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CB's avatar

Not having known anything about Charlie Kirk before his murder, I'm glad to learn from Dr. McCullough that Kirk defended health freedom during the plandemic. I'm impressed too by his bravery in speaking on thousands of libtard campuses (ask Ann Coulter how dangerous that can be) and more recently in going against the wishes of his main funders. There are plenty of things on which I'd disagree with Kirk, but now's not the time.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Very ironic Charlie and George Floyd have the same birthday: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/cosmic-coincidence-the-george-floyd

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Jules's avatar

A person who wanted to restrict female rights. Not my kind of person. I’m sorry he was killed, but I don’t agree with his beliefs.

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Allie's avatar

What female rights are you referring to? The right of a woman to kill her preborn child in her womb? Are you referring to the right of a woman to undergo in vitro fertilization, a process that destroys many embryos? According to Mrs. Kirk, Charlie asked her every day how he could better serve her. He believed in the sanctity of marriage and building a strong family. He recognized the importance of mothers and fathers in raising children. Sad that he was not your kind of person.

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Jules's avatar

It’s not sad. I think it’s sad that people are blindly following a far right thinker.

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Allison Gilliland's avatar

I understand why you would feel that way. I’d ask you to look at his perception of us as more glass half full vs glass half empty. He wanted us to realize how pivotal we are to the human race. Much more so than men in his opinion. He marveled at our ability to seemingly effortlessly create and grow a human. He felt the highest calling for women is motherhood. He did not want us to throw that opportunity away without having all the facts. He wanted his wife to take over his business if anything ever happened to him, so he didn’t begrudge women the choice to work and raise a family, he just wanted women to know their full worth.

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Jules's avatar

And what would happen for a seamlessly effortless conception through rape? Against the mother’s wishes? A child born not out of love, but horror? Is there a verse in the bible that says rape is ok as long as a child is the fruit of this abomination?

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Allison Gilliland's avatar

The thought is horrific. Every woman cringes at the idea of conceiving a child that way. I hope that isn’t a personal experience of yours. Charlie didn’t encourage women who choose abortion in that situation to be judged. He would want her supported by her community. He just wanted women to know that good can come from bad. The ultimate joy of birthing a life and being the caregiver for that baby or blessing another couple with a child, could help dwarf the trauma of a rape. His feeling was every time the child made your heart happy, it would distance the rape trauma from being top of mind. They can still participate in the miracle of life and being a mother if they choose. He wanted young women who weren’t in that position to have received the message of their power and importance through conception in case they found themselves in that position at some point. Often times it’s hard to evaluate options when you are in an emotional and traumatized state. I think you and Charlie have something in common - you both seem to be concerned about your fellow human’s well being. You might have different angles on the same issue, but in the end you are both wanting the best for another person. We need more of that.

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