Aug 10, 2017

https://www.chinausfocus.com/society-culture/what-makes-a-great-leader-

"The third critical quality of a great leader is courage – or nerve, as Klaus puts it. The surge of refugees in Europe, especially Syrian asylum-seekers in 2015, led to an explosion of populist sentiment, with political leaders increasingly calling for borders to be closed. Weak leaders buckled under the pressure, either aligning their rhetoric with that of the populists or getting steamrolled by their fiery competitors.

Not German Chancellor Angela Merkel. She set a powerful example by agreeing to accept one million refugees. At first, her standing with voters – and even many within her own party – sagged, to the point that some began writing her political epitaph. But her remarkable courage eventually paid off. She is now recognized worldwide as one of the strongest leaders of our time."

But the prsmith's are completely ignorant and foolish to think European leaders desire strong borders, protecting their citizens. At least Putin loves and cares about his people enough to prevent the globalist Nazi's from taking over Russia. As the prsmith's would rather protect the globalist European Nazi's. Can't fix stupid.

Ron Panzer's avatar

well, some sanity there.

We do have to remember that this did not start in 2021 or when Russia started its "special military operation."

It started in 2014 when the West instigated a color revolution with all its devious methods to overthrow the government of Ukraine and install puppets to rule the territory the West wanted to exploit for its trillions of dollars in vast mineral, rare earth metals, agriculture and whatever else it could plunder.

However evil one believes Russia is, it is its own nation with its own people and it has the largest nuclear arsenal in Europe by very, very far.

The earlier agreements in he 1990s was that the West/NATO would NOT expand toward Russia to threaten its borders and NATO did exactly the opposite, to piss off Russia every step of the way, and NATO was warned not to try to make Ukraine a NATO member, but they let on, that they did wish to do that.

How would the U.S. like Mexico armed with vast numbers of nuclear weapons aimed at Texas? Or Cuba? Don't we remember our history with JFK and blockade of Cuba and the Soviets?

The toppling of the Ukrainian govt in 2014 brought on Civil War in Ukraine. Why can't people understand that is what was going on? Civil War between Western Ukraine (aka NATO/the "West") that wanted the wealth of the Eastern Donbas region provinces where mostly Russian speaking people lived there.

Then they had the stupidity or evil-mindedness to do everything possible to harm those in the Eastern provinces.

Russia warned many times what would happen. Now, they are warning again.

Yes, they should have negotiated a peace in 2021 (or 2014 never interfering with the sovereign nation that then existed)! And they should not provoke a nuclear war now, because Russia WILL use them if it is existentially threatened.

Of course, those pulling the strings appear incredibly stupid to those who imagine they are stupid, but they are not. They gain wealth even when war goes on, and if every Ukrainian man is killed they won't care. If many in other nations are killed they won't care. They intend death, just like the COVID bioweapon, proved to be harmful, known to be poisonous before they mandated it be injected into billions worldwide.

franco nocentini's avatar

Let's leave KANT aside, this seems like a 5:00 PM tea conversation to me. Instead of Kant, Gandhi comes to mind. Perhaps he's even better than Kant, and he supported prison and the liberation struggle from predatory English rule.

To get to the point, and offer a historical hypothesis on what's happening, let's suppose, for example, that Putin was completely subservient to globalist power at least until 2021, completely in the sense that he hadn't expressed any dissent within that circle and was continuing his position as a puppet suspended by strings pulled by others.

To demonstrate that he was a docile puppet, perhaps it would be enough to actually accept the pandemic, to abstain from revealing the American and Israeli games regarding Operation Warp Speed, to have manufactured his own mRNA vaccines, to have promoted them in Russia, to have recommended the vaccines to his citizens, effectively sharing the mechanism for generating a toxic protein in the body through the Russian vaccine.

(And who knows if it's the only one our bodies produce under the influence of vaccines).

Further demonstrating Putin's fundamental acceptance of globalist agendas, it's worth noting that even the crushing of the protests in Donbass in 2014, the famous Maidan, resulted in almost no Russian intervention, except to supply and arm, but insufficiently, the Russian-speaking protesters.

Then there's the development of state-controlled cryptocurrencies. From the way digital currency is developing in Russia, it always seems to have been a project, as is the case in NATO countries. They're looking for a way to force everyone, under penalty of going broke, to follow the state's instructions, which will gradually become laws of elected parliaments.

Let's assume that Putin, who became first prime minister and then president after Yeltsin's attempted sale of all Russian resources through a large band of oligarchs and with the interested amusement of America—well, Putin, taken by his pride in having brought Russia back to being a nation, of having been the best puppet in the hands of the Russian military hierarchy in the sense that he even surpassed it—let's assume that, faced with the globalists' request to make Russian resources available in any way, even by interrupting them, he, realizing that his position as Tsar was now coming to an end, attempted to assume a position of partial opposition, or perhaps demanding a higher command post since he was in fact once again selling off the country with the most resources in the world, created problems within the globalist power,

see for example his participation in Davos, first always in person and then finally ONLINE and with the attitude, if not of an expert, then at least of a model student of Davos and towards the figures in charge of the various summits. Davos seemed to be adopting the same political language as Klaus Shwab. He always demonstrated diligence and a clear understanding of the objectives to be achieved, knowing full well that everything would be decided behind the scenes at those summits.

Receiving a refusal, right behind the scenes, or a call to order, and fearing that he would lose his reputation as a modern Tsar before the Russians, or no longer being able to guarantee the various oligarchs or the Russian military's continued power, he merely proposed a few changes to the globalist agenda, while effectively continuing its main strategies.

I believe he attempted a more globalist approach for himself, but the globalists and their NATO pawn denied him this and immediately accelerated the strategies already in place to ensure Russia's compliance with globalist agendas.

That is, while they realized that Russia was raising the price, they accelerated financing for Ukrainian armaments and increased the threat to the Tsar.

It's clear to me that no head of state in the world, not even Xi Jinping, much less Putin, is completely opposed to globalist agendas.

What's happening are variations on the theme, diversifications that essentially maintain the same objectives of destroying masses of people, infrastructure, and resources. All of this is also a perfect diversion.

Mary's avatar

I wonder what role China plays in this mess.

Kolokol's avatar

Boy, that was a good one!